8-12-16 Reds @ Brewers

[Ironman92]

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Hope Homer can have a good outing.

[Big Klu]

LOVE these Brewers uniforms! They should absolutely go beck to these as their regular look.

[WrongVerb]

Billy choking up with 2 strikes? Is that new?

[Big Klu]

THom with a backhanded compliment toward Votto:

"It must be noted that Votto has only 38 extra-base hits."

(He actually has 39.)

[Red Raindog]

THom with a backhanded compliment toward Votto:

"It must be noted that Votto has only 38 extra-base hits."

I think I hate Thom more than the Cardinals....

[Red Raindog]

Votto with brain cramp -

[Big Klu]

I think I hate Thom more than the Cardinals....

I wish THom would just go away. I'm actually embarrassed that he is an alumnus of Ohio University.

[Tom Servo]

Schebler bases loaded walk!

1-0 Redlegs

[Big Klu]

Schlebler's bases-loaded walk erases Joey's baserunning gaffe. 1-0 Redlegs.

[Tom Servo]

Eugenio rung up to end the inning and he was pissed, and rightfully so.

[Big Klu]

That's the most emotion I've ever seen out of Geno! I'm actually surprised he didn't get ejected after throwing his batting gloves. (He had already thrown his helmet and bat.) If Freddie Benavides hadn't intervened, he very well may have been.

[Wonderful Monds]

That's the most emotion I've ever seen out of Geno! I'm actually surprised he didn't get ejected after throwing his batting gloves. (He had already thrown his helmet and bat.) If Freddie Benavides hadn't intervened, he very well may have been.

I thought for sure he was going to break his bat over his knee after he got squeezed on a strike 3 call a week or so ago

[Tom Servo]

Homer looking sharp with a 1-2-3 inning with 2 strikeout. Sitting 93-95 on the fastball.

[WrongVerb]

Homer looking sharp with a 1-2-3 inning with 2 strikeout. Sitting 93-95 on the fastball.

That second strikeout on that sick slider. Just, wow! Is it possible that Homer's stuff is better after TJ surgery?

[WrongVerb]

Jimmy Nelson is a guy I'd love to see get work with Ted Power.

[Tom Servo]

Billy walks with 2 outs and easily steals 2nd and 3rd.

[WrongVerb]

Billy with the triple...I mean walk, and 2 stolen bases.

[Mutaman]

I remember facing Wills- a walk was the same as a double. With billy - its a triple. Wills was such a PITA.

[Tom Servo]

Looks like Cozart shaved for his birthday and I can't remember the last time seeing him clean shaven.

[Big Klu]

I wasn't paying attention...Scooter Gennett is batting 4th for the Brewers?

That's a long way off from Gorman Thomas!

[Tom Servo]

Single, strikeout, and double play for Homer in the 2nd.

[Big Klu]

Looks like Cozart shaved for his birthday and I can't remember the last time seeing him clean shaven.

I like it. I wish all of our players would be clean shaven.

[Banshee]

Duvall LONG HR! 2-0 reds, good to see him coming back around.

[Tom Servo]

Duvall! :jump:

2-0 Redlegs

[Big Klu]

Duvall LONG HR! 2-0 reds, good to see him coming back around.

Short, compact swing with a lot of power!

[Tom Servo]

Glad to have Thom back so he can spend his time bashing the team's best player again.

[Mutaman]

I wasn't paying attention...Scooter Gennett is batting 4th for the Brewers?

That's a long way off from Gorman Thomas!

Not to mention Bad Henry.

[Big Klu]

Not to mention Bad Henry.

Hank was way past his prime when he played for the Brewers, though.

[Tom Servo]

BP just does get in at 2nd with a stolen base and Eugenio flares one past the 2B to bring him in.

3-0 Redlegs

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And now Thom falling over himself to praise Phillips after two innings of bashing Votto. Give me a freaking break.

[Mutaman]

Hank was way past his prime when he played for the Brewers, though.

Thinking Milwaukee: Schoendienst, Logan, Eddie Mattress, Bad Henry, Al McGuire, Pabst Blue Ribbon.

