May 19, 2016 Cleveland @ Reds 7:10ET

[klw]

Reds lineup:
Cozart 6,
Hamilton 8,
Votto 3,
Phillips 4,
Bruce 9,
Suarez 5,
Duvall 7,
Barnhart 2,
Adleman 1


Mo Egger ‏@MoEgger1530 2h2 hours ago

With the Ohio Cup clinched, does Francona sit his starters tonight?

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20160518178876948?game_pk=447476

The Reds and Indians will wrap up the annual Ohio Cup series on Thursday with Cincinnati rookie Tim Adleman squaring off against Cleveland right-hander Josh Tomlin, who is looking to lead the Tribe to a four-game sweep.

Tomlin (5-0, 3.82 ERA) is coming off three straight starts of at least six innings pitched. In his last outing against the Twins, Tomlin fell victim to the long ball, allowing four runs on three home runs.
...
• Three of the Reds' most productive hitters this season, Jay Bruce, Zack Cozart and Brandon Phillips, have had quite a bit of success against Tomlin. Over the last five seasons, the three are a combined 11-for-27 against the right-hander with one home run and four RBIs.

[Ron Madden]

I hope Adleman will be pitch efficient and the Reds offense can light up the scoreboard. A win sure would feel good right about now..

[Reds Fanatic]

They finally get Davis out. Nice pitch on the corner

[Reds Fanatic]

2 out walk to Lindor

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Lindor steals 2nd

[Reds Fanatic]

Santana strikes out swinging. 2 Ks.

[50YrRedsFan]

Will the Reds pitch a game this year with no walks?

[Chip R]

Will the Reds pitch a game this year with no walks?

That's like asking if the sun will come up in the west.

[Reds Fanatic]

Infield hit for Cozart

[Reds Fanatic]

Billy grounds into a 1-6 FC

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out swinging

[50YrRedsFan]

Votto strikes out swinging
Will the real Joey Votto please come back.

[Tom Servo]

2014 hobbled, injured Votto struck out 49 times in 62 games.

2016 Votto has struck out 44 times in 41 games.*

*41st game still ongoing


This is concerning.

[50YrRedsFan]

Phillips flies out to end the 1st. no score.

[50YrRedsFan]

*41st game still ongoing




This is concerning.
Season 1/4 gone already.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice running catch by Bruce. An easy 1-2-3 inning for Adleman

[Tom Servo]

Jay improving his dWAR

[Reds Fanatic]

Bruce strikes out looking

[50YrRedsFan]

Bruce strikes out looking

Jay didn't agree with the ump on that call.

[Reds Fanatic]

Duvall grounds out to short. 0-0 after 2

[Tom Servo]

Duvall grounds out to short. 0-0 after 2
Pretty sharply hit, Lindor is v. good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gimenez strikes out swinging. 3 Ks for Adleman

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Tomlin singles to center

[Reds Fanatic]

Davis grounds out to 1st. Could have been a DP if Votto could have fielded that cleanly

[Reds Fanatic]

Kipnis grounds out to 1st. 0-0 mid 3rd

[Tom Servo]

Not an extremely pitch efficient first three innings from Adleman, though not disastrous either. He's at 59.

[Reds Fanatic]

Barnhart hit it hard but grounds out to 3rd

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds go down 1-2-3. 0-0 after 3

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds making it easy for Tomlin...7 pitch 3rd inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart makes a nice stop but then unloads a wild throw into the dugout. Should have just kept the ball there

[Tom Servo]

Cozart...why

[50YrRedsFan]

Not a pretty play by Cozart

[Reds Fanatic]

Santana homers to right center. Adleman's 4th inning issues continue

[Tom Servo]

welp

[50YrRedsFan]

Well, that could be enough the way Tomlin is pitching.

2-0 Indians

[Reds Fanatic]

Ramirez walks

[kbrake]

I'm officially frustrated/concerned whatever the right word is with Votto. Brutal season from him so far. I've only reached this level with him a few times and he always immediately turns it around. Alright Joseph time to get it going.

[Reds Fanatic]

Should have been an easy DP but Phillips boots it. 1st and 3rd

[Tom Servo]

lol

[50YrRedsFan]

What can you say?

[Reds Fanatic]

Oh boy. It looks Adlelman is hurt

[Ron Madden]

Brandon has messed up a few double play balls this season

[Reds Fanatic]

Seriously whatever the Reds did to piss the baseball gods off. We apologize.

[Tom Servo]

He's hurt. The team is cursed bruh.

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Looks like an oblique injury to me.

