8.11.15 Reds @ Padres

[klw]

Two thoughts:
1. Sometimes I think Price thinks that Votto must enjoy having a different guy hit in front of him every day.
2. I overslept by 5 days and somehow it is now Sunday.

#Reds lineup:

Phillips 4,
Schumaker 7,
Votto 3,
Frazier 5,
Bruce 9,
De Jesus Jr. 6,
Barnhart 2,
Lorenzen RHP,
Hamilton 8

vs:
Colin Rea


http://m.mlb.com/news/article/142393502/rea-takes-on-reds-lorenzen-in-big-league-debut?game_pk=415333

Rea will make his Major League debut as he gets the start for the Padres on Tuesday, opposing Cincinnati at Petco Park.

Rea will take over for Odrisamer Despaigne, who was moved to the bullpen. Rea, 25, made an appearance in the All-Star Futures Game on July 12, after starting the season with a 1.08 ERA, 60 strikeouts and 11 walks in 75 innings (12 starts) for Double-A San Antonio. He was promoted to Triple-A El Paso in early July and had a 4.39 ERA in six starts.

Votto is 3 for his last 26-- no longer elite

[Chip R]

Rea used to pitch for my alma mater Northern Iowa before they cut the program. So he will be in all likelihood the last UNI alum to pitch in the big leagues.

[Raisor]

Rea used to pitch for my alma mater Northern Iowa before they cut the program. So he will be in all likelihood the last UNI alum to pitch in the big leagues.

I think you still have a chance

[KronoRed]

Put Votto back in the 2 spot.

[Kiko]

So I add Suarez to my fantasy team and start him only for Price to bench him. Typical.

[Roy Tucker]

How about batting Lorenzen second and Skip 8th?

[Banshee]

So I add Suarez to my fantasy team and start him only for Price to bench him. Typical.

Suarez got moved up and went 0-fer, twice w/ bases loaded. Back to the bench Geno, ugh. No 0-fers allowed on this team by Price...

[Tom Servo]

joey y u do dis

[Tom Servo]

that inning.

http://i.imgur.com/bvtPoh1.png

[miamiredskin]

Votto and Frazier welcoming the youngster to the bigs.

[miamiredskin]

Easy to take Billy for granted on plays like that.

[Tom Servo]

I'm a supporter of his talent, but I'm thinking it's time for Lorenzen to go back to AAA.

[Roy Tucker]

Hanging slider.

[RedTeamGo!]

Lorenzen was rushed to the majors.

I was for it at the time, but I was quite wrong. Hopefully this hasn't messed up his development too much.

[Tom Servo]

2-0 Padres and probably going to get worse.

[Chip R]

I think we may see Pedro sooner rather than later.

[marcshoe]

Good to hear Welsh again after suffering through the other guys' feeds for a few games. He seems more serious about what he's doing than a lot of guys.

[WrongVerb]

In a thread on ORG, I recently predicted great success for Lorenzen. I must say my prognostication was as on point as usual.

[miamiredskin]

Billy saving a 6-run inning...so far.

[Banshee]

Billy looked like he outran that ball, wow.

[Roy Tucker]

Great great catch by Billy.

[marcshoe]

Ho-hum. Another catch by Billy.

[Tom Servo]

In a thread on ORG, I recently predicted great success for Lorenzen. I must say my prognostication was as on point as usual.
I keep thinking one of these starts he is going to stop walking everybody, and every time I'm let down.

Billy has saved Lorenzen's ass here, jeez.

[RedTeamGo!]

Lorenzen has 64 Ks and 51 BB in 90 innings to go along with his shiny 5.00 ERA.

Woof.

[miamiredskin]

Hard to imagine a worse first.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Time for Lorenzen to go figure things out in Louisville?

[Ironman92]

It would be 6-0 right now with no outs if Billy wasn't in CF

[Tom Servo]

This is giving me flashbacks to guys like Phil Dumatrait and Joe Mays.

[BCubb2003]

Billy saving a 6-run inning...so far.

Add it to his OPS.

[RedTeamGo!]

Time for Lorenzen to go figure things out in Louisville?

Maybe as a reliever.

[Roy Tucker]

Lorenzen can't hit the corners. He either misses the zone or throws one right over the plate.

[Tom Servo]

Maybe as a reliever.
Why? Durability isn't his issue.

[miamiredskin]

3 runs should be no problem for the Reds offence, right?

