8/23/2016 Reds vs Rangers

[cumberlandreds]

Back to inter-league play tonight as the Reds take on the AL West 1st place Texas Rangers. Ace Straily takes the hill for the Reds. Cozart still out. I have a feeling we may not see much of him the rest of the season.


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[cumberlandreds]

Rangers lineup.

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Balkin' Bob has the plate tonight. That means a very interesting night to say the least.

[Big Klu]

Ace Straily, Private Eye

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[GADawg]

Ok I admit I'm scared of this Rangers lineup....Lucroy was probably up early this morning salivating

[Sea Ray]

Where was umpire Ramon DeJesus on picture day?

[cumberlandreds]

Where was umpire Ramon DeJesus on picture day?

Newbie umpire. Did not get the message.

[Big Klu]

Billy hit that one on the screws. Rotten luck.

[Tom Servo]

Billy Havoc robbed.

Jose Havoc singles.

[Big Klu]

Also, I notice that the Reds are wearing the red jerseys for a Straily start again. They are going to have to take them on the road!

Jose Havoc with a line drive single to left center.

[Tom Servo]

Six up, six down for Straily.

[Big Klu]

Billy Havoc robbed.

Jose Havoc singles.

I wouldn't mind a few more of the Havoc brothers in the lineup. (I loved the speed game in the 80's and early 90's, combined with some power and OBP.)

[Tom Servo]

Four scoreless for Straily, making it look easy so far.

[TheRedScare]

Votto bad
Hatcher bad

Overall bad

[Big Klu]

I don't even know what to say about that one, so I'll say nothing.

[TheRedScare]

I'm sure Marty is having a stroke, even though Hatcher is largely to blame given that he'd be out either way

[Banshee]

Good job by Straily despite a little bad luck.

[Banshee]

Billy is pretty good.

[Big Klu]

Touchdown, Hamilton!

What a catch!

[Larkin Fan]

Every game Billy finds a new way to blow my mind. That catch was insane.

[Raisor]

Marty still going off on Votto

[Banshee]

Daren WillmanVerified account
‏@darenw Daren Willman
Billy's catch statcast:
Route efficiency: 97.2%
Distance covered: 123ft
First step: -0.3
Top speed: 22 MPH

[TheRedScare]

Marty still going off on Votto

what's he saying?

[Larry Schuler]

Marty's words are too complex and nuanced to be quoted. You have to actually listen to what he says.

[TheRedScare]

Not like they're a stat that means anything, but Votto has been getting a lot of RBIs lately (coinciding with Peraza's callup.)

[RedsBaron]

Marty still going off on Votto
How did he like that clutch RBI hit?

[TheRedScare]

How did he like that clutch RBI hit?

Probably complaining that it was a punch and judy hit, or something

[fondfoat]

Votto = Machine.

[Rantly]

Not like they're a stat that means anything, but Votto has been getting a lot of RBIs lately (coinciding with Peraza's callup.)

No a RBI doesn't mean anything in a 0-0 game?

[PutPeteIn]

Pretty stupid to pitch to the hottest hitter on planet earth with 2 outs and1st base open in a scoreless gm in the 6th.
I hope it costs the Rangers the gm.

[TheRedScare]

No a RBI doesn't mean anything in a 0-0 game?

Please point out where I said that.

[Big Klu]

How did he like that clutch RBI hit?

According to THom, he's hitting "only" .250 with 2 outs and RISP.

I wonder what the league average is?

[Larkin Fan]

Marty still going off on Votto

And in other news, the sky is blue.

[Rantly]

Please point out where I said that.

"not that they're a stat that means anything"

[Big Klu]

Double switch:

Holt, who led off the last inning with a PH walk and scored on Votto's hit, stays in to play LF.
Iglesias now pitching and batting 4th.

[TheRedScare]

"not that they're a stat that means anything"

Yes, RBIs as a stat mean nothing. You're not differentiating the act of driving in a run from the RBI stat (which tells us nothing about a player's ability.)

[Ironman92]

Daren WillmanVerified account
‏@darenw Daren Willman
Billy's catch statcast:
Route efficiency: 97.2%
Distance covered: 123ft
First step: -0.3
Top speed: 22 MPH

This May very well be the greatest play in StatCast history. Not only does no other CF make that catch....none of them could make that catch. You can't get a better jump and they can't run 22 mph on a catch and the fact the catch took him to the wall on a slide. He saved 3 bases that no one else could've.

I guess this is just yet another outlier catch that shouldn't count because he doesn't have good CF abilities...he's just fast.