[Reds Fanatic]

He is out. Did not even try to throw

[50YrRedsFan]

And another one bites the dust.......

[Reds Fanatic]

Cotham in. 5+ innings of this bullpen is going to be brutal

[BCubb2003]

Cozart has some pitching experience, doesn't he?

[Tom Servo]

http://www.thecoli.com/media/dj-khaled-another-one.6093/full

[50YrRedsFan]

Cozart has some pitching experience, doesn't he?

It doesn't matter at this point.

[Reds Fanatic]

4-6-3 DP to end the inning. 2-0 Indians mid 4th

[Tom Servo]

That turned out better than expected.

[Tracy Jones]

That turned out better than expected.

With the 2016 Reds, you can say that anytime the opposing team gets runners on base and they don't score

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton lines a double to the right field corner

[Tom Servo]

Nice Billy!

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto homers to center!!! Tie game

[Donder]

Will the real Joey Votto please come back.

As you wish.

All you had to do was ask politely.

[Tracy Jones]

Billy with a leadoff 2B...gotta get at least 1 here...or 2 with Votto!

[Ron Madden]

Joey ties the ballgame!!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

That is the best looking swing we have seen from Votto in some time

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

['69]

Will the real Joey Votto please come back.

Yes, for an at bat at least!

[WVRedsFan]

I swore I wouldn't watch tonight after last night's disaster, but I tuned in about inning three and this just proves I am an addict and need help. I do wonder why we've seen so many oblique injuries on this team. Anyone got a clue.

Votto just jacked one!!! Well, enough of the you know what and moaning, guys.

[Rantly]

I Love 1st pitch swinging Votto

[texasdave]

2014 hobbled, injured Votto struck out 49 times in 62 games.

2016 Votto has struck out 44 times in 41 games.*

*41st game still ongoing


This is concerning.

In Joey's last 3 spring training games, he went 9-11 with a walk. I thought he was dialed in.

[Tracy Jones]

I swore I wouldn't watch tonight after last night's disaster, but I tuned in about inning three and this just proves I am an addict and need help. I do wonder why we've seen so many oblique injuries on this team. Anyone got a clue.

Votto just jacked one!!! Well, enough of the you know what and moaning, guys.

Kremchick. #obligitory

[Reds Fanatic]

Suarez reaches on and goes to 2nd on a wild throw by Lindor

[50YrRedsFan]

Suarez on 2nd after a Lindor error.

[Tracy Jones]

Oh good. Back to back nights of Sampson

[Reds Fanatic]

Duvall pops out to 2nd. 2-2 after 4

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Joey Votto, who has tied Hall-of-Famer Barry Larkin for tenth place on the Reds all-time home run list!


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 216
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
9. Eric Davis - 203
10. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Joey Votto - 198
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[50YrRedsFan]

I don't have much confidence in Sampson.

[Rantly]

Oh good. Back to back nights of Sampson

Not many options

[Tracy Jones]

Not many options

Well there's.....

And there's.....

I got nothing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tomlin doubles to left.

[50YrRedsFan]

Cotham stays in for the 5th.

[Tom Servo]

lol

[WVRedsFan]

The screen just went black. The team has already broken the TV

[Tracy Jones]

That's a good way to keep the momentum going...

[Rantly]

Why so many Indian fans in Cincy? Do they really think they are good?

[50YrRedsFan]

Tomlin doubles to left.

Even pitchers can hit meatballs.

[Tracy Jones]

Cotham sucks

[Reds Fanatic]

Rajai Davis doubles in a run. He would be an all star if he faced our pitchers every night

[Rantly]

Oh good. Back to back nights of Sampson

I guess they should have brought him in

[Tom Servo]

Ugh. I preferred the black screen.

[WVRedsFan]

I say just forfeit the rest of the season.

[50YrRedsFan]

Well, it didn't take Cotham long to give up the lead......or tie.

['69]

You might as well just let hoover take his lumps...good gracious

[Reds Fanatic]

Davis steals 3rd

[Reds Fanatic]

Lindor with a bloop hit. 4-2 Indians

[WVRedsFan]

Not gonna have another hangover. See ya!

[Tracy Jones]

Riggins has lost 25 lbs this month walking back and forth from the dugout

[50YrRedsFan]

You get some hope after the Reds score, and then the pitching lets you down again.

[malcontent]

Cleveland unis and helmets are pretty sweet. Love that dark blue.

Now 6-2. What was that about changing the forum name to TribeZone?