[Banshee]

That could have gone better.

[androosh]

I really want to watch this game, but being a late start, today's lineup, and how the first inning went, I foresee going to bed earlier tonight than most.

[miamiredskin]

That was a wicked pitch to Jay.

[Roy Tucker]

Let's make Rea look like Lorenzen did.

[Banshee]

Nice smash by DeJesus, tough luck on that one.

[Ironman92]

What a play by Armarista

[Tom Servo]

Things that have gone right for the Reds so far:

[androosh]

That could have gone better.

This may become the catch phrase for tonight.

[Roy Tucker]

Maybe I'll go back to the U-boat show on the Smithstonian channel.

[miamiredskin]

Things that have gone right for the Reds so far:

Skipper showed good patience with the walk.

[BluegrassRedleg]

/facepalm

[WrongVerb]

This may become the catch phrase for tonight.

That might be the catch phrase for the rest of the season.

[Chip R]

Lorenzen is making Cingrani look like Greg Maddux.

[marcshoe]

3 runs should be no problem for the Reds offence, right?

Over how many games?

[Tom Servo]

Man, just put in Villarreal and end this. Lorenzen can't and won't get anybody out tonight.

[miamiredskin]

Lorenzen will be busy during the AS break next year. Lot's of guys will want him pitching to them during the HR derby.

[Roy Tucker]

Man, just put in Villarreal and end this. Lorenzen can't and won't get anybody out tonight.

Yeah. I feel bad for the kid but he is throwing meatball after meatball. He's either hurt or tired.

[Tom Servo]

This is just awful. He has absolutely nothing.

[Roy Tucker]

Ok. Let's end his evening here. This serves no purpose.

[Ironman92]

Most hard hit balls I've ever seen against 1 pitcher in this short of time

[Banshee]

Lorenzen will be busy during the AS break next year. Lot's of guys will want him pitching to them during the HR derby.

Main difference in Lorenzen tonight and HR derby/batting practice is that you don't normally see as many pitches hit so hard in BP/derbies..

[marcshoe]

On the other hand, that's a nice sunset out beyond the outfield wall.

[androosh]

If we could just not lose 100 games this year, I'll be a happy man.

[marcshoe]

Hate to see Lorenzen come out of the game before he gets to bat. He should get a chance to succeed at something.

[WrongVerb]

Whatever Pico said seems to have worked.

[miamiredskin]

3 blasts and a bloop.

[WrongVerb]

Upton with a dink double down the right field line that Hamilton just couldn't quite get to.

[TheBigLebowski]

Good thing we're all hoping for losses now.

This bunch is going to make us all VERY happy.

[Ironman92]

55 pitches in 1 1/3 inning and that was FORTUNATE due to BHam.

I feel bad for him because all the other competitors for next year are looking good.

[Tom Servo]

"So that could have gone better"

[Roy Tucker]

Reds need to talk about what to do with Lorenzen. They can't keep running him out there to get his brains beat in regularly.

[miamiredskin]

Mike probably has already texted a "stay home" message to the extra staff he keeps on standby for Wednesdays.

[marcshoe]

Oh, why not?

[Roy Tucker]

Well, at least I won't be up late tonight.

[Tom Servo]

lol

[Ironman92]

What a Gyork

[Banshee]

Well at least that HR was majestic.

[Ironman92]

Lol

[Ironman92]

Well at least that HR was majestic.

Is your name from the Kings Island roller coaster? Been there all day and saw that and thought of you

[BCubb2003]

Good thing we're all hoping for losses now.

This bunch is going to make us all VERY happy.

They should save some of those runs for other losses.

[TheBigLebowski]

Dylan Axelrod - worse than Gregg or a LOT worse?

[WrongVerb]

Sigh

Oh, and Kelch focusing some man-love on Jedd Gyorko :rolleyes:

[Tom Servo]

I almost wish Thom was doing commentary on this game.

[marcshoe]

Listened to a podcast about Dorothy Parker today. She answered her telephone with, "What fresh Hell is this?" Seems appropriate.

[Ironman92]

I almost wish Thom was doing commentary on this game.

Yeah...me too

[WrongVerb]

Dylan Axlerod - worse than Gregg or a LOT worse?

There's a reason he's brought into the game in the 2nd inning when the score is 6-0. Gregg was the pseudo-setup guy for 1.5 months.

