5/17/16 6:10 PM Reds @ Cleveland

[klw]

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Nice Lineup

Cozart SS
Hamilton CF
Votto 1B
Phillips DH
Bruce RF
Suarez 3B
Duvall LF
Peraza 2B
Barnhart C


Simon P
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DH Santana
2B Kipnis
SS Lindor
1B Napoli
3B Ramirez
C Gomes
RF Chisenhall
LF Byrd
CF Davis

P Salazar



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[Tom Servo]

Glad that Peraza is playing if he's going to be up here for the time being. Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

[TheBigLebowski]

If the lineup produces less than 13 runs it's all a moot point.

[lollipopcurve]

Been waiting for Price to give Peraza a start at 2B.

[757690]

The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

[klw]

Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

That was my question but it appears the two options for the second spot are Hamilton and Suarez. They both have swung well in the 2 spot but Hamilton appears to be the less sure of a thing and therefore keep him at 2 to not mess with his vibe, Suarez can likely hash it better.

Other option would be to go Hamilton 1, Suarez 2 and drop Mr. Cozart and his OBP=BA to the 6 spot.

[CySeymour]

Glad that Peraza is playing if he's going to be up here for the time being. Don't get why you move Suarez out of the #2 hole with the way he's been swinging it the last few days.

Or dropping Duvall all the way to 7th with the way he's been hitting.

[cumberlandreds]

If the lineup produces less than 13 runs it's all a moot point.

They need 16. Thirteen wouldn't have been enough last night.

[TheBigLebowski]

They need 16. Thirteen wouldn't have been enough last night.

My hope is that the 16 was a data point. I fully believe these guys can hold the tribe to 13.

[toledodan]

Or dropping Duvall all the way to 7th with the way he's been hitting.

SS and CF have to bat 1-2 dude :evil:

[OnBaseMachine]

The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

I believe you are reading way too much into this.

I don't understand taking Suarez out of the #2 spot.

[Tom Servo]

Nothing doing after 1, the only baserunner a long single by Lindor for the Tribe.

[OnBaseMachine]

Man I love Francisco Lindor's game.

[757690]

I believe you are reading way too much into this.

I don't understand taking Suarez out of the #2 spot.

I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

[Tom Servo]

BP walk, Bruce single to right to start the 2nd.

[OnBaseMachine]

I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

On what basis?

[757690]

On what basis?

They had a chance to play him at SS when they rested Cozart. They started De Jesus. But they had no problem playing him in CF, which he has little experience, and now at 2B. If they thought he could handle it, they would have given him a chance to play it.

[Tom Servo]

Suarez Ks, Duvall fouls out to catcher. Not looking so hot for this inning.

Peraza grounds out to 2nd, Reds can't make Salazar pay.

['69]

I'm reading that the Reds don't feel that Peraza is ready to play SS in the majors yet. Maybe that's too much, but that's what I'm reading.

Isn't his arm at SS the issue?

[OnBaseMachine]

They had a chance to play him at SS when they rested Cozart. They started De Jesus. But they had no problem playing him in CF, which he has little experience, and now at 2B. If they thought he could handle it, they would have given him a chance to play it.

Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

[757690]

Isn't his arm at SS the issue?

That is what the scouting reports said when he was in the Braves organization.

[Ron Madden]

I heard or read somewhere..
The only reason Peraza didn't play SS Sunday was Price had told De Jesus a few days before that he would start @ SS on Sunday..
De Jesus' Mother was in town to watch him play.

But who knows.

[757690]

Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

Then why didn't they play him there when they rested Cozart?

[Tom Servo]

Yan Gomes almost homers but it's just a long single.

[757690]

I heard or read somewhere..
The only reason Peraza didn't play SS Sunday was Price had told De Jesus a few days before that he would start @ SS on Sunday..
De Jesus' Mother was in town to watch him play.

But who knows.

Okay. Thanks. I did not hear that. That could explain it.

[OnBaseMachine]

Then why didn't they play him there when they rested Cozart?

Because Bryan Price decided to play De Jesus.

[757690]

Because Bryan Price decided to play De Jesus.

Rom Madden solved the mystery. But it was a very unique reason.

[Chuckie]

Awful to not get the catcher there. Bruce has to do better than a 2-hop throw there. 1-hop at the most.