[Reds Fanatic]

Santana crushed that pitch. 6-2 Indians

['69]

Glad Pico went out there

[Tracy Jones]

This guy is 100% grade A poo

[Ron Madden]

Cotham sucks

Yep!!!

[Tom Servo]

Honestly not sure how Cotham avoided the shuttle to Louisville in the first place. Be gone with ye.

[50YrRedsFan]

Cotham sucks

Exclamation point !!!!!!

[UKFlounder]

The good news about Cotham is we only gave up Aroldis Chapman to get him....

[Rantly]

Santana crushed that pitch. 6-2 Indians

Who wouldn't, what a meatball

[Rantly]

nm

[TheBigLebowski]

Nm

[The Operator]

Just got home from a late work meeting to see the bullpen has again screwed us.

I reach new levels of hatred every single day with this bullpen.

[Big Klu]

Why so many Indian fans in Cincy? Do they really think they are good?

Probably quite a few from Central Ohio. It's always fun and interesting to see your favorite team as the visiting team in the opponent's ballpark. I have gone to Pittsburgh and Cleveland on multiple occasions to see the Reds play, and I've also made single appearances at Milwaukee, Detroit, and Chicago (South Side) to see the Reds.

[Tom Servo]

It really is incredible how many guys the Reds can get who either have pitched well in the majors before (Cingrani, Hoover, Delabar, Ohlendorf) or the minors (Cotham, Diaz, Somsen) and they all just god awful. Not below average, like a 4.00 or 5.00 ERA, but like 7.00 ERA or worse.

[Tracy Jones]

So all things considered, has the Walt Jocketty reign in Cincinnati been a success in your opinion?

The team obviously got better for awhile in his time (although largely on the backs of players brought in by the previous regime) but this mess that he's got out there now....is his legacy still TBD?

['69]

This one might do it for me for awhile...giving up 42 runs in 3.5 games

[Rantly]

It really is incredible how many guys the Reds can get who either have pitched well in the majors before (Cingrani, Hoover, Delabar, Ohlendorf) or the minors (Cotham, Diaz, Somsen) and they all just god awful. Not below average, like a 4.00 or 5.00 ERA, but like 7.00 ERA or worse.

Especially with a "pitching coach" manager

[Tracy Jones]

3 walks for Cozart in 125 PA's?

That's incredible.

[Reds Fanatic]

This one might do it for me for awhile...giving up 42 runs in 3.5 games

Just wait. We have Seattle this weekend. Then a long road trip starting with the Dodgers. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better

['69]

So all things considered, has the Walt Jocketty reign in Cincinnati been a success in your opinion?

The team obviously got better for awhile in his time (although largely on the backs of players brought in by the previous regime) but this mess that he's got out there now....is his legacy still TBD?

No, alot of folks saw this trainwreck coming two years ago, yet there was no plan to avoid it. The perennial black hole in LF. The abysmal bench throughout his tenure. The non-deals. Banking on AAAA players...

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff hit by Uribe. Human batting practice Sampson is in.

['69]

Just wait. We have Seattle this weekend. Then a long road trip starting with the Dodgers. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better

Well, in that case I'll go another week :)

[Tracy Jones]

No, alot of folks saw this trainwreck coming two years ago, yet there was no plan to avoid it. The perennial black hole in LF. The abysmal bench throughout his tenure. The non-deals. Banking on AAAA players...

I think it depends on what the Stephenson's, Reed, Winker, Ervin, Garrett et all do in the coming years. Not to mention Mesoraco, Votto, and Homer with their large contracts.

[Reds Fanatic]

Davis strikes again. 7-2 Indians

[Mutaman]

People who cover the yankees for a living were pretty unanimous that they gave up zero to get Chappie. I guess the fact that Cotham made the staff out of spring training was a very ominous, yet telling sign.

[The Operator]

lol 7-2

[Tracy Jones]

Batting practice

['69]

How about a trade, any five players from Louisville for Rajai Davis, tonight

[Reds Fanatic]

In one series Davis's average has went from .210 to .259. Opposing players are pratically running to the plate. Another walk

[paintmered]

No, alot of folks saw this trainwreck coming two years ago, yet there was no plan to avoid it. The perennial black hole in LF. The abysmal bench throughout his tenure. The non-deals. Banking on AAAA players...

Yep, there was a growing chorus around here screaming for the Reds to go all in or fold. The Reds chose to call instead for two seasons and bled for it.

[paintmered]

So, what's the MLB record for runs conceded in a single season?

[RedsfaninMT]

If ever I've felt like I made the right choice, not forking over the $ for the baseball package this season ranks right up there. This is miserable. I know it's rebuilding year, but by the end of the month, all these players psyches will be trashed. This is brutal. And I can't (thankfully) even watch.

