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klw
04-24-2016, 12:33 PM
Schebler CF
Suarez 3B
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Duvall LF
Barnhart C
De Jesus SS
Simon P

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 12:34 PM
Go Reds! Just be decent Simon

androosh
04-24-2016, 12:57 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this lineup feels like they're conceding the series to the Cubs instead of trying to go 2-2. I know Cozart is really the only of the 3 starters they're sitting that has been worth anything this year, but the order of the lineup could have been tweaked to be much better for the guys they've decided to use. And does any other team sit 3 starters in the same game? (I honestly don't know the answer to that question but I would guess no).

Donder
04-24-2016, 01:02 PM
I am so glad to be with my wife's family right now who are huge NASCAR fans. *sarcasm*


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Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:15 PM
La Stella double (nearly HR), Heyward single. 1-0 Cubs.


Here we go again.

malcontent
04-24-2016, 01:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE

Stray
04-24-2016, 01:15 PM
welp

Edskin
04-24-2016, 01:17 PM
Simon was just an awful, awful signing. Can't wait until he gets DFA'd.

malcontent
04-24-2016, 01:18 PM
With this lineup, Rizzo could hit .200 and knock in 120.

Should have thrown him the old forkball.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:18 PM
LOL. That was a TERRIBLE pitch.

3-0 Cubs on a Rizzo HR.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 01:18 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this lineup feels like they're conceding the series to the Cubs instead of trying to go 2-2. I know Cozart is really the only of the 3 starters they're sitting that has been worth anything this year, but the order of the lineup could have been tweaked to be much better for the guys they've decided to use. And does any other team sit 3 starters in the same game? (I honestly don't know the answer to that question but I would guess no).

Mesoraco and Cozart are coming off serious injuries and the Reds are resting them more frequently than usual.

I don't see a much better batting order available with this group. Hamilton is also hurt, there's no true lead off hitter.

The Reds aren't conceding this game, Barnhart has played well, Schebler can do damage. I'm not a big DeJesus fan but he's hitting eighth and is the backup shortstop on the team.

malcontent
04-24-2016, 01:21 PM
Three runs isn't gonna win this game.

Now let's get out #2, Alfredo.

westofyou
04-24-2016, 01:22 PM
Sure the Reds are conceding the series.

Simon is pitching


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Kc61
04-24-2016, 01:25 PM
The Reds will win this game.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:26 PM
Simon finished the inning! Progress!

'69
04-24-2016, 01:27 PM
LOL. That was a TERRIBLE pitch.

3-0 Cubs on a Rizzo HR.

That pitch looked chin high, Rizzos a freak.

RedTeamGo!
04-24-2016, 01:28 PM
Broken News: Alfredo Simon is toast. DFA when Homer is ready.

TheBigLebowski
04-24-2016, 01:30 PM
Fettuccine Alfredo should no longer be featured on this menu.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:33 PM
Ferrari back in the garage.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 01:34 PM
I think Simon can still play the innings eater role. He missed much of spring training and it obviously had an impact on him. I don't think they will DFA him, when the rotation gets healthy he'll go to the pen and eat some innings there.

'69
04-24-2016, 01:36 PM
Nice play br Bruce.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 01:38 PM
According to the UZR people, Bruce has had a tough start defensively. Nice catch there.

'69
04-24-2016, 01:38 PM
Ferrari back in the garage.

Isn't there more of a reliable supercar he could have chosen?

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2016, 01:39 PM
I hope Simon is DFA'd soon.

Another uncomfortable at bat by Votto.

Crumbley
04-24-2016, 01:44 PM
I can't handle Thom. I just can't.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:46 PM
I can't discount the possibility because I'm not inside his body, but I can't really buy into the idea that an injury is causing Simon's performance when he is throwing 93 mph.

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I can't handle Thom. I just can't.
Thom really raised the intellectual bar there, I loved Chris' "I don't know what you're saying".

OnBaseMachine
04-24-2016, 01:46 PM
Two outs, nobody on base, 1-2 count on the pitcher and Simon turns that situation into a two run inning.

Fil3232
04-24-2016, 01:46 PM
No way Simon can make his next start. He'll be on the DL I have to believe.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:47 PM
Nice throw by Barnhart.

