4/14/17 Reds v. Brewers

[NebraskaRed]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9ZDZ9lUwAEdqvF.jpg:large

[cumberlandreds]

Why not Winker? Might as well throw him into the fire.

[Cant Touch This]

So the Reds now have Duvall, Hamilton, Schebler and Winker on the roster, but Kivlehan gets the nod in RF today? Must be his hot stick...

[Wolves198921]

Hope they know what they are doing because the Reds have to win today and Saturday.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Hope they know what they are doing because the Reds have to win today and Saturday.

Or what happens? They turn into pumpkins? Get demoted to AAA?

[ScotlandRed]

Why on earth do they call Winker up then start Kivlehan?

[Wolves198921]

Or what happens? They turn into pumpkins? Get demoted to AAA?
Talking about the coaching staff. Unique lineup in a game they need to win in order to take the series.

[PutPeteIn]

Cubs have already lost so we are playing with house money tonight.:eek:

[Raisor]

Why on earth do they call Winker up then start Kivlehan?

Price said that Winker will only pinch hit this weekend

[reds1869]

Winker will be back down shortly. Just a little cup of coffee.

[Big Klu]

Winker will be back down shortly. Just a little cup of coffee.

Cup of coffee in the big time!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HDhw1nRkvWI/Uajy23hMZ-I/AAAAAAAAGPw/2MeLdRevhio/s1600/cup+of+coffee+in+the+big+time.jpg

[Red Raindog]

Brewers may end up missing Scooter - Villar K's for the 18th time this season

[Tom Servo]

Feldman blowing Villar away with 90 mph gas

[Raisor]

Servo have you seen the new Servo on Netflix yet?

[Big Klu]

TV and radio broadcasts both preempted by the Blue Jackets tonight.

I really should be getting used to this by now.

[cincyinco]

TV and radio broadcasts both preempted by the Blue Jackets tonight.

I really should be getting used to this by now.

I think this is the Redszone version of the Bud Light "Get Back In The Basement" commercial.. I smell a Reds win now..

[OnBaseMachine]

Sure wish Hamilton would get back to working the count as he did in the second half of last season.

[Tadasimha]

Capt Depresso already choking up?

[Tom Servo]

Servo have you seen the new Servo on Netflix yet?
I have watched the first hour or so of the first episode and I'm digging it.

[Tadasimha]

That was a quick first inning

[Roy Tucker]

2 crap strike calls.

[OnBaseMachine]

Big strike zone against Votto there.

[Raisor]

TV and radio broadcasts both preempted by the Blue Jackets tonight.

I really should be getting used to this by now.

At least you seem to want to watch/listen.

[RiverRat13]

If strike 2 was a strike, I find it to be improbable that strike 3 should have been as well.

[Raisor]

I have watched the first hour or so of the first episode and I'm digging it.

I watched up to the first movie sign on Ep1, just what I had time for before work this morning. Great set up. Crow saying "You aren't my real daddy" had me LOL

[Tadasimha]

Thought billy had that one at first

[Roy Tucker]

Thought billy had that one at first

He tried to sell it, but not too hard. He knew.

[PutPeteIn]

Looking like Feldman might be a 2 or 3 instead of a 4 or 5. ERA at 2.13 as I prose.

[Roy Tucker]

Big strike zone tonight.

[Tom Servo]

That Eugenio, so hot right now.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cozart 2-run bomb!

[tomnuetten]

Cozart and Suarez remain red hot :)

[Tom Servo]

Cozart, so hot right now! :jump:

[RiverRat13]

Cozart!

[tomnuetten]

gorilla glue commercial in Cincinnati? poor Harambe

[PutPeteIn]

Cozy at .500....stupid

[Roy Tucker]

Feldman looks like he can handle a bat.

[oregonred]

Cozart 2-run bomb!

Cool. I thought Redszone traded him to the Mariners back in Feb...

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gorilla glue commercial in Cincinnati? poor Harambe

The company is based in Cincinnati. Just the way Harambe envisioned

[Tom Servo]

Lengthy but scoreless 3rd inning from Feldman.

[PutPeteIn]

Feldman's ERA dips below 2 at 1.98.

[Roy Tucker]

Cool. I thought Redszone traded him to the Mariners back in Feb...