[Tom Servo]

Geoff Jenkins was pretty good in his prime. Richie Sexson too.

(sorry, I'm a millennial)

[Big Klu]

Thinking Milwaukee: Schoendienst, Logan, Eddie Mattress, Bad Henry, Al McGuire, Pabst Blue Ribbon.

Ah, you meant the Milwaukee Braves. That team could throw some lumber around.

[Big Klu]

Geoff Jenkins was pretty good in his prime. Richie Sexson too.

(sorry, I'm a millennial)

Gorman Thomas was the most ferocious-looking cleanup hitter in Brewers history. (Even more intimidating than Greg Vaughn or Gary Sheffield!) And he was a CF!

http://www.i70baseball.com/wp-content/uploads/gorman.jpg

[Mutaman]

Geoff Jenkins was pretty good in his prime. Richie Sexson too.

(sorry, I'm a millennial)

Should have seen this guy from Coushatta, louisiana named Joe Adcock. Signed by the Reds but they traded him. Hit 4 HRs in one game. Hit a Home Run in the greatest game ever pitched but they only credited him with a double. Once chased Ruben Gomez around the Polo Grounds.

[Tom Servo]

3 innings, 2 hits, 0 walks, 5 strikeouts for Homer so far

[Mutaman]

Ah, you meant the Milwaukee Braves. That team could throw some lumber around.

Plus Spahn and Burdette.

[Tom Servo]

Should have seen this guy from Coushatta, louisiana named Joe Adcock. Signed by the Reds but they traded him. Hit 4 HRs in one game. Hit a Home Run in the greatest game ever pitched but they only credited him with a double. Once chase Ruben Gomez around the Polo Grounds.
He put an end to Harvey Haddix's extra innings no-hitter too.

[Big Klu]

THom is now in full NFL mode.

[Mutaman]

He put an end to Harvey Haddix's extra innings no-hitter too.

That's what I mean by "the greatest game ever pitched".

"Another notable home run was the blast that ended the epic duel between Lew Burdette and Harvey Haddix on May 26, 1959, in which Haddix took a perfect game into the 13th inning. Adcock did not get credit for a home run, however, because Aaron – who was on first base – saw Félix Mantilla, the runner ahead of him, score the winning run and thought the hit had only been a double and walked back to the dugout, causing Adcock to be called out for passing him on the base paths. (Eventually, the ruling was that instead of a 3-run home run for a 3–0 Braves victory, Adcock got a double and 1 RBI, and the Braves won 1–0.)"
Wiki

[Tom Servo]

Gorman Thomas was the most ferocious-looking cleanup hitter in Brewers history. (Even more intimidating than Greg Vaughn or Gary Sheffield!) And he was a CF!

http://www.i70baseball.com/wp-content/uploads/gorman.jpg
More ferocious than Sexson's Backstreet Boys haircut?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP33B8wCIAAURb4.jpg

[Mutaman]

My favorite trivia question: Who was the winning pitcher in the greatest game ever pitched---- Lou Burdette.

[Red Raindog]

I remember facing Wills- a walk was the same as a double. With billy - its a triple. Wills was such a PITA.

you must old --- like me --- I remember him well --

[Big Klu]

More ferocious than Sexson's Backstreet Boys haircut?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP33B8wCIAAURb4.jpg

Umm...yes.

Gorman Thomas after shaving the beard. Maybe even MORE intimidating!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8528/8641026958_41acd98715_o.jpg

[Tom Servo]

Eugenio really does deserve props for improving his play at 3B, he's become Steady Eddie over there now on the routine plays that he was messing up back in April/May.

[Big Klu]

Scooter Gennett hitting cleanup is like Jim Gantner hitting cleanup.

[Tom Servo]

Four scoreless for Homer, perhaps reminding some of his most vocal detractors that he was a pretty damn good pitcher from 2012-2014.

[PutPeteIn]

Nelson is cooked...108 pitches in just 5 frames.
Hit the showers kid.

[Mutaman]

Four scoreless for Homer, perhaps reminding some of his most vocal detractors that he was a pretty damn good pitcher from 2012-2014.

