4/17/16 - Reds @ Cardinals

[Tom Servo]

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[Chuckie]

Why is Moscot pitching instead of Simon? Isn't it Fredo's turn in the rotation?

Furthermore, Moscot didn't pitch well in either of his rehab starts. This could get ugly.

Mesoraco playing 2 days in a row makes me happy. I thought we'd see Barnhart today.

[RedTeamGo!]

Rehab starts are kind of like spring training. The results mean very little.

[Chuckie]

Rehab starts are kind of like spring training. The results mean very little.

True, as long as his velocity was on point, that's probably all that matters.

[Eric from NC]

Accoring to Sheldon, Price wanted more offensive pop vs. Wacha so sat BH for Schebler.

[757690]

Accoring to Sheldon, Price wanted more offensive pop vs. Wacha so sat BH for Schebler.

I have yet to see any evidence that Schebler is a CF. I don't see what the Reds see.

[Chuckie]

I have yet to see any evidence that Schebler is a CF. I don't see what the Reds see.

I don't think they ever believe he can be an everyday CF. But he's OK as a fill-in guy in center once per week or so.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hamilton has looked decent at the plate lately. Makes sense to sit him two cinsecutive days.

[757690]

I don't think they ever believe he can be an everyday CF. But he's OK as a fill-in guy in center once per week or so.

Honestly. I don't even see that. He looks even worse than Choo did to my eyes.

[Wonderful Monds]

Hamilton has looked decent at the plate lately. Makes sense to sit him two Cinsecutive days.

Best typo.

[Tom Servo]

I feel bad to laugh, but man was that a stupid play by Moscot last year lol

[Tom Servo]

Cozart doubles and will save us all.

Suarez singles one to CF that was down around his shoes.

[Gandalf the Red]

Cozart doubles and will save us all.

I feel a little guilty because my first thought is "I wonder what Walt can extract for him at the All-Star break if he keeps this up?"

[Tom Servo]

Eugenio no

picked off.

[Chuckie]

Nice work Joe. 1-0 Reds.

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Eugenio no

picked off.

Eugen-NO!

[kaldaniels]

I'm not watching the broadcast.

Did that warrant a "get em on get em over get em in"?

[Chuckie]

I feel a little guilty because my first thought is "I wonder what Walt can extract for him at the All-Star break if he keeps this up?"

Was immediately my first thought. No guilt though.

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I'm not watching the broadcast.

Did that warrant a "get em on get em over get em in"?

No, Grande didn't drop his classic line. But if this continues, the Reds will be on the smiling side of the scoreboard.

[Big Klu]

I know the Reds (rightfully) chose not to challenge the pickoff, but I don't think that manager should even be allowed to wait for a replay guy to check the video before making a decision. If you want to challenge a call, you do it based on what you or your coaches and players saw from the dugout or field.

[JaxRed]

I know the Reds (rightfully) chose not to challenge the pickoff, but I don't think that manager should even be allowed to wait for a replay guy to check the video before making a decision. If you want to challenge a call, you do it based on what you or your coaches and players saw from the dugout or field.

I agree.

[Powder River]

Suarez is making me happy with his plate approach..... Everything else, not so much. I hope he gets it together on the bases and with the glove soon.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Throw strikes, Moscot.

Is it me, or does the ball carry really well when Moscot pitches?

[Powder River]

Anyone have thoughts on why they're not giving more playing time to Holt?

[DocRed]

geezus BP error again..

[Tom Servo]

Damn BP, get it together.

[Big Klu]

Anyone have thoughts on why they're not giving more playing time to Holt?

I think they are obviously looking for more offense.

[Tom Servo]

Nice job Moscot, more of that.

[JaxRed]

I'm hopeful for Moscot. I think he was well on his way last year before the injury.

[Donder]

geezus BP error again..

Bobblin' Brandon

[Chuckie]

Impressive first inning from Moscot.

[Donder]

Man I want this bunt thing to work for Bruce. I hope he sticks with it.


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[BluegrassRedleg]

Bruce just barely missed that one.

