9/6/15 - Reds vs Brewers

[Tom Servo]

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"Nice game yesterday Duvall, grab some bench."

[KittyDuran]

FYI
@Reds: Leading up to Riverfest, there will be short bursts of fireworks near GABP on-the-hour starting at noon. We do not expect it to impact play.

Just heard them go off and thought it was signally the organist to start playing! It was "Lunch with the Beatles" recordings before that... [emoji74]

[Chuckie]

Holy crap, the season is so bad FSN isn't even televising a Sunday game on a holiday weekend? Goodness gracious.

[Tom Servo]

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[Chuckie]

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"Nice game yesterday Duvall, grab some bench."

Well, at least Price learned batting Suarez 7th is incredibly stupid. Oh wait.

Does anyone learn LESS from their mistakes than Bryan Price? I'm being serious.

[R_Webb18]

Yea I was shocked to see no TV. o well

[Chuckie]

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It's the Curse of Chuckie.

And you're welcome. (You will all be thanking me come June of 2016. You'll also be thanking the likes of Skip Schumaker, David Holmberg, Ryan LaMarre, Keyvius Sampson, et al.)

[NebraskaRed]

How long until the Reds start putting cardboard cutouts of people in the stands and pumping in a recording of cheers and applause?

I'd estimate the crowd at a healthy 75 people.

[NebraskaRed]

Scooter with a single, but then caught stealing. Two fly outs to Jason Unknown to end the inning.

Hello? hello...hello...is there anybody out there?

[757690]

I'm watching the game on Directv Extra innings. It has FSO Fox doing the game. Kelsh and Welsh announcing. Channel 748

[Big Klu]

I think today's game was originally not going to be televised, but has been added to the TV schedule due to Friday's rainout.

[R_Webb18]

Yea it is on FS Ohio the guide is wrong or they decided to air b/c Friday game wasn't on.

[Chuckie]

Good call fellas, thanks. Watching now on FSN Ohio. My guide said there was no game.

[Tom Servo]

Votto walks with two outs and passes off the responsibility of driving him in to BP.

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Hello? hello...hello...is there anybody out there?
Just nod if you can hear me.

[Tom Servo]

BP bloop single to CF makes it 1st and 3rd for Bruce

Weird play at first, Bruce called safe on a grounder to first and a run scores.

Brewers are challenging, I think he may have been out.

[Chuckie]

BP is living right. His BABIP must be off the charts lately.

[757690]

Seems like Nelson ran a nice pick on Bruce.

[Chuckie]

Good thing Suarez is batting 7th and won't get a chance to bat in a first-and-third, two-outs situation.

Said by no one (except the Brewers).

And I like DeJesus, but batting him ahead of Suarez makes no sense. Batting Schumaker ahead of Suarez yesterday took the cake though. That was so incredibly stupid ... and Price learned nothing from it.

[NebraskaRed]

Obstruction?

Was Lind's foot even on the bag?

[Tom Servo]

call stands

1-0 Redlegs

[ScotlandRed]

MLBTV Game Of The Day for me. Don't think Lind's foot was on bag. Messy play. BP on fire.

[Chuckie]

For the RBIheads, Jay now has 73 ribbies on the season.

"Shake it off" Jay haters.

"Haters gonna hate."

[Tom Servo]

Good thing Suarez didn't get a chance to bat that inning, the Reds might have scored more runs.

[Chuckie]

And Suarez amazingly is unable to get a hit from the on-deck circle. Inning ends. 1-0 Redlegs.

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Good thing Suarez didn't get a chance to bat that inning, the Reds might have scored more runs.

Echo, echo, ech, ec, e.

[757690]

I'm not a batting order guy, but it does seem silly to be batting one of the team's best hitters in the bottom of the lineup.

[NebraskaRed]

Leadoff walk to Lind, but nothing doing for the Brewers after that.

[Tom Servo]

Ah yes, Greg Reynolds. What a time to be alive.

[Chuckie]

I'm not a batting order guy, but it does seem silly to be batting one of the team's best hitters in the bottom of the lineup.

Especially after what happened yesterday, "seems silly" doesn't even do it justice. I would go with "incredibly stupid." Suarez should never bat below 5th in the lineup IMO. Maybe 6th next year when Mesoraco is back, but on this team right now, he should never bat lower than 5th. Let alone 7th. Price continues to prove he's in over his head and doesn't learn from his cadre of mistakes.

[BCubb2003]

I'm not a batting order guy, but it does seem silly to be batting one of the team's best hitters in the bottom of the lineup.

It's not so much the order but the cluster that makes a difference. If you give the pitcher some rest spots along the way, he can puck his way through the good hitters.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Holy crap, the season is so bad FSN isn't even televising a Sunday game on a holiday weekend? Goodness gracious.

