8/26/2016 Reds @ DBacks

[TheRedScare]

Updated Reds Lineup:

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Jose Peraza (R) SS
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Adam Duvall (R) LF
5. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
6. Scott Schebler (L) RF
7. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
8. Ramon Cabrera (S) C
9. Brandon Finnegan (L) P

DBacks Lineup:

1. Jean Segura (R) 2B
2. A.J. Pollock (R) CF
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Welington Castillo (R) C
5. Rickie Weeks Jr. (R) LF
6. Yasmany Tomas (R) RF
7. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
8. Chris Owings (R) SS
9. Braden Shipley (R) P

Time- 9:40 PM EST
CIN TV- FSO
CIN Radio- WLW

Game Storylines:

* AJ Pollock returns to the DBacks for his first action of 2016
* Zack Cozart remains out of the lineup with a knee injury
* Tucker Barnhart scratched

[Ironman92]

Tomas has been quite good for a decent number of AB

[Banshee]

Tucker B. scratched w/ a sore hand.

[Reds Fanatic]

Peraza with a deep fly out to center.

[Ironman92]

Hamilton robbed of a second chance on a good play by Drury

[Ironman92]

Peraza drills a long out to deep CF

[TheRedScare]

Two bunt attempts by Votto in a row. Sigh.

[Ironman92]

Votto squares to bunt and fouls it off...

Yes I'm serious

[Ironman92]

With 2 strikes Joey gives up on the Norris Hopper and then lines a ball that Goldschmidt made a good play on.

[Ironman92]

Two bunt attempts by Votto in a row. Sigh.

He's a head scratching superstar

[Banshee]

I never will question Joseph Votto when it comes to hitting.

[Tom Servo]

Thought that was fair in real-time.

[Ironman92]

I never will question Joseph Votto when it comes to hitting.

Too late for me to say the same

[Reds Fanatic]

2 Ks for Finnegan to start the game

[Tom Servo]

2 Ks for Finnegan to start the game
Got that changeup working so far, great to see.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nasty stuff from Finnegan tonight. Strikes out the side

[Tom Servo]

Damn Finny, keep it up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Duvall with a double to left center.

[Ironman92]

Duvall = [emoji123]

[Ironman92]

Sacrifice bunt by Phillips

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips sacrifices Duvall to 3rd. Only his 2nd sacrifice all year

[Reds Fanatic]

Schebler singles in a run. 1-0 Reds!

[Tom Servo]

Nicely done Schebby

[Banshee]

Shebler finally relaxing and hitting the ball, rbi single, reds lead 1-0.

[Ironman92]

Jay Bruce 0/4 with 4 K tonight

22 games with Mets hitting .160 with 23 K and a .526 OPS

[Reds Fanatic]

Suarez walks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabera flies out to center.

[TheRedScare]

Jay Bruce 0/4 with 4 K tonight

22 games with Mets hitting .160 with 23 K and a .526 OPS

Mets fans are absolutely eating him alive on twitter

[TheRedScare]

Kind of funny how Votto chokes up all the time and Finnegan doesn't choke up a bit with 2 strikes, and predictably Ks.

[Reds Fanatic]

That is a classic video of Cody Reed in the rain in Indianapolis tonight. They had major flooding tonight with water up to car doors and the whole dugout was flooded.

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4 Ks in a row for Finnegan

[Tom Servo]

Finnegan is going to strike out 27 batters tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

The Reds killer Rickie Weeks triples to center. I did not even realize he was with Arizona but he is a problem for the Reds no matter where he goes

[Tom Servo]

I despise Rickie Weeks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another nasty changeup. 5 Ks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Almost had the runner. A line drive off Suarez and I thought Peraza had him but Votto just missed the ball. Tie game 1-1.

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Fly out to right. 1-1 after 2.

[Tom Servo]

Nice play by Peraza, but the run still scores. Votto whiffed on it, but he probably beats it anyway.

[Banshee]

Never said I wouldn't question Joseph Votto's defense..

[Tom Servo]

Even with the two hits that inning Finnegan looks like a totally different guy tonight, pumping strikes and utilizing the changeup heavily. Hopefully this is some effective Mack Jenkins influence.