[Chuckie]

I know the Reds (rightfully) chose not to challenge the pickoff, but I don't think that manager should even be allowed to wait for a replay guy to check the video before making a decision. If you want to challenge a call, you do it based on what you or your coaches and players saw from the dugout or field.

I know, could you imagine if they could do that in football? I mean, Marvin would still get most of his challenges wrong probably, but it sure would change things.

[Big Klu]

Why is Moscot pitching instead of Simon? Isn't it Fredo's turn in the rotation?

Simon started on Wednesday at Chicago. His next scheduled start would be tomorrow.

[Chuckie]

Duvall double!

[Tom Servo]

Bobblin' Brandon
Sad!

[Donder]

Is Duvall starting to make anyone else a believer?


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[Tom Servo]

Is Duvall starting to make anyone else a believer?


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Yup. I think he's a cheap source of power who you could stick in the lineup everyday and give you something like 25 HRs, 30 2Bs. Of course the problem is the OBP will be low and he's hard to hide defensively.

['69]

Sad!

Wierd.

[Chuckie]

Jim Day gives a glowing report on Homer Bailey. Coaching staff can't believe how good he looks. (Bailey, not Day.)

[Big Klu]

I know, could you imagine if they could do that in football? I mean, Marvin would still get most of his challenges wrong probably, but it sure would change things.

The main difference is that football coaching staffs have someone up in the booth anyway, and they are in constant communication with the sideline via the headsets. Also, the flow of the game isn't disrupted in football like it is in baseball.

[Chuckie]

Cheap HR for Jerk-O.

[Tom Servo]

Jerko, barely over the fence. Tie game.

I can live with solo HRs though.

[TheBigLebowski]

Moscot is just not very good.

[Chuckie]

Moscot is just not very good.

Better than Melville. #lowbar

[Chuckie]

Well, time to start grilling. I'll check back later.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Too much plate to all of these guys. Make some pitches, young man.

[Gandalf the Red]

Well, if he doesn't work out as a starter, Moscot should be able to make a seamless transition to the Reds' bullpen.

[Kc61]

Moscot will be fine.

[Tom Servo]

Moscot will be fine.
Agreed, though I'm not a necessarily sold on him adding much besides eating some innings this season. You can't be surprised that a pitch-to-contact guy runs into trouble sometimes.

[Chip R]

Agreed, though I'm not a necessarily sold on him adding much besides eating some innings this season. You can't be surprised that a pitch-to-contact guy runs into trouble sometimes.

That's exactly what we need.

[Ironman92]

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[BluegrassRedleg]

They're all over Wacha today. Unfortunately, about 2-3 balls have been scalded right at someone.

[Kc61]

Agreed, though I'm not a necessarily sold on him adding much besides eating some innings this season. You can't be surprised that a pitch-to-contact guy runs into trouble sometimes.

I think Moscot will be a very solid BOR starter.

His stuff may be major league average but his control and makeup are very good.

He hasn't pitched in a real game for about ten months, so there may be a break in period.

IMO he's undersold consistently on this site because of K rate and velocity.

[Tom Servo]

I think he will be a very solid BOR starter.

His stuff may be major league average but his control and makeup are very good.

He hasn't pitched in a real game for about ten months, so there may be a break in period.

IMO he's undersold consistently on this site because of K rate and velocity.
I agree with all of this, I just think ideally he could use some more time in Louisville. Unfortunately, he and the Reds don't have the luxury.

['69]

"Ironman quote"

Maybe he has been. Maybe they watch each other make 1st pitch outs on the regular.

[kaldaniels]

I think Moscot will be a very solid BOR starter.

His stuff may be major league average but his control and makeup are very good.

He hasn't pitched in a real game for about ten months, so there may be a break in period.

IMO he's undersold consistently on this site because of K rate and velocity.

Not a Moscot fan.

Just wondering, when you say BOR starter...can you give me a comp?

[PXShaman]

Finally, someone on this pitching staff that isn't afraid to pump in strikes.

[Tom Servo]

Not a Moscot fan.

Just wondering, when you say BOR starter...can you give me a comp?
Not that I think he'll reach the same career heights, but I think of a guy like Jon Garland.