Free game of the day for MLB.tv

[Chuckie]

Free game of the day for MLB.tv

The game is on TV. Just wasn't originally scheduled to be on (someone said they aired this one to make up for Friday's rainout, but they aired both games of the DH yesterday, so that logic doesn't make much sense to me).

[Tom Servo]

Lorenzen pitching a lot like Louisville Lorenzen so far today.

[NebraskaRed]

Quick 7 pitch inning for Lorenzen

[_Sir_Charles_]

7 pitch inning. That'll work Michael.

[757690]

Maybe it's because it's getaway day after a long, rain delayed double header, so the Brewers are too tired to care, but Lorenzen looks like a different pitcher than earlier in the season.

[Tom Servo]

So running Frazier in front of Votto was stupid, easily thrown out trying to steal 2nd.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Well that wasn't particularly close. :(

[ScotlandRed]

Stupid steal. I also hate when the runner spends half the time looking at the catch rather than getting his head down and digging for the bag.

[Tom Servo]

Votto walks with two outs and passes off the responsibility of driving him in to BP.

[_Sir_Charles_]

And now you see the stupidity of a steal in front of Votto. He would've been on second ANYWAY. I mean good lord, he's getting on base at like a 50% clip.

[Tom Servo]

And now you see the stupidity of a steal in front of Votto. He would've been on second ANYWAY. I mean good lord, he's getting on base at like a 50% clip.
Plus it's not like Frazier is a burner on the basepaths, he's a good runner who can swipe a base if when pitcher gives him the chance. Nelson was throwing over and keeping him close, having him still try and steal the base as though he's Billy Hamilton was terrible.

[_Sir_Charles_]

:jump: BPHIL!!! It "should" be 4-0. But I'm not going to complain about 3-0

[Tom Servo]

DatDude! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs

[NebraskaRed]

Dat duuuuuuude

[cumberlandreds]

The game is on TV. Just wasn't originally scheduled to be on (someone said they aired this one to make up for Friday's rainout, but they aired both games of the DH yesterday, so that logic doesn't make much sense to me).

FWIW FSO did not televise the 2nd game because of UC football game.

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Phillips the base unclogger!!!!

[ScotlandRed]

For all the rumors that BP and Joey didn't like each other. They seem to have had a lot of fun playing next to each other this season.

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0-0, 2 runs, 2 BBs for Joey, watch out Bryce...

[BCubb2003]

Another Votto batted in.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I love, love, LOVE that at bat by Bruce. Inside out swing and goes the other way.

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For all the rumors that BP and Joey didn't like each other. They seem to have had a lot of fun playing next to each other this season.

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0-0, 2 runs, 2 BBs for Joey, watch out Bryce...

This is the first time I've heard this even hinted at. Where are these rumors you're talking about?

[ScotlandRed]

Pitcher must be so much happier seeing De Jesus coming to bat after Jay than Suarez.

Oh well, Suarez now.

[Raisor]

Another Votto batted in.

VBI

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Jay Bruce - 201
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Joey Votto - 190
12. Vada Pinson - 186
13. Brandon Phillips - 179
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Todd Frazier - 103
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[NebraskaRed]

Talking about hiring a fan favorite as manager (Craig Counsell)

Foreshadowing.

[ScotlandRed]

I love, love, LOVE that at bat by Bruce. Inside out swing and goes the other way.

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This is the first time I've heard this even hinted at. Where are these rumors you're talking about?

Did Brandon not show a bit of disdain about Votto's approach at the plate, then Votto had a dig back at him? Maybe im imagining things.

[Tom Servo]

This is the first time I've heard this even hinted at. Where are these rumors you're talking about?
Think it goes back to the rumors last year of Reds players thinking Votto should have been playing hurt.

And the article about their approaches from spring training

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/03/23/cincinnati-reds-joey-votto-brandon-phillips-on-base-percentage-rbi/70337854/


"I don't do that MLB Network on-base percentage (stuff),'' Phillips told USA TODAY Sports. "I think that's messing up baseball. I think people now are just worried about getting paid and worrying about on-base percentage instead of just winning the game.

"That's the new thing now. I feel like all of these stats and all of these geeks upstairs, they're messing up baseball, they're just changing the game. It's all about on-base percentage. If you don't get on base, then you suck. That's basically what they're saying. People don't care about RBI or scoring runs, it's all about getting on base.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Did Brandon not show a bit of disdain about Votto's approach at the plate, then Votto had a dig back at him? Maybe im imagining things.

Not that I can ever recall.

Tom posted the stuff. I'd missed that.

[Big Klu]

The game is on TV. Just wasn't originally scheduled to be on (someone said they aired this one to make up for Friday's rainout, but they aired both games of the DH yesterday, so that logic doesn't make much sense to me).