[TheRedScare]

What a play by Suarez. Shame BP couldn't handle it.

[Rantly]

Yes, RBIs as a stat mean nothing. You're not differentiating the act of driving in a run from the RBI stat (which tells us nothing about a player's ability.)

Ok whatever, you win

[Red Raindog]

the Reds' best pitcher rises to the occasion -- again - nice job

[Ironman92]

Iglesias es muy bueno

[Raisor]

Ok whatever, you win

Driving in a run is terrific, but using RBI as a stat to compare players es muy mal

[Rantly]

Driving in a run is terrific, but using RBI as a stat to compare players es muy mal

In this instance, and considering the no score game, it was terrific that Joey drove in a run, and yes accumulated an RBI which a lessor player with less RBIs would not.

[fondfoat]

You are saying that less RBIs equals a lesser player. That is not always true. That is what Raisor is alluding to.

[Ironman92]

I ❤️ Raisel

I fear I won't love the guy pitching the 9th

[Raisor]

I ❤️ Raisor


Everybody does

[Big Klu]

I ❤️ Raisel

I fear I won't love the guy pitching the 9th

Raisel and the guy pitching the 9th would be one and the same if I were calling the shots tonight.

I'd leave him out there for one more. (Provided the training staff gave the thumbs up.)

[TheRedScare]

In this instance, and considering the no score game, it was terrific that Joey drove in a run, and yes accumulated an RBI which a lessor player with less RBIs would not.

Those are 100% mutually exclusive

[Banshee]

Peraza is red hot.

[WVRedsFan]

The Reds need to get this run in, especially if Cingrani comes in. Second and third now with Votto at 1-2.


Done

[George Foster]

Votto's average is up to .312 that is amazing.....best hitter in the game

[Sea Ray]

Say what you want about Marty but that SF beats a walk in that situation. Way to go Joey

[WVRedsFan]

Votto's average is up to .312 that is amazing.....best hitter in the gameTruth

[Larkin Fan]

Another RBI for Votto, Marty still isn't happy, no doubt.

[Rantly]

You are saying that less RBIs equals a lesser player. That is not always true. That is what Raisor is alluding to.

Sure I realize that. Votto is probably one of the top 5 players in the game and not close to the top 5 in rbi. The RBI is contingent on opportunities. I guess it just bothers me when I hear people say RBIs does not mean anything.

[Raisor]

Say what you want about Marty but that SF beats a walk in that situation. Way to go Joey

Unless the next batter homers and they lose out on an extra run

[WVRedsFan]

Another RBI for Votto, Marty still isn't happy, no doubt.
Marty loves the sacrifice fly

[TheRedScare]

I guess leaving Iglesias in to dominate wasn't an option.

Well, we're turning to the worst closer in the game now. Hold on tight.

[Mutaman]

Inglesias has been throwing 2 inning stints for some time now. Why didn't he let him pitch the 9th?

[DocRed]

Shocker..Cingrani walks the first batter.

[Rantly]

Unless the next batter homers and they lose out on an extra run

...and it lowers Joey's OPS

[Sea Ray]

Unless the next batter homers and they lose out on an extra run

Let the record show I made that statement before the next batter struck out feebly

[Ironman92]

I said 15 cuss words and the dog has left the room. I wish the Reds were in the GD pennant race so I can say they should've pitched Raisel in the 9th without 12 GM wannabe's telling me how stupid that would be.

[Sea Ray]

Cingrani does have the advantage of an ump that gives huge strike zones

[Ironman92]

Unless the next batter homers and they lose out on an extra run

Yeah De Jesus is a pretty good HR bet.

[Freak25]

Suarez picked that one at the hot corner!

[Ironman92]

Damn Suarez has been infinitely better at fielding. What a play.

[DocRed]

Another nice play by Suarez....his defense has really come along this year.

[Larkin Fan]

Nice play by Suarez. He's really showing improvement as a 3B.

[TheRedScare]

Tying run on base, and both outs have been hit well. This guy is so bad.

[paulrichjr]

Peraza is red hot.

He really is. I would love for people to look back on that trade and wonder how they were able to get Peraza for only Todd Frazier.

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Nice play by Suarez.

[TheRedScare]

Guy throws 85% fastballs and still can't control the thing

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whew

[paulrichjr]

Tying run on base, and both outs have been hit well. This guy is so bad.

It's 3-0 with one man on base, What kind of math is that?

Nevermind... My internet must be slow

[Sea Ray]

Iggy's long 7th inning pretty much eliminated any chance of him pitching 3 innings tonight

[Mutaman]

this is all on price

[DocRed]

Excellent win!

