April 25, 2016 - Reds @ The "Hallelujah not the Cubs" Mets - 7:10pm ET

[androosh]

Reds:

Cozart SS
Suarez 3B
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Mesoraco C
Duvall RF
Schebler LF
Iglesias P
Hamilton CF


Mets:

Granderson, RF
Wright, 3B
Conforto, LF
Duda, 1B
Walker, 2B
Cabrera, SS
De Aza, CF
d’Arnaud, C
Syndergaard, RHP

[Ron Madden]

Hmm Duvall in RF, thought maybe he'd be in LF with Schebler in RF.

No big deal though

[PuffyPig]

Hmm Duvall in RF, thought maybe he'd be in LF with Schebler in RF.

No big deal though

Duvall has been surprisingly good in the field.

Apparently he'd graded out so far as the best fielding LF. Presumably small sample size .

[Ron Madden]

Duvall has been surprisingly good in the field.

Apparently he'd graded out so far as the best fielding LF. Presumably small sample size .

I thought he made a nice play at 1B late in the game yesterday also..
I believe his defense is better than advertised..

[Sea Ray]

Interesting they're trying him in right. This gives them options in the future if Winker comes up and Bruce goes...

[kaldaniels]

The inevitability of tonight turns my stomach. I'll be tuning in of course. At least I can see what the Thor hype is about.

[Tom Servo]

Syndergaard is freaking good.

[Ron Madden]

Syndergaard is freaking good.

Yes He Is..

[Tom Servo]

Joey why

[OnBaseMachine]

The Votto check swings are getting old.

[Tom Servo]

Iggy strikes out leadoff man Granderson on 3 pitches.

[Tom Servo]

Struck out Wright, but gave Conforto an ill-conceived belt high fastball. Gone. 1-0 Metropolitans.

[OnBaseMachine]

Great tailing action on that fastball to K Wright.

Just as I was about to comment on how great Iglesias looks early, he falls behind in the count and grooves one to Conforto for a HR.

[Tom Servo]

Lefties getting to Iglesias after those first two outs. Conforto's HR, now singles by Duda and Walker. Tapper by Asdrubal Cabrera ends the inning without further damage.

[OnBaseMachine]

Another single on a 2-0 count. Reds pitchers should try a new strategy - working ahead in the count.

[Ron Madden]

The Reds are gonna win this game..

[Tom Servo]

The Reds are gonna win this game..
We didn't win a single game against the Mets last year :/

[PXShaman]

Didn't the Mets sweep us twice last year?
I don't think we will have any fun in gamethread till end of May.

[Ron Madden]

We didn't win a single game against the Mets last year :/

That was then.. This is now.. Haha

[kbrake]

I have Syndergaard on my DraftKings team. We'll get to him.

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Devin, run into one of those 96 mph fastballs from Thor and knock it over the wall.

[JKam]

Syndergaard's fastball is potent.

Makes me miss Aroldis.

[Tom Servo]

Alright, infield single by Mesoraco, Wright just got a glove on it down the line. Now we're cookin.

[PXShaman]

I hear Duvall likes to hit fastballs.

[RedTeamGo!]

Hopefully that is the beginning of the mesorection.

[Tom Servo]

99 mph fastball on the outside edge. Oof.

92 mph slider.

[JKam]

Phillips running like a rabbit!

[Tom Servo]

Ugh, BP steals 3rd but Schebler pops up a fastball down the middle and can't get the run in.

[OnBaseMachine]

Schebler has been disappointing so far.

[Ron Madden]

C'mon Iggey

[Tom Servo]

Iglesias with better contact than Duvall and Schebler, but still not enough. The rally fizzles out.

[Tom Servo]

lol what was that Joey

[OnBaseMachine]

Falls behind 3-0 and grooves one for another rocket. Poor fielding attempt by Votto.

[Ron Madden]

Falls behind 3-0 and grooves one for another rocket. Poor fielding attempt by Votto.

Shoulda got in front of the ball

[kbrake]

Votto channeling his inner Roger Dorn on that ball.

[Kc61]

Just to defend Votto, the ball was ripped, he didn't really have time to move and get behind it. So he just threw the glove out there hoping the ball would find it.

