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klw
04-16-2017, 11:04 AM
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Adelman up and into the pen, Winker down.

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redsfaninbsg
04-16-2017, 12:17 PM
Will this game get played?

CySeymour
04-16-2017, 12:43 PM
I know it's only one game, but why does Price think Alcantara needs to hit more often than Suarez or Cozart?

cincyinco
04-16-2017, 12:47 PM
I know it's only one game, but why does Price think Alcantara needs to hit more often than Suarez or Cozart?

Maybe he thinks Alcantara will see more FB in front of Votto? I don't mind it at all. Alcantara hasn't been great at all so far.. So it's either time to get him some playing time and see if he can get going, or perhaps cut bait and find someone else to strengthen the bench.

traderumor
04-16-2017, 01:06 PM
No TV?

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Tony Cloninger
04-16-2017, 01:08 PM
Just like Dusty, Price is too lazy to erase the 2B spot from where it is at based on who is playing it. You can find out just as much about what he can do in the 6th spot as you can from the 2nd about him.
Put Cozart in there at least, play the hot hand for a game.

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:11 PM
97 and 98 to start!

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:14 PM
Got him!

Sal, rethink this goatee.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:14 PM
Sixth mlb debut this season for the Reds
12208

Romano Nation!

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:16 PM
oof Alcantara

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:16 PM
"Alligator Arms" Alcantara

VR
04-16-2017, 01:18 PM
"Alligator Arms" Alcantara

Someone remind me what his good qualities are?

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:18 PM
Kind of funny Thom and Chris think Sal's throwing so hard because it's his first game and he's all pumped up. But no, this is pretty much how hard normally he throws.

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:19 PM
why can nobody throw strikes lol

VR
04-16-2017, 01:20 PM
So far he's fitting into the profile for the rest of the staff. "We throw really hard and have good stuff, but we're going to throw a LOT of balls to make it interesting"

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:21 PM
Someone remind me what his good qualities are?

His first and last name start with the same letter

VR
04-16-2017, 01:22 PM
His first and last name start with the same letter

I knew it had to be something. Thank you.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:22 PM
So far he's fitting into the profile for the rest of the staff. "We throw really hard and have good stuff, but we're going to throw a LOT of balls to make it interesting"
In the last several months in the minors his walk rate has been microscopic. Probably just nerves to start.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:23 PM
When you play kids...

UPRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:26 PM
His first and last name start with the same letter

He's allowing Winker to get regular ab's in Louisville, plus he's helping Louisville be more competitive.

NeilHamburger
04-16-2017, 01:26 PM
Looks like the bullpen will be needed by the 5th again.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:27 PM
35 pitches!!

RedsfaninMT
04-16-2017, 01:28 PM
Looks like the bullpen will be needed by the 5th again.

Dropping foul balls makes that likely.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:28 PM
Clearly overthrowing. He'll be fine but Alcantara man, come on! Help your rookie pitcher out!

androosh
04-16-2017, 01:29 PM
Dropping balls makes that likely.I didn't turn the game on in time to see this. How many pitches would he have been at for the inning had it been caught?

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:29 PM
Alright, you got out of it Sal.

Dump a cup of water over your head and go out next inning and just challenge them over the plate.

NeilHamburger
04-16-2017, 01:29 PM
That drop by AA is just inexcusable.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:29 PM
Billy using two hands - trolling AA

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:31 PM
I kinda get why they do it, but the whole FS Ohio thing about always showing a rookie's family in the crowd just makes me so much more stressed. You are potentially in real time showing someone disappoint their family.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:33 PM
Nice AB Billy! Let's get running!

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:34 PM
Nice ab, Billy

Take that bag

texasdave
04-16-2017, 01:34 PM
This is really the first time that I have seen Romano pitch. Would anyone consider his delivery high-effort?

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:35 PM
oops

kaldaniels
04-16-2017, 01:35 PM
No smiling after getting thrown out Billy.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:35 PM
bleh

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:35 PM
Sitting next to some lady eating mcdonalds at the airport and I'm about to puke all over her

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:36 PM
Not a good jump

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:37 PM
One of my frustrations with Billy is his impatient at first trying to steal. Should be 1-0 Reds.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:37 PM
Yeah, poor jump by billy and a great throw. Another walk, maybe just take everything and see if he'll walk in some runs. Lol. Check that, base hit by Joey. Nice!!