[Ironman92]

Winner winner

[Mutaman]

we were behind you all the way tony

[TheRedScare]

It's 3-0 with one man on base, What kind of math is that?

Oops

[Tom Servo]

We're good again! :beerme:

[Big Klu]

On pace for 70-92.

[Freak25]

"And this one belongs to the Reds!"

[paulrichjr]

Oops

There are no men on base and three outs. What kind of math is that? :)

[Big Klu]

Here's some math for you!

9-8 on Bow Tie Tuesday!

[Big Klu]

The Reds have worn red jerseys in three of Straily's last four starts in home night games, and won every one of them. It might be time to pack them up for the next road trip, too.

(They also wore the red "Los Rojos" jersey in a Straily start at Milwaukee, and won that game too.)

[GADawg]

Not like they're a stat that means anything, but Votto has been getting a lot of RBIs lately (coinciding with Peraza's callup.)

Also coinciding with Votto batting about 1.000 the last month and a half

[WVRedsFan]

Cingrani reminds me of CoCo (Francisco) Codero. Nail biting saves and yet he has 16 on a 54-win club. Confounds me.

[Sea Ray]

Seeing as how the SD Padres only have one starting pitcher with an ERA under 4.00, one's gotta wonder who over there decided that they didn't need Straily...and they decided they didn't need him 72 hrs after acquiring him

[Tom Servo]

Cingrani reminds me of CoCo (Francisco) Codero. Nail biting saves and yet he has 16 on a 54-win club. Confounds me.
He reminds me of those closers before sabremetrics really took hold where you had guys with pretty low strikeout rates and high walk rates who somehow were always called on in the 9th inning to finish things off, like David Weathers.

[RedsfaninMT]

According to THom, he's hitting "only" .250 with 2 outs and RISP.

I wonder what the league average is?

I suppose he did not mention his .930 OPS in that scenario either? #NotElite (Just looked and Daniel Murphy is at .899 OPS in the same stat)

[Tuff Nut]

He reminds me of those closers before sabremetrics really took hold where you had guys with pretty low strikeout rates and high walk rates who somehow were always called on in the 9th inning to finish things off, like David Weathers.

That is whom he reminds me of...CoCo was better than Weathers...Weathers always scared me when he came in....unless it was at least a 3 run lead.
If Tony could get away from the first batter walk, he wouldn't scare me as much, but that seems to e what he is....I'd rather Rasiel pitch 3 innings than go thru that.

[ScotlandRed]

This is probably stating the obvious, but in the second half it seems like the Reds don't let themselves get down after a 2/3 losses in a row. There always seems to be a guy who steps up and says 'We're gonna win this one' and go out and perform. In the first half that wasn't happening and 2/3 losses were escalating to 3/4/5/6 losses.

[cumberlandreds]

Really nice to see the Reds playing so well lately, sans the Monday game. I'm liking what I am seeing of Hamilton and Peraza at the top of the lineup. Not many games I know, but it is encouraging.

Just a random thought. The Reds and Rangers must be the only teams not to employ a pretty young lady sideline reporter for the games. I had the Ranger telecast on last night and they take it to a whole different level. They had an old man who looks like he's ready for his social security check reporting from the dugout. Are there no pretty young ladies available in Texas to do the on field reporting? :)

[Big Klu]

Really nice to see the Reds playing so well lately, sans the Monday game. I'm liking what I am seeing of Hamilton and Peraza at the top of the lineup. Not many games I know, but it is encouraging.

Just a random thought. The Reds and Rangers must be the only teams not to employ a pretty young lady sideline reporter for the games. I had the Ranger telecast on last night and they take it to a whole different level. They had an old man who looks like he's ready for his social security check reporting from the dugout. Are there no pretty young ladies available in Texas to do the on field reporting? :)


Normally they have Emily Jones, who tends to be the target for Gatorade baths after Rangers wins.

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[cumberlandreds]

Normally they have Emily Jones, who tends to be the target for Gatorade baths after Rangers wins.

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Thanks, I did look up their broadcasters and saw she only worked selected road games. Or she could just be drying out from her last Gatorade bath.

[cobike]

It baffles me why the Rangers pitched to Votto in the 6th and in the 8th inning last night. I mean, it was a LH pitcher in the 6th, but Votto was 1 for 2 with a warning-track line drive out already off of Holland. I seriously doubt Joe Maddon would have pitched to him either time, but I'm happy to see it and they sure got burned.