KittyDuran
04-24-2016, 01:47 PM
Sigh... Haven't been to my seats (I bought 3) yet. [emoji80]

hebroncougar
04-24-2016, 01:48 PM
Nice throw by Barnhart.


Next inning Thom will be asking with an arm like that why he doesn't pitch twice a week and play catcher on his off days.

westofyou
04-24-2016, 01:49 PM
I can't handle Thom. I just can't.

I was watching the Cubs feed, at least they aren't homers like Harrelson on the CWS feed... now Simon has given me an excuse to go on a hike

Alooohaz
04-24-2016, 01:50 PM
Alohaz from mid Pacific - first time poster - kinda virginal...On POSITIVE NOTE -- Simon hasn't walked anyone...

Red Raindog
04-24-2016, 01:50 PM
Alohaz from mid Pacific - first time poster - kinda virginal...On POSITIVE NOTE -- Simon hasn't walked anyone...

You will fit right in

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 01:59 PM
LOL

Enjoy your Sunday, folks.

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 02:00 PM
We now know why his former team let him go. He's not much of a pitcher, and maybe never was. Simon says throw a gopher ball.

Slick fielder, too

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:01 PM
Simon is a batting tee

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:03 PM
Simon is a batting tee
But he's eating a whole 3 innings*.


*Maybe

RedsBrick
04-24-2016, 02:04 PM
This coddling of Cozart's playing time is completely annoying.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:04 PM
But he's eating a whole 3 innings*.


*Maybe

I wouldn't count on it...

texasdave
04-24-2016, 02:05 PM
I thought the word on the street was that Simon was not going to be ready to pitch on Sunday? They were right.

tomnuetten
04-24-2016, 02:05 PM
I just donīt like him... but yeah atleast he gives you lots of sure innings :devil:

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 02:06 PM
Hayes is next as AAAA pitcher follows AAAA pitcher into a double digit lead.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:06 PM
Is it ok to say that Simon is garbage?

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUY1J8KizU

Chuckie
04-24-2016, 02:07 PM
Welp, I was wrong about the Simon signing. He's dreadful.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:09 PM
94 mph on the last 3 pitches to Hammel. I don't think there's any particular injury hampering him, this is just who he is.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:09 PM
Nice work innings eater

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 02:10 PM
Game over after 2.1 innings and 70 pitches. I imagine a lot of folks at the park will soon leave for the Banks to drink. Don't blame them one bit.

Donder
04-24-2016, 02:11 PM
Welp, I was wrong about the Simon signing. He's dreadful.

Who knew how unrealistically optimistic those predicting he'd be a 6.00 ERA starter were?

So what'll it be? DL? Released? Makes next start? Moved to bullpen?

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:12 PM
The product the Reds are putting on the mound is an absolute joke, which is really a shame because offensively, at least so far, they're pretty good with the capacity to get better.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:14 PM
Together, these show us a pitch Simon used twice as often in 2015 than in 2014 was significantly less effective at generating swings and misses. While some swings might generate ground balls, generally these pitches out of the zone are simply taken for balls.Earlier I mentioned Simon’s overall ground ball rate dropped from 48.2% in 2014 to 43.6% in 2015. These pitches being taken for balls, rather than whiffed at or pounded into the ground, is likely the main culprit of Simon’s increased walk rate between 2014 and 2015.

So, can Alfredo Simon recreate his 2014 magic in 2016 with Cincinnati? It’s certainly possible, but fairly unlikely. You can never count on the BABIP gods to be in your favor, Simon has begun losing velocity, and his new go-to pitch is becoming less effective. If he’s to thrive in Cincinnati, he and Mark Riggins will likely need to find a new game-plan that doesn’t involve throwing inside to left-handed hitters, because the book is out!

https://redlegnation.com/2016/03/25/alfredo-simon-redux/

Boy did RedlegNation nail that one.

Red Raindog
04-24-2016, 02:15 PM
But he's eating a whole 3 innings*.


*Maybe

Has he passed Hoover's era?

I on the road and need to know

Kc61
04-24-2016, 02:15 PM
Kind of odd that they removed Simon with two outs there. He just crossed the 70 pitch mark. Wonder if he was on a pitch count.