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:38 PM
Alcantara walk, Votto single.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:38 PM
Votto says forget taking pitches - im joey votto and you're not, Thom

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:39 PM
Votto says forget taking pitches - im joey votto and you're not, Thom
It's so strange to me that of all things to look below the surface stats on, pitch counts are Thom's opus.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:40 PM
ugh, great play by Shaw at 3rd base for the double play.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
There you go. Gonna need all the runs they can get.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
Good thing he didn't strike out.

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
what is a travis shaw?

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
Nice play there, robs the Reds of a run and Duvall of a hit. Hopefully sal can have some quick innings coming up.

NeilHamburger
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
Man, some really bad luck there. If Billy doesn't get thrown out, and if Shaw doesn't become Brooks Robinson then the Reds probably get 3 that inning.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:41 PM
Good glove work saves a run for the brewers - tip the cap

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:42 PM
what is a travis shaw?
Lyle Overbay but with positional flexibility.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:45 PM
who the hell is Manny Pina and why can't the Reds get him out

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:45 PM
Adelman may get in todays game by the third

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:45 PM
okay this isn't super ideal

MBZags
04-16-2017, 01:47 PM
who the hell is Manny Pina and why can't the Reds get him out

At least he can't run the bases.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:47 PM
surprised that ball went that far, wow.

VR
04-16-2017, 01:47 PM
Hamilton not getting the gold glove last year was a terrible oversight.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 01:48 PM
All right, sally - roll a 643 and take a break

I need to type faster

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:48 PM
shut up Thom

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:49 PM
Sal gon throw a 300 pitch complete game shut out

Kc61
04-16-2017, 01:51 PM
Just joining, not surprised Peraza off today, but would have gone with Gennett. Scooter is hitting well and facing his old team, a little extra motivation.

Small nit pick.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:52 PM
Hamilton not getting the gold glove last year was a terrible oversight.

Idk, it's hard to win a gold glove if you can't play a full season. He's great out there but I think that is what's holding him back. I know it's happened in the past but that was solidified big leaguers who were stars. Hopefully that changes this year.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:53 PM
Sal will probably only go three. Bad news for the bully.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:54 PM
I want them to find and talk to one of Sal's uncles, there's gotta be a hilariously stereotypical Italian guy in the mix.

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:54 PM
Sal will probably only go three. Bad news for the bully.

I mean, he's thrown a lot of pitches but unless he has a 40 pitch third inning he's going to go more than 3.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 01:57 PM
He needs to come out aggressive and hopefully can get 5 innings in. Jitters hopefully worked out by now.

reds44
04-16-2017, 01:58 PM
Probably time to send Alacantara to AAA

Red Raindog
04-16-2017, 01:59 PM
Alacantara is earning a quick trip out of town

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 01:59 PM
good lord

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 01:59 PM
What genius decided to put Alcantra in this game? Oh, I forgot. THE genius.

DocRed
04-16-2017, 02:00 PM
Alcantra starting over Gennet...sumfin

Chip R
04-16-2017, 02:00 PM
I want them to find and talk to one of Sal's uncles, there's gotta be a hilariously stereotypical Italian guy in the mix.

They should have some of those Mr. Redlegs mustaches around and the guy can talk in a comically Italian accent.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:00 PM
Braun goes deep. 2-0 Milwaukee.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 02:00 PM
Holy crap. Judgment.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:01 PM
Sucks for sal. It was nice knowing you Alcantara, not.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:01 PM
ah jeez

Red Raindog
04-16-2017, 02:01 PM
the second HR was deep

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Alcantra starting over Gennet...sumfin

Yeah, no idea how good Alcantara is, haven't seen him enough, but if Peraza is sitting Gennett should be playing, especially against Milwaukee.

Very annoying that Alcantara has made two errors.

3-0, Big Sal learning GABP.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Kid is worn out.

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Pretty sure when Sal gets pulled it'll be a double switch to get Alcantara out as well.

MBZags
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Pride of Washington Courthouse.


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Wolves198921
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
No pitching and the worst coach in MLB. Think I'm going to watch a movie today, if they can't even start a MLB level pitcher and second baseman then this game was over from the start.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Kid is worn out.
Appears to be the case.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Welcome to the bigs

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:02 PM
Sucks for sal. It was nice knowing you Alcantara, not.

