Chicago Trib - Reds Believe in "Bad, Gutless and Stupid Baseball"

[TheBigLebowski]

Sorry to start a 2nd topic in one day, but I came across this and my blood boiled.

The Cubs have been bad, gutless and stupid since 1908. Holy Sunday pancake brunch, this fanbase is insufferable.

Linky

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/ct-hitting-kris-bryant-reds-rosenbloom-20160630-column.html

[Number_Fourteen]

Coming into your own, are you, Melon?

[Tom Servo]

Is this the rag that's rebranding itself 'Tronc'? Dude misspelled our manager's name in the first sentence.

GTFOutta here.

[Larkin88]

:rolleyes: Can't even get Price's first name right.

[TheBigLebowski]

Living down here in Gainesville, I do come across some Cubs fans here and there, but not many.

Good to read this stuff once in a while. Keeps my hate game strong.

[CRDB40]

Sorry to start a 2nd topic in one day, but I came across this and my blood boiled.

The Cubs have been bad, gutless and stupid since 1908. Holy Sunday pancake brunch, this fanbase is insufferable.

Linky

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/ct-hitting-kris-bryant-reds-rosenbloom-20160630-column.html

Well, he's an idiot. So you know...

[Tom Servo]

None of this dude's crap even makes sense. The Reds never threw at Aaron Hill after he made the Reds his *****. If the Reds threw at everyone who dominated them and ran up the score on them this year then every MLB player would have a battle scar.

I shouldn't let an obvious troll job get to me, but I can't believe this garbage is actually published.

[cobike]

IMO the guy has a point. Or two. It sure looked like Jumbo plunked him with a purpose pitch. I was surprised the Cubs did not retaliate, I give them credit for that. As for Votto not sliding into home, he was 15-20 feet away so sliding would have been the dumbest thing he could've done there. However it did appear from the highlight I saw that he momentarily froze when Bruce hit the ball. With two outs, that would be a massive brain cramp. Brantley said on the play-by-play that he got a slow jump. Whatever. But the article is correct about the "Bad" part, and probably also the "Stupid" part.

[Wonderful Monds]

The Cubs and Chicago are now at the top of the list.

Literally the biggest ***holes in baseball.

[TheBigLebowski]

IMO the guy has a point. Or two. It sure looked like Jumbo plunked him with a purpose pitch. I was surprised the Cubs did not retaliate, I give them credit for that. As for Votto not sliding into home, he was 15-20 feet away so sliding would have been the dumbest thing he could've done there. However it did appear from the highlight I saw that he momentarily froze when Bruce hit the ball. With two outs, that would be a massive brain cramp. Brantley said on the play-by-play that he got a slow jump. Whatever. But the article is correct about the "Bad" part, and probably also the "Stupid" part.

Glass houses.

As if the freaking cubbie holes have never thrown "purpose pitches" at anyone. Please.

[muethibp]

There's no denying "bad" and I can accept "stupid." But gutless?! I quibble with that.

[Donder]

Can't blame him for writing an article like this. Like most Cubs supporters Rosenbloom had never actually watched a baseball game before last year.


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[George Anderson]

Lighten up Francis.

[RedsBaron]

Calling an out-of-town team "bad, gutless and stupid" is always an easy way to get the locals on your side. It often surprises me how some members of the media get paid to write about matters for which they have limited knowledge or talent. I read better baseball analysis on this site than I do in much of the paid media.

[redsfanmia]

The Reds and Cubs aren't rivals right now so what's the point of the article?

[CySeymour]

Are the Cubs absolutely innocent in throwing at other teams hitters? Seems I remember an incident earlier this year, maybe involving Jake Arrieta. But I could be wrong.

[Old school 1983]

I don't even think Diaz meant to hit Bryant. Dude has no control and was trying to go inside.

[bucksfan2]

The Reds and Cubs aren't rivals right now so what's the point of the article?

Have the Reds and Cubs ever been rivals? In my lifetime I can't remember them ever being good together. Heck when one is good the other is a door mat.

[westofyou]

Have the Reds and Cubs ever been rivals? In my lifetime I can't remember them ever being good together. Heck when one is good the other is a door mat.

No, they have both had winning seasons in only 5 seasons since division play started.

Either they are good or the Reds are good, or they both suck

That said... who cares what a Tribune writer says about the Reds?

It's click bait and homerism at its apex

[Strikes Out Looking]

This guy obviously hasn't watched the Reds very much because if he had he'd know that the Reds pitching staff is incapable of hitting a specific object 60 feet and 6 inches away from them. If they could, they should've plunked Bryant much earlier in the series.

[CySeymour]

The Reds pitchers are second in the league in HBP's. However, the Cubs are 4th, so it isn't like they've been pitching away a lot. In fact, 4 of the top 5 staffs in the league in HBP's are in the NL Central.