The unfortunate part of this is that Simon was needed most in April and perhaps early May. While I think he would improve if given more innings, the need for him will be much less when Disco and Bailey come back.

Not sure it would have helped, but it appears that the Reds waited too long and should have signed the veteran stop gap before spring training. Even a rubber arm needs spring training.

'69
04-24-2016, 02:15 PM
This coddling of Cozart's playing time is completely annoying.

10652

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 02:16 PM
Remembering that first year under Krivsky (2005?) when we saw every junk pitcher in baseball and the many number of moves made with the same result. This remind me of that. Not fondly.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:17 PM
Has he passed Hoover's era?

I on the road and need to know
Nope, Simon at 16.39 ERA to Hoover's 19.50 ERA.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:18 PM
Kind of odd that they removed Simon with two outs there. He just crossed the 70 pitch mark. Wonder if he was on a pitch count.

The unfortunate part of this is that Simon was needed most in April and perhaps early May. While I think he would improve if given more innings, the need for him will be much less when Disco and Bailey come back.

Not sure it would have helped, but it appears that the Reds waited too long and should have signed the veteran stop gap before spring training to give the guy a chance to be ready.

I honestly don't see how you can have any optimism left for Simon.

His ship has sailed.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:22 PM
Fans are not going to be patient for long when they hear of all these wonderful arms in the minor leagues and the big club trots out dreck on the mound game after game.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:23 PM
Fans are not going to be patient for long when they hear of all these wonderful arms in the minor leagues and the big club trots out dreck on the mound game after game.
True, but Disco and Homer coming back should help immediately.

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 02:26 PM
Schebler is a free swinger...

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:26 PM
True, but Disco and Homer coming back should help immediately.

Yeah they'll help for sure. Then the question becomes can Moscot, Straily, and even Simon be effective in the pen. And if not, then what?

tomnuetten
04-24-2016, 02:27 PM
the schebler fanbase isnīt growing since opening day... I hope it wasnīt on an all time high after spring training...

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 02:28 PM
Yeah they'll help for sure. Then the question becomes can Moscot, Straily, and even Simon be effective in the pen. And if not, then what?
Simon probably not. Straily I think so. Moscot maybe (lucky me gets to see him start Wednesday here in NYC). The bullpen will be a challenge this year, no doubt. Basically just keep churning and see who sticks.

_Sir_Charles_
04-24-2016, 02:30 PM
I, for one, have seen MORE than enough of Simon this year. This is what I expected to see during his tenure in Detroit and why I was thrilled when we dealt him. Smoke and mirrors is what we saw during his "all-star" season. Considering the sorry state of the Reds bullpen, I guess it's worth a look to see if he can somehow contribute down there...but I highly doubt it at this point. I'd rather see Cingrani starting at this point instead of Simon...and that's saying something as I don't see Tony as a starter anymore either. But at least he's got some upside.

If we had even some remotely plausible options for the bullpen...I'd be more than happy to see Simon kicked to the curb.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:35 PM
Simon probably not. Straily I think so. Moscot maybe (lucky me gets to see him start Wednesday here in NYC). The bullpen will be a challenge this year, no doubt. Basically just keep churning and see who sticks.

They need to fast track some of these guys. Guys in the minors they see as relievers like Davis or Travieso. I don't think saving service time should be as high a priority with relievers.

HokieRed
04-24-2016, 02:36 PM
First move should be Simon to the pen, Josh Smith to the rotation--unless and until Disco is ready.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:37 PM
First move should be Simon to the pen, Josh Smith to the rotation--unless and until Disco is ready.

No thanks to Josh Smith.

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:40 PM
Not quite a Ferrari yet. Getting there though the last 2 days.

Nissan Maxima

'69
04-24-2016, 02:54 PM
I like Duvall but he looks like he has no clue on the low and away pitches.

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^^ next step 370z :)

Tracy Jones
04-24-2016, 02:56 PM
The Reds team ERA before today stood at 5.39.

If you want a player to team comparison in relation to ERA, that player would be Jumbo, who had a 5.40 ERA before his demotion. So in that aspect, the Reds pitching staff as a whole so far this season is Jumbo Diaz.

Yuck.