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The company is based in Cincinnati. Just the way Harambe envisioned

Kemper and Mosteller Rd.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto homers to center! 3-0 Reds!

[tomnuetten]

He didn´t hit much so far, but if he did => :beerme:

[PutPeteIn]

Jooooeeeeyyyyyy!

[Tom Servo]

Votto! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs

[Roy Tucker]

I get the feeling that Votto set that HR pitch up with his first AB.

[Tadasimha]

Capt Depresso Espresso delivery!

[The Operator]

Votto!

[cincyinco]

Votto!

[oregonred]

Votto homers to center! 3-0 Reds!

Selfish, Rally killing, latte sipping machine :beerme:

[WrongVerb]

I'm calling it now: Joey is out of his slump.

[OnBaseMachine]

That was crushed.

[membengal]

That homer really was killed. Sound gave it away immediately.


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[Tom Servo]

Lot of full counts tonight against Feldman

[Tadasimha]

Things getting interesting

Pitch count is getting pretty elevated for Feldman

[Tom Servo]

Santana just muscled that one out to right.

[kaldaniels]

A TRF special:

Feldman vs his future MVP Broxton.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nasty curve there to strike out Broxton

[Reds Fanatic]

3-2 as a Pena double drives in 2 runs

[Tom Servo]

bleh. Manny freakin Pina.

[Roy Tucker]

Not a great angle by Kivlehan.

[Tom Servo]

Not a great angle by Kivlehan.
Impressive throw though, shouldn't have been close at all.

[Roy Tucker]

I thought Casey Affleck was married to Summer Phoenix. Hmmmm...

[Reds Fanatic]

Back to back hits for Kivlehan and Turner with 2 outs

[WrongVerb]

I thought Casey Affleck was married to Summer Phoenix. Hmmmm...

From his Wikipedia page:


Spouse(s) Summer Phoenix
(m. 2006; separated 2016)

[Tadasimha]

Could use a nice quick inning, Mr Feldman

[Raisor]

I thought Casey Affleck was married to Summer Phoenix. Hmmmm...

This might be the most random post in RZ history, and that's saying something

[Tom Servo]

Thom Brennaman is a 'wins' guy.

[Red Raindog]

Could use a nice quick inning, Mr Feldman

or not -- walk Villar?

[Roy Tucker]

Better boot up the bullpen.

[Red Raindog]

This might be the most random post in RZ history, and that's saying something

just wait until you get our age....... where did my bib go? .... you'll see

[Tadasimha]

This might be the most random post in RZ history, and that's saying something

...particularly coming from Raisor, "mr nonsequitor 2016"

[Slyder]

So did Thom and Chris just admit they'd take 2002 Jimmy Haynes over 2015 Johnny Cueto because Haynes won more?

[Roy Tucker]

This might be the most random post in RZ history, and that's saying something

On the FS Ohio feed, Jim Day interviewed Affleck and his girlfriend. He's in town filming a movie with Robert Redford.

I know I'm random but not the random.

[WrongVerb]

just wait until you get our age....... where did my bib go? .... you'll see

Raisor will never reach your age.

[Raisor]

...particularly coming from Raisor, "mr nonsequitor 2016"

I know, right?

[Tom Servo]

So did Thom and Chris just admit they'd take 2002 Jimmy Haynes over 2015 Johnny Cueto because Haynes won more?
Pretty much, a mind-numbing conversation. Steve Trachsel once won 15 games on a great Mets team despite throwing only 164 innings in 30 starts with a 4.97 ERA and an equal number of walks and strikeouts.

[Tadasimha]

or not -- walk Villar?

Definitely not. Was hoping he could get through six

[Raisor]

Raisor will never reach your age.

I like microwave burritos so that's probably true

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On the FS Ohio feed, Jim Day interviewed Affleck and his girlfriend. He's in town filming a movie with Robert Redford.

I know I'm random but not the random.

RZ needs annotations

[Tadasimha]

Okay, if youre going to pitch around him and your pitchers count is up, why not save the four pitches and just walk him from the dugout?

[Tom Servo]

Too many walks by Feldman tonight, thankfully the ball has stayed in the yard...so far.

[OnBaseMachine]

Time to go to the pen.

Brilliant move walking Villar for the second time tonight.

[Raisor]

Too many walks by Feldman tonight, thankfully the ball has stayed in the yard...so far.