Game 2 yesterday was not televised.

[ScotlandRed]

Not that I can ever recall.

Tom posted the stuff. I'd missed that.

Anyway, they seem to having fun playing next to each (as much as they can on this horrible team) more than I can remember, good to see.

[Tom Servo]

You've got a 3 run lead Mike, just throw strikes to Lind.


Lind singles to left, but that's better than the 4 pitch walk to him earlier IMO. Lorenzen gets the next guy to pop up to first.

Four scoreless now for Lorenzen.

[NebraskaRed]

Lorenzen has only given up 2 hits in 4 innings.

[Tom Servo]

Skippy didn't win the Heart & Hustle award?

[Kc61]

Nice outing so far by Lorenzen, lots of ground balls, probably could go deep into the game.

Still would hope he can add a few more Ks to the assortment, but impressive so far today.

[Raisor]

Anyway, they seem to having fun playing next to each (as much as they can on this horrible team) more than I can remember, good to see.

Everything I've ever read shows they like each other a great deal and are good friends. They disagree on how offense works.

[NebraskaRed]

ESPN Stats
‏@ESPNStatsInfo
Johnny Cueto allows 3 ER on 4 H in the 1st inning today against the White Sox.

He's allowed 34 H and 19 ER over his last 18 IP (4 starts)


Come back home, Johnny.

[BCubb2003]

How many of us had to work on Todd Frazier Day?

[Tom Servo]

How many of us had to work on Todd Frazier Day?
Unlike those caught up in the materialism of it, I remembered to honor the troops on Todd Frazier Day.

[Tom Servo]

Sawed off soft single for Segura, was a hit as soon as it got past Lorenzen on the mound. Now a single to left.

Runners on 1st and 2nd with the pitcher up and one out. Nelson sac bunts the runners over to 2nd and 3rd, two outs.

Lorenzen gets Scooter Gennett to fly out weakly to CF. 5 scoreless innings.

[Tom Servo]

Votto Ks
BP with another single on a pitch in on the hands muscled into to center

[Tom Servo]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce! :jump:

#20 on the year. 5-0 Redlegs!

[ScotlandRed]

Jay!

[_Sir_Charles_]

BRUUUUUUUUCE!!! :jump:

Hit #999 for Jay.

[757690]

Raisor will be happy to post his update tomorrow.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Jay Bruce - 202
10. Barry Larkin - 198
11. Joey Votto - 190
12. Vada Pinson - 186
13. Brandon Phillips - 179
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Todd Frazier - 103
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Raisor]

I feel a Bruce update coming soon

[757690]

Even Kelsh is skeptical of the Reds pen, lol.

[Raisor]

Raisor will be happy to post his update tomorrow.

I've been too busy at work but I might fit one in soon

[Tom Servo]

Suarez singles again

[Beatlessp]

im sure this has been asked a hundred times, but i dont look at game threads often....did Jay lose a bet? Taylor Swift for walk up music is just odd to me.

[Tom Servo]

Leadoff double for Lucroy in the 6th

Braun singles to center. 1st and 3rd with no outs.

[Tom Servo]

Lind hits what looked like could be a DP ball, but the Reds only get the runner at 2nd. Not sure what went wrong, though the ball wasn't hit terribly hard.

5-1 game

Single to left for Khris Davis, Milwaukee getting to Lorenzen this inning.

[Razor Shines]

im sure this has been asked a hundred times, but i dont look at game threads often....did Jay lose a bet? Taylor Swift for walk up music is just odd to me.

No need to ask, I'm fairly certain it was confirmed 100% he picked that song because he doesn't care about baseball. Whether he has a good or bad game he can just shake it off.

[Tom Servo]

Peterson singles to center, this is starting to look a lot like yesterday with Lamb.

5-2 game


Lorenzen's day is done, LeCure coming in.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Good outing by Lorenzen. Wheels came off a bit at the end, but a nice start.

Okay Sam...close the door.

2 soft fly outs. Nicely done Sam. I'd love it if he became "the man" once again.

[Tom Servo]

LeCure gets out of the jam with a little help from Suarez.

5-2 game to the bottom of 6

[NebraskaRed]

let LeCure bat...let LeCure bat...

[ScotlandRed]

Good god it's skip.