[Tom Servo]

1-0 Indians after a pair of singles with two outs following Gomes' single. Decent throw by Bruce, but it bounced too much and Barnhart couldn't catch it.

[Ron Madden]

The throw looked to be in time to get him at home but the ball got away from Tuck.

[Chuckie]

1-0 Indians after a pair of singles with two outs following Gomes' single. Decent throw by Bruce, but it bounced too much and Barnhart couldn't catch it.

Not a "decent" throw for MLB RF standards. High school RF? Perhaps.

[Tom Servo]

Simon working at a snail's pace.

[Chuckie]

The throw looked to be in time to get him at home but the ball got away from Tuck.

Nearly impossible bounce for Barnhart. Bruce can't throw a worm-burner there.

[Tom Servo]

Not a "decent" throw for MLB RF standards. High school RF? Perhaps.
Itching for an argument, eh. It was slightly short, it was still very much playable.

[Chuckie]

Itching for an argument, eh. It was slightly short, it was still very much playable.

No, I'm watching the game and pointing out the obvious. That was a bad throw. No need for a 2-hop throw there.

[Tom Servo]

No, I'm watching the game and pointing out the obvious. That was a bad throw. No need for a 2-hop throw there.
Zach Buchanan ‏@ZachENQ 4m4 minutes ago
That was a nice throw by Bruce, but Tucker couldn't handle it. Indians lead 1-0

Go after the beat writer, not really interested in the endless back and forth right now.

[Chuckie]

Bruce's D continues to hurt Simon. Inning should be over.

[Ron Madden]

Nearly impossible bounce for Barnhart. Bruce can't throw a worm-burner there.

You're making the throw a lot worse than it was.

[Chuckie]

2-0 Tribe. That might do it.

[Tom Servo]

Bruce's D continues to hurt Simon. Inning should be over.
Are you serious? Who blames the outfielder for not nailing a runner at home plate when you have a bad pitcher giving up rocket singles to the outfield?

[Chuckie]

You're making the throw a lot worse than it was.

Watch the replay again and tell me how that's a good throw from a MLB right fielder. It was bad.

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Are you serious? Who blames the outfielder for not nailing a runner at home plate when you have a bad pitcher giving up rocket singles to the outfield?

With a catcher running with two outs who should have been gunned down? Inning over with any sort of good throw.

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Bruce's bad throw costs the Reds 3 runs. 4-0 Tribe. Ballgame.

[Red Raindog]

This is getting out of hand early -- and my head still hurts from the early drinking during last night's game

[Tom Servo]

4-0 Indians.

Anytime Simon wants to get out of the Spring Training mode I've been hearing about for weeks, I'm ready.

[50YrRedsFan]

Gonna be a long night at the ballpark......especially if the bullpen comes in early.

[757690]

4-0 Indians.

Anytime Simon wants to get out of the Spring Training mode I've been hearing about for weeks, I'm ready.

Last two starts were fine.

[tomnuetten]

simon is great.. if only bruce wouldn´t be that bad he´ll win the cy

[Chuckie]

Last two starts were fine.

Defense played well behind him. Which helps. But let's just blame everything on Pasta when our RF can't throw the ball to home plate on one hop from shallow RF.

[50YrRedsFan]

All this without Brantley in the lineup.

[Chuckie]

simon is great.. if only bruce wouldn´t be that bad he´ll win the cy

Hilarious! That was so funny. Well played!

[Ron Madden]

Watch the replay again and tell me how that's a good throw from a MLB right fielder. It was bad.

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With a catcher running with two outs who should have been gunned down? Inning over with any sort of good throw.

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Bruce's bad throw costs the Reds 3 runs. 4-0 Tribe. Ballgame.

It wasn't that bad of a throw but I'm not gonna argue with you.

[757690]

Defense played well behind him. Which helps. But let's just blame everything on Pasta when our RF can't throw the ball to home plate on one hop from shallow RF.

Nah, Simon stinks today. Bruce and Tucker didn't help, but they aren't giving up ropes.

[Chuckie]

Nice catch Billy. That's an outfielder getting his job done defensively. Inning finally over.

[tomnuetten]

Hilarious! That was so funny. Well played!

your accusations towards bruce for everything he does defensively (no mather how good or bad they are) are even more funny though...