7 innings or bust.

[Tom Servo]

7 innings or bust.
Not happening.

[Roy Tucker]

7 innings or bust.

Not happening. Feldman is running on fumes.

[Roy Tucker]

Oh jeez. This isn't good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Another walk by Feldman. Has walked the bases loaded this inning

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Wow he is leaving Feldman in.

[OnBaseMachine]

Leaving Feldman in here is a terrible decision.

[Raisor]

Not happening. Feldman is running on fumes.

Don't care. It's literally his only job.

[Wolves198921]

D1 pitching has to be better than this. MLB pitchers shouldn't have trouble finding the plate.

[Donder]

Leaving Feldman in here is a terrible decision.

Santana's beard is a terrible decision.

[Tadasimha]

Another walk by Feldman. Has walked the bases loaded this inning

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Wow he is leaving Feldman in.

Must think he can either get the next two or get a dp

[Tom Servo]

Don't care. It's literally his only job.
You expect 224 innings from Feldman this year?

[Raisor]

If the goal is to win Feldman and Bronson should be released today and just go with the 5 best starters

[Donder]

Don't care. It's literally his only job.

Did you notice the Reds are winning this game?

[Reds Fanatic]

Big DP to end the inning!

[Raisor]

You expect 224 innings from Feldman this year?

Nope because eventually they'll replace him with Disco or Homer

[Roy Tucker]

Welp. I guess that's why I don't manage.

[Tom Servo]

Yesiree!

[Red Raindog]

Must think he can either get the next two or get a dp

Price is a genius -- or very lucky

[OnBaseMachine]

Still think it was a terrible decision.

[RedsBaron]

DP! Whew.

[Tadasimha]

Price read that double play in Feldmans eyes...or so thom implied he could

[Donder]

If the goal is to win Feldman and Bronson should be released today and just go with the 5 best starters

Who are your best 5 right now?

[Raisor]

Did you notice the Reds are winning this game?

If the goal is to win he shouldn't be starting at all.

[Roy Tucker]

Santana's beard is a terrible decision.

Peraza's is a close second. It's got that Abe Lincoln/Amish vibe.

[Tom Servo]

If the goal is to win Feldman and Bronson should be released today and just go with the 5 best starters
The goal is to develop players and not experience what we saw in the 2nd half of 2015 again.

You said it yourself that Feldman is almost certainly not going to be in the mix in a few months, why are you so upset about some April starts?

[OnBaseMachine]

Two first pitch outs by our leadoff hitter tonight.

[Chip R]

I would give Mr. Feldman the rest of the night off.

[Tadasimha]

Take some pitches, billy.

He was doing it earlier this season, whats causing the hack attack lately?

[Donder]

If the goal is to win he shouldn't be starting at all.

I'm guessing you have Finnegan, Garrett, Romano, Reed, and...?

[Tom Servo]

Jose pls

[Donder]

Two first pitch outs by our leadoff hitter tonight.

Getting hitting advice from Joey again.

[Reds Fanatic]

I would give Mr. Feldman the rest of the night off.

Yes at 104 pitches that should be it. It is a miracle they got out of that last inning without damage. Wood is warming up so I assume he is coming in.

[CmdrCody]

Hopefully Marty Feldman is done for the night, "What Hump?"

[Tadasimha]

We dont care about the yankees-cards, thom

[Tom Servo]

Thom right now:

https://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/cardinals-fan-jeter.jpg?w=547&h=301

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto refused that walk.

Reds hitters rank 28th in MLB with only 23 walks.

[Roy Tucker]

Thom waxes orgasmic.

[Raisor]

Who are your best 5 right now?

Finnegan
Garrett
Romano
Reed
Stephenson

With Davis replacing Stephenson when he's off the DL.

Bronson and Feldman are only on the roster to eat innings. If they can't do that go with the kids.

[Tadasimha]

Thom waxes orgasmic.

Thanks for forcing that image into my brain

[Donder]

Finnegan
Garrett
Romano
Reed
Stephenson

With Davis replacing Stephenson when he's off the DL.

Bronson and Feldman are only on the roster to eat innings. If they can't do that go with the kids.

I disagree that Stephenson gives you a better chance to win right now than Feldman. Actually I disagree with Rookie over Feldman too. But hey, message boards are made for disagreements.