[texasdave]

So far tonight, the Reds have trotted out to the mound: Tim AAAAdlemAAAAn, CAAAAleb CothAAAAm and Keyvius SAAAAmpson.

[Tracy Jones]

So far tonight, the Reds have trotted out to the mound: Tim AAAAdlemAAAAn, CAAAAleb CothAAAAm and Keyvius SAAAAmpson.

I think you're giving them way too much credit with 4 A's

[RedsfaninMT]

So far tonight, the Reds have trotted out to the mound: Tim AAAAdlemAAAAn, CAAAAleb CothAAAAm and Keyvius SAAAAmpson.

I like it. And they still have CingrAAAAni, RAAAAmirez, DiAAAAz and DelebAAAAr in the pen.

[Reds Fanatic]

another 1-2-3 inning

['69]

nm

[The Operator]

Adelman left with an oblique, eh?

What is it with Reds pitchers and oblique injuries?

[BCubb2003]

So, what's the MLB record for runs conceded in a single season?

Looks like in the modern era it's 1199 by Philadelphia in 1930.

[Tracy Jones]

Adelman left with an oblique, eh?

What is it with Reds pitchers and oblique injuries?

Kremchick

[Reds Fanatic]

yes strained left oblique. Exact same injury as Desclafani

[The Operator]

Sampson throws a pitch at the mascot.

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4 pitch walk to Santana. Makes sense. Can't let him beat you in such a close game.

[Mutaman]

Adelman left with an oblique, eh?

What is it with Reds pitchers and oblique injuries?

it all started with that guy who's name I forget who was a really decent relief pitcher but who was pitching when a long argument took place at first base. he watched the argument instead of staying warm and immediatley strained his oblique when play resumed. Was never the same again. Anyone remember his name.?

['69]

most runs allowd by the Reds, 2004, was 907

That 2004 team holds a few worst pitching records, ERA, home runs

Thank goodness that era is long gone.

[The Operator]

15 years ago Keyvius Sampson would have been known as a flame thrower. My how the game has changed.

[The Operator]

Base hit for Uribe.

[Red Raindog]

So, what's the MLB record for runs conceded in a single season?


after 1900 - I find

1930 Philly 1199 -- 6.71 era

I see I was slow on the "Google"

[Mutaman]

Jared Burton

[Tracy Jones]

15 years ago Keyvius Sampson would have been known as a flame thrower. My how the game has changed.

Sampson could throw 110 and he'd still stink. He's got the control of an alcoholic on St. Patrick's day.

['69]

Griffey Jr. Dual bobblehad night, May 21

Who's going?

:ughmamoru:

[Red Raindog]

Sampson could throw 110 and he'd still stink. He's got the control of an alcoholic on St. Patrick's day.

hey - I resemble that remark

[Rantly]

Jared Burton

He was pretty decent...don't remember the scene you described though

[chicoruiz]

So, if Adelman has to be DL-ed, who's next in the barrel? Josh Smith? Moscot? Mo Sanford?

[The Operator]

Awww. Suarez blows kisses to his mom after hitting home runs.

[Rantly]

Griffey Jr. Dual bobblehad night, May 21

Who's going?

:ughmamoru:
I am

['69]

nm

[50YrRedsFan]

E.S. You have to swing in order to hit the ball.

[Tracy Jones]

So, if Adelman has to be DL-ed, who's next in the barrel? Josh Smith? Moscot? Mo Sanford?

Eric Milton

[The Operator]

So, if Adelman has to be DL-ed, who's next in the barrel? Josh Smith? Moscot? Mo Sanford?Rosario Rodriguez

['69]

I am

I shouldn't mock the giveaways. Enjoy the game.

[Red Raindog]

Eric Milton

another one removed from my will for posting the name that shall not be posted

[BCubb2003]

I kind of feel sorry for these guys. They will have been major-league pitchers, but won't be able to tell anyone about it.

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds with 4 hits through 7.......offense not good either.

[Tracy Jones]

another one removed from my will for posting the name that shall not be posted

At least he was a viable MLB pitcher at one time, which puts him one up on most of the current crew.

[BCubb2003]

Meanwhile, Lincecum is going to the Angels.

[Red Raindog]

At least he was a viable MLB pitcher at one time, which puts him one up on most of the current crew.

doesn't matter -- I've counted to ten and you are out

:p

[Big Klu]

So, if Adelman has to be DL-ed, who's next in the barrel? Josh Smith? Moscot? Mo Sanford?