[TheRedScare]

safe even if he catches it

[Ironman92]

Should be an error on Votto...slo mo showed that ball at his glove before runners foot was down.

Have never really seen that before. Great play by Peraza...Votto played that like he was dizzy

[Reds Fanatic]

Never said I wouldn't question Joseph Votto's defense..

That was a weird play it was like Votto lost the ball it missed his glove and hit him in the chest

[Ironman92]

Rickie Weeks is in his 13th season and 11.7% of his career total bases have came against the Reds. 10.7% of his extra bases have came against the Reds

[Ironman92]

safe even if he catches it

Nope...I froze my tv with my DVR and he had ball at his glove before foot was down

[Tom Servo]

BABIP not doing much for Havoc this inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 3rd

[Kc61]

Even with the two hits that inning Finnegan looks like a totally different guy tonight, pumping strikes and utilizing the changeup heavily. Hopefully this is some effective Mack Jenkins influence.

Seems to me Finnegan has been a different pitcher for a few outings now. Taking something off the fastball, controlling it better, tonight using the change up as a strikeout pitch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Suarez

[Reds Fanatic]

6 Ks for Finnegan

[Ironman92]

Finnegan looks strong as an ox at this 144 inning mark

[Reds Fanatic]

7 Ks for Finnegan. He has the Dbacks totally fooled on that changeup tonight

[Tom Servo]

Finnegan must have heard that even pollyanna Servo was ready to jump off the 'Finnegen can be a starter' bandwagon and wants to shove it in my and everyone else's faces.

[PutPeteIn]

Shades of Ron Villone.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips is robbed by Pollock

[Ironman92]

Man that is a great play by Pollock to rob Phillips of a double or triple

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 4th.

[Ironman92]

Shades of Ron Villone.

Nice...didn't he have a 16 K game?

[Reds Fanatic]

8 Ks on a 94 MPH fastball by Goldschmidt

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Thomas flies out to center

[PutPeteIn]

Nice...didn't he have a 16 K game?
Something like that and I believe it was v Arizona out there.

[Ironman92]

Damn....long week at work, late late nights, early meet in the morning and Finnegan is going to make me stay up to watch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Weeks is a total pain. 2-1 Dbacks

[Banshee]

Finnegan so far this season(and tonight) seems to live "up" in the zone w/ most of his pitches. Why he's been tatooed by some teams(w/ good high ball hitters) and why he looks so great tonight against I'd have to assume a lowball hitting team. And a lower slider just hit the seats. WEAKS!!!

[TheRedScare]

Ricky "GD" Weeks

[Ironman92]

Finnegan looks like Babe Ruth in multiple ways

[Tom Servo]

I DESPISE Rickie Weeks.

[Ironman92]

That was lengthy. Weeks is ridiculous vs Reds. Career .767 OPS but .900 OPS vs Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

21 career homers by Weeks against the Reds. Unreal.

Thomas walks

[Tom Servo]

HR seems to have knocked Finnegan out of his groove, of course.

[Ironman92]

HR seems to have knocked Finnegan out of his groove, of course.

He is making everyone look silly then Weeks hits one 440...it messed with him for sure.

2 more innings max, probably just 1 more

[PutPeteIn]

Weeks is easily the biggest Red killer since Beltran.
He will probably cycle tonight.
Shoot me now...plz ..

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk for Suarez

[Ironman92]

Weeks is easily the biggest Red killer since Beltran.
He will probably cycle tonight.
Shot me now...plz ..

Beltran or Berkman?

[Reds Fanatic]

Finnegan bunts the runner to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Tom Servo]

It's one thing if it's a Pujols or Berkman, but guys like Rickie Weeks and Bill Hall and Lyle Overbay are the most annoying Reds killers. Guys who are pretty good but have no business delivering huge blows to your team on a regular basis.

[PutPeteIn]

Beltran or Berkman?
Touche my good man...touche...

