SEC Football Discussion #5

[Boston Red]

No, he was actually trying to help me out with his porous defense. I just think he's pretty awful at his job. And he was pretty clearly a disaster at UF.

[jojo]

No, he was actually trying to help me out with his porous defense. I just think he's pretty awful at his job.

He's actually pretty good. What he has done with the Auburn secondary is very impressive. That's going to be a great group.

[KronoRed]

"I screwed up, I'm a dumb-ass"

That quote should be the epitaph of his UF coaching career.

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South Carolina should forget going after a DC, find an old coach ready to retire, it's worked for their last 2 hires and it worked for KY with Rich Brooks, call me crazy but I think this a job for Phil Fulmer :D

[cumberlandreds]

"I screwed up, I'm a dumb-ass"

That quote should be the epitaph of his UF coaching career.

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South Carolina should forget going after a DC, find an old coach ready to retire, it's worked for their last 2 hires and it worked for KY with Rich Brooks, call me crazy but I think this a job for Phil Fulmer :D

I hear Granny Holtz would like to make a comeback in Columbia.

[Boston Red]

Lee Corso is also available.

[Tom Servo]

Lee Corso is also available.
Until recently I had no idea he was 80, he looks good for his age.

[WVRed]

So can Clemson.

True,. I would say South Carolina can offer playing in the SEC but given the SEC has basically become the dinosaur in the room it's likely about even now.

[Assembly Hall]

Until recently I had no idea he was 80, he looks good for his age.

Good PEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WVRed]

Just saw where Mack Brown told the SEC Network that he would be interested in South Carolina.

Might as well make Columbia the official retirement home for college football coaches.

[jojo]

Just saw where Mack Brown told the SEC Network that he would be interested in South Carolina.

Might as well make Columbia the official retirement home for college football coaches.

After listening to his PBP on Thursday night, I'm not sure he has the mental energy left to be a head coach.

[jojo]

A lot of people who have been paying attention knew ole miss was facing a trap game today. Memphis is good and ole miss' defense is riddled with injury and lacking depth.

[KronoRed]

The air gets let out of the old missy balloon and they deflate fast, happened last year too, I see 2-3 more losses for them.

[Tom Servo]

I had a feeling undefeated Memphis might upset Ole Miss, but that feeling subsided a bit after Ole Miss had jumped out to a 14-0 lead.

Houston and Memphis may both be undefeated when they meet in a few weeks.

[Assembly Hall]

A lot of people who have been paying attention knew ole miss was facing a trap game today. Memphis is good and ole miss' defense is riddled with injury and lacking depth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yebDP2Y5-y0

[dabvu2498]

Les Miles rings like a belled cat when he walks.

[19braves77]

That Alabama game was fun. You can tell it kills Kiffen to run the ball.

I think Bama's swing game now is Tennessee vs Alabama. This could be a 10-9 letdown victory.

[Boston Red]

I wouldn't really call what Ole Miss faced a trap game. Just got whipped by a superior opponent.

[Brutus]

I wouldn't really call what Ole Miss faced a trap game. Just got whipped by a superior opponent.

Agreed. When a team is undefeated, it can't be called a trap. No one can be caught off guard by someone who is undefeated.

The problem here really stems from people overreacting by one game in the first place. This happens every year with the SEC. One team beats another highly ranked team early and everyone freaks out. You wind up with a trail of incest through transitive property. It started last year with A&M's blowout of South Carolina, and then continued all year long.

When Ole Miss beat 'Bammer, I knew we'd see the same thing. People jumped on the Ole Miss bandwagon far too quickly like they were some juggernaut. Truth is, they're a good but not great team that just had a really good night. Memphis wasn't a trap. Ole Miss just isn't as great as people thought after week three and Memphis is a good team that was far better today.

[jojo]

Memphis absolutely was a trap game in every sense of the word despite others trying to use it as a stool to spin a preformed narrative. A healthy Ole Miss probably wins in a game that not a lot of people other than purists paid alot of attention to. But Ole Miss isn't healthy, and Memphis is a top 20 calibre team that nobody was paying attention to and certainly nobody standing on a stool or in a pile of it had circled before the Bama game as one that will be a tell. There was alot of talk around here (the loveliest village on the plains) about the potential for an upset in Memphis but didn't see any of it coming from the ones posturing as "truth givers". This notion that the South overrated Ole Miss is just more contrived narrative. Nationally, they were ranked in the top 15 and it's perfectly reasonable to believe that a healthy Ole Miss team could be a top 10 team.

[Boston Red]

Memphis is just superior to Ole Miss this year. It happens. Fuentes will get a better job, and Memphis will go back to being Memphis. But for this year they're the best team in that region (Memphis, UT, Ole Miss, Miss. St. and Arkansas).

[jojo]

Memphis is just superior to Ole Miss this year. It happens. Fuentes will get a better job, and Memphis will go back to being Memphis. But for this year they're the best team in that region (Memphis, UT, Ole Miss, Miss. St. and Arkansas).

It's probably a good thing that Bama didn't play them in Tuscaloosa.

[Boston Red]

It's probably a good thing that Bama didn't play them in Tuscaloosa.

Maybe they'll get them in the playoffs.

[Assembly Hall]

Maybe they'll get them in the playoffs.

Not if Houston has anything to say about it!!!!!!

[Sea Ray]

After listening to his PBP on Thursday night, I'm not sure he has the mental energy left to be a head coach.

I'll say. He doesn't even know the rules. He did a game this week and he couldn't figure out why the clock ran after an out of bounds play. Well in college football the clock does start after the ball is placed on an out of bounds play. Apparently Mack wasn't up on that...and if he's not, how can he coach a game properly in a close game? Really goes to show how some coaches are "figureheads"

[Sea Ray]

Memphis is just superior to Ole Miss this year. It happens. Fuentes will get a better job, and Memphis will go back to being Memphis. But for this year they're the best team in that region (Memphis, UT, Ole Miss, Miss. St. and Arkansas).

If you're including UT-Knoxville as their "region" then you have to include Alabama too. Tuscaloosa is closer to Memphis than Knoxville is by over 100 miles.

BTW, UC very well could have beaten Memphis this year. I wish UT-Knoxille had played 'em

[Brutus]

A lot of people who have been paying attention knew ole miss was facing a trap game today. Memphis is good and ole miss' defense is riddled with injury and lacking depth.


Memphis absolutely was a trap game in every sense of the word despite others trying to use it as a stool to spin a preformed narrative. A healthy Ole Miss probably wins in a game that not a lot of people other than purists paid alot of attention to. But Ole Miss isn't healthy, and Memphis is a top 20 calibre team that nobody was paying attention to and certainly nobody standing on a stool or in a pile of it had circled before the Bama game as one that will be a tell. There was alot of talk around here (the loveliest village on the plains) about the potential for an upset in Memphis but didn't see any of it coming from the ones posturing as "truth givers". This notion that the South overrated Ole Miss is just more contrived narrative. Nationally, they were ranked in the top 15 and it's perfectly reasonable to believe that a healthy Ole Miss team could be a top 10 team.

By definition, if people who are paying attention know it's a trap, it's therefore not a trap.

Trap games are ones you don't see coming. If you know it's a good team you're facing because you've been "paying attention" then it's not a trap.

Everything you just said is a complete contradiction. People that were paying attention knew Memphis was good. Therefore, it wasn't a trap.

Also, for worrying about narratives, you're spinning some of your own. I noticed you said "this notion that the South overrated Ole Miss is just more contrived narrative." Funny, nowhere in my post did I say anything about the "South" overrating Ole Miss.

[jojo]

By definition, if people who are paying attention know it's a trap, it's therefore not a trap.

Trap games are ones you don't see coming. If you know it's a good team you're facing because you've been "paying attention" then it's not a trap.

Everything you just said is a complete contradiction. People that were paying attention knew Memphis was good. Therefore, it wasn't a trap.

Only if one adopts your invalid definition. Pretty clearly no one had this game circled, ever. Pretty clearly, those familiar with both teams could say "this might be an oh oh" when rationally looking at the game last week. Seriously doubt you did. This tread had an SEC fan make predictions on games, presumably ones he thought would be meaningful ones, and the Ole Miss game was conspicuously absent. It obviously was a trap game. It was an out of conference game against a traditionally inferior opponent in a traditionally inferior conference and Ole Miss got 'em when they appear to be much better than usual, Ole Miss is really banged up and Ole Miss had to travel to boot. No one would've predicted this wouldve been much of game before the season much less four weeks ago. Trap.


Also, for worrying about narratives, you're spinning some of your own. I noticed you said "this notion that the South overrated Ole Miss is just more contrived narrative." Funny, nowhere in my post did I say anything about the "South" overrating Ole Miss.

As usual, in with the narrative built on hindsight and metacommentary. Good thing you just KNEW that people would overrate Ole Miss after they beat Bama in Tuscaloosa.

[Assembly Hall]

My definition of a trap game is that when you are a good team, you are getting ready to play 2 quality opponents in a 3 game stretch with a lesser team sandwiched in the middle. So Ole Miss's trap game was Memphis sandwiched in between New Mexico St. and Texas A&M? Doesnt work for me. By how I define it, NM St. should have been the trap game. But each to their own interpretation.

[Boston Red]

My definition of a trap game is when a "name" school loses to a "lesser" program and needs an excuse.

[villain612]

I have no idea if it was a trap game or not, but the second weekend of October is usually a pretty strange time for a non-conference game.

Is that a normal thing in the SEC? (I don't follow those teams as closely as I do the B1G)

[Assembly Hall]

My definition of a trap game is when a "name" school loses to a "lesser" program and needs an excuse.

Good thing Auburn escaped that trap game against Jacksonville St!!!!!!