[Chuckie]

And we're tied! Little League play from the Cards. I love it.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thank you, Wacha. We'll take it.

[malcontent]

Coaching staff can't believe how good he looks. (Bailey, not Day.)
Day could use a goatee. He also could stop dressing like a funeral director, though there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that.

[Tom Servo]

waka waka waka

[Chuckie]

Bruce's first career hit v Wacha.

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Mes RBI single! 3-2 Redlegs.

[Big Klu]

Two batters for the Reds, two errors for the Cards.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Amazing what can happen when you go out and make consistent contact.

[Gandalf the Red]

Either these teams switched uniforms between innings or I just woke up on the Bizzarro planet.

[Tom Servo]

3-2 Redlegs on the Mesoraco single

[Ironman92]

LEADING [emoji3][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

[BluegrassRedleg]

That should be challenged. Tie to the runner at the very worst.

[WrongVerb]

Did one of the announcers just say that doubles are better than homers?

[Tom Servo]

Did one of the announcers just say that doubles are better than homers?
Basically yes, it was a pretty dumb conversation.

[Tom Servo]

That should be challenged. Tie to the runner at the very worst.
That's what I'm thinking, seems worth the challenge.

[BluegrassRedleg]

LOL. Amazing.

Get. Rid. Of. Replay.

[kaldaniels]

That should be challenged. Tie to the runner at the very worst.

So close. But remember, technically a tie is an out. The runner must beat the ball.

[Kc61]

Not that I think he'll reach the same career heights, but I think of a guy like Jon Garland.

Mike Leake has a lifetime 3.91 ERA with a 6.1 K rate and a 2.3 BB rate. And a 4.20 FIP.

I think Moscot can accomplish similar numbers if given the chance.

He would be helped by a good defensive infield, as Leake has been.

[BluegrassRedleg]

So close. But remember, technically a tie is an out. The runner must beat the ball.

If that's the case, I suppose it can be argued there's not enough to change the call. But he was certainly there a split-second before the ball was "in the back of the glove." (If that's the actual rule. I'm taking George and Chris's word for it.)

[Red Raindog]

So close. But remember, technically a tie is an out. The runner must beat the ball.

I thought technically there are no ties --

=== looked it up

this from MLB - Tim McClelland (ump)

I am an umpire for Little League. The coach told me that ties go to the runner. I said the batter has to beat the throw to first because there are no such thing as ties. Who is right?
-- L.M.F.

McClelland: That is exactly right. There are no ties and there is no rule that says the tie goes to the runner. But the rule book does say that the runner must beat the ball to first base, and so if he doesn't beat the ball, then he is out. So you have to make the decision. That's why umpires are paid the money they are, to make the decision on if he did or if he didn't. The only thing you can do is go by whether or not he beat the ball. If he did, then he is safe.

[Big Klu]

waka waka waka

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[kaldaniels]

I thought technically there are no ties --

A ball can be caught and the runner can touch first at the exact same time.

It may be an old expression that "there are no ties" but it can physically happen. In which case, out.

[JaxRed]

I thought technically there are no ties --

Then explain this picture

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[Tom Servo]

nice grab by Bruce

[Chuckie]

Moscot is commanding his slurve well. 2 quick outs.

[JaxRed]

Moscot has lowered his ERA from 13.50 after the double to 4.91 !!

[Red Raindog]

Then explain this picture

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skinny ties --- yummmm

[kaldaniels]

I thought technically there are no ties --

=== looked it up

this from MLB - Tim McClelland (ump)

I am an umpire for Little League. The coach told me that ties go to the runner. I said the batter has to beat the throw to first because there are no such thing as ties. Who is right?
-- L.M.F.

McClelland: That is exactly right. There are no ties and there is no rule that says the tie goes to the runner. But the rule book does say that the runner must beat the ball to first base, and so if he doesn't beat the ball, then he is out. So you have to make the decision. That's why umpires are paid the money they are, to make the decision on if he did or if he didn't. The only thing you can do is go by whether or not he beat the ball. If he did, then he is safe.

Exactly. "No ties" is an old umpire expression. (Some might say excuse)

The rulebook says nothing of the sort. Only that a runner must beat the ball.