Tuff Nut
04-24-2016, 02:58 PM
2.1 innings of scoreless relief for Hayes...and just one walk, which I thought he got squeezed on.

Tuff Nut
04-24-2016, 03:06 PM
And so goes the jinx...HR LaStella to lead off 6th.

Big Klu
04-24-2016, 03:17 PM
So THom sets up all of this stuff about how the game is currently being dominated by younger players, and asks Chris his views. Chris replies, "I have no theory on that." THom says, "Really??" And you just hear the disappointment in his voice.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 03:19 PM
If I'm the Reds, in light of today's game, and this series, I do -- nothing. Even with Simon, as long as he's healthy, if not he can be DL'd.

This is rebuilding. It includes fill in pitchers -- who tend to pitch like fill in pitchers. That's why they are fill in pitchers.

We know that Bailey and Disco will soon be back. When they are ready, the Reds can re-shuffle the pitching somewhat.

The critical thing here is the progress of Duvall, Schebler, Finnegan, Winker at AAA, Peraza at AAA, Stephenson at AAA, Mesoraco off injury. Maybe the new reliever, Ramirez. Let's get Hamilton back and hopefully improving.

You can't change the plan after every bad game. There's no point. And please do not rush anybody. Don't hold them back, but no rushes.

The team will be 9-10, not such a disaster. Hold the fort.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 03:32 PM
Hoover with a clean frame with the opposition up 9 runs. Time to get him some more save opportunities!

JKam
04-24-2016, 03:34 PM
Incredible! Hoover with a clean inning.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 03:36 PM
Let Hoover have another inning.

The blowouts provide low pressure innings for guys. In a win yesterday maybe it helped Cingrani. A loss today, maybe it helps Hoover.

PXShaman
04-24-2016, 03:40 PM
Let Hoover have another inning.

The blowouts provide low pressure innings for guys. In a win yesterday maybe it helped Cingrani. A loss today, maybe it helps Hoover.

Like Thom said, some pitchers it takes a while for them to get going.

I think Price will fudge this up and take him out. Cingrani and Hoover need to get going if we wana stay around .500 since they will end the winning games hopefully.

RedsBrick
04-24-2016, 03:48 PM
10652

Not much. Just trying to focus on something other than the obviously woeful pitching staff.

One of the few bright spots doesn't play 1/4 of the time. Is he that fragile?

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 03:52 PM
Not much. Just trying to focus on something other than the obviously woeful pitching staff.

One of the few bright spots doesn't play 1/4 of the time. Is he that fragile?They obviously are nursing Rocco and Cozart--I think a little too much--so I don't know that's orders from the FO or Price just being careful

Alooohaz
04-24-2016, 03:52 PM
The pitching......sigh, Patience is a virtue.....I think it will shake out w/healthy pitchers and this team will be .500.....bit more.

Big Klu
04-24-2016, 03:52 PM
Not much. Just trying to focus on something other than the obviously woeful pitching staff.

One of the few bright spots doesn't play 1/4 of the time. Is he that fragile?

In a season that is rapidly proving to be a complete washout, it doesn't seem unreasonable to give a player who is less than a year removed from major reconstructive knee surgery a day off in a "day game after a night game" situation.

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 03:54 PM
Walks bases full and goes to the mound. I see no reason to remove him.

Crumbley
04-24-2016, 03:56 PM
Price's coddling of this jabronie couldn't be more pathetic. Get the outs or get the runs.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 03:56 PM
This is Ohlendorf's chance to repay Hoover for that grand slam Hoover gave up that blew up O's ERA.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 03:56 PM
Walks bases full and goes to the mound. I see no reason to remove him.

They need to use another pitcher today in any event. So might as well bring him in here. Hoover looks done for today.

Big Klu
04-24-2016, 03:58 PM
This is Ohlendorf's chance to repay Hoover for that grand slam Hoover gave up that blew up O's ERA.

Well, he gave Soler a hanging curveball on the first pitch, but Jorge took it.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 03:59 PM
Ross is not a spiteful man, he gets the out to keep Hoove's ERA at a cool 15.26

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 04:02 PM
They need to use another pitcher today in any event. So might as well bring him in here. Hoover looks done for today.It was a pressure situation and seeing how Hoover reacted might have been useful. Regardless, Ross did a good job.