[Boston Red]

All the SEC teams seem to sprinkle their OOC games in during the season. Miss State played LA Tech this weekend. Vandy played MTSU last week. I know Kentucky still has Charlotte in a few weeks. And then, of course, there's the "rivalry weekend" after Turkey Day with Clemson/South Carolina, Florida/Florida State, Georgia/Ga Tech and Louisville/Kentucky.

[jojo]

My definition of a trap game is that when you are a good team, you are getting ready to play 2 quality opponents in a 3 game stretch with a lesser team sandwiched in the middle. So Ole Miss's trap game was Memphis sandwiched in between New Mexico St. and Texas A&M? Doesnt work for me. By how I define it, NM St. should have been the trap game. But each to their own interpretation.

It's a game you're expected to win pretty easily by most though circumstances are such that an upset could happen and the game precedes an opponent you'd be expected to look ahead to... You wouldn't expect Ole Miss to look ahead to Texas A&M?

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Good thing Auburn escaped that trap game against Jacksonville St!!!!!!

IU might be considered a trap game by every opponent on their schedule.

[Boston Red]

When they're going on the road against an undefeated team?!? Uh...no.

I guess Notre Dame has a trap game coming against Temple on Halloween.

[Assembly Hall]

It's a game you're expected to win pretty easily by most though circumstances are such that an upset could happen and the game precedes an opponent you'd be expected to look ahead to... You wouldn't expect Ole Miss to look ahead to Texas A&M?

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IU might be considered a trap game by every opponent on their schedule.

Fair enough.

[Assembly Hall]

When they're going on the road against an undefeated team?!? Uh...no.

I guess Notre Dame has a trap game coming against Temple on Halloween.

Yeah, the Irish have Pittsburgh on their minds.

[jojo]

When they're going on the road against an undefeated team?!? Uh...no.

I guess Notre Dame has a trap game coming against Temple on Halloween.

When it's an out of conference game against a traditionally inferior opponent in a traditionally inferior conference, the opponent's record isn't really all that relevant. This year, Memphis is stout but no one had this one circled even a month ago. Ole Miss was still favored by like 11 on the road despite their injury issues. Trap games are ones people count as a "gonna win" but they come with circumstances that can bite you in the backside.

[Boston Red]

circumstances that can bite you in the backside.

In this case, "circumstances" being a superior football team wearing the other colors.

[Assembly Hall]

When it's an out of conference game against a traditionally inferior opponent in a traditionally inferior conference, the opponent's record isn't really all that relevant. This year, Memphis is stout but no one had this one circled even a month ago. Ole Miss was still favored by like 11 on the road despite their injury issues. Trap games are ones people count as a "gonna win" but they come with circumstances that can bite you in the backside.

So you are saying Jacksonville St. was a trap game by your definition?

[jojo]

So you are saying Jacksonville St. was a trap game by your definition?

Sure. Why wouldn't it be?

[Brutus]

I suppose the best way to dissect "trap game" is to get the definition of trap since we know what a game is.

Some definitions...

Trap

2.
a situation in which people lie in wait to make a surprise attack.

Trap

2.
any device, stratagem, trick, or the like for catching a person unawares.

Trap

2
a : something by which one is caught or stopped unawares; also : a position or situation from which it is difficult or impossible to escape


Every definition I've found has the element of surprise being a key component.

If we're applying the definition of a trap to football scheduling, it would seem, therefore, that facing an undefeated team you know is good is not a "trap." If you see the trap so that you can avoid it, it's not really a trap.

[jojo]

I suppose the best way to dissect "trap game" is to get the definition of trap since we know what a game is.

Some definitions...

Trap

2.
a situation in which people lie in wait to make a surprise attack.

Trap

2.
any device, stratagem, trick, or the like for catching a person unawares.

Trap

2
a : something by which one is caught or stopped unawares; also : a position or situation from which it is difficult or impossible to escape


Every definition I've found has the element of surprise being a key component.

If we're applying the definition of a trap to football scheduling, it would seem, therefore, that facing an undefeated team you know is good is not a "trap." If you see the trap so that you can avoid it, it's not really a trap.

BORING. Preformed narratives always are. Yawn.

[RedTeamGo!]

Memphis was clearly not a trap team, they were just a good football team that beat an extremely overrated Ole Miss.

[jojo]

Memphis was clearly not a trap team, they were just a good football team that beat an extremely overrated Ole Miss.

There couldn't have been a bigger trap game scheduled.

[Assembly Hall]

There couldn't have been a bigger trap game scheduled.

Sure there could have...they could have played Jacksonville St. on the road!!!!!!

[jojo]

Sure there could have...they could have played Jacksonville St. on the road!!!!!!

Its the friendliest campus in the South.

[WVRed]

All the SEC teams seem to sprinkle their OOC games in during the season. Miss State played LA Tech this weekend. Vandy played MTSU last week. I know Kentucky still has Charlotte in a few weeks. And then, of course, there's the "rivalry weekend" after Turkey Day with Clemson/South Carolina, Florida/Florida State, Georgia/Ga Tech and Louisville/Kentucky.

I think that was an agreement between the SEC and ACC. I know Louisville fans weren't happy with the Governors Cup being the last game of the season.

[Boston Red]

I don't think Louisville fans are upset with that game being the last one of the season.

[RedTeamGo!]

There couldn't have been a bigger trap game scheduled.

Trap games are games that you don't take seriously because the opponent is clearly inferior.

Memphis was 5-0 and was showing they have a legit offense with a good QB.

If Freeze didn't take them seriously and failed to prepare his team that's a problem.

[cumberlandreds]

I think that was an agreement between the SEC and ACC. I know Louisville fans weren't happy with the Governors Cup being the last game of the season.

It was TeeVee thing to move that game to the end. They want that weekend to be an ACC/SEC rivalry event. UK fans don't like it for the most part and UL fans of course,do like it. I think it was better at the beginning because you had all summer to build for it. Now there is only one week of talk about it not the entire summer. Also if one team is out of the bowl running then there is very little interest

[Boston Red]

And I know UK could still be in a good position when the game occurs this year, but the more likely scenario is that both teams have pretty mediocre records and are just deciding what third or fourth tier bowl they're going to sneak into (for Louisville, they may need a win to go bowling at all).

[jojo]

Trap games are games that you don't take seriously because the opponent is clearly inferior.

Memphis was 5-0 and was showing they have a legit offense with a good QB.

If Freeze didn't take them seriously and failed to prepare his team that's a problem.

I'm pretty sure that Freeze took them seriously in the week prior but Freeze can't tackle. No one took this game seriously 4 weeks ago.

[WVRed]

I don't think Louisville fans are upset with that game being the last one of the season.

Maybe not now but last year I remember reading some comments. Louisville always wanted it first game of the season. It wasn't until the end of Brooks tenure that it got moved to the third or fourth game when it was at Commonwealth.

[Boston Red]

Maybe not now but last year I remember reading some comments. Louisville always wanted it first game of the season. It wasn't until the end of Brooks tenure that it got moved to the third or fourth game when it was at Commonwealth.

We definitely disliked the move from week 1 every year to alternating between week 1 and week 3. But the move to the end of the year has generally been well-received, I think.

Given the history of Louisville and Kentucky football, the last game of the year does have the potential for some stinkers (this year, for example). But since the series resumed one or the other team has typically been pretty good, although it's been pretty rare for both to be good at the same time.

[jojo]

Guess what? LSU-WKU is a trap game no matter how badly the poor prognosticating yet bawling blustercators want to bellow preformed narratives.

[Assembly Hall]

Guess what? LSU-WKU is a trap game no matter how badly the poor prognosticating yet bawling blustercators want to bellow preformed narratives.

LSU scheduled Western Kansas? LOL

[Boston Red]

Guess what? LSU-WKU is a trap game no matter how badly the poor prognosticating yet bawling blustercators want to bellow preformed narratives.

Western Kentucky isn't undefeated. It's not being played in Bowling Green. Agreed. It doesn't get LSU off the hook if they somehow lose, though.

I think LSU wins about 56-0 though. WKU is not very good.

[Sea Ray]

Western Kentucky isn't undefeated. It's not being played in Bowling Green. Agreed. It doesn't get LSU off the hook if they somehow lose, though.

I think LSU wins about 56-0 though. WKU is not very good.

I think the Hill Toppers will put some points on the Board. They won't stop the run which is why they'll get crushed but I'm thinking they'll score 20 pts or so

[Assembly Hall]

I think the Hill Toppers will put some points on the Board. They won't stop the run which is why they'll get crushed but I'm thinking they'll score 20 pts or so

From what I saw from WKU against IU they throw the ball around pretty dang good.

[Boston Red]

Vandy completely shut WKU down. I'm pretty sure LSU will manage to hold them in check as well.

Would love to be wrong though. Jeff Brohm was a hometown hero when I was growing up in Louisville.

[19braves77]

How do you lose to Arkansas ? Three flats for Gus. Looking like a Birmingham bowl date for them.

I wouldn't mind Cryus Jones gets demoted to 2nd string in everything he does. He makes about three mental errors a game.

[villain612]

How do you lose to Arkansas ? Three flats for Gus. Looking like a Birmingham bowl date for them.

I wouldn't mind Cryus Jones gets demoted to 2nd string in everything he does. He makes about three mental errors a game.

lol at Auburn's preseason ranking.

[Brutus]

Clearly, Arkansas was also a trap game.

[jojo]

How do you lose to Arkansas ? Three flats for Gus. Looking like a Birmingham bowl date for them.

I wouldn't mind Cryus Jones gets demoted to 2nd string in everything he does. He makes about three mental errors a game.