[Banshee]

Is your name from the Kings Island roller coaster? Been there all day and saw that and thought of you

Nope. Just been my online nick in games and other things since around '98. Took it from the X-men character who I always thought was kind of cool , before they actually made any decent comic book movies.

[androosh]

Can we put Skip in at pitcher? Might as well save the bullpen arms for a game in which there may be a false sense of a chance it will matter.

Besides, we could use all that grit in a pitcher right now...

[Chuckie]

Broz ... Lorenzen is going with the master plan. Don't hate. Appreciate.

#draftpick

[marcshoe]

Nope. Just been my online nick in games and other things since around '98. Took it from the X-men character who I always thought was kind of cool , before they actually made any decent comic book movies.

I'm from an Irish family that moved into the hills of West Virginia and kept telling their stories, so the name brings other images to mind for me.

[TheBigLebowski]

There's a reason he's brought into the game in the 2nd inning when the score is 6-0. Gregg was the pseudo-setup guy for 1.5 months.

But he is worse than Gregg. Regardless of their roles. And he's not some moderate prospect on whom we're kicking tires. There is no reason for this guy to be in the big leagues other than to facilitate our goal of losing more baseball games. He's got a heavy WUP.

(Wins Under Replacement)

[Chuckie]

This is awesome. We need more games like this. Just no chance of winning; better draft pick assured.

[Tom Servo]

So none of us expect the Reds to actually score any runs off of Rea tonight, right?

[Tom Servo]

This is awesome. We need more games like this. Just no chance of winning; better draft pick assured.
But you've said repeatedly that the front office is run by a bunch of incompetent clowns, if that's the case won't thye just blow the draft pick?

[Banshee]

So none of us expect the Reds to actually score any runs off of Rea tonight, right?

Nope. You? As a matter of a fact, a no-no or 1 hitter won't surprise me.

[WrongVerb]

But you've said repeatedly that the front office is run by a bunch of incompetent clowns, if that's the case won't thye just blow the draft pick?

Family board!

[Roy Tucker]

Rwds aren't looking like a crackerjack outfit tonight.

[Ironman92]

Phillips thought he had a no-doubter

[androosh]

So none of us expect the Reds to actually score any runs off of Rea tonight, right?

Maybe 2 more base hits the rest of the night. Definitely not any runs. I've never been this bored at 11pm before.

[WrongVerb]

So none of us expect the Reds to actually score any runs off of Rea tonight, right?

Since the Reds entered the playoff era they've been much better. But during the lost decade it was a given that 3-4 starters per season would make their debut against the Reds and the team would invariably lose. I'm talking some serious no-name arms, too.

[TheBigLebowski]

Family board!

Yes. Yes yes yes YES. THAT is +WAR humor.

[androosh]

If Lorenzen got the strike zone both teams have had since the bottom of the first, he may have gotten out of it. Definitely some low strikes being called now.

[Banshee]

LOL!

[miamiredskin]

That could have gone better.

[Chip R]

Cue the Benny Hill music.

[androosh]

So that could have gone better.

[Roy Tucker]

Hokie smokes.

Can we run-rule this puppy?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Leave Price in San Diego and hire a manager to put a boot in some asses.

[Red Raindog]

I can't watch this anymore -- good night brave souls

[Ironman92]

Lol again

[Big Klu]

Two runs score on an E5. The third run scores on an E6.

[Ironman92]

Only 2 errors on the play but it seemed even worse

[Big Klu]

Leave Price in San Diego and hire a manager to put a boot in some asses.

Dusty is at the game tonight.

;)

[Larkin Fan]

This is ugly.

[androosh]

Hokie smokes.

Can we run-rule this puppy?What are forfeiture rules? Can Price just go to the crew chief and say 'Sorry for wasting your time tonight. We're just gonna pack up and try again tomorrow'?

[BCubb2003]

The guys need to dial it back some. Make it less obvious. Integrity of the game and stuff.

[Larkin Fan]

Hokie smokes.

Can we run-rule this puppy?

Slaughter rule. It's time.

[androosh]

I can't watch this anymore -- good night brave soulsI can't, either. Cheerio chaps and chapettes.

[TheBigLebowski]

Leave Price in San Diego and hire a manager to put a boot in some asses.

Price excels at putting his team in a position to fail. That's all any bad manager can do. He's perfect for our current needs.