[Ironman92]

Berkman hit 52 HR 144 RBI with 1.087 OPS

Beltran career .856 vs Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton walks

[Ironman92]

Hamilton walks

/lazy

[Reds Fanatic]

Peraza hit it hard again but flies out to center. 2-1 Dbacks mid 5th

[Ironman92]

Peraza another long out....squaring it up but can't burn Pollock

[Tom Servo]

Poor Jose Havoc

[Banshee]

Reds scalding a lot of balls, just not finding any ground. BABIP is a b**ch.

[Reds Fanatic]

9 Ks for Finnegan. Ties his career high

[Reds Fanatic]

New career high. 10 Ks.

[Tom Servo]

10 strikeouts!

[Banshee]

His changeup is dialed in like the talking heads have said but his fastball is also diving and going screwball-like away from the righties. Usefull.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow. Totally dominant that inning. 11 Ks.

[TheRedScare]

I'm firmly in the "Brandon Finnegan is a reliever camp", but he looks dominant tonight. Reminds you why he was a top prospect.

[WrongVerb]

Finnegan only has four non-strikeout outs tonight. :eek:

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I'm firmly in the "Brandon Finnegan is a reliever camp", but he looks dominant tonight. Reminds you why he was a top prospect.

He keeps having games like this will it change your mind?

[texasdave]

Jay Bruce 0/4 with 4 K tonight

22 games with Mets hitting .160 with 23 K and a .526 OPS

Buyer beware.

[PutPeteIn]

11Ks thru just 5 inns is filthy.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk to Votto

[TheRedScare]

Votto hasn't looked comfortable at the plate this game or last anecdotally. Not a big deal, but getting a vibe similar to April. Its Joey, though, and a tiny sample, so I'm not worried at all.

[TheRedScare]

Finnegan only has four non-strikeout outs tonight. :eek:

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He keeps having games like this will it change your mind?

Depends how many games :lol:

[klw]

Jay Bruce 0/4 with 4 K tonight

22 games with Mets hitting .160 with 23 K and a .526 OPS

Imagine if the Reds had not moved him and he cratered like that. The Redszone meltdown would have been truly a sight to behold.

[Ironman92]

Let Finnegan go an extra inning tonight and skip his next start or give him 7-8 days rest.

[RedlegJake]

I just don't see why people still say Finnegan isn't starter material. What the heck does he have to do?

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds into a DP

[Tom Servo]

I just don't see why people still say Finnegan isn't starter material. What the heck does he have to do?
Well, at the risk of sounding like a hater, not leading the lead in walks or HRs allowed would help.

He's showing a lot though, I was pretty resigned to his life of as a reliever after his absolutely brutal stretch and the walk issue still not improving, but he's showing the recipe for success tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Schebler gets robbed on a liner back to the pitcher. Reds are hitting it hard just bad luck tonight

[TheRedScare]

I just don't see why people still say Finnegan isn't starter material. What the heck does he have to do?

5.48 FIP on the year even including the great outing so far tonight. Plus if you're into the whole scouting thing, just about every scout outside of the Reds who has looked at him has said he's a reliever.

[PutPeteIn]

The way BP is going and the fact that he is a DP machine..Id a bunted him.
Unreal.

[Reds Fanatic]

Finnegan allows a 2 out walk

[Reds Fanatic]

12 Ks for Finnegan. The most by any Reds starter this year

[Tom Servo]

Great start Finny! :thumbup:

[PutPeteIn]

Sit down Rickie!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Suarez lines out to the track in left. Reds continue to hit it hard but can't get anything to fall in.

[WrongVerb]

Bourn is a guy I think would make an excellent bench guy for the Reds next year.

That said, the Reds are going to have to start hitting these balls over the fence if they're going to keep them from being caught.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cozart pinch hitting. Great start by Finnegan tonight

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Cozart lines a double to left

[Banshee]

Welcome back Zach!

[WrongVerb]

5.48 FIP on the year even including the great outing so far tonight. Plus if you're into the whole scouting thing, just about every scout outside of the Reds who has looked at him has said he's a reliever.

How's he trending though? That's what's important during the development years of any player. Not how that player has done over the course of the entire season, but how they're trending and whether they're getting better. Has that FIP been going down over the last 10-15 starts, for instance?

[TheRedScare]

Come on Jose

[Reds Fanatic]

They should have had the runner picked off but the ball came out of Peraza's glove

[Tom Servo]

Damn, should have had it.