It's not Alcantara's fault Romano just gave up 1000 feet worth of dingers lol

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
No pitching and the worst coach in MLB. Think I'm going to watch a movie today, if they can't even start a MLB level pitcher and second baseman then this game was over from the start.
You've been a pleasure this series.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
No pitching and the worst coach in MLB. Think I'm going to watch a movie today, if they can't even start a MLB level pitcher and second baseman then this game was over from the start.



https://youtu.be/PVrEwCa8nSA

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
No pitching and the worst coach in MLB. Think I'm going to watch a movie today, if they can't even start a MLB level pitcher and second baseman then this game was over from the start.

you seem nice

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
Who knows how today would have turned out if not for the miscues. Gotta feel for sal. Should be seeing adleman shortly I would guess.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
Alright, get Adleman up in the pen. Sal's not getting any better today.

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:03 PM
Give Sal a few minutes to regroup. He'll be ok, it's his first outing.

DocRed
04-16-2017, 02:04 PM
And he's worn out because of Alcantra's first error...

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 02:04 PM
Pretty sure when Sal gets pulled it'll be a double switch to get Alcantara out as well.No telling with this "brain trust."

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:04 PM
The bullpen is going to fall apart by June if the starting pitching doesn't improve.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:04 PM
It's not Alcantara's fault Romano just gave up 1000 feet worth of dingers lol

It's his fault that the guy has had a very stressful start. Make those plays and he could be cruising. Yes he gave up homers but make the plays when they should be made, period.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:05 PM
And he's worn out because of Alcantra's first error...

come on. alacantara has been ass today, but Sal's been bad on his own

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:05 PM
You've been a pleasure this series.

Having the best record in baseball really brings out the best in people.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:06 PM
It's his fault that the guy has had a very stressful start. Make those plays and he could be cruising. Yes he gave up homers but make the plays when they should be made period.

at no point today has Sal been even close to cruising

Red Raindog
04-16-2017, 02:06 PM
Have I missed a visit from the pitching coach?

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:06 PM
Give Sal a few minutes to regroup. He'll be ok, it's his first outing.

2 dingers then 7 straight balls. I'd say he's rattled. Make that back to back jacks THEN back to back 4 pitch walks. Yank him.

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 02:06 PM
Kid is done

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:07 PM
take him out Price

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:07 PM
nice pitch count for Sal

- - - Updated - - -

I blame Alacantara

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:07 PM
come on. alacantara has been ass today, but Sal's been bad on his own

His command has been spotty for sure. It's his debut. But he's clearly done today. Get him out of there. Look forward to his next start and hopefully the team can back him up better.

DocRed
04-16-2017, 02:08 PM
Gennett starting only 1 in 4 games against the club that waived him is puzzling to me..

texasdave
04-16-2017, 02:08 PM
Have I missed a visit from the pitching coach?

You snooze, you get confused.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:08 PM
Gennett starting only 1 in 4 games against the club that waived him is puzzling to me..

why? he's a bench player

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:10 PM
somebody shut the kid up on the radio feed

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:10 PM
at no point today has Sal been even close to cruising

I'm not arguing he's been good but the game could be entirely different if we have a competent second baseman. We'll never know.

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:10 PM
Gennett starting only 1 in 4 games against the club that waived him is puzzling to me..

I would have given him a second game, today.

Not a huge deal, but Reds need to give him all available opportunities at the positions he plays against RHP.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:11 PM
I would point out that we've had a lot of debates about AAA and the merits of having guys pitch there vs. throwing them into the mix. You could count on one hand the amount of AAA starts Davis and Romano each had.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:11 PM
nice pitch count for Sal

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I blame Alacantara

I'd say Alcantara didn't help, but not all the blame is on him. Romano simply hasn't been good. I'm sure the nerves affected him...you could clearly see it after the dinger IMO.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:11 PM
I would point out that we've had a lot of debates about AAA and the merits of having guys pitch there vs. throwing them into the mix. You could count on one hand the amount of AAA starts Davis and Romano each had.

i really don't understand why they're getting starts and Reed and Stephenson are in the pen

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:12 PM
Having the best record in baseball really brings out the best in people.