A bigger tell is losing to Ole Miss at home. Can't really do that and be considered a legit playoff team.

[jojo]

Clearly, Arkansas was also a trap game.

Arkansas was favored. Clearly, yet another proof that knowledge and understanding of NCAA football isn't your wheelhouse.

[dabvu2498]

Woohoo. I'm going to call it an SEC win... But Mizzou is turrible.

[jojo]

Woohoo. I'm going to call it an SEC win... But Mizzou is turrible.

Domination.

[Assembly Hall]

Woohoo. I'm going to call it an SEC win... But Mizzou is turrible.

Mizzou that bad huh?

[19braves77]

Hey Auburn do Alabama a favor and beat Ole Miss.

[jojo]

Hey Auburn do Alabama a favor and beat Ole Miss.

Hey Alabama. You had your chance. At home no less.

[Assembly Hall]

Hey Auburn do Alabama a favor and beat Ole Miss.

Sitting here listening to the talking heads on the tube. They talked about Auburn. Geez, they are in danger of not even making a bowl.

[RedTeamGo!]

Sitting here listening to the talking heads on the tube. They talked about Auburn. Geez, they are in danger of not even making a bowl.

And they were preseason ranked #6

Tells you all you need to know about preseason rankings.

[jojo]

Sitting here listening to the talking heads on the tube. They talked about Auburn. Geez, they are in danger of not even making a bowl.

They've lost a lot of talent since August and are very young. I think there are a lot of positives. Their underclassman are loaded and learning. I'm enjoying the season.

[Assembly Hall]

They've lost a lot of talent since August and are very young. I think there are a lot of positives. Their underclassman are loaded and learning. I'm enjoying the season.

I understand jojo. That's all you can do as fan and supporter. Still lots of ball to be played.

[Assembly Hall]

And they were preseason ranked #6

Tells you all you need to know about preseason rankings.

In fairness to all the grief the B1G fans give jojo and the SEC, it aint just his Auburn Tigers that have disappointed the early season prognosticators. I point the finger to the Pac 12. You to want to talk about some teams being over rated.

But yes, I think they should wait about a month after the season starts before a CFB poll comes out.

[Brutus]

Arkansas was favored. Clearly, yet another proof that knowledge and understanding of NCAA football isn't your wheelhouse.

I guess you don't get when someone is playfully being sarcastic eh? No need to resort to insults, but I understand who I'm dealing with.

[jojo]

I guess you don't get when someone is playfully being sarcastic eh? No need to resort to insults, but I understand who I'm dealing with.

The original comment was a beacon concerning who one deals with when dealing with the author of it. My response was actually kind in that it assumed a simple lack of knowledge and understanding about football given such an assumption is very consistent with the author's posting history rather than assuming what you have now clarified was a willful, mean-spirited, purposeful fart in the thread that served no purpose other than to make others smell the putrid odor.

Thanks for clarifying, at least.

[dabvu2498]

C'mon guys. Not again.

[cumberlandreds]

Mizzou that bad huh?

Might be. They have lost to the two traditional dregs of the SEC this season, Vandy and Kentucky. Although I think UK is slightly better than a dreg this season.

[Assembly Hall]

Might be. They have lost to the two traditional dregs of the SEC this season, Vandy and Kentucky. Although I think UK is slightly better than a dreg this season.

Didnt they just barely lose to Georgia by like 3 in a defensive battle? Gonna go look them up.

[Boston Red]

Didnt they just barely lose to Georgia by like 3 in a defensive battle? Gonna go look them up.

Yes, they lost to Georgia by the same 9-6 score that they beat UConn.

[Assembly Hall]

Yes, they lost to Georgia by the same 9-6 score that they beat UConn.

I looked it up. Appears that Mizzou must be pretty good on defense? And really lacking on offense?

[KronoRed]

I'm not sure Mizzy knows what offense is.

[dabvu2498]

Mizzou is perhaps the worst non-Vanderbilt SEC offense I've ever seen. I didn't watch much of their game with SC (if any) and I have no idea how they scored 24 points.

[Assembly Hall]

LOL.....so Mizzou is the opposite of IU!!!!!

[19braves77]

Pics for this week:

Ole Miss > Auburn
At least Auburn fans will have that nice shiny expensive scoreboard to watch all the scoring. At some point, Auburn has to upset somebody so I am hoping its this game.

South Carolina > Texas A&M
Something is going on with the Aggies

Florida > Georgia
I could see Florida scoring 50 points in this game.

Kentucky>Tennessee
Teams usually struggle after facing Alabama due to the physical nature of playing Bama. Your welcome Wildcats.

[goreds2]

Pics for this week:



Kentucky>Tennessee
Teams usually struggle after facing Alabama due to the physical nature of playing Bama. Your welcome Wildcats.

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[Sea Ray]

After week one:


As in North Carolina and Louisville are going to set the world on fire? I guess.

North Carolina is undefeated since that loss to South Carolina. Is that setting the world on fire? It's pretty close. Regardless, it sure looks like a good win now

[Tom Servo]

After week one:



North Carolina is undefeated since that loss to South Carolina. Is that setting the world on fire? It's pretty close. Regardless, it sure looks like a good win now
Losing to that bad South Carolina team still looks bad.

[Assembly Hall]

Losing to that bad South Carolina team still looks bad.

Not from a SEC perspective. Get with the program young man!!!!!!!

[RedTeamGo!]

After week one:



North Carolina is undefeated since that loss to South Carolina. Is that setting the world on fire? It's pretty close. Regardless, it sure looks like a good win now

You were also talking up the now 4-4 Arizona St.

[WVRed]

This game (UK -UT) is beyond embarrassing.

[Assembly Hall]

This game (UK -UT) is beyond embarrassing.

How so? I, for one, liked the outcome!!!!!! LOL

[WVRed]

How so? I, for one, liked the outcome!!!!!! LOL

I'm sure you did.

I actually went to bed at the end of the third quarter. Halfway expected Tennessee to hang 70 but that didn't happen.

Best statement that should be made is letting DJ Elliott go and Stoops assuming defensive play calling duties the rest of the season. If your background is defense as Stoops is, you don't get throttled like the last two games.

No excuses, Stoops recruited these players, let him finish the season with them and reevaluate it at the end..

[Assembly Hall]

I'm sure you did.

I actually went to bed at the end of the third quarter. Halfway expected Tennessee to hang 70 but that didn't happen.

Best statement that should be made is letting DJ Elliott go and Stoops assuming defensive play calling duties the rest of the season. If your background is defense as Stoops is, you don't get throttled like the last two games.

No excuses, Stoops recruited these players, let him finish the season with them and reevaluate it at the end..

Speed kills UK on the gridiron.

[jojo]

I'm sure you did.

I actually went to bed at the end of the third quarter. Halfway expected Tennessee to hang 70 but that didn't happen.

Best statement that should be made is letting DJ Elliott go and Stoops assuming defensive play calling duties the rest of the season. If your background is defense as Stoops is, you don't get throttled like the last two games.

No excuses, Stoops recruited these players, let him finish the season with them and reevaluate it at the end..

You guys have had some significant injuries on defense. Stoops just doesn't have the depth to overcome losing his better players.

[WVRed]

You guys have had some significant injuries on defense. Stoops just doesn't have the depth to overcome losing his better players.

Melvin Lewis I understand, but Stoops recruited Matt Elam who is a five star recruit. Same goes for Drew Barker on the offensive side of the ball.

Injuries happen, and so does ineffectiveness, in that case it should be next man up.

[jojo]

Melvin Lewis I understand, but Stoops recruited Matt Elam who is a five star recruit. Same goes for Drew Barker on the offensive side of the ball.

Injuries happen, and so does ineffectiveness, in that case it should be next man up.

Those guys you mentioned are underclassmen. The number of stars doesn't mean they don't have a lot of learning and growing to do.

[Assembly Hall]

Is it just me or does Florida have a legit shot at getting into the "play-offs". Dang I am starting to see them as the "dark horse" in the discussion.

[Sea Ray]

Pics for this week:


Kentucky>Tennessee
Teams usually struggle after facing Alabama due to the physical nature of playing Bama. Your welcome Wildcats.

OK, I abstained from responding to this yesterday 'cause I didn't want to come across as a homer, now that we have some facts to look at, here goes...

I get that Tennessee isn't the Vols of Peyton and Tee (Martin). I get that they choke in big games and all. But what is there that makes you think that they'd lose to Kentucky for crying out loud? They smashed KY last year. What has happened in one year's time that made you think that TN was now at KY's level? KY beats Tenn about once in every 30 yrs. They're not due for another win for another 10-15 yrs. Why does Tenn still lack for "respect"? OK, they're not yet ready to make the jump to Alabama's "league" but they sure ain't in Kentucky's either

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If it were only that easy to beat UT...

[Sea Ray]

This game (UK -UT) is beyond embarrassing.

For who?

[Sea Ray]

Speed kills UK on the gridiron.

The embarrassing thing in all of this is that some folks actually expected UK to be able to play with UT. If you really know anything about the two teams, one would know better

[Sea Ray]

Those guys you mentioned are underclassmen. The number of stars doesn't mean they don't have a lot of learning and growing to do.

I'm sure UK doesn't play more underclassmen than UT. That excuse doesn't fly in this game

[Sea Ray]

You were also talking up the now 4-4 Arizona St.

And you were talking up the PAC12 as being the best college football conference this year. If that's the case then you'd look pretty silly denigrating a 4-4 team there

[Assembly Hall]

Calm down SR. We put a big knot on their head during football season....let's see what kind of arsz whopping they give us on the hardwood.