I was at his first no-no, and I think he had better stuff in that post season loss to the Giants. How did we lose that game? He was brilliant. 7 innings 10 ks, one stinking 2 strike single.

[Tom Servo]

How did we lose that game?
I try not to think about it.

[Tom Servo]

Trouble in the 5th for Homer. Got ahead of Chris Carter 0-2 but for once Carter did not swing at pitches out the zone and drew a walk. Now a bloop single to center by Hernan Perez.

Strikeout #7 on a 95 mph fastball for the first out.

[GADawg]

BP just does get in at 2nd with a stolen base and Eugenio flares one past the 2B to bring him in.

3-0 Redlegs

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BPnscored because he knew there were 2 outs

And now Thom falling over himself to praise Phillips after two innings of bashing Votto. Give me a freaking break.

[Tom Servo]

Big K by Homer! Strikeout #8 on a 95 mph fastball blown past the pinch hitter to end the threat.

[paulrichjr]

Bailey looked really good after getting in trouble. He was really spotting his pitches with incredible precision.

[Tom Servo]

lol Thom insulting the Braves scouting Georgia and then immediately walking it back when challenged on it.

I wonder if the Barves are jealous that we got Nick Senzel, born in Atlanta, and Taylor Trammell from Cobb County in this year's draft.

[Larkin11]

I thought it would take awhile for Homer to get back to form, but he's already looking like the Homer of two years ago. He looks like he has much better control than most returning TJ pitchers, and I love seeing the fastball getting up to 97 MPH.

[GADawg]

Serious cleavage behind home plate....now back to your regularly scheduled programming

[Tom Servo]

I thought it would take awhile for Homer to get back to form, but he's already looking like the Homer of two years ago. He looks like he has much better control than most returning TJ pitchers, and I love seeing the fastball getting up to 97 MPH.
I imagine he'll still have his issues, looking 'off' in some starts like in Pittsburgh. Not having the pitches go where he wants and a few ticks off the fastball, etc. But overall it has been very encouraging how strong he has looked right out the gate. Reason to believe he should be good to go in 2017.

[paulrichjr]

I thought it would take awhile for Homer to get back to form, but he's already looking like the Homer of two years ago. He looks like he has much better control than most returning TJ pitchers, and I love seeing the fastball getting up to 97 MPH.

I haven't gotten to watch any of the innings before the last one but man he was impressive. Maybe I have just forgotten over the past 12 months what a legit pitcher with experience looks like. How I wish this team had started the season in Cincy instead of some of that mess we saw in April/May.

[Banshee]

Thom is just insufferable. If it was just this last couple yrs. when the reds haven't been very good, I'd get it somewhat. He runs down the reds when they're good, bad, blah, breathing... Really seems like baseball isn't his sport.

[Tom Servo]

Thom is just insufferable. If it was just this last couple yrs. when the reds haven't been very good, I'd get it somewhat. He runs down the reds when they're good, bad, blah, breathing... Really seems like baseball isn't his sport.
He sure sounded a lot more excited relaying football stories and info than anything about baseball in this game.

[PutPeteIn]

Thom is just insufferable. If it was just this last couple yrs. when the reds haven't been very good, I'd get it somewhat. He runs down the reds when they're good, bad, blah, breathing... Really seems like baseball isn't his sport.
Thom Bitterman

[Tom Servo]

Strikeout #9 to open the 6th for Homer.

[Big Klu]

Serious cleavage behind home plate....now back to your regularly scheduled programming

I'm not sure how Homer can concentrate.

[KronoRed]

Hasn't Thom admitted in the past he doesn't like baseball? or is that Joe Buck, another guy who has a career due to Dad.

[Tom Servo]

Strikeout #10!

[Banshee]

Maybe it's inspiring him. He's a machine out there tonight.

[paulrichjr]

Number 10

[Tom Servo]

Homer hitting 96 mph on pitch 100.

[paulrichjr]

Fans the side. Just sick

[Tom Servo]

Strikeout #11! Struck out the side!

Wow. 'Only' 6 innings but that was as good as any start by a Reds pitcher this year. Way to go Homer!