Correctly called a base hit.

Carry on.

[Tom Servo]

Just to defend Votto, the ball was ripped, he didn't really have time to move and get behind it. So he just threw the glove out there hoping the ball would find it.

Correctly called a base hit.

Carry on.
It looked a lot better on replay, in real time all I saw was Votto doing a barrel roll.

[Tom Servo]

http://www.reviewatlas.com/storyimage/ZZ/20151019/SHAREABLE/151019873/AR/0/AR-151019873.jpg

[Tom Servo]

ah man, Granderson hits it right back to Iglesias, but it bounces off his glove for a hit. 1st and 3rd with two outs for David Wright.

[OnBaseMachine]

Another play that should have been made.

[Rantly]

Iglesias with better contact than Duvall and Schebler, but still not enough. The rally fizzles out.

Part of the future of the Reds with those 2 guys, I know it is SSS but not that excited about either right now.

[Tom Servo]

Iglesias K's Wright to end the threat. He could use a 1-2-3 inning or two.

[Tom Servo]

Billy with the pop-up bunt for a single!

[Ron Madden]

Would love to see Billy do that more often

[OnBaseMachine]

Perfectly placed bunt by Billy.

[JKam]

If Phillips can steal 2 bases, Billy ought to be able to steal 3!:)

[Tom Servo]

Billy steals 2nd and 3rd, still with no outs.

[Kc61]

As pointed out in an article today, Billy's offensive numbers are showing some signs.

His walk rate is about 11 percent. Just my recall but in his last full game he hit a number of grounders, which is good.

Got to give him more rope, he's such a weapon on the bases and a great defender.

[Ron Madden]

Run Billy Run!!!

[Tom Servo]

Tie game on a sac fly by Cozart. Billyball.

[Donder]

Billy run.

[Tom Servo]

Honestly kinda worried Votto won't even OPS .600 this month. And we thought the .700 or so in May last year was disappointing. :/

[JKam]

Helluva a pitch by Syndergaard to get Votto.

[KYRedsFan]

Gotta swing the bat there

[Big Klu]

I hate Keith Hernandez! Hate him!

[Tom Servo]

Duda kills us, always. 3-1 Mets.

[Ron Madden]

Honestly kinda worried Votto won't even OPS .600 this month. And we thought the .700 or so in May last year was disappointing. :/

He doesn't even look like Joey Votto with all the check swings.. He looks confused up there

[OnBaseMachine]

Iglesias just throwing pitches right down the middle.

[BluegrassRedleg]

To whoever is doing advanced scouting on Duda for the Reds: You're doing it wrong.

[Tom Servo]

He doesn't even look like Joey Votto with all the check swings.. He looks confused up there
He looks like he got his talent stolen by aliens, Space Jam style.

[klw]

To whoever is doing advanced scouting on Duda for the Reds: You're doing it wrong.

New approach: do the opposite!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUvKE3bQlY

[Tom Servo]

The left-handers have given Iggy trouble tonight. I wondered if this was a past trend I hadn't picked up on, but he hasn't had significant split-issues last year or so far this year, so I guess it's just one of those nights.

[Ron Madden]

That had to break somethin..Looks like his hand.. wow!

[DocRed]

Damn...Brandon hit 3 times that AB. Wonder if Price does anything....

[Tom Servo]

BP replaced by De Jesus.

[JKam]

OUCH!

[Gainesville Red]

That's a tough AB. Jeez.

[kaldaniels]

If Thor wants to throw inside like that I'm throwing at the exact same spot when he bats.

Sorry.

[Ironman92]

Horse crap Syndergaard. Phillips has to have broken bones in his hand from that.

He hits anyone else they should charge the mound, but they might want to take their bat because he's a big one

[Ironman92]

Damn...Brandon hit 3 times that AB. Wonder if Price does anything....

/chews gum without blinking

[Big Klu]

Thor bats left-handed, which means his right arm is exposed.

I absolutely hit him there.

[OnBaseMachine]

Welcome to Cincinnati, Jose Peraza.

[Tom Servo]

Wonder if Jose Peraza's spidey-senses are tingling in Norfolk where the Bats are playing tonight?