[Raisor]

The goal is to develop players and not experience what we saw in the 2nd half of 2015 again.

You said it yourself that Feldman is almost certainly not going to be in the mix in a few months, why are you so upset about some April starts?

If the goal is get innings from Feldman and Bronson then shouldn't they throw innings regardless of outcome?

[Reds Fanatic]

Balk on Wood moves the runners to 2nd and 3rd. Reds pitchers living on the edge all night

[Slyder]

Can we please get rid of the entire booth? Someone needs to take a mic and remind them they're employees of the CINCINNATI REDS not St. Louis. If they want wax poetic about the Cards they need to go work in St Louis.

[Tom Servo]

If the goal is get innings from Feldman and Bronson then shouldn't they throw innings regardless of outcome?
Bronson went 6 yesterday, Feldman went 5 today. Not the best scenario, but it's not Alfredo Simon territory.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tie game as a run scores on a ground out to short

[OnBaseMachine]

If you make a hitter look bad on a slider, why come back with a hittable fastball?

[Roy Tucker]

Same reason you groove a high fastball to Pina on an 0-2 count.

[Red Raindog]

Gomes would of had that one....

[OnBaseMachine]

Awful pitching this inning by Wood.

0-2 single on a pitch right down the middle
Hittable fastball after making the guy look bad on a slider the pitch before
0-2 single on a pitch right down the middle

[HokieRed]

0-2 slider right in the center of the plate, at least as Gameday had it.

[WrongVerb]

Price is a genius -- or very lucky

High leverage situation and don't bring in high leverage reliever?

[sdwagers]

Somebody get Kivelehan a map...

Because he's completely lost playing RF... goodness.

[Reds Fanatic]

This is turning ugly fast. Thames homers to right center. 6-3 Brewers

[HokieRed]

Somebody get Kivelehan a map...

Because he's completely lost playing RF... goodness.

Too much positional flexibility[?]

[OnBaseMachine]

Sweet pitching this inning. Peralta makes Thames look bad on a slider. Throws him a 1-2 fastball! 6-3 game.

[Donder]

Now they're starting to look like the Reds we expected. [emoji53]


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[sdwagers]

Thames is a modern day Clubber Lang playing for the Brew Crew.

[ochoa30]

Reds making a very bad team look good the last few days. Bad game calling as well. To many fastballs in pitchers counts. Ugh!

[mth123]

Astin > Wood

[Raisor]

Bronson went 6 yesterday, Feldman went 5 today. Not the best scenario, but it's not Alfredo Simon territory.

Haven't everyone and their mothers been saying that the bullpen is having to work too much?

Those 2 guys were specifically brought in to help with that. It's why I'm for having them pitch 7 innings every time out regardless of results.

If the goal is to win as many games as possible, they aren't the guys that should be on the team.
If the goal is to protect the young pitching, which includes the bullpen guys, then they need to just suck it up and let their brains get bashed in.

I'm not sure those things are compatible.

[Freak25]

Could've been out of this inning a couple of times. :(

[OnBaseMachine]

As poorly as the pitch selection has been, to be fair, Kivlehan dropping out #3 has cost the Reds three runs.

[ochoa30]

Blake wood is what he is. Control just isn't good enough. Gets by on stuff and will have outings like this once in a while. Era will be around 4. Should never pitch in a one run game.

[Tom Servo]

Haven't everyone and their mothers been saying that the bullpen is having to work too much?

Those 2 guys were specifically brought in to help with that. It's why I'm for having them pitch 7 innings every time out regardless of results.

If the goal is to win as many games as possible, they aren't the guys that should be on the team.
If the goal is to protect the young pitching, which includes the bullpen guys, then they need to just suck it up and let their brains get bashed in.

I'm not sure those things are compatible.
I don't care about the winning much, and I don't want to see the kids get destroyed.

[ochoa30]

As poorly as the pitch selection has been, to be fair, Kivlehan dropping out #3 has cost the Reds three runs.

True. But it happens with backups. That's why they are backups. He has two hits and pitching needs to pick up the Defense some times. God knows it's been the other way around much more often this year.

[Raisor]

I don't care about the winning much, and I don't want to see the kids get destroyed.

So keep Feldman in there, which is what I was saying.