[kaldaniels]

Come on Jose

And he totally redeems himself with a simple catch!

[TheRedScare]

And he totally redeems himself with a simple catch!

well there you go

[Tom Servo]

I've made reference in his past few starts to certain numbers I would want to see Finnegan hit in order to view him as a possible starter moving forward. Happy to report that at least as of now he has hit one of them (K/9 over 7.0) as his K/9 currently sits at 7.2 on the year thanks to tonight's performance.

[WrongVerb]

That was a weird throw by Votto. Looked like the ball and runner got to Peraza at the same time and Peraza couldn't secure the ball in his glove and it got knocked away. No harm no foul, but these little things are going to bite the Reds in the butt someday.

[TheRedScare]

That was a classic Joey hit.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto lines a single to right

[Banshee]

And that's reason #4222 that an E in the field, on the bases or in his baseball IQ wandering at times aren't a big deal. What a hitter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips singles. 1st and 2nd

[Banshee]

JUMBO!'s fastball down to 94..? He couldn't get anyone out when he was 97-99, ugh.

[kaldaniels]

Has Jumbo gotten ummm more Jumboer or is it just me?

[Banshee]

Has Jumbo gotten ummm more Jumboer or is it just me?

I thought he looked "slimmer". Maybe he's just so enormous that it depends on what he had for lunch.

[PutPeteIn]

Has Jumbo gotten ummm more Jumboer or is it just me?
This made me laugh. Thx.

[Reds Fanatic]

Suarez grounds out to 2nd. 1 out in the 9th

[Reds Fanatic]

Cabrera strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

DeJesus singles to center.

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Holt running for DeJesus

Hamilton singles to right. 1st and 2nd.

[TheRedScare]

If Votto doesn't get a hit this inning he is no longer #elite (regardless of if he bats or not)

[TheRedScare]

Tie game

jose havoc

[Reds Fanatic]

Big hit by Peraza. Single to right. Tie game 2-2!

[Banshee]

PERAZA rbi single! tie ballgame

[Tom Servo]

Jose Havoc delivers!

[Revering4Blue]

All of a sudden.. we've got a ballgame!

[corkedbat]

Senor Havoc is growing on me. :)

[Reds Fanatic]

I know Cozart is coming back tomorrow but they have to find some way to keep Peraza in the lineup.

Intentional walk to Votto

[kaldaniels]

Jose Havoc delivers!

The fleas delivered! Double-barrel action!

[TheRedScare]

Very disappointed with Votto taking a walk in a RISP situation like that (esp with 2 outs) /s

[Banshee]

I'd walk JV too, wish our MGRS. would have done more of this historically.

[Revering4Blue]

Intentionally walking Votto.

Wimps.;)

[TheRedScare]

On a serious note

Is Peraza the SS of the future? Because it certainly isn't AlfRod, and Trahan has done little this year.

[paulrichjr]

On a serious note

Is Peraza the SS of the future? Because it certainly isn't AlfRod, and Trahan has done little this year.

Who knows for sure but he has looked really good over the past couple of weeks. Very impressive in fact.

[Tom Servo]

Is Peraza the SS of the future?
I believe so, at least for a few seasons.

Selling Trahan short though, he skipped A entirely, had a horrible first month in Daytona, but has been great since then (and had a big night tonight). He's still a ways off though, I see him coming up at age 25 or so like Cozart did.

[Reds Fanatic]

Duvall flies out to the track in center. That ball would be gone at home.

[Tom Servo]

Booooooooooooo

important thing to me that is that Finnegan isn't hung with the L, he didn't deserve it.

[Banshee]

On a serious note

Is Peraza the SS of the future? Because it certainly isn't AlfRod, and Trahan has done little this year.

Who knows. That cake's not baked long enough to tell. I know this: he's a high contact guy and seems to have good K/zone awareness. Too many unknowns beyond that. His power numbers playing in GASP should be greatly improved not to mention he should fill out going forward. I think his range might be his biggest deficit but again, we've not seen enough.