[kaldaniels]

Thor bats left-handed, which means his right arm is exposed.

I absolutely hit him there.

I mean am I crazy in thinking BP's smart antics on the basepaths may have led to up and in?

[Ironman92]

Thor bats left-handed, which means his right arm is exposed.

I absolutely hit him there.

Wish we still had Jumbo

[BigRedVA]

Good news: not the Cubs
Bad news: we're still the Reds

[Ron Madden]

I don't think he hit him on purpose

[Ironman92]

I mean am I crazy in thinking BP's smart antics on the basepaths may have led to up and in?

Man I hope not.....stealing a base hurts his feelings, he could have ended his season

[Big Klu]

I mean am I crazy in thinking BP's smart antics on the basepaths may have led to up and in?

Then Thor needs to learn how to hold runners a little closer. His own broadcaster, Keith Hernandez (I hate Keith Hernandez!), said that today's pitchers would have no idea how to handle a team like the Cardinals from the 80's.

[Rantly]

I mean am I crazy in thinking BP's smart antics on the basepaths may have led to up and in?

"smart antics", the fact he stole a base or something else?

[kaldaniels]

Man I hope not.....stealing a base hurts his feelings, he could have ended his season

I think BP got under his skin with all the dekes. Now he gets hit.

Was he trying to hit him? I doubt it. But we have seen this before with Noah with Escobar in the Series.

[Kc61]

BP was hit on the hand. Not the usual way to plunk somebody. I think it was more of a brushback.

Meanwhile, as I said in another thread, Schebler right now is looking more and more like Winker's eventual replacement at Louisville.

[PXShaman]

Well Phillips OK season is ruined.

How many times has Phillips season ended or gone from good to bad after aHBP?

[Ron Madden]

Might as well have plunked him if you're gonna put him on anyway..lol

[Kc61]

Well Phillips OK season is ruined.

How many times has Phillips season ended or gone from good to bad after aHBP?

Was there a report on BP?

[Big Klu]

I question the intestinal fortitude of this club sometimes.

[OnBaseMachine]

Walks the pitcher after going 3-0 on the #8 hitter. What a frustrating pitching staff.

[Tom Servo]

I would point to David Wright as an example of why the Reds were smart not to sign Frazier to a big deal into his late 30s.

[RedsfaninMT]

Puzzing that Peraza has not been pulled from the Bats game.

[kaldaniels]

Jim Day Thor Lovefest.

[Ron Madden]

I question the intestinal fortitude of this club sometimes.

I don't want Iggey throwin at the Mets..He'd get thrown outta the game and possibly suspended. The more innings Iggey pitches the less we have to see this bullpen

[PXShaman]

Watching Billy take a ball, is like watching votto walk. He has least done that this year.

[Tom Servo]

Eugenio...oof.

[texasdave]

Through five, the Reds have just 3 infield singles. Still, just a bloop and a blast from tying things up.

[Big Klu]

Don't tell me that Thor didn't throw at Hamilton without intent in that last AB.

[Rantly]

LOL Duvall

[Red Raindog]

Eugenio...oof.

He doesn't remind me of Todd Frazier

[Tom Servo]

Nice pick by Cozart and stretch by Votto.

[tomnuetten]

no broken bones for bp

[Ron Madden]

No broken bones for Phillips

[Big Klu]

I don't want Iggey throwin at the Mets..He'd get thrown outta the game and possibly suspended. The more innings Iggey pitches the less we have to see this bullpen

It's more than just that. It's an overall vibe I get about the team, and I think it starts with the skipper.

[Tom Servo]

Pretty sure Thor was getting that inside fastball as a strike

[OnBaseMachine]

That was clearly strike three.

[Ironman92]

Can someone nicely just give me the quick trick to how Cozart has a higher avg than OB% ?

[RedsfaninMT]

Can someone nicely just give me the quick trick to how Cozart has a higher avg than OB% ?

Nicely? OK, good to see you posting. He has two SF,and I believe 0 walks.. There you go. Have a pleasant evening.

[Big Klu]

Totally off topic, but after watching Mark Riggins jog out to the mound, I realize that I miss the old-style Reds team jackets.