[Chuckie]

Nah, Simon stinks today. Bruce and Tucker didn't help, but they aren't giving up ropes.

Inning still should have been over with only 1 run scoring. Not saying Pasta is good. But I'm also saying Bruce definitely isn't good defensively. At least he's hitting well so we can flip him for a good prospect or two near the deadline.

[50YrRedsFan]

I was going to get tickets for the Dodgers series in LA next week, but I'm reconsidering. Not much to watch from the Reds side.

[Chuckie]

your accusations towards bruce for everything he does defensively (no mather how good or bad they are) are even more funny though...

Thank you. Also: Check the defensive stats for Jay. You'll be amazed. (If you're in the camp that thinks he's good defensively.)

[Chuckie]

Salazar isn't giving up more than 3 runs tonight. I hope everyone is looking forward to the NBA Draft lottery tonight because this game is over.

[Chip R]

Get a room, you two.

[Tom Servo]

Thank you. Also: Check the defensive stats for Jay. You'll be amazed. (If you're in the camp that thinks he's good defensively.)
Who is arguing anything about his defense? We have a thread in the ORG about that. All we are talking about is the throw. It was fine. It wasn't perfect, but it was playable, and Barnhart couldn't find the handle. It doesn't really matter when the pitcher is giving up uncatchable ROCKETS to the outfield every damn hitter in the lineup.

[Chuckie]

Who is arguing anything about his defense? We have a thread in the ORG about that. All we are talking about is the throw. It was fine. It wasn't perfect, but it was playable, and Barnhart couldn't find the handle. It doesn't really matter when the pitcher is giving up uncatchable ROCKETS to the outfield every damn hitter in the lineup.

No, it wasn't fine. It was bad. A 2-hopper that gives the catcher almost no chance of catching the ball is not a good throw. A good RF throws that ball on the fly or with one hop max. Not a fine throw. Just a bad one. Especially for an MLB RF.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. Or we can keep disagreeing. Whichever.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'm so ready to say goodbye AGAIN to Simon. I can't recall a Reds pitcher I've disliked more outside of Majewski.

[_Sir_Charles_]

The fact that thE Reds are okay with Peraza playing 2B in the majors, but not SS, is revealing.

Not really IMO. I think it's pretty well known that 2b is his better position by far.

[OnBaseMachine]

Simon's bad pitching has the Reds in a 4-0 hole.

[Red Raindog]

Simon's bad pitching has the Reds in a 4-0 hole.

correction -- 6-0 now

:help:

[Reds Fanatic]

6-0 now. 21-6 the last two nights.

[Tom Servo]

Give me John Danks, he can at least go 5-6 innings.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Yeah you're reading way too much into this. Shortstop is his natural position.

Disagree. 2b is his natural position. Range is excellent, foot work is average, hands are average, arm is below average. At least that's what I've read/heard. If someone can show me otherwise...I'm open to listening.

This just in....Simon sucks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Make it 7-0.

[TheBigLebowski]

Can't any of these jackasses get Rajai Davis????

[Ron Madden]

Damn Jay Bruce it's 7-0 now

[tomnuetten]

and where is all the talk about peraza not able to get the ball?

inning would have been long over... poor simon

[Tom Servo]

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[Reds Fanatic]

Delabar warming up. We need a rainout for about a month straight

[klw]

I went away for a bit. Came back 7 runs later. I may go away for a bit again.

[TheBigLebowski]

I HATE this team. Hate it.

[Tom Servo]

You know, this team was doing a lot better before Thom came back.

[Rantly]

Give me John Danks, he can at least go 5-6 innings.

3rd or 4th time I've seen you mention Danks...cousin or something?

[TheBigLebowski]

Votto. Just blech.

[Tom Servo]

3rd or 4th time I've seen you mention Danks...cousin or something?
I just think he's halfway competent, certainly better than Simon. He'll give up runs, but he'll go several innings, something Simon's fans told us was his calling card. Not so much.

[BenHayes]

I don't know about Bruce but can't imagine professional players like Phillips or Votto giving a damn day after day of this crap!

[Tom Servo]

You know, we could always change the forum name to TribeZone and act like we've always been Cleveland fans and I don't think much of the outside world would notice.

[Ron Madden]

I think everybody in Cleveland has a hit off Simon..