[Wolves198921]

Well it looks like I can lower my expectations. This one is over

[ochoa30]

Also gotta say Thames looks really good. Nice pickup by Milwaukee.

[ochoa30]

Well it looks like I can lower my expectations. This one is over

We're facing the Brewers and it's the sixth inning. Wouldn't say it's over quite yet.

[Tom Servo]

So keep Feldman in there, which is what I was saying.
I'm not in favor of 'punishing' veterans. He went 5, the Blake Woods should be able to do their job.

[OnBaseMachine]

Why waste Lorenzen in a game you trail by 3 runs?

[kaldaniels]

I want so bad to see Raisor's "You don't get to stop until you record 21 outs" play out.

[ochoa30]

Feel like this guy would walk everyone if they take some pitches. At least make him throw it over.

[WVRedsFan]

Feldman and Arroyo the first two games and and a true rookie on Sunday. Have mercy.

[Donder]

I know Kivlehan is 2-2 but I bat Schebler or Winker here.


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[Raisor]

I'm not in favor of 'punishing' veterans. He went 5, the Blake Woods should be able to do their job.

It's not "punishment" it's his only job. "Go out and pitch 7 innings. It's why we signed you."

[Donder]

Wish we had 3 catchers tonight. We could bat Schebler or Winker here. ;)


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[Kc61]

I'm not in favor of 'punishing' veterans. He went 5, the Blake Woods should be able to do their job.

Price fan here. Haven't watched the game, just scrolled through to see what happened.

Bryan, you are heavily overusing Blake Wood. Sixth appearance in 11 games. Most on the team.

He's a good reliever, but if you throw a guy out there constantly he's going to blow up eventually.

I assume he was facing righties. But that doesn't matter, you have 38 relievers. Somebody else should have been called upon tonight.

[_Sir_Charles_]

HBP, 2 on 2 out.

nobody warming...but Gennett in the on deck circle

[Tadasimha]

PK wears it well

[OnBaseMachine]

Very borderline strike call on 3-0 to Turner.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Whiff to end the threat

[Raisor]

I want so bad to see Raisor's "You don't get to stop until you record 21 outs" play out.



You don't sign Scott Feldman because you think he's going to help you win. You sign him because he's expendable. Everyone in baseball knows he's only on the team until they can replace him with a kid or Disco or Homer.

[OnBaseMachine]

Two fastballs right down the middle and Turner swings through them.

[Raisor]

Price fan here. Haven't watched the game, just scrolled through to see what happened.

Bryan, you are heavily overusing Blake Wood. Sixth appearance in 11 games.

He's a good reliever, but if you throw a guy out there constantly he's going to blow up eventually.

I assume he was facing righties. But that doesn't matter, you have 38 relievers. Somebody else should have been called upon tonight.

I'd rather they overwork Wood than someone with a future.

[ochoa30]

Two fastballs right down the middle and Turner swings through them.

Yeah, really don't know how you miss that 3-1 pitch. Thigh high right down Broadway. Sucks to miss that opportunity.

[Kc61]

I'd rather they overwork Wood than someone with a future.

I'd rather they don't overwork anybody. It doesn't lead to successful pitching.

[Raisor]

I'd rather they don't overwork anybody.

Then the starters, especially Bronson and Feldman, need to go longer.

[RedsLvr]

Would have loved to see Lorenzen an inning ago. Too bad there's no lead to hold onto anymore. Waste of an outing.

[OnBaseMachine]

Again, I fail to understand the logic behind using Lorenzen down three in the 7th. This is a perfect spot for Cody Reed.

[Tom Servo]

It's not "punishment" it's his only job. "Go out and pitch 7 innings. It's why we signed you."That's not how it works. Again, you'd theoretically be asking Feldman for 224 innings across a season in that case.

[Roy Tucker]

That's going to leave a mark.

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Don't get Lorenzen in this spot.

[mth123]

Wood has pitched one third of an inning each on Tues and Wed. He didn't pitch last night. Doesn't seem like he's overworked to me.

[kaldaniels]

You don't sign Scott Feldman because you think he's going to help you win. You sign him because he's expendable. Everyone in baseball knows he's only on the team until they can replace him with a kid or Disco or Homer.

Then pause.

Everyone in baseball know you aren't able to have some run-down vet throw 7 innings each time come hell or high water.