[Red Raindog]

A ball can be caught and the runner can touch first at the exact same time.

It may be an old expression that "there are no ties" but it can physically happen. In which case, out.

hence the "technically"

[Tom Servo]

George pretty excited about the Cardinals backup catcher having 2 hits.

[Chuckie]

George pretty excited about the Cardinals backup catcher having 2 hits.

Eric Fryer is your NL batting average leader at 1.000. (Oh, 5 ABs isn't enough to qualify?)

[BluegrassRedleg]

skinny ties --- yummmm

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[PXShaman]

14 pitch 4th for Moscot
He is looking comfortable on that mound. First time all season I don't need to hold my breath for a pitcher.

[Wonderful Monds]

Then explain this picture

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False flag operation courtesy of BIG TIE

[kaldaniels]

hence the "technically"

You are confusing me dude. If a ball and the runner arrive at the exact same time, for all intents and purposes we can call that a "tie", (just as if two sprinters hit the tape at the exact same instant), the runner is out. That's all I am saying.

Curmudgeon Tim McClelland may say there are no ties, but it can happen.

[Red Raindog]

You are confusing me dude. If a ball and the runner arrive at the exact same time, for all intents and purposes we can call that a "tie", (just as if two sprinters hit the tape at the exact same instant), the runner is out. That's all I am saying.

Curmudgeon Tim McClelland may say there are no ties, but it can happen.

yes there obviously can be a physical tie but then you are out

[Red Raindog]

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pass on the bow tie

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cozart keeps on keepin' on.

[RedsfaninMT]

Cozart keeps on keepin' on.

Gotta love a .500 AVG at this point of the season.

[Kc61]

Cozart always could make contact, but seemed off balance so often.

His balance seems so much better, the contact solid, although that time a bloop.

Terrific improvement, great to see, hope it lasts.

[Tom Servo]

I'm a few beers deep and if you don't believe in the new Cozart Revolution you can get the hell out of my face.

[Chuckie]

Gotta love a .500 AVG at this point of the season.

Not too bad.

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I'm a few beers deep and if you don't believe in the new Cozart Revolution you can get the hell out of my face.

Haha!

:beerme:

[kaldaniels]

I'm a few beers deep and if you don't believe in the new Cozart Revolution you can get the hell out of my face.

I mean I'm a reasonable guy but the hot take that Cozart should be benched bewilders me.

[Chuckie]

Cozart always could make contact, but seemed off balance so often.

His balance seems so much better, the contact solid, although that time a bloop.

Terrific improvement, great to see, hope it lasts.

Reds are in rebuilding mode as you know as well as anyone. So, give me your opinion on this: Cozart continues to hit well (not .500 well, but well). Do you try and deal him at the deadline? Is he your SS of the future if he's willing to sign for the right price? I say trade him because I think it's a mirage, but this is two years now where Cozart has looked like a different hitter (small sample size though due to his injury last year and the fact we're just in April of this year).

[Chuckie]

I mean I'm a reasonable guy but the hot take that Cozart should be benched bewilders me.

He didn't say benched though. Just anyone who doesn't believe Cozart is entering Tulo territory can get out of Servo's face. The revolution is real. (Wait, Tulo sucks this year. Nevermind.)

[OGB]

I don't get where this Cozart offense is coming from, but if he's hitting close to a 275/330/450 slash in early July, think of the return he might bring.
Well, I can dream at least.

[Tom Servo]

I mean I'm a reasonable guy but the hot take that Cozart should be benched bewilders me.
Yeah I mean I've been one of his biggest detractors when it comes to his offense but he did hit well last year and he's off to a scorching start this year. There's no reason to take him out the the lineup now.

I'm also coming around to belief that he's made adjustment like fellow former all-glove, no hit SS Brandon Crawford that has turned him into at least a decent hitter, which combined with his defense makes him a very strong well-rounded player.

[Chuckie]

Moscot does a nice job throwing that slurve ... and then coming back with the fastball.

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Welp. Carpenter crushed that one.

[Tom Servo]

3-3 game

That looked like a case where Moscot got behind and didn't want to walk Carpenter, so he just threw it over the middle.