[19braves77]

A very honest assessment of the Gus Bus and Auburn football:

If you set your clock back one year, Auburn has lost its last game against every team in the SEC West division. Throw in a 2014 defeat at Georgia and this year's win at Kentucky, and the Tigers have dropped seven of their last eight conference games overall. Yet, Auburn fans think Gus is great.

If your looking for things to get better:

Rivals recruiting rankings shows Auburn currently ranked # 41.

That's hard to explain when you have excellent recruiters like Craig, Thompson, and Garner.

[jojo]

A very honest assessment of the Gus Bus and Auburn football:

If you set your clock back one year, Auburn has lost its last game against every team in the SEC West division. Throw in a 2014 defeat at Georgia and this year's win at Kentucky, and the Tigers have dropped seven of their last eight conference games overall. Yet, Auburn fans think Gus is great.

If your looking for things to get better:

Rivals recruiting rankings shows Auburn currently ranked # 41.

That's hard to explain when you have excellent recruiters like Craig, Thompson, and Garner.

It's November dude. But very glad to hear a Gump homer hates Gus.

[dabvu2498]

Is it just me or does Florida have a legit shot at getting into the "play-offs". Dang I am starting to see them as the "dark horse" in the discussion.

They do. Particularly if they get a rematch with LSU in the SECCG.

[Sea Ray]

Calm down SR. We put a big knot on their head during football season....let's see what kind of arsz whopping they give us on the hardwood.

Nobody is going to be predicting a UT win on the hardwood. That's the difference

[Assembly Hall]

Nobody is going to be predicting a UT win on the hardwood. That's the difference

I will!!!!!!!!!!!

[WVRed]

The embarrassing thing in all of this is that some folks actually expected UK to be able to play with UT. If you really know anything about the two teams, one would know better

I wasn't expecting Kentucky to win, but definitely wasn't expecting them to lay down at home either.

Right now I'm just hoping they can beat Charlotte and Vanderbilt just to get to a bowl game. Next seasons schedule doesn't look very promising to return to one.

[Chip R]

Maty Mauk has been suspended for the rest of the season.

[Assembly Hall]

They do. Particularly if they get a rematch with LSU in the SECCG.

Is my math right? If the Gators win the next game they clinch the East?

[19braves77]

Yes.

My Top 4 is Alabama, Clemson, Florida, and TCU.

[Tom Servo]

Yes.

My Top 4 is Alabama, Clemson, Florida, and TCU.
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[dabvu2498]

Maty Mauk has been suspended for the rest of the season.

Sadly, it seems like something broke there.

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You forgot to highlight Florida.

[Assembly Hall]

Yes.

My Top 4 is Alabama, Clemson, Florida, and TCU.

Mine would be Ohio St., TCU, Clemson, and Stanford.

[kaldaniels]

Yes.

My Top 4 is Alabama, Clemson, Florida, and TCU.

I expect Alabama to be in it at the end of the year...but now? One victory over a power conference team with less than 4 losses? When you've lost a game already at this point that doesn't cut it for the Top-4 for me.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yes.

My Top 4 is Alabama, Clemson, Florida, and TCU.

Alabama? Why? Didn't LSU beat Florida and is undefeated?

[villain612]

I expect Alabama to be in it at the end of the year...but now? One victory over a power conference team with less than 4 losses? When you've lost a game already at this point that doesn't cut it for the Top-4 for me.

This.

Maybe Bama gets there after the LSU game and they win out the rest of the schedule but putting them there now is kind of ridiculous.

[Assembly Hall]

To me, concerning Bama, is can they make it to the play-offs without appearing in the SEC championship?

[jojo]

To me, concerning Bama, is can they make it to the play-offs without appearing in the SEC championship?

No.

[RedTeamGo!]

No.

Didn't Alabama win a national championship a few years ago without appearing in the sec championship?

[jojo]

Didn't Alabama win a national championship a few years ago without appearing in the sec championship?

The funny thing about life is that it's constantly changing.

[Assembly Hall]

No.

Well, I looked at the rankings and Bama is sitting there at 7th. Bama could win out move up and still not make the SEC championship game. They need help but I can see them doing it.

[cumberlandreds]

I wasn't expecting Kentucky to win, but definitely wasn't expecting them to lay down at home either.

Right now I'm just hoping they can beat Charlotte and Vanderbilt just to get to a bowl game. Next seasons schedule doesn't look very promising to return to one.

Same old Kentucky. I don't think they will ever be much better than a six win team. This is two years in a row they have regressed as the season went along. That's very telling for this coaching staff. Right now I would say they will only beat Charlotte. Vandy is better this year and its a road game. UL has too much speed for them and will probably put up 40 or more points. As for next seasons schedule as of now I only see four or five wins in that. Basically the same old, same old for Kentucky football.

[KronoRed]

Didn't Alabama win a national championship a few years ago without appearing in the sec championship?

The playoffs exists due to that happening, it will never happen again.

[Assembly Hall]

The playoffs exists due to that happening, it will never happen again.

I wouldnt be too sure of that. It very well could happen this year.

[KronoRed]

I wouldnt be too sure of that. It very well could happen this year.

It would take a collapse from 5-10 teams.

[WVRed]

Same old Kentucky. I don't think they will ever be much better than a six win team. This is two years in a row they have regressed as the season went along. That's very telling for this coaching staff. Right now I would say they will only beat Charlotte. Vandy is better this year and its a road game. UL has too much speed for them and will probably put up 40 or more points. As for next seasons schedule as of now I only see four or five wins in that. Basically the same old, same old for Kentucky football.

Haven't seen Vandy much this year but I know they beat Missouri, who by all accounts seems to have fallen off a cliff. I think that's the defining game to the season though.

The biggest problem right now is I believe Stoops is starting to lose the fanbase. Basketball season is about to start and momentum for football is at rock bottom. If Kentucky doesn't make it to a bowl game, combined with next seasons schedule, Stoops could be a lame duck coach with eroding fan support similar to Joker.

[IslandRed]

It's unlikely, sure, but it's not that hard to paint the picture where it could happen. It would take Bama and Ole Miss both running the table (which puts LSU at two losses) and then UF losing somewhere along the way or even in the SECCG. That would leave Ole Miss as the SEC West champ but Bama as the only one-loss SEC team standing, and likely at or near the top in pretty much every statistical model. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I have a hard time seeing Alabama slotted behind other one-loss teams if it means the SEC is left out of the playoff entirely. (In this scenario, neither the SEC nor Pac-12 would have an unbeaten team, so the only way the committee could fill all four spots with unbeatens is if Memphis or another non-Power-5 team gets a spot.)

[Sea Ray]

I'm likin' Tennessee's schedule next year:

Sep. 03 2016 App. St. Mountaineers, Knoxville TN
Sep. 10 2016 Virginia Tech Hokies.Bristol, TN
Sep. 17 2016 Ohio Bobcats, Knoxville, TN
Sep. 24 2016 Florida Gators, Knoxville, TN
Oct. 01 2016 Georgia Bulldogs, Athens, GA y
Oct. 08 2016 Texas A&M Aggies, College Station, TX
Oct. 15 2016 Alabama Crimson Tide, Knoxville, TN
Oct. 29 2016 South Carolina Gamecocks, Columbia, SC
Nov. 05 2016 Tenn. Tech Golden Eagles, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 12 2016 Kentucky Wildcats, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 19 2016 Missouri Tigers, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 26 2016 Vanderbilt Commodores, Nashville, TN

Still not as easy as some Big Ten teams (like Iowa this yr) but this will be much easier to navigate than 2015 was for the Vols. Only 3 games outside of the state.

[Revering4Blue]

I'm likin' Tennessee's schedule next year:

Sep. 03 2016 App. St. Mountaineers, Knoxville TN
Sep. 10 2016 Virginia Tech Hokies.Bristol, TN
Sep. 17 2016 Ohio Bobcats, Knoxville, TN
Sep. 24 2016 Florida Gators, Knoxville, TN
Oct. 01 2016 Georgia Bulldogs, Athens, GA y
Oct. 08 2016 Texas A&M Aggies, College Station, TX
Oct. 15 2016 Alabama Crimson Tide, Knoxville, TN
Oct. 29 2016 South Carolina Gamecocks, Columbia, SC
Nov. 05 2016 Tenn. Tech Golden Eagles, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 12 2016 Kentucky Wildcats, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 19 2016 Missouri Tigers, Knoxville, TN
Nov. 26 2016 Vanderbilt Commodores, Nashville, TN

Still not as easy as some Big Ten teams (like Iowa this yr) but this will be much easier to navigate than 2015 was for the Vols. Only 3 games outside of the state.

Plus, a neutral field game in Bristol against a team transitioning to a new coach, something which is also happening in Columbia, SC. And, regardless of what he's stated recently, who knows whether or not Richt will be back at Georgia next season - I don't think he'll be fired, he may just chose to leave on his own accord - so they, too, may be in transition. Who knows what to think about A&M; they've been iffy since Manziel left. Is the bloom coming of the rose for Sumlin?

[dabvu2498]

Haven't seen Vandy much this year but I know they beat Missouri, who by all accounts seems to have fallen off a cliff. I think that's the defining game to the season though.

The biggest problem right now is I believe Stoops is starting to lose the fanbase. Basketball season is about to start and momentum for football is at rock bottom. If Kentucky doesn't make it to a bowl game, combined with next seasons schedule, Stoops could be a lame duck coach with eroding fan support similar to Joker.

Vandy won't beat anybody decent because they can't score. Their defense is fair, but they're on the field too much and lack of depth is showing.