[Red Raindog]

Homer looks incredibly good on the mound tonight --

[Kc61]

Homer, thanks for the reminder, now take a seat and enjoy the rest of the evening.

[Big Klu]

Hasn't Thom admitted in the past he doesn't like baseball? or is that Joe Buck, another guy who has a career due to Dad.

That was Joe Buck.

I actually think that THom likes baseball, it's just that he has the attention span of a gnat.

[Mutaman]

Kudos Homer buddy.

[paulrichjr]

Maybe it's inspiring him. He's a machine out there tonight.

Can we get the girls name and convince her to sit behind the plate from now on during Homer starts?

[Tom Servo]

Duvall 3-3 tonight

[Big Klu]

Duvall 3-3 tonight

And a HBP.

[Tom Servo]

Ground rule RBI double for BP, just fair and out of the reach of the RFer.

4-0 Redlegs

[Tom Servo]

Intentional walk to Schebler to load them up for Suarez, interesting strategy walking a guy who's 0 for his last forever.

[Tom Servo]

DP strategy would have worked for Milwaukee, but Villar botches the ground ball and everyone is safe. 5-0 Good Guys.

[Big Klu]

THom asking if Pat Benatar "still looks good".

Pat is 63 years old and can still kick THom's ass!

[Tom Servo]

The Jesus with a 2 run pinch-hit single

7-0 Redlegs

[WrongVerb]

How many outs did the Brewers give the Reds this inning? I count at least three so far.

[Big Klu]

Jim Day handled the Benatar question very well.

[RedsfaninMT]

THom asking if Pat Benatar "still looks good.

Pat is 63 years old, and can still kick THom's ass!

Sometimes I think that aforementioned Gnat could do the same.

[Big Klu]

Ivan Ivanovich with a two-run PH single!

[PutPeteIn]

Reds about to be 12 back in lost column with still 48 to play.
Need to sweep the Brewers and then go home and sweep the Marlins four then peak at the standings then.
If we can be within 8 gms heading into September we have a shot.
Look at the standings...no one wants the 2nd WC.
Lets take it!!!

[Big Klu]

I think the RZ website is having a little problem with the hiccups right now.

[Big Klu]

Reds about to be 12 back in lost column with still 48 to play.
Need to sweep the Brewers and then go home and sweep the Marlins four then peak at the standings then.
If we can be within 8 gms heading into September we have a shot.
Look at the standings...no one wants the 2nd WC.
Lets take it!!!

This isn't Pokemon. You can't catch them all. Eventually they will start to play each other and the Reds will just be spinning their wheels.

[Tom Servo]

Scoreless inning from Lorenzen with 2 K's, I've been very impressed with him the last few weeks.

[PutPeteIn]

Need the Cubs to kick everyones butt except the Reds.
Klu its not out of the question "if" we can go on a big run right now with the 10 gm homestand.
This team plays pretty damn well at home and our pitching hasnt been this good since 2012.

[Wheelhouse]

Someone PLEASE fill me in on why Lorenzen is pitching in a 7-0 game? It's prime Ohlendorf time.

[Big Klu]

Someone PLEASE fill me in on why Lorenzen is pitching in a 7-0 game? It's prime Ohlendorf time.

Because they don't want it to be 7-5 in the blink of an eye.

[Mutaman]

With a 7-0 lead this would be a good time to get inglesias some work and let him close it out.

[Big Klu]

Need the Cubs to kick everyones butt except the Reds.
Klu its not out of the question "if" we can go on a big run right now with the 10 gm homestand.
This team plays pretty damn well at home and our pitching hasnt been this good since 2012.

There are nine teams they have to climb over to get go the 2nd Wild Card. All nine are not going to lose at the same time on any given night.

[Big Klu]

Did Votto just shade Chris Carter?

[Banshee]

Oafendorf does it again, unreal.

[WrongVerb]

Why is OhlenDOH still on this club?

[fondfoat]

After watching Bailey and Lorenzon look so in control, Ohlendorf just looks so horrible.