[WVRedsFan]

I don't know about Bruce but can't imagine professional players like Phillips or Votto giving a damn day after day of this crap!Maybe it's just me, but I can almost see it. If night after night you have little chance of winning or even competing, it's easy to throw up your hands and just go through the motions. The fact that this team traded away all the starters and depended on non-proven players (injuries happen and they knew homer was iffy) for starters and relief is tantamount to a large insult to Reds fans.

['69]

Well finally able to watch and Simon deals a 1-2-3 inning.

Hay

['69]

Lol @ Chuckie, take every skill on this teams D, it would rank, 1. Hamilton's speed, 2. BP's hands, 3. Bruce's arm

[KronoRed]

You know, this team was doing a lot better before Thom came back.

He and Simon can catch the same bus out of town.

['69]

Maybe it's just me, but I can almost see it. If night after night you have little chance of winning or even competing, it's easy to throw up your hands and just go through the motions. The fact that this team traded away all the starters and depended on non-proven players (injuries happen and they knew homer was iffy) for starters and relief is tantamount to a large insult to Reds fans.

You know when a team has quit on itself and haven't seen it, yet, to their credit.

[WVRedsFan]

Sounds like Thom knows Riggleman is the next manager and is preparing everyone in advance.

[Tom Servo]

Salazar is good, but it looks like the Reds have packed it in for the night.

[WVRedsFan]

Chris Welsh calls out the Reds' defense for not giving a lot of effort.

['69]

One of those games, one of those series, one of those seasons. Getting to know 'em well.

[BenHayes]

Maybe this is playing into Mr. Williams overall plan.Get Votto, Phillips and Bruce so POed they will gladly accept a trade to anywhere on the planet thus saving even more money to spend on analytics.

[WVRedsFan]

I've never seen anything like this. Ever.

[50YrRedsFan]

I've never seen anything like this. Ever.

I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

[Red Raindog]

I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

I was going to post the same thing! - We're old

[BCubb2003]

I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

"Can't anybody here play this game?"

['69]

I have...I saw the 1962 Mets.

They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

[WVRedsFan]

I was around in 62, but I believe this is worse.

[Red Raindog]

They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

they went 40-120

[Tom Servo]

You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

[Roy Tucker]

Delabar has the yips.

['69]

:help:


they went 40-120

[Red Raindog]

You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

yet

[50YrRedsFan]

I feel sorry for Barnhart...having to catch these so-called pitchers. They throw a pitch, but have no clue where it's going. Barnhart jumping all over to try to catch, or at least stop the ball.

['69]

You guys, we're not even the worst team in the league lol

Yeah, when do the reds play that team?

[WVRedsFan]

I think I've seen enough to know, they are phoning it in now. Totally.

[Red Raindog]

ump needs to greatly expand the strike zone to put this thing mercifully to bed

[Tom Servo]

Delabar was walking like 8 guys per 9 innings in AAA, really not sure what they were expecting here.

[tomnuetten]

I blame Bruce, he should stand behind the plate with a sign showing the strikezone... perhaps they could throw a strike than...

[KronoRed]

Yeah, when do the reds play that team?

June 13-16 vs Atlanta, winner gets some expired hot dogs, loser gets contracted.

[Roy Tucker]

ump needs to greatly expand the strike zone to put this thing mercifully to bed

This isn't little league. At least in one of the dugouts.

[Red Raindog]

This isn't little league. At least in one of the dugouts.

post of the night

[50YrRedsFan]

They lost a ton, was it as ugly though...

It was laughable....no opponent took them seriously. It was a clown show. I can say one thing...the pitching was not THIS bad.

[The Operator]

LOL.

This is the most pathetic display I've ever seen.

[Ron Madden]

I think I've seen enough to know, they are phoning it in now. Totally.

I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe the players or coaching staff have thrown in the towel...
This team is just cursed with terrible pitching right now.

['69]

Poor Price, good lord

[BCubb2003]

These walks don't just haunt, they steal your soul.

[Red Raindog]

amazing

[50YrRedsFan]

I don't think Delabar has it tonight.

[Raisor]

I don't like Mondays

[Roy Tucker]

I know this isn't Price's fault, but his days are numbered. The Reds are looking for a dead cat bounce.