[WrongVerb]

Well, guys I'm out for the night.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Full disclosure: I picked up this kid in my fantasy league today and started him in a must-win situation for my weekly matchup. That's how much confidence I had in the Reds being a complete joke (again) tonight in San Diego.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Dusty is at the game tonight.

;)

I'd almost be willing to put up with horrible No. 2 hitters again.

Where's those Dusty Dice??? :p

[Larkin Fan]

You never know what you have until it's gone. (Re: Dusty)

[Banshee]

Comeback trail, here they come! A run and 2 doubles by Votto and Frazier, on the board!

[Ironman92]

See...positives. Shots by Votto AND Frazier

[kaldaniels]

You never know what you have until it's gone. (Re: Dusty)

Nope. It's Re: 2012 pitching staff.

[Big Klu]

You never know what you have until it's gone. (Re: Dusty)

Don't know what you got (till it's gone)...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2012/04/cinderella530px.jpg

[Larkin Fan]

Nope. It's Re: 2012 pitching staff.

Oh believe me, after managing to get through the lost decade, I knew what the Reds had with that pitching staff.

[RedTeamGo!]

Why? Durability isn't his issue.

Because he is starting to look like a failed starter

[Chuckie]

But you've said repeatedly that the front office is run by a bunch of incompetent clowns, if that's the case won't thye just blow the draft pick?

Funny how you obsess about a random post here and there. Overall, I've been very complimentary of how the Reds have handled this re-tooling to this point.

[BCubb2003]

Because he is starting to look like a failed starter

Maybe as a roogy* because he might not last a whole inning.

*Right-handed loogy. How come nobody ever talks about them?

[Banshee]

3 hits, all XBH's(doubles) and a run for our reds. They are always exceeding my expectations.:evil:

[WVRedsFan]

I cannot believe he left in Lorenzen after 50+ pitches in 1.1 innings to get his head beaten in for 7 runs. The kid, who according to Welsh is 3-4 mph down on his fastball , didn't deserve to get killed like that when it was obvious that he had nothing. Guess Price was saving his bullpen for tomorrow...I give up.

[Big Klu]

Maybe as a roogy* because he might not last a whole inning.

*Right-handed loogy. How come nobody ever talks about them?

This guy does.

http://www.picgifs.com/clip-art/cartoons/scooby-doo/clip-art-scooby-doo-388612.jpg

[WVRedsFan]

Apparently Billy is the "designated catcher"

[Banshee]

Frazier coming out of his coma w/ a couple hard struck hits.

[WVRedsFan]

Frazier warming up just in time lol

- - - Updated - - -

Can someone point me to where the viewing is for this body?

[Ironman92]

When on base always check where the fielders are playing nearest you to enable good jumps and also avoid easy double plays on a line drive

[WVRedsFan]

Basic fundamentals, right?

[Banshee]

Is it possible that this is only the 6th inning?

[Ironman92]

Yankees and Indians in the 16th...bunch of 0-6 and 0-7 for Yankees

[WVRedsFan]

Only 8 of us left and no one posting. Even Servo left. I repeat, where do you view the body? This re-tooling will get worse and we will see 10,000 people crowds at GABP. Less revenue and, well, it ain't easy.

[Chip R]

Only 8 of us left and no one posting. Even Servo left. I repeat, where do you view the body? This re-tooling will get worse and we will see 10,000 people crowds at GABP. Less revenue and, well, it ain't easy.

You exaggerate since the season ticket base is much more than 10,000.

[Big Klu]

Only 8 of us left and no one posting. Even Servo left. I repeat, where do you view the body? This re-tooling will get worse and we will see 10,000 people crowds at GABP. Less revenue and, well, it ain't easy.

The low number on the thread is probably due to a combination of the poor performance and the late hour.

[Ironman92]

Still here

[WVRedsFan]

You exaggerate since the season ticket base is much more than 10,000.

I know. Just maybe 15,000, lol. But it will make a difference, don't you think, Chip?

[Ironman92]

I know. Just maybe 15,000, lol. But it will make a difference, don't you think, Chip?

Don't know....we've stunk and have appeared hapless most of the year. Crowds have been huge this year all 3 times I have went.....and all 3 times had a great time.....and I'm not alone. They are putting fans in the seats this year.

[Ironman92]

I do not believe he touched 26 mph on that catch

[Mutaman]

Toronto 1/2 game out, Harvey with an 8 inning 4 hitter. I've always said NYC is 1/3 Mets fans, 1/3 Yankee fans, and 1/3 front runners. Lots of "Yankee fans" will soon be changing allegiances.