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[Ron Madden]

Can someone nicely just give me the quick trick to how Cozart has a higher avg than OB% ?

Sacrifices

[Tom Servo]

Can someone nicely just give me the quick trick to how Cozart has a higher avg than OB% ?
A wizard did it.

[Big Klu]

Can someone nicely just give me the quick trick to how Cozart has a higher avg than OB% ?

A sacrifice fly counts as 0-for-1 against OBP, but 0-for-0 against batting avg.

[Big Klu]

Well, Geno's going to get thrown at the next time he's up.

[tomnuetten]

Votto :cry:

[Big Klu]

Ivan Ivanovich with a sharp single to RF!

[Tom Servo]

Officially changing my avatar to help Votto, just gotta find a good picture.

[Ron Madden]

Officially changing my avatar to help Votto, just gotta find a good picture.

Please Hurry

[Big Klu]

Ivan Ivanovich is going to get thrown at the next time he's up.

[Tom Servo]

Damn, great pitch. But I really wanted Mesoraco to come through there.

[OnBaseMachine]

Duvall has no chance against Syndergaard.

[TheBigLebowski]

It's just not fun to watch this team.

[Tom Servo]

Well... Syndergaard is really good. Reds have had their chances.

[PXShaman]

You know Bruce is thinking, "I could of brought them home."

[membengal]

The slider is unfair.


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[The Operator]

Duvall had no chance whatsoever in that at bat. Everybody including him knew what was coming, no difference.

This lineup is painful to watch against quality pitching.

[Tracy Jones]

Duvall has no chance against Syndergaard.

Mesoraco has no chance against anybody

[Big Klu]

Officially changing my avatar to help Votto, just gotta find a good picture.

How about this one?

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mst3k/images/3/32/Tom-servo-mystery-science-theater-3000-28510227-640-468.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121114230507

[Tracy Jones]

Syndergaard trying to bunt. Throw at him. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

[Tracy Jones]

Duvall had no chance whatsoever in that at bat. Everybody including him knew what was coming, no difference.

This lineup is painful to watch against quality pitching.

The everyday lineup currently has 5 guys with an OPS+ over 100.

The exceptions? Billy, Mesoraco, and Votto.

Mesoraco's OPS+ is 10.

[TheBigLebowski]

Tyler holt

[Tom Servo]

Mets announcers calling him Brock Holt.

[PXShaman]

We are about to have a steal display.

[Big Klu]

Tyler Holt with a seeing-eye single to RF, then goes to second on an errant pickoff attempt, E1.

Holt will get thrown at the next time he's up.

[The Operator]

I'd really love to see them get to Syndergaard here. He's a tool.

[Big Klu]

Mets announcers calling him Brock Holt.

I've called him that once or twice.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was a nice AB and cut by Hamilton. Guy just had him played perfectly.

[Kc61]

Considering that the Reds' offense, defense and pitching are suspect these days, and that they are losing, they've played some good ball tonight.

Lot of smart, aggressive base running. Couple of hits here and there. Reds pitchers have done ok.

Not too unhappy tonight.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Considering that the Reds' offense, defense and pitching are suspect these days, and that they are losing, they've played some good ball tonight.

Lot of smart, aggressive base running. Few hits here and there. Reds pitchers have done ok.

Not too unhappy tonight.

Agree. Look like a competitive MLB team, not that crew that showed up for most of the Cubs series.

[Tom Servo]

If you don't believe in the Cozart Revolution you can get out of my damn face

[Tracy Jones]

Why are all you Reds fans so salty? Syndergaard throws inside like any good pitcher should. It's not like he was throwing at Phillips lmfao. Learn the sport instead of being sad your team sucks.

He threw at Hamilton Einstein

[Ron Madden]

Rbi cozart!!!

[Fil3232]

Cozart is money

[Tom Servo]

I've called him that once or twice.
I was calling the Rays rookie Blake Snell "Ian Snell" the other day. Ian hasn't pitched since 2010.

[The Operator]

They're gonna pitch around Suarez and go after Votto.