The opposite of front runner is rear ender

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:12 PM
The opposite of front runner is rear ender

this is a family board, sir

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:13 PM
43 balls, 36 strikes. In no way is that close to cruising regardless of what Alcantara did or didn't do.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:13 PM
They'll be better days for Big Sal.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:14 PM
OH wow! He caught that routine pop up. It's almost like it's easy and any major leaguer could do it.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:15 PM
43 balls, 36 strikes. In no way is that close to cruising regardless of what Alcantara did or didn't do.

Ok, I shouldn't have used that word. Lol. Just would have been nice to see those plays made. I don't think we'd be having this convo if they were. But who knows really.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:16 PM
this is a family board, sir

Sir? I'm no officer. What does 3 up and 3 down mean to you?

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:16 PM
Game thread hot takes almost unreadable

What's amazing is that the team is 8-4 and we have reached 30 game below .500 level of snark

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:16 PM
I would point out that we've had a lot of debates about AAA and the merits of having guys pitch there vs. throwing them into the mix. You could count on one hand the amount of AAA starts Davis and Romano each had.

The issue has generally come up with players with plenty of AAA experience - who you generally want to send back.

Stephenson has almost two years of AAA and 600 minor league innings.
Reed dominated AAA for some months.

If the point is that Romano isn't ready, I'd say that's debatable. It's his very first game against a good hitting team, in GABP, with his second baseman misplaying everything.

Davis may be short on stuff, as a fitnesse pitcher may need more time and polish.

These guys will never learn to ride a bike unless somebody takes off the training wheels.

reds44
04-16-2017, 02:17 PM
Game thread hot takes almost unreadable

What's amazing is that the team is 8-4 and we have reached 30 game below .500 level of snark

we stinks

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2017, 02:19 PM
The glass is half empty or half full - as:

Price is managing the team to win; the starters are pitching to lose, the offense is hitting to win, the defense is often fielding to lose, the bullpen is pitching to win, Price is managing the bullpen to lose (their arms by mid season).

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:19 PM
Game thread hot takes almost unreadable

What's amazing is that the team is 8-4 and we have reached 30 game below .500 level of snark


we stinks

Come on, we are at least at .578 snark level

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:20 PM
Reed dominated AAA for some months.

Well, two months.

I think you're a bit cavalier about having guys learn at the big league level. I'm a big fan of him, and still am, but Sal was the definition of 'not ready for primetime' today. I think these kind of starts, like we saw from Sal today and from Reed last year, are taxing mentally and physically.

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:20 PM
we stinks

You've been in Vegas, I'm not surprised you stink

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 02:20 PM
what is a travis shaw?

A kid from 45 miles away who's Dad was a stud closer for the Reds.

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2017, 02:22 PM
Question - do the players drive back and forth to Louisville or do they fly or take the bus? I'm wondering how Romano will get back later tonight.

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:22 PM
A kid from 45 miles away who's Dad was a stud closer for the Reds.

Jeff Shaw is tanned and rested and ready for a comeback

Strikes Out Looking
04-16-2017, 02:23 PM
A kid from 45 miles away who's Dad was a stud closer for the Reds.

I understand he's still thinking about coming back.

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 02:23 PM
why? he's a bench player

Who has not been a bench player in his MLB time and has done well early on

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:23 PM
Well, two months.

I think you're a bit cavalier about having guys learn at the big league level. I'm a big fan of him, and still am, but Sal was the definition of 'not ready for primetime' today. I think these kind of starts, like we saw from Sal today and from Reed last year, are taxing mentally and physically.

In the history of big league starts over the years sals is probably in the middle somewhere. Rookies struggle sometimes. Heck look at mike trouts first few months. Doesn't mean he wasn't ready. He earned his way here by throwing strikes and being very good. He had a bad start. I'll bet he's much better next time out.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:23 PM
What's a Kaleo?

WVRedsFan
04-16-2017, 02:25 PM
we stinksHardly. in-division opponent who just might beat us 3 out of four, a rookie pitcher who needs the best behind him, and we get this. Frustration. We hadn't seen a lot of bad decisions this year, so we get them all the same day. Anyway, the Reds have only one hit and Alacantra, betting second is still at second base. You can't make this stuff up. Off day tomorrow and we ret people after 12 games? Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:27 PM
I'll bet he's much better next time out.
I agree.