[Mutaman]

https://youtu.be/VKcAYMb5uk4

[Tom Servo]

Ohlendorf was my cue to see what else was going on in baseball, seeing Carlos Beltran and Adrian Beltre in the same lineup is fun.

Ohlendorf's HR/9 is ridiculously bad, and like a JJ Hoover it's not simply luck. If he could keep the ball in the park he would be a solid reliever. But he can't, so he isn't.

[WrongVerb]

Cardinals just brought up Reyes to pitch out of the bullpen and work into the rotation. Why the Reds can't do the same with Stephenson is beyond me.

[Mutaman]

Well he didn't walk anybody and he didn't hit anybody so there's that.

[Henry Clay]

I like Ohlendorf's old-school delivery as much as I like most old-school things, but nostalgia can't be mistaken for effectiveness. His delivery no longer deceives anyone, and he is giving up big runs at an alarming pace recently. Let's give a younger pitcher an audition and let Ohlendorf ride off to the museum or another team.

[Tom Servo]

Oh yeah, Sampson is still on the team.

[Mutaman]

I like Ohlendorf's old-school delivery as much as I like most old-school things, but nostalgia can't be mistaken for effectiveness. His delivery no longer deceives anyone, and he is giving up big runs at an alarming pace recently. Let's give a younger pitcher an audition and let Ohlendorf ride off to the museum or another team.

Never before saw "Ohlendorf" and "effective" in the same sentence.

[Mutaman]

Cingrani must really be in Bryan's doghouse, and he should be.

[fondfoat]

The first 7 innings is "How do the Reds have such a bad record?"

Inning 8 and 9 is "Oh yeah. That's right."

[Mutaman]

Just throw the ball over the plate. Maybe try underhanded.

[PuffyPig]

Cardinals just brought up Reyes to pitch out of the bullpen and work into the rotation. Why the Reds can't do the same with Stephenson is beyond me.

The Cards are desperate and searching for answers in a pennant race.

The Reds have a luxury of letting Stephenson get some much needed time in the minors as they aren't going anywhere.

[Tom Servo]

well this could have gone smoother

[Big Klu]

It is NOT a save situation, THom!

[WrongVerb]

I think we know who won't be pitching for the Reds next year.

[fondfoat]

Sigh. No rest for Iggy.

[Big Klu]

I think we know who won't be pitching for the Reds next year.

It's hard to expect a guy who has pitched only three or four times in the last month to be sharp.

[Mutaman]

Sampson is another in a long line of dudes who turns into a completely different ballplayer when he gets off the bus from Louisville.

[Henry Clay]

Never before saw "Ohlendorf" and "effective" in the same sentence.

Ohlendorf hasn't been effective for some time. He's like the Chrysler Cordoba of relievers. He seemed like a good idea at some time, but we're not quite sure why.

[Tom Servo]

It is NOT a save situation, THom!
It's not?

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We're good again! :beerme:

[50YrRedsFan]

I think we know who won't be pitching for the Reds next year.

Sampson, Ohlendorf, Cingrani, Lamb, Diaz, many more

[Mutaman]

Worth it just to see what a good pitcher can do- no muss, no fuss, just get the ball over the plate with something on it.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 67-95.

[Ironman92]

* Homer was refreshingly great

* Votto, Duvall and Phillips lived on base

*Billy continues to be a WAR hero of late

*Phillips pays Thom $$$ to always take his side or exaggerate his doings

* yay the Reds won!

[Ironman92]

Cingrani must really be in Bryan's doghouse, and he should be.

Bryan should be in Bryan's doghouse also

[Henry Clay]

As bad as Ohlendorf and Sampson were, Schebler is still a huge weak link. He's batting .179 and providing no protection in the lineup. Maybe it's time to give Winker a try. It can't get worse.

[PutPeteIn]

15-10 since the break.
Need to really catch fire now heading into the 10 gm homie.

[Big Klu]

It's not?

No. In order to get a save, a pitcher has to satisfy three criteria:

1. He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team.
2. He is not the winning pitcher.
3. He satisfies one of the following three conditions:

(a) He enters a game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches at least one inning.
(b) He enters the game with the tying run either on base, at bat, or on deck.
(c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings.