Tony Cloninger
04-24-2016, 04:03 PM
The questioning of Devin not playing today on a day game after a night game...after not even a year removed from hip surgery is puzzling.

They are making Hammles look even better with some of these swings on balls way outside and in the dirt....but at least No no-hitter again.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 04:05 PM
I have a feeling Schebler is going to turn into Jesse Winker during this summer.

WVRedsFan
04-24-2016, 04:06 PM
The questioning of Devin not playing today on a day game after a night game...after not even a year removed from hip surgery is puzzling[That's not unusual, but during the week is. I just wonder how fragile these two are. It's concerning.

Kc61
04-24-2016, 04:08 PM
That's not unusual, but during the week is. I just wonder how fragile these two are. It's concerning.

It would be concerning if the Reds played them every day.

Going into this season the Reds said that Cozart and Mesoraco would get a number of days off early in the season.

This is just the effectuation of that plan.

Both had pretty serious injuries.

Big Klu
04-24-2016, 04:08 PM
THom again harps on the fact that the Cubs are so versatile, and willing to play other positions.

Let's look at our own Reds, shall we? Here are the Reds players who have played multiple positions this year:

Suarez -- 3B & SS
Duvall -- LF & 1B
Schebler -- LF & CF
Holt -- CF, LF, & RF
DeJesus -- SS, 2B, & 3B (has also played 1B & LF as a Red)
Pacheco -- 1B, 3B, & 2B (listed on the roster as a C)

Tony Cloninger
04-24-2016, 04:16 PM
That's not unusual, but during the week is. I just wonder how fragile these two are. It's concerning.

I think Cozart has to play a demanding position compared to the others, besides Catcher....so it makes sense for both. At least it is not affecting Cozart in regards to hitting. Devin is pulling anything and everything....not surprised he is not hitting. I think they are playing him with the 2B right behind 2B or something close to that.

I am not too concerned..... yet.

Big Klu
04-24-2016, 04:18 PM
I have a feeling Schebler is going to turn into Jesse Winker during this summer.

You mean the LF at Louisville?

PXShaman
04-24-2016, 04:19 PM
That was ball 4 on Hamilton. This increased strike zone in the 9th inning this year is starting to get on my nerves.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 04:20 PM
We're bad again.

But THANK GOD we don't have to play the Cubs again until the end of June. 7 games, 1 win, 1 close loss, 5 complete blowouts.

_Sir_Charles_
04-24-2016, 04:27 PM
I have a feeling Schebler is going to turn into Jesse Winker during this summer.

Is Kremchek performing the plastic surgery? If so, RIP Mr. Schebler.

Larry Schuler
04-24-2016, 04:38 PM
I'll take being 9-10. With the clobberings we've received so far, it feels like we are doing much worse.

Tom Servo
04-24-2016, 04:51 PM
Votto's OPS is back above .600. Progress.

Raisor
04-24-2016, 05:02 PM
That's not unusual, but during the week is. I just wonder how fragile these two are. It's concerning.

I think it's the plan.

I think it's a good plan and not concerning at all.

'69
04-24-2016, 05:16 PM
If I'm the Reds, in light of today's game, and this series, I do -- nothing. Even with Simon, as long as he's healthy, if not he can be DL'd.

This is rebuilding. It includes fill in pitchers -- who tend to pitch like fill in pitchers. That's why they are fill in pitchers.

We know that Bailey and Disco will soon be back. When they are ready, the Reds can re-shuffle the pitching somewhat.

The critical thing here is the progress of Duvall, Schebler, Finnegan, Winker at AAA, Peraza at AAA, Stephenson at AAA, Mesoraco off injury. Maybe the new reliever, Ramirez. Let's get Hamilton back and hopefully improving.

You can't change the plan after every bad game. There's no point. And please do not rush anybody. Don't hold them back, but no rushes.

The team will be 9-10, not such a disaster. Hold the fort.

Not such a disaster? Maybe not a disaster when you are expecting to be utterly dominated, but for goodness sakes: their record means nothing, they did not come close to playing respectable major league baseball against a division rival at home.