The Reds did not sign Feldman expecting 7 innings each time. Why do you say that?

[Kc61]

Then the starters, especially Bronson and Feldman, need to go longer.

Sure, but the team has six dozen relievers and many are rested tonight. Wood doesn't need a sixth appearance.

Where is Cody Reed, Stephenson? Why wait until now for Lorenzen? Cingrani still on the team? I can't even remember all the names.

Price does this sometimes, he temporarily falls in love with one reliever and overuses him.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow 4 hits for Pina tonight. Just an all around ugly game tonight

[ochoa30]

Jeez billy. What are you doing there? Knew the Reds would come back down to earth. Just didn't think it would be the Brewers to bring them back.

[HokieRed]

Seems to me part of the problem is that the pen, despite mostly having 8 members, really only has 6 fully usable members and 2 special cases--Reed and Stephenson--who somehow have to be spotted according to when it will be best for their development and who don't really have the manager's full confidence--as I would say is evidenced by the fact we've got Lorenzen in here now with a 3 run deficit when it's, as OBM has pointed out, the obvious spot for Reed.

[Kc61]

Even if they lose tonight, they're 7-4, that's very good, no tragedy here.

Don't want to see Blake Wood tomorrow. Send him to a spa for a couple of days.

[mth123]

Then pause.

Everyone in baseball know you aren't able to have some run-down vet throw 7 innings each time come hell or high water.

This is the best point so far. Dumpster diving and eating innings don't go together. Mike Leake, Ian Kennedy, Lance Lynn, Jason Hamel, those are what inning eaters look like. Feldman and Arroyo are borderline 5th starters/swingman on the brink of being out of the game completely. Aiming low usually lets you hit exactly what you aim for.

[Reds Fanatic]

That takes care of tonight. 9-3 Brewers

[Donder]

Ok Raisor, I'm coming around. Feldman could've done better than this. [emoji1]


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[ochoa30]

Lol, the Brewers. Well, we suck again. Look forward to Romano on Sunday.

[Kc61]

Seems to me part of the problem is that the pen, despite mostly having 8 members, really only has 6 fully usable members and 2 special cases--Reed and Stephenson--who somehow have to be spotted according to when it will be best for their development and who don't really have the manager's full confidence--as I would say is evidenced by the fact we've got Lorenzen in here now with a 3 run deficit when it's, as OBM has pointed out, the obvious spot for Reed.

Stephenson and Reed should be used more. They did well last time. I agree with them in the MLB pen, but they should be used.

If they are messing up, take them out.

Bold to keep them in the bigs, weak not to use them.

[OnBaseMachine]

This game is over and Lorenzen is probably now unavailable to pitch tomorrow. Brilliant.

[HokieRed]

Bullpen being badly exposed tonight. We're going to need 15 arms out there to get through the season.

[ochoa30]

Bullpen being badly exposed tonight. We're going to need 15 arms out there to get through the season.

They've had a bad night. Still think they are much improved. Obviously weren't going to keep up that early season pace.

[The Operator]

Welp.

It's almost like they couldn't maintain the hot start when they're only getting 4+ innings from their starters.


That has to change..

[RedsLvr]

I hate the shift.

[Kc61]

This game is over and Lorenzen is probably now unavailable to pitch tomorrow. Brilliant.

Lorenzen can pitch two days in a row. In any event, Iglesias, Cingrani, Storen, probably will be available. Plus maybe Reed or Stephenson depending on who mops up tonight.

[Roy Tucker]

Man. This game has really gone to the dogs.

[The Operator]

Reds sure haven't been too successful using defensive shifts so far this season.

[Raisor]

Then pause.

Everyone in baseball know you aren't able to have some run-down vet throw 7 innings each time come hell or high water.

The Reds did not sign Feldman expecting 7 innings each time. Why do you say that?

It's like my opinion man on what they should be doing.

[RedsLvr]

Reds sure haven't been too successful using defensive shifts so far this season.

Has caused a crap ton more runs than it's prevented, that's for sure

[Mutaman]

On the bright side, this'll start clearing out the front runners.

[Donder]

...want to go to bed but afraid I might miss Winker's first at bat...


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[HokieRed]

I agree with Raisor on the innings from marginal starters issue, though I'd push for a little different partial solution. One more good start at L'ville from Adleman and I'd bring him up and say goodbye to Bronson.