I just err on the side of preferring to have a pitcher who has been marinating in the minors as opposed to one who you aren't sure if they are fully cooked or not until you bite in.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:28 PM
Meanwhile, back in the game...that was a nice inning from Adleman.

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:28 PM
Well, two months.

I think you're a bit cavalier about having guys learn at the big league level. I'm a big fan of him, and still am, but Sal was the definition of 'not ready for primetime' today. I think these kind of starts, like we saw from Sal today and from Reed last year, are taxing mentally and physically.

I'm not cavalier about it all. As I said, it usually has come up for pitchers with more than sufficient AAA time - who you want to send back.

You cannot escape the bumps of breaking into the big leagues. There is almost no such thing as a player who is a finished product the day he joins the bigs. The pressure and excitement of breaking in alone will create difficulties in performance.

I'm not an advocate of skipping AAA altogether, there is something to be learned facing semi-big league hitters. Maybe Romano needs a couple of months there, I don't know. But eventually he's going to have to learn againt big leaguers and it won't all be pretty, it can't be avoided.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:29 PM
Nicely done, Tim

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:30 PM
Alright does Thom have to be so obnoxious about the Alcantara thing.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:30 PM
Hey, we all wish you were no relation to Marty, Thom

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:32 PM
Unfortunately good peralta has shown up since the first inning

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:32 PM
Park one, Duvall

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:33 PM
:jump: Suarez!!! 3-2 brewers

That got out in a hurry! UPPER DECKER

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Suarez homere 3-2.

Big Klu
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
What's a Kaleo?

Evidently, it's a band--the kind of band the Reds get to do a postgame concert.

On the other hand, the Pirates get bands like Chicago to do their postgame shindigs.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Geno!:jump:

That was a monster shot!

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Genooooooo

Right back in it

RedsfaninMT
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Park one, Duvall

Or get on and let Suarez park one.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Park one, Duvall

You spelled Saurez wrong

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Park one, Duvall

Wrong horse

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
A. Hugh crushed that bad boy.


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Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:34 PM
Suarez is gonna be the Reds cleanup hitter by the end of the season, book it.

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:35 PM
Can we blame being down by one on Alcantara now, or are we still supposed to blame Sal's poor start?

BCubb2003
04-16-2017, 02:36 PM
"... runs into one" never makes any sense.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 02:36 PM
Ball is carrying plus a SW wind.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 02:37 PM
Alright does Thom have to be so obnoxious

I think this is what you meant to say.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:37 PM
Suarez is gonna be the Reds cleanup hitter by the end of the season, book it.

Agreed. The way everyone is swinging currently, I'd kinda like to see Peralta lead off, Cozy second, Joey then Geno. Hit Billy 9th.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:37 PM
Can we blame being down by one on Alcantara now, or are we still supposed to blame Sal's poor start?

Pretty crazy that he apparently never made an error in the majors according to Thom before tonight. I know he hasn't played all that much but still. Picked a fine time.

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:38 PM
Ball is carrying plus a SW wind.

I assume your toupee lets you know which direction the wind is blowing

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:38 PM
Can we blame being down by one on Alcantara now, or are we still supposed to blame Sal's poor start?

They aren't mutually exclusive IMO. Alcantara didn't have the ball go over the fence twice.

Raisor
04-16-2017, 02:39 PM
Agreed. The way everyone is swinging currently, I'd kinda like to see Peralta lead off, Cozy second, Joey then Geno. Hit Billy 9th.

Peralta?

The LH reliever?

Bold strategy

Donder
04-16-2017, 02:39 PM
A kid from 45 miles away who's Dad was a stud closer for the Reds.

Whose dad the Reds are probably going to need to sign before this year's over based on the bullpen's workload.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:39 PM
"... runs into one" never makes any sense.

Except when Canseco ran into one with his head for a HR. That one fit. :O)

Donder
04-16-2017, 02:40 PM
Jeff Shaw is tanned and rested and ready for a comeback

Aw you beat me to the punch line. [emoji53]

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:40 PM
Peralta?

The LH reliever?

Bold strategy

LOL. Yes, indeed. How about maybe Peraza instead. *grin*

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:40 PM
They aren't mutually exclusive IMO. Alcantara didn't have the ball go over the fence twice.His error on the grounder to second that put a runner on first directly before the first HR was 100% his fault though. Had that out been made it would have been a solo HR rather than a 2-run HR.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 02:41 PM
I assume your toupee lets you know which direction the wind is blowing

No, it's my comb-over that gets up in the wind.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:42 PM
His error on the grounder to second that put a runner on first directly before the first HR was 100% his fault though. Had that out been made it would have been a solo HR rather than a 2-run HR.