[Ironman92]

Thanks on the AVG/OB%....didn't feel like thinking

Not pitching inside when Syndergaard was bunting....how about they just give up

[Tom Servo]

They're dissing you, Joey.

[The Operator]

And that's exactly what they did. Can't remember the last time a team pitched around someone else to get to Joey. Definitely wouldn't happen if Joey wasn't all-time bad right now.

[Tom Servo]

And that's exactly what they did. Can't remember the last time a team pitched around someone else to get to Joey. Definitely wouldn't happen if Joey wasn't all-time bad right now.
On second thought, maybe Bastardo is just doing his Cingrani impression.

[JMO]

6 straight balls and Joey swings at ball 3. Changed entire bat

[OnBaseMachine]

After missing badly with his first six pitches, Votto swings at ball 3 in the dirt.

[Ron Madden]

Joey looks unsure of himself up there maybe he's thinkin too much

[BluegrassRedleg]

VOTTO!

We're tied at 3-3.

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto RBI single!

[JMO]

OK Joey, I see ya.

[The Operator]

Joey!!!

That's what you get, Collins!!

[Ron Madden]

WTG Joey !!!

[The Operator]

BOOOOOOOO Mets fans BOOOOOOOO

[Ironman92]

As a manager I really am just not ever going to pull an ace type pitcher with the lead or tie except extreme situations.

[DocRed]

Thanks Terry!

[Tracy Jones]

Nice outing by Bastardo. A Reds bullpen worthy appearance.

[The Operator]

As a manager I really am just not ever going to pull an ace type pitcher with the lead or tie except extreme situations.Yea but this particular manager got burned by that in the World Series. See Harvey, Matt.

Hopefully it gave him the yips.

[Rantly]

Nice job Joey...no win for Thor

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Ivan the Jesus

[Tracy Jones]

As a manager I really am just not ever going to pull an ace type pitcher with the lead or tie except extreme situations.

People on this site were calling it "abuse" when Finnegan threw the same amount of pitches in the same amount of innings against the Cubs in Wrigley.

[UPRedsFan]

Yea but this particular manager got burned by that in the World Series. See Harvey, Matt.

Hopefully it gave him the yips.

107 pitches? Even Thor needs to pace himself for a long season to be able to pitch in October.

[Tom Servo]

Reds can't pull ahead, but they did tie it up.

[The Operator]

No win for Syndergaard. Aw shucks.

[Tracy Jones]

That's always nice to see after you claw back to tie the game...a leadoff walk.

[Ron Madden]

Let's turn two!!!

[Tracy Jones]

Awfully nice bounce back vs Duda though

[Tom Servo]

that'll happen

[BluegrassRedleg]

When did we get to the point in baseball where we thought 100 pitches was a lot for a healthy guy?

[JMO]

Welp, thats it

[Ron Madden]

Damn that was crushed!

[The Operator]

Jesus Christ

This bullpen is a dumpster fire

[Tracy Jones]

Welcome to the Reds bullpen JC

[Tom Servo]

Neil Walker has 8 HRs? Good lord.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The Bullpen de Suck rolls on.

[KYExtemper]

Chalk another one up to the bullpen.

[Big Klu]

Well, I guess Ramirez fits right in with the rest of the bullpen.

[Red Raindog]

Jesus Christ

This bullpen is a dumpster fire

I think most of us saw it coming -- still stings and leaves a mark every time though

[Tom Servo]

Anybody else notice the trend of Price asking relievers to go two innings only for the pitcher to blow up in the second inning? I know somebody's gotta fill those innings, but maybe he should stop pushing his luck.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Ever notice how a lot of these Reds bullpen clowns don't bear down and make pitches until after they give up a big one?

[Rantly]

Walker has always killed us

[TheBigLebowski]

Gonna be fun speculating about a top 3-5 pick for a second straight year.

[The Operator]

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[Ron Madden]

We were hangin right with the defending NL Champs till the bullpen shows up..

[Tracy Jones]

When did we get to the point in baseball where we thought 100 pitches was a lot for a healthy guy?

When they found out that adhering to strict pitch counts greatly reduced arm injuries.

Oh wait...