[dabvu2498]

It's unlikely, sure, but it's not that hard to paint the picture where it could happen. It would take Bama and Ole Miss both running the table (which puts LSU at two losses) and then UF losing somewhere along the way or even in the SECCG. That would leave Ole Miss as the SEC West champ but Bama as the only one-loss SEC team standing, and likely at or near the top in pretty much every statistical model. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I have a hard time seeing Alabama slotted behind other one-loss teams if it means the SEC is left out of the playoff entirely. (In this scenario, neither the SEC nor Pac-12 would have an unbeaten team, so the only way the committee could fill all four spots with unbeatens is if Memphis or another non-Power-5 team gets a spot.)

Would a 12-1 Utah or Stanford get in over an 11-1 Alabama? I'd say so.

[Assembly Hall]

It's unlikely, sure, but it's not that hard to paint the picture where it could happen. It would take Bama and Ole Miss both running the table (which puts LSU at two losses) and then UF losing somewhere along the way or even in the SECCG. That would leave Ole Miss as the SEC West champ but Bama as the only one-loss SEC team standing, and likely at or near the top in pretty much every statistical model. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I have a hard time seeing Alabama slotted behind other one-loss teams if it means the SEC is left out of the playoff entirely. (In this scenario, neither the SEC nor Pac-12 would have an unbeaten team, so the only way the committee could fill all four spots with unbeatens is if Memphis or another non-Power-5 team gets a spot.)

Yep, I agree. Lots of possibilities here working. Things have to play out for sure. I think Michigan St. and Iowa are in the same boat as Bama.

[Assembly Hall]

Would a 12-1 Utah or Stanford get in over an 11-1 Alabama? I'd say so.

No to Utah, but I think Stanford would.

[19braves77]

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[19braves77]

Folks, it is very simple to me about our position for the playoffs.

I'm a firm believer in the idea that conference championships should be a consideration but not an outright discriminator. We've had plenty of 1-seeds in the NCAA Tourney who fell short in their conference tournament. Its a bigger field, sure, but they look at body of work when deciding the top seeds in the bracket. The idea that LSU and Alabama could just be outright shafted despite a body of work (if either finished 11-1 with a loss to Ole Miss) would be been like dropping 2012 Kentucky b-ball to a 4 seed because they lost the conference tourney championship game to a quality Vandy squad.

I'm not saying that Alabama or LSU in that scenario should just be penciled into a seed in the CFP but it is ridiculous that the conjecture is basically that they're screwed if they don't play an extra game that some conferences in the "power structure" don't even have.

[Assembly Hall]

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I am soooooo laughing my freakin' arsz off!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one.

[jojo]

I am soooooo laughing my freakin' arsz off!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one.


Actually its pretty weak sauce. Funny is a Gump arguing that it doesn't matter whether bama wins it's conference or not.

[Assembly Hall]

Actually its pretty weak sauce. Funny is a Gump arguing that it doesn't matter whether bama wins it's conference or not.

I expected nothing less from you. Glad you didnt let me down!!!!!!!!

[Assembly Hall]

Folks, it is very simple to me about our position for the playoffs.

I'm a firm believer in the idea that conference championships should be a consideration but not an outright discriminator. We've had plenty of 1-seeds in the NCAA Tourney who fell short in their conference tournament. Its a bigger field, sure, but they look at body of work when deciding the top seeds in the bracket. The idea that LSU and Alabama could just be outright shafted despite a body of work (if either finished 11-1 with a loss to Ole Miss) would be been like dropping 2012 Kentucky b-ball to a 4 seed because they lost the conference tourney championship game to a quality Vandy squad.

I'm not saying that Alabama or LSU in that scenario should just be penciled into a seed in the CFP but it is ridiculous that the conjecture is basically that they're screwed if they don't play an extra game that some conferences in the "power structure" don't even have.

A bigger field? 68 vs. 4? Wow, I never made the connection. Body of work? You can be a firm believer how ever you want to be. But this is really how it works:

1) preseason rankings

2) the conference you play in

3) going undefeated

4) and "style" points

Pretty simple to me, but that is my opinion.

[villain612]

I think the way it is with the committee now is perfect. Conference championships will be considered but not automatic either way. 4 teams is perfect IMO.

[IslandRed]

Would a 12-1 Utah or Stanford get in over an 11-1 Alabama? I'd say so.


No to Utah, but I think Stanford would.

That's a really good question. The Pac-12 is kind of flaky so I usually don't presume best-case scenario for those teams. :cool:

At the end of the regular season, when they're all 11-1, Alabama would probably have the edge. My guess is, they'll be slightly ahead in the initial committee rankings, and beating LSU would push them significantly ahead. Stanford has the opportunity later to knock off Notre Dame and close the gap. Utah's best remaining opponent is UCLA. Would a conference championship game victory leapfrog either over Alabama? I guess that depends on who they beat in that game and how they looked doing it. The best scenario is for both to win out and to play each other in the conference championship. It would set up the perception of "win and you're in."

[Sea Ray]

The committee has as one of its standards "conference championship". I highly doubt a #2 team in a conference would make it so long as we only have a 4 team playoff

[Assembly Hall]

The committee has as one of its standards "conference championship". I highly doubt a #2 team in a conference would make it so long as we only have a 4 team playoff

But what does a conference championship really mean? Look at Iowa. They didnt draw tOSU, Sparty, or Michigan in the regular season.

[Sea Ray]

But what does a conference championship really mean? Look at Iowa. They didnt draw tOSU, Sparty, or Michigan in the regular season.

Iowa is an interesting example of a lot of things. To answer your question, Iowa will get their chance vs one of those 3 teams before the committee decides and if they win then they should be considered for a spot in the playoff before any other Big Ten team.

But Iowa is also an example of the huge holes in the Big Ten. How can a team from a power conference go through the entire regular season and never face a ranked team? Well, that can happen if you're in the Big Ten. If that can happen, what does that say about your "power conference"? What it says ain't too good.

That said, does anyone think Indiana can upset them this weekend?

[Assembly Hall]

Iowa is an interesting example of a lot of things. To answer your question, Iowa will get their chance vs one of those 3 teams before the committee decides and if they win then they should be considered for a spot in the playoff before any other Big Ten team.

But Iowa is also an example of the huge holes in the Big Ten. How can a team from a power conference go through the entire regular season and never face a ranked team? Well, that can happen if you're in the Big Ten. If that can happen, what does that say about your "power conference"? What it says ain't too good.

That said, does anyone think Indiana can upset them this weekend?

I do believe Northwestern was ranked when the Hawks spanked them in their own yard. And I aint too sure that Wiscy wasnt ranked as well when Iowa beat them in "Cheeseville". Iowa also beat a Pitt team that was ranked at one time.

There isnt any holes in the B1G. Last time I checked they had the reigning national champion that is currently ranked #1.

As far as IU...they can beat anybody with their offense. They will take the Hawks down if their defense can come up with about 4 takeaways.

[jojo]

Sagarin thinks Iowa (SOS ranked 47th) has a tough road to hoe compared to ohio state (SOS ranked 68th). Literally, ohio state's season is one long preseason yawner.

[Assembly Hall]

Sagarin thinks Iowa (SOS ranked 47th) has a tough road to hoe compared to ohio state (SOS ranked 68th). Literally, ohio state's season is one long preseason yawner.

Just like Auburn's only better yawning!!!!!!!

[Sea Ray]

I do believe Northwestern was ranked when the Hawks spanked them in their own yard. And I aint too sure that Wiscy wasnt ranked as well when Iowa beat them in "Cheeseville". Iowa also beat a Pitt team that was ranked at one time.

There isnt any holes in the B1G. Last time I checked they had the reigning national champion that is currently ranked #1.

As far as IU...they can beat anybody with their offense. They will take the Hawks down if their defense can come up with about 4 takeaways.

Just because a conference has the #1 team in the nation doesn't make mean the conference is w/o holes. It could very well mean it's top heavy.

As a college football fan, how many games involving Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska and Rutgers do you want to watch? Arguably Iowa/Indiana is the top Big Ten game this week. Mich/Minn was the best the conference could muster last week. That's sad.

[Sea Ray]

Just like Auburn's only better yawning!!!!!!!

What are you talking about? Auburn's strength of schedule from that same source is 13th...yes Auburn's schedule IS indeed much better
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Tennessee's schedule is #3. Texas' is #1

[jojo]

Just like Auburn's only better yawning!!!!!!!

Do you even watch football? Auburn has had an exciting season and certainly no one could argue it's just been an extension of their spring scrimmage.

[Boston Red]

I've seen plenty of bad football in all the major conferences this year.

[Assembly Hall]

Just because a conference has the #1 team in the nation doesn't make mean the conference is w/o holes. It could very well mean it's top heavy.

As a college football fan, how many games involving Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska and Rutgers do you want to watch? Arguably Iowa/Indiana is the top Big Ten game this week. Mich/Minn was the best the conference could muster last week. That's sad.

Take off your orange glasses off for just a minute. And those SEC ones as well. How well do you know B1G football? How many games must I endure watching UK, Vandy, Mizzou, South Carolina, and Auburn?

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Do you even watch football? Auburn has had an exciting season and certainly no one could argue it's just been an extension of their spring scrimmage.

No, not at all.....I am more of a semantics guy.

[jojo]

Take off your orange glasses off for just a minute. And those SEC ones as well. How well do you know B1G football? How many games must I endure watching UK, Vandy, Mizzou, South Carolina, and Auburn?

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There is no way you could argue semantics on this one either from a SOS or a compelling game standpoint.

No, not at all.....I am more of a semantics guy.

There is no way you could argue semantics on this one either from a SOS or a compelling game standpoint. Sorry but your comment was just simply, off base entirely.

[Sea Ray]

I've seen plenty of bad football in all the major conferences this year.