Raisor
04-24-2016, 05:25 PM
Not such a disaster? Maybe not a disaster when you are expecting to be utterly dominated, but for goodness sakes: their record means nothing, they did not come close to playing respectable major league baseball against a division rival at home.

Welcome to the rebuild.

wally post
04-24-2016, 07:56 PM
Yes it hurts. Have to find small victories within the losses. It'll be fun to see Votto rebound and find out if Bruce can keep his inprovement going (among other things)

Sea Ray
04-24-2016, 07:56 PM
Welcome to the rebuild.

I get this is a rebuild and all but what purpose is served by throwing Simon out there to start today's game? He clearly was not prepared. It's the job of our coaches to prepare the players for what's expected of them. Our coaches look like idiots for subjecting us to Simon today. Ditto for JJ Hoover but that's another discussion. It served our rebuild no good to have Simon last less than 3 innings today and put us in an insurmountable hole.

RedsBrick
04-24-2016, 09:44 PM
I get this is a rebuild and all but what purpose is served by throwing Simon out there to start today's game? He clearly was not prepared. It's the job of our coaches to prepare the players for what's expected of them. Our coaches look like idiots for subjecting us to Simon today. Ditto for JJ Hoover but that's another discussion. It served our rebuild no good to have Simon last less than 3 innings today and put us in an insurmountable hole.

Agree.

To your point regarding the highlighted section, Simon had given up 8 runs in less than 3 innings, so at that point of an out-of-reach game he's taking one for the team, as far as I'm concerned, and continuing to pitch in some attempt to save the innings on the 'pen. I don't care if the score gets to be 20-0.

RedTeamGo!
04-24-2016, 09:45 PM
I have to agree with Sea Ray, Simons serves no purpose on this team. Hopefully he is released when Homer comes back.

757690
04-24-2016, 09:57 PM
Price is blaming the late start for Simon's woes.


Zach Buchanan
‏@ZachENQ Zach Buchanan Retweeted Steve Mancuso
I doubt the Reds would mind the 5.00 ERA version. Price is saying the late start has led to the 16.39 ERA version

Price mentioned this as a factor. Said it doesn't help guys to wait until March to sign.Zach Buchanan added,
Ray Price (KE4YOG) @RayPrice20
@ZachENQ Possible that his shorter Spring training causes issue now? Entering dead arm period?

Sea Ray
04-24-2016, 10:02 PM
Agree.

To your point regarding the highlighted section, Simon had given up 8 runs in less than 3 innings, so at that point of an out-of-reach game he's taking one for the team, as far as I'm concerned, and continuing to pitch in some attempt to save the innings on the 'pen. I don't care if the score gets to be 20-0.

In fairness to Simon, he is coming off an injury and I don't think he physically could have pitched much more w/o risking further injury.

Sea Ray
04-24-2016, 10:04 PM
Price is blaming the late start for Simon's woes.

If that's the case then Price needs to own up to his role in all of this. It was poor judgment on his part to start Simon. I think Simon should be moved to the pen. There his horrible pitching will fit right in. ;)

Seriously, give him one last chance to stay in the major leagues as a reliever. If he continues to stink it up then he goes. Simple as that

Maldez
04-25-2016, 08:48 AM
I get this is a rebuild and all but what purpose is served by throwing Simon out there to start today's game? He clearly was not prepared. ...

No wonder we got him for nothing....I have recently become Afraid O' Simon.

redsrule2500
04-25-2016, 10:24 AM
We're bad again.

But THANK GOD we don't have to play the Cubs again until the end of June. 7 games, 1 blowout win, 1 close loss, 5 complete blowout losses.

Fixed this^^^ !!

Raisor
04-25-2016, 12:56 PM
I never wanted Simon in the first place, and will be quite happy if he's released today.

RedsBrick
04-25-2016, 01:43 PM
In fairness to Simon, he is coming off an injury and I don't think he physically could have pitched much more w/o risking further injury.

So they put a guy out there who they didn't think could give them more than 3 innings? Just bad decision upon bad decision after....

Sea Ray
04-25-2016, 04:56 PM
So they put a guy out there who they didn't think could give them more than 3 innings? Just bad decision upon bad decision after....

Yeah, that pretty well covers it. It's like throwing the ball into RF after bobbling it