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It seems like we say it everyday, but that should be sKips last red appearance

[Tom Servo]

"Schumaker still leads the league in pinch hits this year"

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[NebraskaRed]

Productive appearance by Skip. He did what LeCure definitely could not have done.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Skip has a small clause in his contract...if he doesn't reach 200 ab's, he gets to send nude selfies to the entire Reds F.O. Hence...Skip gets to play. *shudder*

[RedlegJake]

"Schumaker still leads the league in pinch hits this year"

https://38.media.tumblr.com/39ddc2560fa25cdf02a1fb6c407fe61e/tumblr_n6z4us5c161t42np6o7_250.gif

That would impress me if all they did was use him to pinch hit....kinda like Heisey last year. Good pinch hitter, horrible regular player

[NebraskaRed]

Wavy Cravy hits Frazier

[Tom Servo]

Can the 7th and 8th inning guys hold the 3 run lead until Chapman comes in?

[BCubb2003]

Wavy Cravy hits Frazier

On Todd Frazier Day? That's like booing Santa Claus.

[Tom Servo]

Mattheus with a 1-2-3 scoreless 7th

['69]

Can the 7th and 8th inning guys hold the 3 run lead until Chapman comes in?

Does Villereal pitch?

[Tom Servo]

Does Villereal pitch?
I don't think so, probably Hoover or Parra.

['69]

Does Skip really? And yet the Reds are ranked 25th in baseball in pinch hitting with a .187 AvG with the 9th most PH-ABs (35-187)

[Tom Servo]

Hoover in for the 8th with a 3 run lead

He gives up a leadoff HR to Braun

['69]

Groover

[Tom Servo]

I have had enough of JJ Hoover for one lifetime.

[NebraskaRed]

Do we need to talk about Hoover?

[ScotlandRed]

This is ****ing ridiculous

[BCubb2003]

Chris Welsh brings up not using your closer against the heart of the order.

[NebraskaRed]

C. Trent Rosecrans ‏@ctrent 9s9 seconds ago
Aroldis Chapman is up in the #Reds bullpen with no outs in the 8th

[NebraskaRed]

Someone play devil's advocate for me and explain why you would not put Chapman in against the 3, 4, and 5 hitters in the 8th, and let Hoover pitch the 9th?

I'm not being sarcastic. I really want to understand the thought process.

[Tom Servo]

Someone play devil's advocate for me and explain why you would not put Chapman in against the 3, 4, and 5 hitters in the 8th, and let Hoover pitch the 9th?

I'm not being sarcastic. I really want to understand the thought process.
I guess because the of the save statistic being coveted by each reliever for fiduciary reasons.

[757690]

Someone play devil's advocate for me and explain why you would not put Chapman in against the 3, 4, and 5 hitters in the 8th, and let Hoover pitch the 9th?

I'm not being sarcastic. I really want to understand the thought process.

I'm not sure it mattered that much. Hoover was likely to give up a homer, regardless of who was batting.

[BCubb2003]

Someone play devil's advocate for me and explain why you would not put Chapman in against the 3, 4, and 5 hitters in the 8th, and let Hoover pitch the 9th?

I'm not being sarcastic. I really want to understand the thought process.

I don't agree with it, but it goes like: You'll overuse your closer (instead of underusing), and what if Hoover screws up the ninth (instead of screwing up the eighth)?

[757690]

I wish the Reds still had Jared Burton. Then they could have a batting order with the 8th and 9th hitters would be...

LaMarre Burton.

#STNG

[NebraskaRed]

LaMarre gets a hit, and robs us from seeing his batting average reach .0000000001

[ScotlandRed]

These have been the 2 ugliest bunt attempts I've seen. He seems like he was scared of the ball.

[Tom Servo]

Bourgeois can't bunt. Glad we have him up there doing that instead of letting Duvall have the at-bat and seeing if he can hit one over the wall.


Booger singles to left tho, bases loaded no outs for Frazier.

[BCubb2003]

I wish the Reds still had Jared Burton. Then they could have a batting order with the 8th and 9th hitters would be...

LaMarre Burton.

#STNG

Like the glory days when the Reds had an outfield of Young, Frank and Stynes.

[ScotlandRed]

Frazier swings at 2 balls, run scores but GIDP. Frustrating.

[Tom Servo]

Frazier GIDP but the runs scores

6-3 game

[Raisor]

@JoeyNOTto: @Tclett_FanofBP I played D1 ball (UC), so I know what Im talking about. We were told a walk with risp is not much better than an out.

Votto failed again

[757690]

I would have loved to hear Jeff Piecoro roast Pete Rose

[Tom Servo]

Rare selfishness from BP, he hands off the responsibility to drive in the runner from 3rd to Bruce.

[BCubb2003]

This is why some fans still don't get OBP.

[Tom Servo]

Chappy picks up the save with relative ease, two Ks and a groundout.

We're good again! :beerme:

[WVRedsFan]

Nm

[WVRedsFan]

I have had enough of JJ Hoover for one lifetime.

Trade him now...ER, as soon as possible. He's back to 2014 form. And I agree with your sentiment.