Sure but that's not the issue. There are bad football teams in every conference. But as a football fan, you pick out games you want to see and the Big Ten has had very few of them. I've not been interested in any of Ohio State's or Iowa's so far and they're both undefeated. I was very interested in Mich/MSU and I'll be interested in either school when they play OSU but that's pretty much it. This week I'll check in on Ind/Ia but unless if Iowa wins it'll not be a story

[Sea Ray]

Take off your orange glasses off for just a minute. And those SEC ones as well. How well do you know B1G football? How many games must I endure watching UK, Vandy, Mizzou, South Carolina, and Auburn?

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No, not at all.....I am more of a semantics guy.

Every team has bad teams. I feel like I'm having to repeat that for everyone here.

This week there's Alabama-LSU. Any game in the Big Ten that you'd prefer to watch? How bout last week or next week? Are there any compelling Big Ten games? That's 3 weeks in a row of no games between ranked opponents.

[Assembly Hall]

There is no way you could argue semantics on this one either from a SOS or a compelling game standpoint. Sorry but your comment was just simply, off base entirely.

I am sorry jojo, I guess I got you confused with the other jojo that uses big words in his sentences. My bad.

[Assembly Hall]

Every team has bad teams. I feel like I'm having to repeat that for everyone here.

This week there's Alabama-LSU. Any game in the Big Ten that you'd prefer to watch? How bout last week or next week? Are there any compelling Big Ten games? That's 3 weeks in a row of no games between ranked opponents.

Yeah, so? Last I checked the B1G had 3 undefeated teams. What's the point?

[jojo]

I am sorry jojo, I guess I got you confused with the other jojo that uses big words in his sentences. My bad.

You're not confused. You just said a very silly thing and apparently are having trouble dealing with having it pointed out.

[Assembly Hall]

You're not confused. You just said a very silly thing and apparently are having trouble dealing with having it pointed out.

Go Auburn!!!!!!! Now that would be a silly thing for me to say!!!!!!!!

[villain612]

Just because a conference has the #1 team in the nation doesn't make mean the conference is w/o holes. It could very well mean it's top heavy.

As a college football fan, how many games involving Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Nebraska and Rutgers do you want to watch? Arguably Iowa/Indiana is the top Big Ten game this week. Mich/Minn was the best the conference could muster last week. That's sad.

The SEC has a lot of big time, marquee matchups especially early in the season because most of time, they have at least 2 or 3 overhyped teams in the preseason polls.

Yes, they're still the toughest conference overall, but it isn't as wide of a gap as it was 4 years ago.

[Sea Ray]

Yeah, so? Last I checked the B1G had 3 undefeated teams. What's the point?

The point is the lack of compelling games due to an abundance of poor teams. The fact that there are 3 undefeated teams supports that point. When they play each other that'll be great but what about the rest of the season?

[Sea Ray]

The SEC has a lot of big time, marquee matchups especially early in the season because most of time, they have at least 2 or 3 overhyped teams in the preseason polls.

Yes, they're still the toughest conference overall, but it isn't as wide of a gap as it was 4 years ago.

I agree that the SEC isn't what it was a few yrs ago but that's not surprising. Maintaining that sort of dominance can't be expected.

I'm looking at this from a fan's perspective. I see compelling games in the PAC12 and SEC most every week; the Big Ten and ACC? Not so much.

[gonelong]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you want a compelling game to watch then it appears you either tune in to see Alabama, tOSU, or both. 12 of the top 25 highest viewership games in 2015 has involved one of them.



Rtg. Vwrs.
6 10.585M Ohio State Virginia Tech
4.6 7.605M Mississippi Alabama
4.3 6.965M Tennessee Alabama
4.3 7.298M OSU/IND or TTU/BAY
4.3 7.967M Wisconsin Alabama
4.2 7.045M Alabama Georgia
3.6 5.761M Alabama Texas A&M
3.3 5.867M Penn St. Ohio St.
3.3 5.254M NIU/OSU (78%) or NEB/MIA (22%)
3.0 5.290M Ohio St. Rutgers
2.9 4.835M Arkansas Alabama
2.4 3.721M WMU/OSU or ECU/VT


Here are the rest of the T25:



4.8 7.898M Oregon Michigan St.
4.8 4.493M Oregon State Michigan
4.5 7.398M Michigan St. Michigan
4.5 7.647M Notre Dame Clemson
3.9 6.777M Florida LSU
3.7 5.744M Notre Dame Virginia
3.3 4.992M Texas Oklahoma
3.1 4.869M IND/MSU or TTU/OU
3.0 4.884M Georgia Tennessee
2.9 4.641M Tennessee Florida
2.6 4.228M Auburn LSU
2.5 3.958M USC Notre Dame
2.4 3.700M Georgia Tech Notre Dame


Notre Dame, Mich St, Michigan, LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma ... its almost like the most compelling games are those with big fan bases, a good deal of history/tradition, and some level of recent success.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

GL

[Tom Servo]

I'm sure looking forward to LSU/Bama this week. Roll damn Tigers.

[Sea Ray]

Phil Steele's power ratings have Tennessee rated as the #2 SEC football team:

https://philsteele.com/fbsinfo/2015/15powerratings.html

[19braves77]

Roll Tide

Dont worry Baylor, we are going to help you this Saturday.

http://firenicksaban.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/saban_derp.png

[Assembly Hall]

Phil Steele's power ratings have Tennessee rated as the #2 SEC football team:

https://philsteele.com/fbsinfo/2015/15powerratings.html

That's just great. Too bad they wont be playing for a championship.........of any kind.

[RedTeamGo!]

Does anyone know why Alabama is ranked top 4?

Ridiculous. Go LSU.

[villain612]

The committee got it right except for Bama. What the hell lol. I would've put Michigan State at 4 over them.

[RedTeamGo!]

The committee got it right except for Bama. What the hell lol. I would've put Michigan State at 4 over them.

I would have put Baylor, TCU, and MSU in top 4 over them.

Playoff rankings are meaningless right now.

OSU was ranked 16th at this point last year. Auburn, Miss St, and Ole Miss were in the top 4.

Here's an image of what it looked like:

9999

[Boston Red]

Roll Tide

Dont worry Baylor, we are going to help you this Saturday.

http://firenicksaban.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/saban_derp.png

One way or another, this is a 100% certainty.

[kaldaniels]

Does anyone know why Alabama is ranked top 4?

Ridiculous. Go LSU.

I think the committee has a "let's be ahead of the curve" mentality. That's all I can come up with.

[19braves77]

Alabama is a strong brand. It's apparent that the committee understands which league is the toughest league. That's encouraging, despite the moronic media's inability to get it.

Look at Vegas: You can place a bet now on Alabama vs Clemson and Alabama is a 1.5 point favorite.

The people who know, know.

The LSU boards are in meltdown over Bama being in the top 4. They should understand it benefits them whether they win or lose Saturday. A close loss to #4 Bama might even give them a small chance to be in the final 4 with losses in other key games.

[Revering4Blue]

Alabama is a strong brand. It's apparent that the committee understands which league is the toughest league. That's encouraging, despite the moronic media's inability to get it.

Look at Vegas: You can place a bet now on Alabama vs Clemson and Alabama is a 1.5 point favorite.

The people who know, know.

The LSU boards are in meltdown over Bama being in the top 4. They should understand it benefits them whether they win or lose Saturday. A close loss to #4 Bama might even give them a small chance to be in the final 4 with losses in other key games.

The same moronic media that constantly bangs the SEC drum?

[villain612]

I would have put Baylor, TCU, and MSU in top 4 over them.

Playoff rankings are meaningless right now.



I totally agree. I am of the opinion that they shouldn't even be releasing them right now.

But just on a pure argumentative level, Michigan State is undefeated and has a better win than Alabama, Baylor, or TCU.

In the end, it doesn't matter. But still.

[RedTeamGo!]

Alabama is a strong brand. It's apparent that the committee understands which league is the toughest league. That's encouraging, despite the moronic media's inability to get it.

Look at Vegas: You can place a bet now on Alabama vs Clemson and Alabama is a 1.5 point favorite.

The people who know, know.

The LSU boards are in meltdown over Bama being in the top 4. They should understand it benefits them whether they win or lose Saturday. A close loss to #4 Bama might even give them a small chance to be in the final 4 with losses in other key games.

It could also be because they know Bama and LSU are playing this weekend and want extra hype for the game with the knowledge the winner will stay in top 4 and loser will fall out.

Bama was clearly the #1 team going into the playoff last year, too!

[Brutus]

Phil Steele's power ratings have Tennessee rated as the #2 SEC football team:

https://philsteele.com/fbsinfo/2015/15powerratings.html

That's not an outcome most power ratings share. Ken Massey's power rating matrix has Tennessee behind:

Alabama
LSU
Florida
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Texas A&M

7th in the SEC

Massey's matrix takes an aggregate of dozens of power ratings and averages their ranks.

[Brutus]

Is the goal to place the four best teams in the playoff? If yes, which I believe should be the goal, then I think the inclusion of Alabama makes total sense.

They are, IMHO, better than MSU, Baylor, TCU or Notre Dame. While there is probably some sort of point where I'll concede profile has to become a larger part of the equation than theoretical strength, I don't believe that point occurs at one loss -- especially when the other teams have either looked very mediocre or haven't beat anyone of note in their own right.

[cumberlandreds]

Does anyone know why Alabama is ranked top 4?

Ridiculous. Go LSU.

Alabama's SOS is third in the nation. Its apparent the committee put a strong emphasis on SOS. Baylor is 109. That's stupid scheduling on their part. But they can make it up in conference play. But for all of the hand ringing about the SEC one of those teams will drop out of the top four after this week. There will be many, many changes in the poll over the next month too. Lots and lots of football left to played. So no one should get that hung up on the first release for these rankings.