[Ironman92]

Toronto 1/2 game out, Harvey with an 8 inning 4 hitter. I've always said NYC is 1/3 Mets fans, 1/3 Yankee fans, and 1/3 front runners. Lots of "Yankee fans" will soon be changing allegiances.

I don't like the media jumping with the Mets....when they become formidable it's like Rex Ryan and the Jets love. It just gets overblown a bit.

We'll see how they do. Pitching is great and offense doing just enough. I do not trust them but could also see them going on some magical bull crap postseason run.

[Banshee]

I do not believe he touched 26 mph on that catch

When it was rumored that Bo Jackson ran a 4 second flat 40, me and my buddies did the math(alright, I did the math) on it at a bar one night to see what kind of speed that is. The answer is 19 mph avg., so hitting 26 would be pretty damned difficult.

[WVRedsFan]

Billy can't hit, but he can can run and old age will catch up to him before he will ever hit. Sad but true.

[Mutaman]

When it was rumored that Bo Jackson ran a 4 second flat 40, me and my buddies did the math(alright, I did the math) on it at a bar one night to see what kind of speed that is. The answer is 19 mph avg., so hitting 26 would be pretty damned difficult.

Not to mention he was built like a tank. He also had a great arm.

[Banshee]

HR Frazier! So all isn't lost.

[miamiredskin]

Toddfather (finally!)

[Ironman92]

Welcome back Todd....very very mammoth

[WVRedsFan]

Holy Crap!!!! What a hit. Frazier hits a monster homer! 11-4

[Ironman92]

Not to mention he was built like a tank. He also had a great arm.

"Great" isn't enough

[Mutaman]

Of course Pharoah can go 40 MPH and carry that speed over a flat mile, so Bo's no big deal.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Todd Frazier, who has tied Dave Concepcion for 26th place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Jay Bruce - 200
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Joey Votto - 182
13. Brandon Phillips - 176
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101
26. Todd Frazier - 101

[Ironman92]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/11/b7ba6659943a8dcb30d67214cf57f652.jpg

[miamiredskin]

Wow! Power mad Reds.

[WVRedsFan]

That French guy cuts it to 11-6. Can't spell Bourgois or whatever, I'm not French Two dings, I am German

[Ironman92]

Killed that lol

[WVRedsFan]

Rare Craig Ferguson memtion

[Ironman92]

Why we stay up...good things happen

[Mutaman]

https://youtu.be/x1CasBqQOHQ

[BluegrassRedleg]

Well, at least we got to see that monumental blast by Frazier tonight. I guess that was worth staying up to 1 a.m. again. :p

[Big Klu]

Jason Unknown with a PH homer!

[Ironman92]

https://youtu.be/x1CasBqQOHQ

How about the throw from the warning track...in the air to the catcher to throw out Harold Reynolds...and hardly a crow hop.

[Ironman92]

Well, at least we got to see that monumental blast by Frazier tonight. I guess that was worth staying up to 1 a.m. again. :p

We watch the miserable first 2 innings...many of us can enjoy the last several

[Ironman92]

Why not PH Byrd for Skip?

[miamiredskin]

Well, it took awhile, but the other Schu finally dropped. Night, all.

[Ironman92]

Gritty sucks

[WVRedsFan]

Fittingly, the pitiful Skippy, who Walt loves because he was a Cardinal make the last out on a weak grounder. I could go on, but you know what I would say. I am so disgusted with the current manager that it's not worth it if no one else sees it.. Good night

[WVRedsFan]

We watch the miserable first 2 innings...many of us can enjoy the last severalYessir. I rarely don't watch it all, tough sometimes. it's not just the lack of Homer, Mike and Johnny, it has more to do with other things,

[Big Klu]

Why not PH Byrd for Skip?

Byrd pinch-hit for Axelrod earlier in the game.

[Mutaman]

How about the throw from the warning track...in the air to the catcher to throw out Harold Reynolds...and hardly a crow hop.

I was at the yankee stadium watching the White Sox, not paying much attention, and some dude out in right field threw an absolute lazer to home plate. Who was that out there? It was Bo, after his injury in his last year. Most amazing athlete I've ever seen.

[Ironman92]

Byrd pinch-hit for Axelrod earlier in the game.

Thanks

Ok...why ever bat Skip 2nd?