And the actual HR? And the second HR? As I said...not mutually exclusive. They both had a hand in the score.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 02:43 PM
Peralta?

The LH reliever?

Bold strategy

Let's see if it pays off.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:43 PM
I like Adleman as the long man in the pen, I think it's the perfect role for him.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:43 PM
His error on the grounder to second that put a runner on first directly before the first HR was 100% his fault though. Had that out been made it would have been a solo HR rather than a 2-run HR.

Another thing is people assume the turn of events would have fallen the exact same way. The error was a huge part of that inning. Who knows if the homers even happen if not for it. But unfortunately they did and now the Reds are playing catch up. Such is baseball.

Donder
04-16-2017, 02:43 PM
Can we blame being down by one on Alcantara now, or are we still supposed to blame Sal's poor start?

Be original and blame Billy's CS.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 02:43 PM
Billy "White Shoes" Hamilton.

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:44 PM
Be original and blame Billy's CS.

I had actually thought about posting that as well. But then we couldn't argue about which player was at fault defensively.

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 02:45 PM
Elcantara until further notice

11larkin11
04-16-2017, 02:46 PM
I blame Rookie Davis for getting hit by a pitch, causing Sal to start, causing Billy to get caught stealing, causing Alcantara to commit an error, causing the chicken to come before the egg.

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 02:46 PM
Peralta?

The LH reliever?

Bold strategy

LaRussa lurking in the game thread?


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_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:47 PM
This is a new one. Both managers challenging the call. Reds at 2nd, brewers at 1st.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:48 PM
Gotta slide there but I doubt this gets overturned.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:48 PM
2nd baseman is off the bag when he gets the ball

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 02:48 PM
His foot is off the bag a fraction before receiving the ball. It's stupid that this is how we play the game now, but it is what it is. Should be no out.


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ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:48 PM
Adleman was safe by a mile, really counsel?

BCubb2003
04-16-2017, 02:48 PM
Dan Straily was taken out in the 6th with a no-hitter going.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 02:49 PM
This is a new one. Both managers challenging the call. Reds at 2nd, brewers at 1st.

Not sure why either one.

Barnhart with a brain cramp.

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:49 PM
Hopefully we can all agree on Tucker being called out at second is 100% on Tucker, and not on Sal, Alcantara, Price, or anybody else.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 02:49 PM
This is a new one. Both managers challenging the call. Reds at 2nd, brewers at 1st.

I'm sure this will be settled in no time.

Tom Servo
04-16-2017, 02:50 PM
Dan Straily was taken out in the 6th with a no-hitter going.
5 walks and 90+ pitches, that's our Dan.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:50 PM
Not sure why either one.

Barnhart with a brain cramp.

Apparently it was only a Reds challenge. But agreed on the brain cramp

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:50 PM
Hopefully we can all agree on Tucker being called out at second is 100% on Tucker, and not on Sal, Alcantara, Price, or anybody else.
I blame Servo

androosh
04-16-2017, 02:51 PM
I blame Servohttp://i.imgur.com/dVDJiez.gif

BCubb2003
04-16-2017, 02:51 PM
Not sure why either one.

Barnhart with a brain cramp.

Walk it off.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 02:52 PM
I blame Bob Boone.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:52 PM
Hopefully we can all agree on Tucker being called out at second is 100% on Tucker, and not on Sal, Alcantara, Price, or anybody else.

Idk, if sal had thrown more strikes then tucker wouldn't be as mentally drained and could have remembered how to slide. Tough to say. :p

Donder
04-16-2017, 02:54 PM
Theoretically Adleman could finish this game if he pitches well, right?


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BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 02:55 PM
Adleman is doing some work today.


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_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 02:57 PM
WOW! Billy flashin' the leather!

Highlight reel grab!!!

Red Raindog
04-16-2017, 02:57 PM
Billy Billy Billy

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 02:58 PM
Holy cow, what a catch.


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Donder
04-16-2017, 02:58 PM
I just said aloud "he's not getting that one." Lesson learned...