[Tom Servo]

I don't think Delabar has it tonight.

"We just got to get Delly going again, I know he can throw the ball better than we have seen."

[The Operator]

I don't think Delabar has it tonight."I think you can go get him now..."

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[WVRedsFan]

I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

[50YrRedsFan]

Isn't there any position player on the Reds that has a pitching background? Put him in. It's not a joke now....the jokes have already been on the mound.

[Red Raindog]

It was laughable....no opponent took them seriously. It was a clown show. I can say one thing...the pitching was not THIS bad.

Mets team ERA - 5.04 -- they walked 571 in 1430 innings

[757690]

Since the Reds lead 4-0 yesterday, they have given up 25 runs.

[redsfanmia]

I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

Did he honestly think they could get guys out or were they the best of a bad situation?

[Red Raindog]

I don't like Mondays

Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

[redsfanmia]

Isn't there any position player on the Reds that has a pitching background? Put him in. It's not a joke now....the jokes have already been on the mound.

Then they blow out their arm like Jose Conseco.

[TheBigLebowski]

I. Hate. This. Team.

['69]

Soon to be 3-14 on the road, that's remarkable.

[The Operator]

Wilson Valdez would be the ace of this bullpen.

[Roy Tucker]

Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

I got Friday on my mind.

[tomnuetten]

it´s 2am but I just don´t want to go to bed... I might miss a comeback ;)

[westofyou]

Uncle

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[Raisor]

I'll say this and it's the only time you'll hear it from me, but I really feel for Price. He thought these guys could get people out and there is not a consistently dependable pitcher in that dugout. They'll be lucky to win 60 games.

You do understand that the front office handles who is on the roster, right?

[BCubb2003]

Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

"Call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday is just as bad."

[Roy Tucker]

Salazar is wearing high tops?

[Raisor]

Tuesdays haven't been much of an improvement

For some reason that old Boomtown Rats song was going through my head.

#Geldof

[50YrRedsFan]

Mets team ERA - 5.04 -- they walked 571 in 1430 innings

Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

[Raisor]

I. Hate. This. Team.

You don't HAVE to watch. You might have a problem.

[Tom Servo]

This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I left for a bit. Am I reading this box score right? Delebar came in and struck out one guy and walked FIVE?!? Wouldn't you think after the 3rd one, you'd yank him? Certainly you can't leave a guy in after 4 in one inning...right? Wow.

I'll be honest, I've been a mild defender of Bryan Price. I know at some point he's got to leave a guy in because the bullpen is extremely overtaxed...but this almost looks like forfeiting a game IMO.

Oh, and by the way...Simon STILL sucks.

['69]

It's going to be tough to eclipse getting no hit and losing 16-0 at home

[tomnuetten]

a walk, didn´t see that coming...

[westofyou]

This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

As an ineffective manager

[BCubb2003]

This just feels like Bryan Price's last game.

It makes as much sense as firing Fredi Gonzalez.

[Red Raindog]

Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

the Mets did give up 147 unearned runs too

[TheBigLebowski]

You don't HAVE to watch. You might have a problem.

Who said I was?

[WVRedsFan]

You do understand that the front office handles who is on the roster, right?Well, "with the advice of the field manager" is what I've heard forever, but no matter, whatever combination they have now is a product that is not totally Bryan Price's fault. That's what I was trying to convey.

[westofyou]

Reds ERA before tonight was 5.34. So it will jump higher. Reds on pace for over 660 walks for the season.

Cool, their team record is 659 (in 2000)

[_Sir_Charles_]

Lol @ Chuckie, take every skill on this teams D, it would rank, 1. Hamilton's speed, 2. BP's hands, 3. Bruce's arm

I'd put Cozarts' footwork ahead of Bruce's arm and Barnhart's arm ahead of Jay's too.

[Red Raindog]

For some reason that old Boomtown Rats song was going through my head.

#Geldof

swish -- missed that one :)

[Raisor]

Who said I was?

So I guess every twent minutes or so you wander in here to say how much you hate the team? Feel free to register for RaisorZone so I can permaban you. ;)

[Crumbley]

Blake Wood is shaking out there. These guys are so scared to throw strikes. And they are 100% right to be.