I figure they will call up Hayes or Somsen to have an extra pitcher in the bullpen until Adleman's turn in the rotation comes back around, and then they will activate Moscot if he's ready. If he isn't, then they will probably call up Smith.

[Tom Servo]

Me when I realize that this is stretching Sampson out so he can make Adleman's next start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHRMeRszw4

[Tracy Jones]

Actually not a terrible outing by Sampson

[50YrRedsFan]

Meanwhile, Lincecum is going to the Angels.

Angels need more than Lincecum. They aren't good.

[westofyou]

That's kind of tricky, seeing few different teams

1894 Boston 1220?

That's the biggest offensive season ever, 2nd year of the mound being 60 feet away, right in the transition from 2 pitchers a staff to 3 and 4. A lot of teams were slow in changing, the hitters took full advantage, gloves were also new so hits were easier. Hugh Duffy had a 1.200 Ops and hit .440

[Rantly]

I shouldn't mock the giveaways. Enjoy the game.

Didn't know about the giveaway until last week...Getaway weekend with the wife... hopefully will turn out good despite the game;)

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart doubles

[Tom Servo]

Cozart double off the wall

[Tracy Jones]

That's the biggest offensive season ever, 2nd year of the mound being 60 feet away, right in the transition from 2 pitchers a staff to 3 and 4. A lot of teams were slow in changing, the hitters took full advantage, gloves were also new so hits were easier. Hugh Duffy had a 1.200 Ops and hit .440

Did you get an autograph?

[westofyou]

Did you get an autograph?

Shined his shoes guvner

[BCubb2003]

Did you get an autograph?

I wonder what RedStockingRealm was like back then.

[The Operator]

This dude Crockett looks like he's 14 and weighs 60 pounds.

[Mutaman]

met fans will be tying up the lines on FAN tomorrow. The Dark Knight obviously has some issues.

[Tracy Jones]

I wonder what RedStockingRealm was like back then.

Now that's good stuff

['69]

Votto gave Crockett quite the look after the high and tight. Meh, Ks

[westofyou]

I wonder what RedStockingRealm was like back then.

Drunk, brash and opinionated

[Tracy Jones]

Drunk, brash and opinionated

#chuckie

['69]

That's the biggest offensive season ever, 2nd year of the mound being 60 feet away, right in the transition from 2 pitchers a staff to 3 and 4. A lot of teams were slow in changing, the hitters took full advantage, gloves were also new so hits were easier. Hugh Duffy had a 1.200 Ops and hit .440

BR has Duffy eclipsed by Billy Hamilton in oWAR...stolen bases?

[The Operator]

Drunk, brash and opinionatedI hear they've still got the thread "Brush & Comiskey not on the same page" thread archived.

[Tom Servo]

Blake Wood still hasn't allowed a HR this year, he should probably get Cy Young consideration.

[westofyou]

I hear they've still got the thread "Brush & Comiskey not on the same page" thread archived.

Who's running this team?

Brush or his lackey Frank Bancroft?

Using a glove could only lift Bips UZR!!

[Big Klu]

I hear they've still got the thread "Brush & Comiskey not on the same page" thread archived.

Any complaints about the curmudgeon on the wireless telegraph?

[Tracy Jones]

Any complaints about the curmudgeon on the wireless telegraph?

Gloves are for sissies

[The Operator]

lol reds lose

[Tom Servo]

Rajai

bleeping

Davis

['69]

Jim disappointed there were no injuries on the collision

[Reds Fanatic]

The Indians are finally out of town. 7-2 loss. Reds lose all 4 by a combined 43-16

[westofyou]

The Reds Little Big Horn of week comes to an end. If the Reds were an animal in the wild they be dead in the bushes right about now

[Big Klu]

On pace for 59-103.

[Tracy Jones]

On pace for 59-103.

Don't believe they'll hit that depth. The talent coming from the DL and the minor leagues in the coming weeks/months should prevent that.

[The Operator]

Any complaints about the curmudgeon on the wireless telegraph?Him and his son both!

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Jim Day on the post game just said "Well, let's look back at tonight... because we must..."

This is even depressing to the media types.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations once again to Joey Votto, who has tied Barry Larkin for tenth place on the Reds all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 216
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
9. Eric Davis - 203
10. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Joey Votto - 198
12. Vada Pinson - 186
12. Brandon Phillips - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[texasdave]

Saturday night: Felix 'King' Hernandez versus John 'Sacrificial' Lamb.

In the next 4 games, the Reds face Felix Hernandez and Clayton Kershaw. No bueno.