[Tom Servo]

I still think JC Ramirez can be pretty good. But check back in with me if/when he does this 2-3 more times in the next month.

[Kc61]

I don't blame Ramirez. He pitched three scoreless last time. Now he's asked to go multiple innings again.

I understand the stress on this bullpen, the need for multiple innings. But if you keep asking Ramirez to go two to three innings, he's going to give up some runs.

True for most relievers.

[Tracy Jones]

Schebler is fantastic

[TheBigLebowski]

Schebler is quickly turning back into a pumpkin.

[Ron Madden]

I'm starting to lose all faith in Scott Schebler

[Tracy Jones]

I don't blame Ramirez. He pitched three scoreless last time. Now he's asked to go multiple innings again.

I understand the stress on this bullpen, the need for multiple innings. But if you keep asking Ramirez to go two to three innings, he's going to give up some runs.

True for most relievers.

He gave up a leadoff walk. That never ends well. He did just fine other than that and the bomb of course.

Had nothing to do with multiple innings. How often did people complain when Chapman was always limited to one inning?

[Tom Servo]

Should be noted too that as easy as it is to blame the bullpen, Iglesias didn't exactly do his job tonight. The pitching all around has to get better. I think it will, but it's a rebuild and there will be growing pains.

[The Operator]

Cotham with a little chin music. Mets fans don't like it when it happens to their guys.

[Tom Servo]

He gave up a leadoff walk. That never ends well. He did just fine other than that and the bomb of course.

Had nothing to do with multiple innings. How often did people complain when Chapman was always limited to one inning?
Bruh there's a bit of a difference between asking a guy with a 6.04 ERA in the majors to go more than one inning and asking Aroldis Chapman to go more than one inning.

[Mutaman]

I'm starting to lose all faith in Scott Schebler

I lost all faith in him last week when that fellow bergman struck him out on an 89 mph fast ball down the pipe with the winning run on third and nobody out.

[Tom Servo]

Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 29s29 seconds ago
It's a boy for Jay and Hannah Bruce. Carter Bruce born at 9:08 p.m. #reds


Congrats Jay! Shake it off!

[Ron Madden]

Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 29s29 seconds ago
It's a boy for Jay and Hannah Bruce. Carter Bruce born at 9:08 p.m. #reds


Congrats Jay! Shake it off!

Congratulations to Jay Bruce and family..

[Tracy Jones]

Bruh there's a bit of a difference between asking a guy with a 6.04 ERA in the majors to go more than one inning and asking Aroldis Chapman to go more than one inning.

Not really. At least not according to the statement I quoted. The point is it had nothing to do with multiple innings. It had everything to do with a leadoff walk and an ill timed meatball.

I agree, relievers should go multiple innings, particularly your best ones. And just based on pure stuff, Ramirez is probably the best we have.

[Freak25]

Tyler Holt was busting it down the line.

[PXShaman]

Billy was almost to first on that slice.

[Freak25]

Cozart will save us.

[The Operator]

Nice strike zone

[PXShaman]

Nice AB by Hamilton, just keep it up, you will hit em were they ain't eventually, or walk.

[Tom Servo]

Ah well, I can live with these types of games. We got some play for our money as it were. The only think I can't stand are regular blowouts like we saw against the Cubs.

[The Operator]

Hardly a wimper

[Freak25]

That's what you call "High Heat". :cry:

[PXShaman]

Ah well, I can live with these types of games. We got some play for our money as it were. The only think I can't stand are regular blowouts like we saw against the Cubs.

It was a good game against the losing World series team. Against one of the best pitchers right now in baseball. This team did great, some great at bats, and some great hits when we needed it.

But the Mets announcers want Bruce as far away from this series as they can get.

[fondfoat]

Hey. We played well. There was no disgrace in that result tonight. No need to get negative about this performance.

[BenHayes]

Probally not going to win in New York, might get a win in Pittsburgh though to round out April with 10 wins on par for 60!

[Ron Madden]

Probally not going to win in New York, might get a win in Pittsburgh though to round out April with 10 wins on par for 60!

If the the starters can continue to turn in games like the one tonight the Reds will win more than 60 games.. Reinforcements are on the way.

[Gotham City]

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