[Assembly Hall]

Alabama's SOS is third in the nation. Its apparent the committee put a strong emphasis on SOS. Baylor is 109. That's stupid scheduling on their part. But they can make it up in conference play. But for all of the hand ringing about the SEC one of those teams will drop out of the top four after this week. There will be many, many changes in the poll over the next month too. Lots and lots of football left to played. So no one should get that hung up on the first release for these rankings.

And just who has Alabama played to get that third in the SOS? Must be Wisconsin that got them that high?

[jojo]

And just who has Alabama played to get that third in the SOS? Must be Wisconsin that got them that high?

Ummm, you can google the schedule pretty easily. Sagarin ranks theirs top 5 in strength relative to other teams. The mystery is where?

[RedTeamGo!]

Ummm, you can google the schedule pretty easily. Sagarin ranks theirs top 5 in strength relative to other teams. The mystery is where?

I think they have had a tough schedule, but they have a loss. I don't see why Baylor, TCU, or MSU is not ranked over them. I also don't see why ND is not ranked over them, their loss was to the number 1 team in the country on the road and they nearly won.

After this weekend it won't matter, so whatevs.

[cumberlandreds]

And just who has Alabama played to get that third in the SOS? Must be Wisconsin that got them that high?

I suppose. I'm not an Alabama fan so I don't know who else they played.

The committee has set themselves up for a tricky situation. If Ole Miss wins out they are in the SEC championship game. Ole Miss won't be in the playoffs, most likely, even if they win out. So they could have Alabama in the playoffs and not even in their own conference championship game. They are going to be asked a lot of questions about that and rightfully so.

[villain612]

Ummm, you can google the schedule pretty easily. Sagarin ranks theirs top 5 in strength relative to other teams. The mystery is where?

Is Sagarin the definitive answer on this? I mean, there's more than one source to rank SoS. I haven't looked them all up, so I have no idea where Bama's stands.

I just know that Sagarin also thinks the SEC East is better than the Big Ten East, which is nuts.

[RedTeamGo!]

I suppose. I'm not an Alabama fan so I don't know who else they played.

The committee has set themselves up for a tricky situation. If Ole Miss wins out they are in the SEC championship game. Ole Miss won't be in the playoffs, most likely, even if they win out. So they could have Alabama in the playoffs and not even in their own conference championship game. They are going to be asked a lot of questions about that and rightfully so.

If Ole Miss wins out, wins the sec championship, and Memphis goes undefeated, how can the committee leave Memphis out of the playoff? If that scenario were to happen it would show the playoff as a failed system IMO.

[Sea Ray]

That's not an outcome most power ratings share. Ken Massey's power rating matrix has Tennessee behind:

Alabama
LSU
Florida
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Texas A&M

7th in the SEC

Massey's matrix takes an aggregate of dozens of power ratings and averages their ranks.

I think it's nuts to put Tennessee at #2

[cumberlandreds]

If Ole Miss wins out, wins the sec championship, and Memphis goes undefeated, how can the committee leave Memphis out of the playoff? If that scenario were to happen it would show the playoff as a failed system IMO.

They probably will be left out just because they aren't power five school. That's the reason I think very shortly we will see an 8 team playoff. The power five conferences get an automatic bid with three wild cards for a school like Memphis.

[jojo]

I think the playoffs need to be expanded to 8 teams but the downside is that would decrease the motivation for the power five teams to schedule trap games like memphis or good out of conference games against what many would consider traditionally good programs.

[Assembly Hall]

I suppose. I'm not an Alabama fan so I don't know who else they played.

The committee has set themselves up for a tricky situation. If Ole Miss wins out they are in the SEC championship game. Ole Miss won't be in the playoffs, most likely, even if they win out. So they could have Alabama in the playoffs and not even in their own conference championship game. They are going to be asked a lot of questions about that and rightfully so.

Not a fan of Bama either. But that SOS argument is total BS in my mind when it comes to CFB. The conference schedule is what it is. Bama is hanging their hat on the vaunted SEC.

[Assembly Hall]

I think the playoffs need to be expanded to 8 teams but the downside is that would decrease the motivation for the power five teams to schedule trap games like memphis or good out of conference games against what many would consider traditionally good programs.

This is what I see anymore. I see 4 of the "power 5" conferences that have a totally unbalanced schedule. I see the SEC West and the B1G East chewing each other up based on who they got to play. I would like to see it expanded to 8, but I am content with the current format. But dang it, I want to see major OOC games. I give Bama credit for playing Wiscy. Loved Utah against Michigan. Stanford against Northwestern. I want to see these conferences play other conferences. No more Louisiana-Monroe, no more Western Michigan, no more Wofford.

[villain612]

I give Alabama credit for playing a decent Wisconsin team that will probably end up with 9 or 10 wins and in the top 25.

But it's fair to say that their wins over Georgia and Texas A&M have been overhyped because of those teams' flawed positioning in preseason polls. When they played Georgia, they were ranked #8 in the AP. Now GA is unranked and isn't even getting votes in the AP poll.

[Boston Red]

No more Louisiana-Monroe, no more Western Michigan, no more Wofford.

OK with eliminating Wofford (and all FCS opponents), but I wouldn't go THIS far. ULM was pretty good a couple of years back (2012). Won at Arkansas, took Auburn to OT and lost by 5 to Baylor. These guys can have some squads, too.

[Assembly Hall]

OK with eliminating Wofford (and all FCS opponents), but I wouldn't go THIS far. ULM was pretty good a couple of years back (2012). Won at Arkansas, took Auburn to OT and lost by 5 to Baylor. These guys can have some squads, too.

Check out Clemson's schedule.

[kaldaniels]

Sagarin has USC #7, ND #8, and Stanford #10.

USC has 3 losses.
ND and Stanford have 1 loss.

ND and Stanford both beat USC.

I can't get past stuff like that.

[Assembly Hall]

Sagarin has USC #7, ND #8, and Stanford #10.

USC has 3 losses.
ND and Stanford have 1 loss.

ND and Stanford both beat USC.

I can't get past stuff like that.

I cant either...it boggles my mind. Hell, USC got man handled twice at home.

[Boston Red]

Check out Clemson's schedule.

What about it? I think it's a pretty reasonable non-conference slate. Wofford is a patsy. Fine. App State is a good, solid team. Notre Dame is, well, Notre Dame. And South Carolina sucks this year, but that's not exactly Clemson's fault.

[RedTeamGo!]

What about it? I think it's a pretty reasonable non-conference slate. Wofford is a patsy. Fine. App State is a good, solid team. Notre Dame is, well, Notre Dame. And South Carolina sucks this year, but that's not exactly Clemson's fault.

App st is a good solid team - for fcs.

I'm fine with their ooc schedule, though.

[Boston Red]

App State isn't FCS.

[RedTeamGo!]

App State isn't FCS.

Oh, wow, when did they go to division 1?

[Boston Red]

Oh, wow, when did they go to division 1?

A couple of years back. Massey Ratings Comparison (composite of 115 rankings) has App #40...one spot ahead of Georgia.

Note: looks like this is their second full FBS season and first of bowl eligibility. Pretty good chance they will be 11-1 when they get to their bowl.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ah, happened after I left Charlotte, good for them. Boone is a really cool town.

[cumberlandreds]

Not a fan of Bama either. But that SOS argument is total BS in my mind when it comes to CFB. The conference schedule is what it is. Bama is hanging their hat on the vaunted SEC.

You can control who you play out of conference. If you play four patsy's and don't make it in because the other four teams had decent to good OOC schedules then don't cry about it. I think SOS is a good tool when you start splitting hairs for that final spot.

[villain612]

You can control who you play out of conference. If you play four patsy's and don't make it in because the other four teams had decent to good OOC schedules then don't cry about it. I think SOS is a good tool when you start splitting hairs for that final spot.

I agree with this.

Looking at you Baylor. They have future games against....Incarnate Word.

[Stray]

I don't have a problem with Baylor being below a 1 loss team. Schedule tougher games.

As far as resumes go tho, wouldn't Florida have the best 1 loss resume at this point?

[cumberlandreds]

I agree with this.

Looking at you Baylor. They have future games against....Incarnate Word.

I have a Word for that but I would have to ban myself. :)

[Assembly Hall]

You can control who you play out of conference. If you play four patsy's and don't make it in because the other four teams had decent to good OOC schedules then don't cry about it. I think SOS is a good tool when you start splitting hairs for that final spot.

Not on a year to year basis. I dont think anybody would complain about Auburn playing Indiana, or Michigan playing Vanderbilt. Schedule those 4 OOC games against other power 5 conferences. Seems like a simple recipe for me.

[Boston Red]

Why limit to the power 5 conferences? I mean, you'd give a team more credit for scheduling Kansas than for scheduling Boise State?!?

[BuckeyeRed27]

I agree with this.

Looking at you Baylor. They have future games against....Incarnate Word.

I thought you made that up. That's amazing.

[Assembly Hall]

Why limit to the power 5 conferences? I mean, you'd give a team more credit for scheduling Kansas than for scheduling Boise State?!?

That is kinda of the gist of my comment. Just play other schools that matter. Build the resume, rather than rely on your conference to do it for you. Memphis looks like a pretty good schedule right now, doesnt it?

[Boston Red]

Memphis looks like a pretty good schedule right now, doesnt it?

I mean, yeah, for a ranked, undefeated opponent on the road trap game.

[Assembly Hall]

I don't have a problem with Baylor being below a 1 loss team. Schedule tougher games.

As far as resumes go tho, wouldn't Florida have the best 1 loss resume at this point?

I think it would be Stanford myself. Followed by the Gators, and then ND.

[Assembly Hall]

I mean, yeah, for a ranked, undefeated opponent on the road trap game.