[TheRedScare]

Joey Defense

[PutPeteIn]

3 straight 2 out hits down 1 in 9th with no one on?
Anybody remember the last time the Reds pulled that off?
Clutch!
Pereza was in an 0-2 hole with 2 outs!

[Tom Servo]

I think his range might be his biggest deficit but again, we've not seen enough.
He's got to show it but I think he can do it. It's a bit silly to me how it was pretty well-documented that he was moved to 2B because the Braves were fast-tracking him and had Andrelton Simmons in place, and now it's been retconned to "He wasn't able to hack it at SS."

[kaldaniels]

Who knows. That cake's not baked long enough to tell. I know this: he's a high contact guy and seems to have good K/zone awareness. Too many unknowns beyond that. His power numbers playing in GASP should be greatly improved not to mention he should fill out going forward. I think his range might be his biggest deficit but again, we've not seen enough.

I was eerily calm when he when down 0-2 in that AB. He was going to put it in play.

[Banshee]

He's got to show it but I think he can do it. It's a bit silly to me how it was pretty well-documented that he was moved to 2B because the Braves were fast-tracking him and had Andrelton Simmons in place, and now it's been retconned to "He wasn't able to hack it at SS."

To be fair, my observance of his range is mainly clouded by his very few games he played at 2nd for the reds and he didn't look good in that limited sample size to me. Since he's played SS I've not seen him do anything poorly/slow/etc. I like the kid, more good OBP/low K guys are needed desperately.

[Fil3232]

To be fair, my observance of his range is mainly clouded by his very few games he played at 2nd for the reds and he didn't look good in that limited sample size to me. Since he's played SS I've not seen him do anything poorly/slow/etc. I like the kid, more good OBP/low K guys are needed desperately.

What's exciting is, seemingly, at least a few are on the way. And if Billy's turned a corner here in the 2nd half...

[Banshee]

Shebby: bunter extraordinaire.

[kaldaniels]

What should I be looking for on that balk? What caused it?

"Start and stop" is too vague.

[Banshee]

It took nearly 5 months but the reds finally have their best pitcher on the mound closing, sort of.

[TheRedScare]

Rasiel (sp) making this interesting

[Fil3232]

Schebler the go ahead run after bunting to beat the shift. Beautiful.

[Tom Servo]

Raisel tension

[AlaskaReds]

Man, at the beginning of this summer I wouldn’t have watched a baseball game start to finish hardly ever. Now, my last Friday night before school starts and I’m inside watching the Reds play in extra innings in a meaningless game. The Reds and baseball has certainly grown on me, can’t wait until the team is contending again.

[Banshee]

Want to know what pitchers(at least one) think when a position player comes to the mound and tells them to throw strikes/relax/etc?
What the hell do you know, get back to your position. Source? me.

[Tom Servo]

lol what am i watching

[TheRedScare]

That was really silly by BP.

[paulrichjr]

Man, at the beginning of this summer I wouldn’t have watched a baseball game start to finish hardly ever. Now, my last Friday night before school starts and I’m inside watching the Reds play in extra innings in a meaningless game. The Reds and baseball has certainly grown on me, can’t wait until the team is contending again.

Same here. In fact I am going to go to two games next week in Cincy. Very odd for me to do given the long drive and the season is meaningless.

[Tom Servo]

Walks, wild pitches, and balks will haunt.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was really silly by BP.

Not really. Bang-bang play. Had to give it a shot. Just a really good break on the ball and slide by the runner.


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[TheRedScare]

Not really. Bang-bang play. Had to give it a shot. Just a really good break on the ball and slide by the runner.


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Well, let's see if it costs them the game

[BluegrassRedleg]

lol what am i watching

LLWS, apparently.


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[Krawhitham]

It took nearly 5 months but the reds finally have their best pitcher on the mound closing, sort of.

worked out well too

[kaldaniels]

That was really silly by BP.

I mean he was safe by .1 second, hardly silly.

It didn't work out but sometimes you make the wrong choice on a bang bang play.

[kaldaniels]

Well, let's see if it costs them the game

It could. Parlayed with the balk and wild pitch.

[TheRedScare]

I mean he was safe by .1 second, hardly silly.

It didn't work out but sometimes you make the wrong choice on a bang bang play.