[Raisor]

That's not how it works. Again, you'd theoretically be asking Feldman for 224 innings across a season in that case.

Only if you don't think Reed, Stephenson, Disco, or Homer won't replace him st some point

[ochoa30]

Crazy how many guys throw high 90's nowadays. I remember being amazed by it back even 10 years ago.

[The Operator]

Goggles Man has entered the ballgame.

[Tom Servo]

Wither PutPeteIn?

[The Operator]

Nice K on a slider for Reed after initially falling behind 2-0

[OnBaseMachine]

Scooter Gennett now playing RF.

Jesse Winker's family flew in to watch him. No better time than now to put him in.

[Freak25]

Wither PutPeteIn?

Haha. I was just thinking the same thing! I need some of his optimism right now.

[Raisor]

Scooter Gennett now playing RF.

Jesse Winker's family flew in to watch him. No better time than now to put him in.

It was announced pre-game he's not going to be playing in the field this series. Only up to pinch hit

[Freak25]

As bad as the Bullpen has been tonight, suspect play in the field blew this game WIDE OPEN.

[OnBaseMachine]

Strikeout, groundout, strikeout for Reed. He threw some very impressive sliders.

[Roy Tucker]

I feel like I'm missing the point on Feldman. Sure, you want 7 innings from the guy. But he was lucky as crap to get by with only 3 runs in 5 innings on 104 pitches. He was totally gassed and even my wife thought he looked cooked. Price was supposed to keep him in? Really?

[The Operator]

Niiice slider makes K #2 for Cody.

Very nice inning overall.

[HokieRed]

Goggles Man has entered the ballgame.

Too bad he didn't start it.

[Roy Tucker]

It was announced pre-game he's not going to be playing in the field this series. Only up to pinch hit

Did he forget to bring his glove?

[ochoa30]

Too bad he didn't start it.

Yep, can't wait till he's back in the rotation over arroyo or Feldman. Mostly arroyo though. That needs to happen yesterday.

[Raisor]

I feel like I'm missing the point on Feldman. Sure, you want 7 innings from the guy. But he was lucky as crap to get by with only 3 runs in 5 innings on 104 pitches. He was totally gassed and even my wife thought he looked cooked. Price was supposed to keep him in? Really?

It depends on what you think the season goal is. If you think the Reds really have a shot at contending this season, and every win is important, then you absolutely pull him (or you never actually start him in the 1st place).

If the goal is to protect the young pitchers, including the bullpen, and the bullpen has already been taxed because of all the short starts, then yes Feldman should be out there taking one for the team.

[OnBaseMachine]

Reed just threw a filthy changeup to Arcia on 1-0.

[ochoa30]

It depends on what you think the season goal is. If you think the Reds really have a shot at contending this season, and every win is important, then you absolutely pull him (or you never actually start him in the 1st place).

If the goal is to protect the young pitchers, including the bullpen, and the bullpen has already been taxed because of all the short starts, then yes Feldman should be out there taking one for the team.

Sorry, but this just isn't realistic. You always play to win the game. Regardless if you may or may not contend. What kind of message does it send to fans if Feldman comes back out and gets bombed. Anyone could see he was done. Just because he is old doesn't mean you can just pitch him until his arm falls off. Unfortunately tonight the bullpen didn't do any better but the Reds have a billion pitchers in the pen this year for a reason, they are expecting some short outings from the starters.

[OnBaseMachine]

Hey Thom, the count was 3-1.

[The Operator]

Second very nice inning from the Code-Man.

[OnBaseMachine]

Six up, six down for Cody Reed. Two K's, three groundouts, and a routine fly out.

[ochoa30]

Six up, six down for Cody Reed. Two K's, three groundouts, and a routine fly out.

Very nice once again. Unbanish this man from the pen, haha.

[Tony Cloninger]

If you only use Lorenzen when there are only leads or they are tied.....well there is still a chance he could sit for 5-6 games in a row this season.

I do agree as now with the team winning more often than expected that Reed should have been used. Maybe they are worried about Romano going only 5, but your still have Robert
to back him up.

[HokieRed]

If the manager had really had confidence in Reed to fulfill the role he is supposed to be here for--to come in on the heels of a short start--we may very well have won this game. Reed comes in top 6, Brewers might yet have 2. Nothing on this team seems clearer to me than that Cody Reed should be in the rotation.