[JaxRed]

Moscot has lowered his ERA from 13.50 after the double to 4.91 !!

Oops.

[Chuckie]

One down. Piss-Scotty grounds out.

[Chuckie]

2-0? Moscot throws the slurve. For a strike. Clearly his go-to pitch. Then comes back with it on 2-1!

[Kc61]

Reds are in rebuilding mode as you know as well as anyone. So, give me your opinion on this: Cozart continues to hit well (not .500 well, but well). Do you try and deal him at the deadline? Is he your SS of the future if he's willing to sign for the right price? I say trade him because I think it's a mirage, but this is two years now where Cozart has looked like a different hitter (small sample size though due to his injury last year and the fact we're just in April of this year).

Cozart is signed up for this year and next.

I'm a little concerned about trading him. Suarez is shaky defensively and Cozart's glove helps the kid pitchers.

If the Reds truly feel Peraza can handle short then maybe, but I'd go slow on trading Cozart for this reason, defense.

On the other hand, given his contract status, I'd probably try to take advantage of Bruce's good year (so far) and see who he would bring in a trade. I'd trade him if offered a good package.

[Chuckie]

Cozart is signed up for this year and next.

I'm a little concerned about trading him. Suarez is shaky defensively and Cozart's glove helps the kid pitchers.

If the Reds truly feel Peraza can handle short then maybe, but I'd go slow on trading Cozart for this reason.

On the other hand, given his contract status, I'd probably try to take advantage of Bruce's good year (so far) and see who he would bring in a trade.

You didn't answer my question. Do you try and deal him or not? He's going to be 31 in August and 2017 will be his final year of arbitration. Free agent the offseason before 2018. Now is the time to deal him, IMO.

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Nice work Moscot. Going to the top of the 6th tied at 3.

[ukredleg]

Cardinals fans doing the Mexican wave. As if I didn't hate them enough already.

[Tom Servo]

Would be great if he could go one more, but I'd be fine if this is it for Moscot. He's done well.

[JaxRed]

I say trade him. And if he stays hot and you get a good offer, trade him earlier. He's not the future.

[Kc61]

You didn't answer my question. Do you try and deal him or not? He's going to be 31 in August and 2017 will be his final year of arbitration. Free agent the offseason before 2018. Now is the time to deal him, IMO.

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Nice work Moscot. Going to the top of the 6th tied at 3.

I thought I answered. I would be reluctant to trade Cozart, and would not shop him for the reasons I gave.

If a great offer came, I'd trade anybody.

The Reds lead the NL in errors so far. I think the stability Cozart brings defensively at a key position is important in rebuilding. I feel the same way about Hamilton's defense.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce jobbed on strike 3 call

Chris pointing out something I've noticed, which is Wacha's decreased velocity.

[Kc61]

Moscot at 87 pitches through five. Price said 90-100 for him today.

This is his last inning, I wouldn't push him if he gets into trouble.

[membengal]

Bruce jobbed on strike 3 call

Chris pointing out something I've noticed, which is Wacha's decreased velocity.

From when? I saw a 96 that inning.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I'm in the Twilight Zone today re: instant replay.

[Tom Servo]

From when? I saw a 96 that inning.
In my defense, I did say I was a few beers deep. I saw a lot of low 90s but apparently that was just the cutter.

[Kc61]

Moscot still throwing well, but I think this should be his last hitter. Wood in the pen.

[Tom Servo]

Good work Moscot, that HBP to Garcia was weak.

[PXShaman]

Welcome back Moscot, great pitched game.

[Kc61]

This is an exciting part of the game, wonder if the Reds announcers will stop discussing the Cards catcher Fryer and discuss instead the game situation.

[malcontent]

Reds need a second LH reliever.

[Tom Servo]

Line drive to Cozart end the threat. 3-3 after 6.

[757690]

Someone asked what a #5 starter looks like. We just saw it. 5.2 innings, 3 runs.

[Ron Madden]

Reds need a second LH reliever.


Lamb???

[PXShaman]

Someone asked what a #5 starter looks like. We just saw it. 5.2 innings, 3 runs.