[Big Klu]

Thanks

Ok...why ever bat Skip 2nd?

Good question. I would have preferred Ivan Jr. in the #2 spot tonight. My lineup (using tonight's personnel) would have been:

Phillips 2b
DeJesus ss
Votto 1b
Frazier 3b
Bruce rf
Barnhart c
Schumaker lf
Lorenzen p
Hamilton cf

[Big Klu]

Tonight's "Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game" is Padres RHP Colin Rea. The former Indiana State Sycamore pitched 5 innings allowing 3 runs on 7 hits with 4 K's and 1 BB to earn the win in his major-league debut, and also singled in his first major-league plate appearance.

[WVRedsFan]

Why have Skip on the team is a better question. Just like Hannahan and so many others--dumpster can players. And why start him? So dumb. Why leave Lorenzen in until the game is out of reach and then counter with Axlerod when you are out of the pennant race and trying to save your bullpen. Such ignorance. Apparently, no one is thinking on our way to 100 losses. And he will be rewarded for this with the crutch of injuries and all that.

[Big Klu]

I was at the yankee stadium watching the White Sox, not paying much attention, and some dude out in right field threw an absolute lazer to home plate. Who was that out there? It was Bo, after his injury in his last year. Most amazing athlete I've ever seen.

If you've never seen it, check out the "30 for 30" documentary on ESPN about Bo Jackson. Very well done.

[WVRedsFan]

Dusty in the house. I imagine he watched this mess and shook his head in disbelief. Whatever you think of Johnny B, it was never this bad. Blast me all you want because I had my reservation about Dusty, but this is just unbearable and it has nothing to do with the loss of Homer, Johnny, and Mike, It has more to do with in-game decisions and blank looks while the team is embarrassed. Jerry Narron and even Bob Boone probably shake their heads, though they're not worthy.

[Big Klu]

Sometimes I wonder if Dusty would have had a better way of handling Billy Hamilton's progress, seeing as how he was a young athletic OF early in his playing days. Maybe Billy wouldn't have struggled as much.

I think he had a good relationship with Jay Bruce.

[WVRedsFan]

Sometimes I wonder if Dusty would have had a better way of handling Billy Hamilton's progress, seeing as how he was a young athletic OF early in his playing days. Maybe Billy wouldn't have struggled as much.

I think he had a good relationship with Jay Bruce.Yeah, Klu. I agree. I just don't like what I am seeing, and have a lot of trouble that so many do not,

[ScotlandRed]

I think this should be Lorenzens last start for the Reds this season. Him getting beat up every start is doing no one any good, especially himself. He'll be lucky to reach his innings limit if this continues.

[Raisor]

Yeah, Klu. I agree. I just don't like what I am seeing, and have a lot of trouble that so many do not,

It's a lost season. You need to relax or you are going to give yourself a stroke.

[cumberlandreds]

I think this should be Lorenzens last start for the Reds this season. Him getting beat up every start is doing no one any good, especially himself. He'll be lucky to reach his innings limit if this continues.

I didn't see any of this game but I agree with you. More beatings and Lorenzen will have zero confidence. Just shut him down for the season and come back in the spring with a chance to make the staff. Kudo's to those of you who stayed up to watch it all. Even in my younger days I'm not sure I would have stayed up past the 2nd inning.

[reds44]

I didn't see any of this game but I agree with you. More beatings and Lorenzen will have zero confidence. Just shut him down for the season and come back in the spring with a chance to make the staff. Kudo's to those of you who stayed up to watch it all. Even in my younger days I'm not sure I would have stayed up past the 2nd inning.

I'm 25 and didn't make it until first pitch haha.

[Ironman92]

Sometimes I wonder if Dusty would have had a better way of handling Billy Hamilton's progress, seeing as how he was a young athletic OF early in his playing days. Maybe Billy wouldn't have struggled as much.

I think he had a good relationship with Jay Bruce.

Drew Stubbs says no

['69]

Drew Stubbs says no

Yep, this. And the fact Billy chose #6 as his number...guess the irony was lost on him. ;)

[WVRedsFan]

It's a lost season. You need to relax or you are going to give yourself a stroke.

Nah, I'm not stressing over this at all, Phil. I just cannot align myself with losing and dumb moves. Losing is not as bad a sting these days, however. I expect it every game. When they win like tonight against the Padres, it's a surprise. A nice surprise.