[redsfanmia]

Well, "with the advice of the field manager" is what I've heard forever, but no matter, whatever combination they have now is a product that is not totally Bryan Price's fault. That's what I was trying to convey.

I doubt Price has much input in the roster.

[Tom Servo]

I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.

[Red Raindog]

Salazar is wearing high tops?

might be to keep the "stuff being displayed" on the field out of his shoes

[50YrRedsFan]

the Mets did give up 147 unearned runs too

Reds on pace for about 85 unearned runs.

[The Operator]

I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.I prefer to laugh. Crying is the alternative.

[Red Raindog]

Reds on pace for about 85 unearned runs.

it's early

[Roy Tucker]

The NBA draft lottery is on. I'm watching that. The Reds have sunk to new lows on my TV viewing.

[_Sir_Charles_]

WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

[RedsfaninMT]

I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.

[westofyou]

I mean, you have to admit this is kind of funny.

Constant beat downs always traverse into the root of absurdity and that is right in most peoples chuckle zone, hence the Amazing Mets

[Roy Tucker]

76ers, Lakers, Celtics

[Red Raindog]

WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

I vote Pacheco

[westofyou]

I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.
If he's toast he's like the heel end of a the worst loaf of diet bread ever made

[_Sir_Charles_]

Tonight...Reds pitchers have thrown 160 pitches in 6 innings. Only 90 for strikes.

And with that being said...it's 13-0 now. Color me unimpressed thus far with Peraza's defense.

[WVRedsFan]

I just came in and went immediately to the Game Day thread. Last post I saw about the score was at 6-0. I refused to look, but by folks comments, it was clear that 6-0 was not the case anymore. I flip to GameCast. 12-0? Holy crap!

I predict Bryan Price is done after tonight. Not a fair firing, but I think he is toast.Won't happen yet. By the AS game, maybe.

[The Operator]

13-0 the beatdown continues.

['69]

I'd put Cozarts' footwork ahead of Bruce's arm and Barnhart's arm ahead of Jay's too.

I will concede Cozart's footwork.

Peraza looked a bit goofy there.

[Big Klu]

WLW crew pondering which position player Price will bring in to pitch.

When the time comes...

"Now pitching, #15, Jordan Pacheco."

[50YrRedsFan]

76ers, Lakers, Celtics

Those used to be the powerhouses. The mighty have fallen. Time marches on.

[Tom Servo]

Jose still needs more AAA time.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I will concede Cozart's footwork.

Peraza looked a bit goofy there.

Agreed on Peraza. IMO Tucker's got the best arm behind the dish the Reds have seen since Johnny. He's got a rifle, an accurate one and he's got an incredibly quick pop to throw. I enjoyed the hell out of watching Ryan Hanigan back there, but Tucker's even better.

[_Sir_Charles_]

When the time comes...

"Now pitching, #15, Jordan Pacheco."

Personally, I want to see Tyler Holt come in...to play center and let Hamilton pitch. Just for giggles.

[Red Raindog]

Personally, I want to see Tyler Holt come in...to play center and let Hamilton pitch. Just for giggles.

hasn't he had shoulder issues?

['69]

Meh. I'd rather watch this than NBA anything.

[Tom Servo]

I miss Joey Votto.

[tomnuetten]

call me crazy and I know its a little bit early but I do have a feeling that the reds won´t come back in this game...

[Raisor]

Constant beat downs always traverse into the root of absurdity and that is right in most peoples chuckle zone, hence the Amazing Mets

ChuckleZone better stay away from RaisorZone

[_Sir_Charles_]

hasn't he had shoulder issues?

was it his throwing shoulder?

I obviously don't want to see anyone injured. And Jay continues to hit. Price sees this and immediately pulls Jay for Holt. :O) I kid.

[Kc61]

Agreed on Peraza. IMO Tucker's got the best arm behind the dish the Reds have seen since Johnny. He's got a rifle, an accurate one and he's got an incredibly quick pop to throw. I enjoyed the hell out of watching Ryan Hanigan back there, but Tucker's even better.

The only thing that matters is the future-oriented players.

If Peraza looks unready in the field, that matters.

Whether Simon or Delabar can pitch anymore is just not important.

Unfortunately -- for a rebuilding team -- Reds have precious few future-oriented-players on the roster. Due to injury and the need for more seasoning. Once more of them come back or up to the club, it will be more interesting.