Might just be me, but I'm ultra conservative in situations like that. I never want to give the opponent a free out there

[BluegrassRedleg]

Free baseball!


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[Banshee]

worked out well too

I'll take the chance w/ him over anyone else on this team. He ain't perfect, but he's been pretty close since coming back from injury. He's just a smidge off tonight. It'll be good for him going forward, everyone needs a bit of struggle, this MLB stuff is hard.

[TheRedScare]

BP 1
Me 0

But yeah I'm glad this game didn't end there. I'm enjoying the heck out of this free baseball.

[kaldaniels]

Might just be me, but I'm ultra conservative in situations like that. I never want to give the opponent a free out there

You risk giving them an extra out.

You risk losing the lead.

I just didn't get calling BP "really silly".

[BluegrassRedleg]

Might just be me, but I'm ultra conservative in situations like that. I never want to give the opponent a free out there

There's times you don't. But if you have a 50/50 shot at preserving a win, you take it.


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[Kc61]

BP made the right play.

MLB players just don't allow the tying run to score if there's a play. Even a tough play.

[Banshee]

I didn't think he had a shot when it came off the bat. Of course I didn't know that BP was going to barehand it and fire a strike either. He's lost a step, but still pretty darned good if he gets to a ball. Tough choice.

[TheRedScare]

Intentional Walk Simulator 2k16

[Fil3232]

Arizona paying their respects to Votto tonight

[Tom Servo]

Another flea double, ho-hum

[Banshee]

Peraza is killing it(and JV's official plate appearances). Another int BB.

[TheRedScare]

I doubt Votto sees another AB tonight, even if they come around to him 2-3 more times. The pitcher's spot being right behind him is absolutely brutal.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Welp, when you have to run Wood out there, it's pretty much over.


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[TheRedScare]

Walking Tuffy Gosewisch. #JustBlakeWoodThings

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I doubt Votto sees another AB tonight, even if they come around to him 2-3 more times. The pitcher's spot being right behind him is absolutely brutal.

Well, Blake Wood ensured that wouldn't be a concern. Thanks Blake!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Like I said, Little League World Series.


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[Tom Servo]

Well that was a stupid way to lose.

Oh well. Great start by Finnegan.

[WVRedsFan]

Blake Wood. Sad. Wasn't he a free agent?

[Banshee]

Wow. This BP is amazing.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjHD19f2udyIo0oM/giphy.gif

[50YrRedsFan]

Blake Wood. Sad. Wasn't he a free agent?
He better be again this winter.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 69-93.

[Banshee]

He better be again this winter.

MLB traderumours say he's the 12th most expected to be traded, soon..
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/top-20-trade-candidates-august-edition-2.html

Make it so! Engage, VITE!

[WVRedsFan]

The bullpen failed tonight. Iggy gave up a run to a horrible team and Wood simply threw the ball at the ground for the winning pitch. Strange. Then he throws the ball in the air and walks off like nothing happened. Finnegan was simply amazing though. He has improved so much.

[WVRedsFan]

MLB traderumours say he's the 12th most expected to be traded, soon..
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/top-20-trade-candidates-august-edition-2.html

Make it so! Engage, VITE!Wish it had happened before tonight's game. Why no Cingrani? Only Bryan knows.

[Sea Ray]

MLB traderumours say he's the 12th most expected to be traded, soon..
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/top-20-trade-candidates-august-edition-2.html

Make it so! Engage, VITE!


He’s a cheap bullpen arm on a clear rebuilding team that has some remaining club control.

Doesn't that fit our Cin Reds to a T? I'd love for our pen to improve so much in 2017 that we can't use Wood but we first need to rid ourselves of Ohlendorf, Jumbo and others before we get to Wood. In fact in our current 'pen, after Iggy and Lorenzen, my third option would be a tie between Cingrani and Wood. Everyone else ranks below them. I don't know if we can find that many replacements in one off season.

[Tony Cloninger]

Wish it had happened before tonight's game. Why no Cingrani? Only Bryan knows.

90% of this board has been asking why is Price using Cingrani in high leverage situations while Wood has been doing great up until last night. I think you have those 2 confused.