[westofyou]

The Reds pitchers are second in the league in HBP's. However, the Cubs are 4th, so it isn't like they've been pitching away a lot. In fact, 4 of the top 5 staffs in the league in HBP's are in the NL Central.

Pirates are setting that bar for the division

[KronoRed]

You would think a Cubs fan would know Bad, Gutless and Stupid Baseball, they have been pulling it off there for a century.

[traderumor]

Every dog has its day, then it goes back to licking itself for the rest of its life.

[corkedbat]

Give'em a break. It's been so long since the Scrubs have had anyone worth throwing at, they can be excused for forgetting baseball'"tracitions." That being said, I hope the next time we see them, someone sticks one in his earhole. :evil:

[BCubb2003]

I wish someone would write down these unwritten rules so everyone would know how to play the game the right way.

[Yachtzee]

I wish someone would write down these unwritten rules so everyone would know how to play the game the right way.

I believe they are written down, but kept locked in a vault under Busch Stadium by the St. Louis Cardinals, a.k.a. the High Priests of Playing The Game The Right Way. It's interesting to see Cubs fans become that which they hate.

[Roy Tucker]

I think I hate Cubs fans more than the Cubs. Thry can all kiss my wishbone C butt.

All that being said, Kris Bryant got a check mark in Roy's great scorecard of life for the non-curtain call. A pretty all right thing.

[RedFanT]

So, by his own admission he has no idea if Bryant was hit on orders by Price or not, or that even if he was really hit on purpose at all. He's just mad about it. Pardon while I laugh.

[Mutaman]

Hate to say this about the boys or concede anything written by a Cub writer, but does anyone disagree about those adjectives not being pretty accurate over the last few years? "bad" and "stupid" certainly fit.

[Revering4Blue]

Gutless?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

[Chip R]

I wish someone would write down these unwritten rules so everyone would know how to play the game the right way.

Ask and ye shall receive.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/goose-gossage-will-finally-explain-his-sacred-unwritten-rules-of-baseball-062816

[Dom Heffner]

If Bryant refused to take a curtain call and the Reds hit him on purpose, then the Reds are a special kind of stupid.

That's if.

[marcshoe]

I wasn't watching the game when when this happened; how many tries did it take Jumbo to hit him? If he ran the count full and hit him on the sixth try, it seems plausible that this was intentional, but I don't believe he could hit him in fewer than six attempts.

[Donder]

I wasn't watching the game when when this happened; how many tries did it take Jumbo to hit him? If he ran the count full and hit him on the sixth try, it seems plausible that this was intentional, but I don't believe he could hit him in fewer than six attempts.

First pitch if I recall correctly.

[marcshoe]

In that case, it wasn't really Jumbo; it was Steve Bartman in disguise. It's all a plot.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Personally, I don't think this says anything about the Cubs or their fans. Just this writer. While I hate to admit it, this version of the Cubs seems to be a bunch of good, solid, upstanding citizens who are playing great baseball. Their fan-base remains as it always has been, drunken idiots. If anything, it reminds me of the Pirates and their fans & writers back in 2013 when they got their first taste of good baseball in a long while. They puffed out their chests as a collective fan-base and strutted around. The classy way to handle success is to smile, keep things to yourself and act like you've been there before. Acting superior is a dumb move by the Cubs writer & fans. You'd think that by now they'd know that karma's a vindictive female dog.

[Elam]

Interesting article. Didn't know Paul Daugherty picked up a gig with the Tribune


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[Boston Red]

The classy way to handle success

Classy?!? This is sports we're talking about. It's SUPPOSED to be fun. Put me with the drunken idiots.

As the esteemed William Joel wrote, "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints."

[TheBigLebowski]

Classy?!? This is sports we're talking about. It's SUPPOSED to be fun. Put me with the drunken idiots.

As the esteemed William Joel wrote, "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints."

I never knew classy behavior and fun were mutually exclusive.

[Boston Red]

I never knew classy behavior and fun were mutually exclusive.

They aren't....but this talk of being "classy" just smelled a bit too much like something that would emanate out of St. Louis and made me feel a bit dirty.

[Chuckie]

I love how a fanbase that hasn't won anything relevant since 1908 are the biggest trash-talkers in all of MLB, including their writers. Going to be great to see how they somehow blow it this year.

[boognish]

Gutless, eh? Hot take.

:sleep:

[Todd Gack]

I feel like most of the criticism for the article is that of a parent who's pissed at another parent for criticizing how badly their child is acting.

I think we all know that this team is bad, gutless, and stupid. We just don't want a fan of another team telling that to us.

[marcshoe]

If there's any player who is definitely not gutless, it's Jumbo Diaz. He has more gut on him than anyone else in the game.

[Tom Servo]

I feel like most of the criticism for the article is that of a parent who's pissed at another parent for criticizing how badly their child is acting.