I can see him being a consistant 6/7 IP per game pitcher. Those contact pitchers though do get rocked sometimes at GAbP.
I think he will lead IP this year for the Reds.

[Kc61]

Someone asked what a #5 starter looks like. We just saw it. 5.2 innings, 3 runs.

Not disagreeing, but 5.2 innings is about average for a major league start these days. So that part of the equation is better than fifth starter material.

I agree with the previous post that Moscot could easily pitch longer stints.

He also could get knocked around occasionally.

I see Mike Leake in this guy.

[LeDoux]

Line on Moscot: 5.2IP 6H 3R 3ER 1BB 2K

Compared to recent pitching performances this seems like Cy Young level.

[Kc61]

Ohlendorf hasn't pitched much lately. Wonder if he'll get the call.

[Tom Servo]

Have to figure the Cardinals will win this battle of the bullpens, but oh well.

[Rantly]

Has Siegrist ever not got the job done when he comes in...against the Reds?

[Tom Servo]

Ohlendorf hasn't pitched much lately. Wonder if he'll get the call.
Cingrani in. I thought maybe Ohlendorf was being saved for long duty today in case Moscot got bombed, now I'm wondering if he's maybe unavailable. He is probably the de facto longman at the moment with Straily to the rotation seemingly imminent.

[malcontent]

Lamb???
Could be. Since Finnegan seems to be establishing himself in the rotation, that removes him as a possibility.

I'd actually be surprised if they make Lamb a reliever, he's always been a starter and has a starter's repertoire.

[Kc61]

Cingrani in. I thought maybe Ohlendorf was being saved for long duty today in case Moscot got bombed, now I'm wondering if he's maybe unavailable. He is probably the de facto longman at the moment with Straily to the rotation seemingly imminent.

Hope he's not hurt. Unusual for Ohlendorf to not pitch for a few days given all the bullpen needs.

Cingrani with a walk, I can't blame him too much, several very close pitches. Has to bear down now.

[Kc61]

Could be. Since Finnegan seems to be establishing himself in the rotation, that removes him as a possibility.

I'd actually be surprised if they make Lamb a reliever, he's always been a starter and has a starter's repertoire.

I agree that it's unlikely. I'd put Lamb in the bullpen in a heartbeat. I think he could be a good late innings man, but has trouble going deep in games as a starter.

For another discussion on a slow, off day sometime.

[Tom Servo]

Nice work Tony C

[Ron Madden]

Good Job Tony C. !!!

[BCubb2003]

Breaking: Walk fails to haunt

[Ron Madden]

I remember when Phillips used to kill LH Pitching.

[Tom Servo]

I hate Seacrest.

[Raisor]

@joeynotto goes too far. Just told me to drown my cat.

Enough is enough

[Bourgeois Zee]

Ohlendorf becomes set-up man?

Makes sense with that 95 mph heater he suddenly owns.

Nice play by Cozart.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Whoever worked on Cozart's knee deserves a medal.

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They haunt.

[Tom Servo]

I hate Eric Fryer. And George Grande's love for him.

Cards take the lead on his RBI double.

[Kc61]

Not that it was catchable, but this Schebler in CF decision is strictly a rebuild trial and error thing.

Would have rather had Billy H chasing down that gapper by the great Eric Fryer.

[Kc61]

If Reds lose 5 of 6 on this road trip, the big loss was the first game, the Finnegan no-hit bid. That was the one they should have had. Oh well, rebuilding year.

[BluegrassRedleg]

STL will find a thousand ways to win series against visiting Reds. This time its by making no-name dudes Garcia and Freyer unretirable.

[50YrRedsFan]

I hate Eric Fryer. And George Grande's love for him.

Cards take the lead on his RBI double. Walks again will doom the Reds. Reds are the only team averaging more than 5 walks per 9 innings.

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds bullpen does it again.

[Powder River]

Yeah, I know we're rebuilding.... Not supposed to do much this year - Whatever..... I just get so sick of loosing to the Cardinals sometimes. Can't this Reds team pull it together for two out of three.... Ever?!?!?!?