Islesias met the first two criteria, but none of the three conditions for the third.

[Big Klu]

No, Jeff Piecoro! It is NOT a save!

[Big Klu]

All three runs given up by Sampson in the ninth were unearned due to the error by Cozart.

[Tom Servo]

As bad as Ohlendorf and Sampson were, Schebler is still a huge weak link. He's batting .179 and providing no protection in the lineup. Maybe it's time to give Winker a try. It can't get worse.
It's been a bad week for him, literally as bad as it can get with the 0fer hitless streak, but you have to give him more time than that.

[WrongVerb]

It's been a bad week for him, literally as bad as it can get with the 0fer hitless streak, but you have to give him more time than that.

He was fine until I used his picture as my avatar. Maybe I need to go back to the dead guy. Nothing worse can happen to him. I think. LOL

[WVRedsFan]

The use of Iggy tonight was widely praised, but it made little sense in the whole realm of things. Yep, we thought he should be been used in games earlier this week, especially the meltdown against the Cardinals. The reason was he couldn't pitch on consecutive days, and yet he's used on two days rest to get a single out. Maybe Price learned something. I also guess that means he's out until Sunday. Another thing to think about is that the Reds have only a couple of reliable relievers. Iggy, Lorenzen (at times), Wood, and Johnson (at times). Sampson and Ohlendorf are not reliable. Cingrani is iffy at best. I laugh when I hear certain posters say we're still in the Wild Card race. What I wrote is one of the reasons this team is not ready for prime time yet. I wish it were so, but it ain't.

[Larkin11]

The use of Iggy tonight was widely praised, but it made little sense in the whole realm of things. Yep, we thought he should be been used in games earlier this week, especially the meltdown against the Cardinals. The reason was he couldn't pitch on consecutive days, and yet he's used on two days rest to get a single out. Maybe Price learned something. I also guess that means he's out until Sunday. Another thing to think about is that the Reds have only a couple of reliable relievers. Iggy, Lorenzen (at times), Wood, and Johnson (at times). Sampson and Ohlendorf are not reliable. Cingrani is iffy at best. I laugh when I hear certain posters say we're still in the Wild Card race. What I wrote is one of the reasons this team is not ready for prime time yet. I wish it were so, but it ain't.

Pretty sure there's only one poster that believes we actually have a shot at the Wild Card.

[WVRedsFan]

Pretty sure there's only one poster that believes we actually have a shot at the Wild Card.yes. I just shake my head.

[PuffyPig]

Another thing to think about is that the Reds have only a couple of reliable relievers. Iggy, Lorenzen (at times), Wood, and Johnson (at times).

I can't begin to imagine who Johnson is?

[Raisor]

I can't begin to imagine who Johnson is?

I think Wood and Johnson is the same person.

[WrongVerb]

I think Wood and Johnson is the same person.

They're hard men to find.

[Raisor]

They're hard men to find.

Just like you to make it dirty.

[WrongVerb]

Just like you to make it dirty.

Just call me Mr. Sanchez :D

[Wonderful Monds]

Geoff Jenkins was pretty good in his prime. Richie Sexson too.

(sorry, I'm a millennial)

They sure as hell beat up the Reds sorry ass pitching staff of the 00s.

[Raisor]

They sure as hell beat up the Reds sorry ass pitching staff of the 00s.

Considering how bad the pitching was Sexson's 870 OPS against the Reds and Jenkins' 837 ain't nothing special

;)

[Ironman92]

Considering how bad the pitching was Sexson's 870 OPS against the Reds and Jenkins' 837 ain't nothing special

;)

Seemed like Weeks and Lyle Overbay dominated too

[Tom Servo]

Seemed like Weeks and Lyle Overbay dominated too

Don't forget Bill Hall

[Ironman92]

Don't forget Bill Hall

I couldn't think of his damn name. Could only remember John Oates

[TheRedScare]

Calling Zach Davies an ace since he is 4-0 since July first. Haha, oh FSO

[Ironman92]

Wrong thread