[Red Raindog]

call me crazy and I know its a little bit early but I do have a feeling that the reds won´t come back in this game...

oh ye of little faith

[The Operator]

Fun fact, I also use a 26" bass drum on my kit.

Mine's not quite as beaten down as Mr. Adams' though.

[50YrRedsFan]

The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight going into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?

[Tom Servo]

Two hits for Bruce, hitting .276/.331/.504 right now on the year.

[BenHayes]

Tyler Holt will pitch a perfect 8th to hold it at 13.

[Red Raindog]

was it his throwing shoulder?

I obviously don't want to see anyone injured. And Jay continues to hit. Price sees this and immediately pulls Jay for Holt. :O) I kid.

don't remember -- I was trusting you to have the answer / ducks for cover

[tomnuetten]

oh ye of little faith

screw me... we´re back in this game ;)

[The Operator]

Meanwhile the Reds have loaded the bases. At the very least, please erase the shutout.

['69]

It begins...

:laugh:

[Red Raindog]

Tyler Holt will pitch a perfect 8th to hold it at 13.

so you are assuming no runs in the bottom of the 7th......

[Tom Servo]

The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight doing into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?
I mean, Salazar IS really good. He's actually allowed only 22 hits in 42.2 innings going into tonight. The Indians offense is not good, it's pretty bad to get run out of the building by them.

[tomnuetten]

only 12 to go

[The Operator]

Duvall! Holy crap a run.

13-1

[_Sir_Charles_]

REDS SCORE!!! Back within triple slam range!

[Tom Servo]

Here we go baby!!!!!!!

[The Operator]

REDS SCORE!!! Back within triple slam range!"Gotta keep 'em out of triple slam rage, dude..."

http://d29zunrt9sid73.cloudfront.net/speakermedia/350x350/19117.jpg

['69]

Fun fact, I also use a 26" bass drum on my kit.

Mine's not quite as beaten down as Mr. Adams' though.

Ludwig Classics, Bonham kit?

[Raisor]

The pitching has been sooooooo bad, the offense hasn't been mentioned. 1 hit tonight going into the 7th inning. Votto now down to .213 average with 0 for 3.
It can't get worse, can it?

3rd in the NL in RS in May!

Look on the bright side! It's not all bad!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Holt in right, DeJesus to short, Pacheco to first, Cingrani on the bump.

Cozy, Bruce & Votto out.

[The Operator]

Ludwig Classics, Bonham kit?Affirmative.

Gotta love the giant sound of a 26" kick.

['69]

Affirmative.

Gotta love the giant sound of a 26" kick.

Thunderous!
I have a 24" Sonor kit

[Tom Servo]

Wait, Thom considers Houston a small-market team?

Uh...

[Crumbley]

What in the blue hell is Thom talking about

[RedsBrick]

I used to hate off days. Now I can't wait for the next one.

[The Operator]

Thunderous!
I have a 24" Sonor kitNice! One of my favorite drummers, Tomas Haake, plays Sonor. They sound great.

Always nice to see other drummers around here.

[Mutaman]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Wait, Thom considers Houston a small-market team?

Uh...

Cool. I always loved living in a small town. It just seems friendlier. Nice to know I'm right where I wanted to be. Houston...small town livin. LOL.

[The Operator]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?Correctamundo.

[WVRedsFan]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?He did. It was the worst I've ever seen, even in Little League.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

While that alone is impressive...I'm more impressed by the fact that Price could restrain himself from pouncing out of the dugout after the 2nd one. Must've been napping. :O)

[BCubb2003]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

It was OBP's greatest hour.

['69]

Does the 4th largest city just not like baseball?

[Red Raindog]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

well he didn't hit any batters

[RedsBrick]

...and to think the Reds were only -50 in run differential going into last night. We were THAT close...

[_Sir_Charles_]

well he didn't hit any batters

Price just didn't give him any leeway. That quick hook didn't allow him to really show his stuff. ;)

- - - Updated - - -

LOL. Such a blowout that the AL team is letting the pitcher HIT. hehehe.

[klw]

I went away for a bit. Came back 7 runs later. I may go away for a bit again.