[Raisor]

Sorry, but this just isn't realistic. You always play to win the game. Regardless if you may or may not contend. What kind of message does it send to fans if Feldman comes back out and gets bombed. Anyone could see he was done. Just because he is old doesn't mean you can just pitch him until his arm falls off. Unfortunately tonight the bullpen didn't do any better but the Reds have a billion pitchers in the pen this year for a reason, they are expecting some short outings from the starters.

At some point a starter is going to have to go out there and save the bullpen. I'd much rather it be Feldman than Garrett (as an example)

[WVRedsFan]

The bullpen fails us for maybe the second time this year. This will be a real roller-coaster all year. Buckle your seat belts. It will be a rough ride.

[ochoa30]

At some point a starter is going to have to go out there and save the bullpen. I'd much rather it be Feldman than Garrett (as an example)

I hear you but I don't think that point is 10 games into this season.

[Tony Cloninger]

Tuco.......There are two type of pitchers in this world. Those who can carry you every 4th or 5th day and those who bury your bullpen every 4th and 5th day, then the day after that.

[Donder]

Cut him.


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[ochoa30]

Let's hope for good Finnegan tomorrow

[Freak25]

Well, I stayed up to see Winker's first AB. Strikeout.

Let's get 'em tomorrow, Redlegs!

[Roy Tucker]

At some point a starter is going to have to go out there and save the bullpen. I'd much rather it be Feldman than Garrett (as an example)

I understand your logic but I just don't see doing that. I can see if you're at the end of a game or down by a bazillion runs. I've seen guys take one for the team then. But you'll lose your clubhouse if you leave a totally gassed starter to get abused when sitting on a stocked bullpen. You still make a best effort to win the winnable games.

[WVRedsFan]

Game over and not much to look forward to in the next two games. And so it goes. Yet 7-4 is a lot better than I expected. Bronson and Feldman did what everyone thought they woo, but the big loser in the last two games has been the bull pen with an anemic offense. The emergency starter for the Brewers out-pitched the has-been and the rest is history.

[Raisor]

I understand your logic but I just don't see doing that. I can see if you're at the end of a game or down by a bazillion runs. I've seen guys take one for the team then. But you'll lose your clubhouse if you leave a totally gassed starter to get abused when sitting on a stocked bullpen. You still make a best effort to win the winnable games.

And that brings me back full circle. If Feldman isn't going to be able to regularly give the team 7 innings, it doesn't really make much sense to have him in the rotation.

I'd rather have Reed out there. At least Reed has upside.

[Roy Tucker]

And that brings me back full circle. If Feldman isn't going to be able to regularly give the team 7 innings, it doesn't really make much sense to have him in the rotation.

I'd rather have Reed out there. At least Reed has upside.

Ok, I see your points. But nothing is certain in the game of baseball. That's why I like it. Feldman may or may not give you a quality start. If I knew when he was going to do it, I'd be rich.

[HokieRed]

I think we've seen Feldman's limit is going to be about six, and I'm all in favor of leaving him out there till he gets to that point. But realistically it looks like 6, not 7. I'm hoping we can at least get Bronson out and Adleman in and get six every time out from him. Then if Finnegan can get to a consistent six, it'll be a start anyway.

[Big Klu]

At least you seem to want to watch/listen.

I'm trying to come around, but it's mainly out of habit. I don't believe in this team (not one bit). However, it seems that other forces are trying to convince me to stay away. This is already the fifth game that has been preempted for other programming on my cable, and I anticipate that tomorrow might be the sixth, since the Cavaliers also play an afternoon game tomorrow.

[Big Klu]

Since I was in media blackout mode AGAIN, I missed tonight's game. (Doesn't sound like I missed much.) Anyway, here's the update, for those of you interested in such things.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Jay Bruce - 233
8. Joey Votto - 224
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[OnBaseMachine]

Game over and not much to look forward to in the next two games. And so it goes. Yet 7-4 is a lot better than I expected. Bronson and Feldman did what everyone thought they woo, but the big loser in the last two games has been the bull pen with an anemic offense. The emergency starter for the Brewers out-pitched the has-been and the rest is history.

Brandon Finnegan and the MLB debut of Sal Romano aren't worth looking forward to?