[Tom Servo]

Reds bullpen does it again.
I mean, hard to fault them too much here. 3-3 bullpen game after 6, I don't think the result was much in doubt.

[BenHayes]

Today was Ohlendorf's day to blow it. Still a 6 and 6 start but with 4 coming up against Chicago this week .500 might be a short lived luxury!

[malcontent]

Not that it was catchable, but this Schebler in CF decision is strictly a rebuild trial and error thing.

Would have rather had Billy H chasing down that gapper by the great Eric Fryer.
I'm surprised Price didn't double-switch him in at some point.

[LeDoux]

I mean, hard to fault them too much here. 3-3 bullpen game after 6, I don't think the result was much in doubt.

No, but I want that doubt to return. I am am not asking for the return of the Nasty Boys. Just make it competitive.

That being said, I actually feel better about the bullpen now than I did before the game. Yeah, they blew the lead. But it wasn't a series of successive meltdowns. Progress!

[Tom Servo]

No, but I want that doubt to return. I am am not asking for the return of the Nasty Boys. Just make it competitive.

That being said, I actually feel better about the bullpen now than I did before the game. Yeah, they blew the lead. But it wasn't a series of successive meltdowns. Progress!
Didn't Moscot blow the lead?

[Red Raindog]

Walks again will doom the Reds. Reds are the only team averaging more than 5 walks per 9 innings.

just think how bad those numbers would be if Price hadn't laid down the law about not tolerating walks

[LeDoux]

Didn't Moscot blow the lead?

Yes, I guess I meant "gave the lead." But please don't mention starter issues in the same post as the bullpen. I lack the emotionally capacity have multiple Reds shortcomings in my mind at once. I can only survive a "rebuild" by a labyrinth of self delusion(s.)

[BluegrassRedleg]

just think how bad those numbers would be if Price hadn't laid down the law about not tolerating walks

:p

[Raisor]

I'm starting to think that some of you are unable to emotionally handle a rebuild.

[757690]

Not that it was catchable, but this Schebler in CF decision is strictly a rebuild trial and error thing.

Would have rather had Billy H chasing down that gapper by the great Eric Fryer.

Not to mention that Hamilton's OPS at the start of the game was higher than Schebler's.

[Mutaman]

I'm starting to think that some of you are unable to emotionally handle a rebuild.

Done it before and can do it again. Incompetence? Have always had a hard time handling that.

[Larry Schuler]

I can live with a rebuild. But losing? Unforgivable.

[757690]

I'm starting to think that some of you are unable to emotionally handle a rebuild.

The problem many are having, understandably, is that this team looks much better than anticipated. Outside of the pen, this team looks like a contender. So, it doesn't feel like a rebuilding year, or like it shouldn't be a rebuilding year.

[westofyou]

The problem many are having, understandably, is that this team looks much better than anticipated. Outside of the pen, this team looks like a contender. So, it doesn't feel like a rebuilding year, or like it shouldn't be a rebuilding year.

Contender?

They haven't played 1/10th of the season yet.

Small sample size still applies

[757690]

Contender?

They haven't played 1/10th of the season yet.

Small sample size still applies

It's not about the record or stats. It's about the talent.

[westofyou]

It's not about the record or stats. It's about the talent.

This is baseball, in the long run stats and the record are what measures talent

[Chip R]

Done it before and can do it again. Incompetence? Have always had a hard time handling that.

Unfortunately you're going to see a lot of that during this rebuild.

[757690]

This is baseball, in the long run stats and the record are what measures talent

All good points, I agree. But it looks like the team is better than a rebuilding team. Time will tell what they really are, but for now, it's harder to deal with the losses, because the team looks pretty good. If this were the Braves. Twins or Phillies, it would be easier to accept.

[CWRed]

It's not about the record or stats. It's about the talent.

Can we stop with the cliche, "It's not about the, it's about the..." Then we might actually talk about what is wrong with the club. The bullpen mostly.

[RedsBrick]

Can we stop with the cliche, "It's not about the, it's about the..." Then we might actually talk about what is wrong with the club. The bullpen mostly.

Pen has been pretty bad. It would also be helpful if the starters could go deeper than 5 innings.