I think we all know that this team is bad, gutless, and stupid. We just don't want a fan of another team telling that to us.
Nice try, but the article isn't about the Reds being a bad team. If it was about them being a bad team, nobody would object. The whole article is of the idea that the Reds are somehow strict adherents to antiquated baseball rules which requires them to throw at players, which anybody who watches more than one Reds game can tell you is bull****. They may play horrible baseball, but this isn't a Clint Hurdle team.

[Todd Gack]

Nice try, but the article isn't about the Reds being a bad team. If it was about them being a bad team, nobody would object. The whole article is of the idea that the Reds are somehow strict adherents to antiquated baseball rules which requires them to throw at players, which anybody who watches more than one Reds game can tell you is bull****. They may play horrible baseball, but this isn't a Clint Hurdle team.

AM I the only one who applauded the squeeze Joe Maddon pulled?

Bryan Price's comments on it were bull**** if you ask me. This is the gosh-darned Major League boys.

[Tom Servo]

AM I the only one who applauded the squeeze Joe Maddon pulled?

Bryan Price's comments on it were bull**** if you ask me. This is the gosh-darned Major League boys.
I imagine a squeeze play in a blowout might get you plunked in the minor leagues or college too, if that was indeed the case.

Of course, the article never talks about the squeeze play, just the Reds hit Bryant because he's so good. Strong Tronc writing.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Dude apparently has never seen Jumbo (attempt to) pitch.

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AM I the only one who applauded the squeeze Joe Maddon pulled?

Bryan Price's comments on it were bull**** if you ask me. This is the gosh-darned Major League boys.

Furthermore, no lead is safe in that park.... Even against the hapless Reds.

[Crumbley]

AM I the only one who applauded the squeeze Joe Maddon pulled?

Bryan Price's comments on it were bull**** if you ask me. This is the gosh-darned Major League boys.

Confirmed dummy/loser in wrong shocker.

[Redeye fly]

Can't blame him for writing an article like this. Like most Cubs supporters Rosenbloom had never actually watched a baseball game before last year.


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I don't know about that. It's certainly possible, but I think most Cubs fans probably have been fans for a while and now that they're good they have come out of hiding and decided to point their fingers and laugh at the current laughingstock, since for once it's not them.

These fans, a lot of them, wear "lovable losers" like a battle scar, as if supporting a team that has largely sucked and disappointed for the last 100 plus years gives them brownie points.

Obviously I don't say that about all Cub fans. I'm Facebook friends with one I went to high school with. He's a good guy.

As it is, it's an even numbered year so they'll probably lose to the Giants in the NLCS and their goofy fans still won't know what to do or how to act.

[Johnny5]

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These fans, a lot of them, wear "lovable losers" like a battle scar, as if supporting a team that has largely sucked and disappointed for the last 100 plus years gives them brownie points.

As it is, it's an even numbered year so they'll probably lose to the Giants in the NLCS and their goofy fans still won't know what to do or how to act.

The fact that you brought up brownie points made me think of another sport. I feel the Browns are going in a better direction than the Reds. I am a Brown fan and it hasn't been fun during football season. (Thank the Lord for the Buckeyes). To quote my 2 brothers who are life-long Reds fans... I like watching "Shark Week" better than the Reds...

[_Sir_Charles_]

They aren't....but this talk of being "classy" just smelled a bit too much like something that would emanate out of St. Louis and made me feel a bit dirty.

It wasn't intended in that way. But I make it a point to never argue with someone who's wise enough to quote Billy. :thumbup:

[westofyou]

The fact that you brought up brownie points made me think of another sport. I feel the Browns are going in a better direction than the Reds. I am a Brown fan and it hasn't been fun during football season. (Thank the Lord for the Buckeyes). To quote my 2 brothers who are life-long Reds fans... I like watching "Shark Week" better than the Reds...

The Browns eh?

let's revisit this subject in late November

[Redeye fly]

The fact that you brought up brownie points made me think of another sport. I feel the Browns are going in a better direction than the Reds. I am a Brown fan and it hasn't been fun during football season. (Thank the Lord for the Buckeyes). To quote my 2 brothers who are life-long Reds fans... I like watching "Shark Week" better than the Reds...

Hard to say. I guess we'll find out if RG3 works out or not. I'm a 49ers fan and Sporting News thinks they'll go 1-15. So that's something to look forward to.

[Johnny5]

The Browns eh?

let's revisit this subject in late November

Oh, the Browns will suck again this year. They know it, the fans know it... I just said I like the direction the team is taking better than the Reds. At least it seems as though the Browns are going in the right direction. I don't think the Reds have a direction right now, other than dumping games to get better draft position while waiting for bad contracts to expire on players they can't trade.... Sound about right?

[fielder's choice]

Let's face it, the Reds have been pretty bush-league for awhile now.