I am back. They only gave up 6 more runs this time.
https://media.giphy.com/media/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW/giphy.gif

[Ron Madden]

Tuck with a double

[Raisor]

Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

[Big Klu]

Not only has the Tribe scored 13 runs, they've left 12 on base!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

Jon Snow. Wait...what?

[_Sir_Charles_]

Just curious...does the Mercy Rule apply to major league games too?

[westofyou]

Who's going to die on Agents of shield tonight?

I'd rather watch 69th and Vine watch nba games than watch any super hero fantasy show

[_Sir_Charles_]

I'd rather watch 69th and Vine watch nba games than watch any super hero fantasy show

LOL. That was great. :O)

[WVRedsFan]

Thom giving my friend, Huggs, love and kudos,

[Dom Heffner]

Let me get this straight-- He walked 4 guys with the bases loaded?

I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

[Big Klu]

Jon Snow. Wait...what?

Nah, it'll be Glenn.

[Red Raindog]

I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

what kind of friend drops a text like that on someone?

[_Sir_Charles_]

I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

Just remember, you're understating Delebar's accomplishment. He actually walked one other guy in order to load the bases in the first place.

Even Edinson Volquez was impressed.

['69]

A 2002 vintage Reese Witherspoon is on FX

[klw]

I just had a friend text me this. I came to this thread to type the exact same thing you did.

Walked 4 guys. With the bases loaded.

Unreal.

My question is "did any of the Indians swing during this period and if so were they benched?"

[_Sir_Charles_]

A 2002 vintage Reese Witherspoon is on FX

I'm guessing either Legally Blonde or Sweet Home Alabama.

[Ironman92]

Thom about slipped up pretty big coming back from commercial to start bottom of the 8th....too bad they caught it

[_Sir_Charles_]

My question is "did any of the Indians swing during this period and if so were they benched?"

One strikeout came after the first walk. BB,K,BB,BB,BB,BB and THEN Price got the hint.

['69]

I'm guessing either Legally Blonde or Sweet Home Alabama.

Yessir, Sweet

[Dom Heffner]

what kind of friend drops a text like that on someone?

He dropped it and ran, too.

I said "No way."

Silence.

[The Operator]

Ross Ohlendorf should not be allowed to wear Jose Rijo's jersey number. That's a crime.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Oh well...no AL pitcher hitting.

I don't remember Juan Uribe being that big.

[The Operator]

Thom about slipped up pretty big coming back from commercial to start bottom of the 8th....too bad they caught itWife and I noticed the same thing.

Wish we could have heard it.

[klw]

I looked things up on mlb.com. What is truly impressive is that all 4 walks came with a full count! Anyone can get crazy Rick Ankiel wild and miss the barn from 5 feet away but this was a full count each time! That takes some skill and luck! Now after the previous 3 batters walked with the bases loaded, Chisenhall swung at the first pitch. Unless it was cleared from the bench they should have benched him on the spot.

[Dom Heffner]

Just remember, you're understating Delebar's accomplishment. He actually walked one other guy in order to load the bases in the first place.

Even Edinson Volquez was impressed.

I didn't realize this. The 5th walk.

Here's what I hope: I hope the players in the draft next year are better than the pickings this year.

I also hope the Braves get better.

[Mutaman]

Redleg's management comments on the state of affairs:



https://youtu.be/5ypUz1WYens

[klw]

To top things off, I made mixed vegetables in the microwave for dinner and added beans to the mix. The beans are not good.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I looked things up on mlb.com. What is truly impressive is that all 4 walks came with a full count! Anyone can get crazy Rick Ankiel wild and miss the barn from 5 feet away but this was a full count each time! That takes some skill and luck! Now after the previous 3 batters walked with the bases loaded, Chisenhall swung at the first pitch. Unless it was cleared from the bench they should have benched him on the spot.

You should've seen Tucker. He was all over the place diving for balls. Nobody had any idea where the ball was going to go.

['69]

Bob's not so bad, I'm telling ya

[klw]

I didn't realize this. The 5th walk.

Here's what I hope: I hope the players in the draft next year are better than the pickings this year.

I also hope the Braves get better.

Even if the Braves get better, the Reds won't "pass" them. By the break the Reds will get Bailey, Desclafani, Iglesias back and Reed will be up. Lorenzen, Adelman or Finnegan will be in the pen. The Reds will go .500 after the break.