Yeah, play the big schools. And play them on their turf.

[villain612]

I thought you made that up. That's amazing.

lol Yup. I had to look them up when I first read it. I had never heard of them.

Just for fun, I was poking around on the Baylor SB nation page because I wanted to see how their fanbase was reacting to the first CFP rankings. I know a post from one random fan isn't representative of an entire fanbase but still, I laughed at this:

http://www.ourdailybears.com/2015/11/3/9666890/the-baylor-bears-are-6-in-the-first-cfb-playoff-rankings-of-2015

"If we schedule a middle of the pack P5 team and lose, but then win out from there ala Ohio State last year, there is no way in hell we get in. Also, say USC has played a weak first half, but beat them all by 30+. They are in if not in number one initially. This thing is so rigged for the big guys. Its pretty discouraging."

Scared to play a "middle of the pack P5 team". I mean, really? If you want to get the benefit of the doubt like other top tier programs, then stop playing the Incarnate Word and Lamars of the world.

[RedTeamGo!]

What is the Incarnate Word? I don't see that on their schedule

[villain612]

What is the Incarnate Word? I don't see that on their schedule

2019

And Incarnate Word just made the jump from Division 2 to FCS.

[Assembly Hall]

What is the Incarnate Word? I don't see that on their schedule

I do believe they beat Purdue in basketball last year....on Purdue's floor. Let me check.

Edit....they beat Nebraska on their floor.

[jojo]

I agree with this.

Looking at you Baylor. They have future games against....Incarnate Word.

Yes but they've continually ducked St. Nativity of the Desert.

[Revering4Blue]

Auburn boosted its quarterback depth for 2016 on Wednesday with the addition of former Florida State quarterback John Franklin III to its recruiting class.

Franklin suffered an injury in the spring and chose to transfer to East Mississippi Community College after Everett Golson announced his intention to join the Seminoles in May. Franklin was a three-star member of FSU's 2013 recruiting class and only appeared in two games, but his gifts as a runner make him a player worth Auburn's attention.

"They say they're missing a run game at the quarterback position and that's what they think I can bring," Franklin told AL.com in October after receiving an offer from Auburn's staff. "At least with Cam Newton and Nick Marshall, that's what they're missing at the position and I feel like I'd be a great fit in their offense."

An interesting note from that same AL.com post: Florida State used Franklin to simulate Auburn's Nick Marshall in its bowl practices for the BCS National Championship Game.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25363629/ex-florida-state-qb-john-franklin-iii-commits-to-auburn

Granted, it's obviously way too early to declare Jeremy Johnson an out-and-out bust who won't amount to anything - personal opinion: He's got all the tools, just needs time - but this is an interesting development.

[IslandRed]

Franklin's a good kid and he's really fast. When he announced his transfer, Auburn was one of the schools that immediately sprung to mind as a potential fit. Good luck to him.

[jojo]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25363629/ex-florida-state-qb-john-franklin-iii-commits-to-auburn

Granted, it's obviously way too early to declare Jeremy Johnson an out-and-out bust who won't amount to anything - personal opinion: He's got all the tools, just needs time - but this is an interesting development.

He was recruited as an athlete. It's not a safe assumption that he's tagged as a QB going forward. I'm sure they'll give him a chance to compete (like they did Jason Smith) but as the primary QB, he'll have a tough road to hoe. Concerning JJ, I think he's dealing with PTSS from rooming with Duke. Duke is dealing with mental illness and I can't imagine what it was like living with the guy. JJ played the first two games with a broken nose that he got from Duke. At this point, JJ just needs patience and understanding. He's a great person from a great family. It's very hard to not root for his success. But jeeps, I get why you'd room him with Duke but given the facts on the ground, what a terrible idea in retrospect. I think JJ was meant to help Duke because JJ is such a good guy. That said, JJ should've been rooming with S White while other circumstances were arranged to help Duke deal. Also, my heart really goes out to Duke. It's not an easy thing to deal with. We forget that these guys are student athletes and humans with sometimes, really challenging life issues.

All of that said, college football is a dog eat dog world and JJ's window might be closing with each practice snap taken by someone else.

[Assembly Hall]

He was recruited as an athlete. It's not a safe assumption that he's tagged as a QB going forward. I'm sure they'll give him a chance to compete (like they did Jason Smith) but as the primary QB, he'll have a tough road to hoe. Concerning JJ, I think he's dealing with PTSS from rooming with Duke. Duke is dealing with mental illness and I can't imagine what it was like living with the guy. JJ played the first two games with a broken nose that he got from Duke. At this point, JJ just needs patience and understanding. He's a great person from a great family. It's very hard to not root for his success. But jeeps, I get why you'd room him with Duke but given the facts on the ground, what a terrible idea in retrospect. I think JJ was meant to help Duke because JJ is such a good guy. That said, JJ should've been rooming with S White while other circumstances were arranged to help Duke deal. Also, my heart really goes out to Duke. It's not an easy thing to deal with. We forget that these guys are student athletes and humans with sometimes, really challenging life issues.

All of that said, college football is a dog eat dog world and JJ's window might be closing with each practice snap taken by someone else.

Any hints that JJ might transfer?

[villain612]

Yes but they've continually ducked St. Nativity of the Desert.

Yeah, but I did hear that they have a home and home series with the University of Devry in 2020 and 2021.

[jojo]

Any hints that JJ might transfer?

Not yet but it's a logical thing to wonder for sure.

[Assembly Hall]

Not yet but it's a logical thing to wonder for sure.

Keep us updated on that.

[jojo]

Keep us updated on that.

A&M's back 7 kind of sucks but their front four are gifted speed rushers. If S. White is still hobbled and is a one-legged sitting duck in the pocket, JJ might become the starter again going forward because White very well may get killed Saturday.

[villain612]

So who's everyone taking in the big one this weekend?

My heart says LSU but my head says Bama 24-17.

[BillDoran]

So who's everyone taking in the big one this weekend?

My heart says LSU but my head says Bama 24-17.

Haven't watched enough of either team to give any kind of educated guess, but I'm pulling for LSU. For reasons I don't entirely understand, I like Les Miles, that crazed lil' munchkin.

[dabvu2498]

Munchkin??? Miles was an OL at Michigan. :)

I think LSU discovers a passing attack and Fournette finishes them off. But not without some Mad Hatter Magic.

[Assembly Hall]

So who's everyone taking in the big one this weekend?

My heart says LSU but my head says Bama 24-17.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CalFHp1zKhM

[Brutus]

I personally think Bama wins by double digits.

[Assembly Hall]

Tragic.......

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25365866/mississippi-states-keith-joseph-jr-killed-in-auto-accident

[19braves77]

Rain will probably turn this into the game that Alabama prefer to play:

Alabama 16 LSU 14

Coker needs to probably have the game that we will all remember him for...

[Tom Servo]

So much for Ole Miss winning out.

[villain612]

So much for Ole Miss winning out.

Them jumping to #2 after beating Bama was a huge lol.

[Chip R]

Missouri's African American players say they will not play or practice until the university president resigns.

http://footballscoop.com/news/missouris-black-players-vow-not-to-practice-or-play-again-until-the-university-president-resigns/

[19braves77]

Just give tha Heisman Trophy to Henry.

Your welcome Baylor.

[RedTeamGo!]

Just give tha Heisman Trophy to Henry.

Your welcome Baylor.

Baylor? I think ND will jump up

[jojo]

Ummm. No for the Heisman for Henry. Gumps can pretend he won it. That should be good enough because they're good at the imaginary titles.

[Tom Servo]

I gotta give credit to Bama, I didn't think they'd stop Fournette and boy did they ever.

[19braves77]

With the Missouri situation, I didn't like my last job so I quit and looked for a better job after realizing I wasn't the problem. Why not just go to another school? At some point, this generation including whites need to learn that principled stands (assuming you have one) often cost you everything.

[Chip R]

With the Missouri situation, I didn't like my last job so I quit and looked for a better job after realizing I wasn't the problem. Why not just go to another school? At some point, this generation including whites need to learn that principled stands (assuming you have one) often cost you everything.

The president has resigned.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/missouri-system-president-tim-wolfe-resigns-amid-campus-protests--racial-tension-164601915.html

[goreds2]

http://vaughtsviews.com/sports/college/uk/football/stoops-says-patrick-towles-accepts-how-quarterback-decision-will-be/article_f868a6fa-871b-11e5-b22f-1f41a22a245c.html

Stoops says Patrick Towles "accepts" how quarterback decision will be handled

[19braves77]

It would be a huge letdown if Alabama loses this weeks game vs Mississippi State with the way they played against LSU. Last Saturday was their best full-game effort, but it wasn't perfect either.

[Tom Servo]

Dak Prescott's having a great season, hopefully they put up more of a battle than LSU did.

[jimbo]

http://vaughtsviews.com/sports/college/uk/football/stoops-says-patrick-towles-accepts-how-quarterback-decision-will-be/article_f868a6fa-871b-11e5-b22f-1f41a22a245c.html

Stoops says Patrick Towles "accepts" how quarterback decision will be handled

I know the play this team has gotten from Towles hasn't been exactly acceptable the past several games, but there are bigger problems with this team. I've never seen a team who consistently beats itself with stupid penalties, an overall lack of discipline, and the knack of giving up multiple big plays, year in and year out. Stoops needs to also be evaluating himself, along with this his coaches.

With as bad as Kentucky has played recently, I really can't see them winning another game, even the non-conference game. Two straight seasons with great starts, only to fall short of becoming bowl eligible, and Stoops is deservingly going to start feeling some heat.

[Boston Red]

There is an approximately 0% chance Kentucky loses to Charlotte.