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Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 02:58 PM
Yuge crowd

Seems like a bad idea to schedule such an early game on a religious holiday

Well, billy just answered some prayers so who cares!

Kc61
04-16-2017, 02:58 PM
Wonder how they are going to screw Billy out of a GG this year.

Guy is incredible.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 02:59 PM
Great play billy! Gonna get burnt playing so shallow all the time though. Wish he would take a few steps back.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 03:00 PM
Billy has got the wheels, that's for sure.

BCubb2003
04-16-2017, 03:00 PM
Statcast is going to need a Billy Hamilton filter.

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 03:00 PM
I blame Bob Boone.

Then I blame Jim Bowden

Chip R
04-16-2017, 03:00 PM
5 walks and 90+ pitches, that's our ________

Fill in the blank with pretty much any current Reds pitcher.

Red Raindog
04-16-2017, 03:00 PM
I think it was Straily that got saved by Billy so often last year

malcontent
04-16-2017, 03:01 PM
I'd like to talk to Price about Gennett starting over Peraza, at least against RHP.

Hamilton earns starts with his defense and speed. Peraza needs to do more at the plate, IMO.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:03 PM
Joey plunked. Scary at first. He's fine.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 03:03 PM
Not nice.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:04 PM
Clearly not intentional. Welsh and Thom seem to think an 0-2 pitch that got away could be. Solid analysis.

BCubb2003
04-16-2017, 03:05 PM
Stay away from the head. It's Votto's most important body part.

Chip R
04-16-2017, 03:05 PM
I'd like to talk to Price about Gennett starting over Peraza, at least against RHP.

Hamilton earns starts with his defense and speed. Peraza needs to do more at the plate, IMO.

They traded Phillips so Peraza could play every day. Platooning him doesn't do him any good.

11larkin11
04-16-2017, 03:06 PM
I'll stick with Adleman unless he gets in trouble or his spot in the order comes up in an important spot. Cingrani, Storen, and possibly even Iglesias should be good to go today, along with Wood and Peralta.

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 03:08 PM
Clearly not intentional. Welsh and Thom seem to think an 0-2 pitch that got away could be. Solid analysis.

Marty & Cowboy the opposite. Cowboy noted what he did with his hand immediately after the pitch. Clearly got away from him.


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Kc61
04-16-2017, 03:08 PM
I'd like to talk to Price about Gennett starting over Peraza, at least against RHP.

Hamilton earns starts with his defense and speed. Peraza needs to do more at the plate, IMO.

Peraza is off slowly but it's only twelve games and the Reds shouldn't change their plan based on twelve games.

Further, Cozart is a free agent. When he leaves the only SS ready is Peraza. So he has to get ready, has to play frequently, albeit at second base.

Agree that they should find spots for Scooter, but Peraza should play as much as possible.

RedlegJake
04-16-2017, 03:09 PM
just a couple thoughts

I hope Romano gets another start - first game in the majors is such a mental hurdle for pitchers. Romano pitched nothing like his progress suggests, the normal Sal has sharp control. Now he can get the bugabear big bad major league hitter thoughts out of his head and just pitch his normal game next time out

Alcantara - rarely have I been so over a young player like I am with him. Why Gennett didn't start today or why Peraza needed rest with a day off tomorrow? Just when I'm warming up to Price he does this again and these decisions with personnel are what drives me batty about him. Like last Saturdays game when he sat half the starting lineup the same day.

Adleman doesn't get much credit around here - no he's not in line for a starter's gig with all the young pitching but the guy does pitch decently enough that he should have made Arroyo or Feldman for that matter, unneccessary. I really like him for the long relief role

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:09 PM
Marty & Cowboy the opposite. Cowboy noted what he did with his hand immediately after the pitch. Clearly got away from him.


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Yeah, I mean they didn't say it was intentional but they started talking about the other hit batsmen earlier in the series. Why even bring that up. Odd.

Kc61
04-16-2017, 03:11 PM
I'll stick with Adleman unless he gets in trouble or his spot in the order comes up in an important spot. Cingrani, Storen, and possibly even Iglesias should be good to go today, along with Wood and Peralta.

I doubt Storen is available, he pitched more than an inning yesterday.

I think the main guys today are Cingrani, Wood, Reed. Iglesias for an inning maybe if necessary.

Adleman, of course, doing a good job eating innings.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:13 PM
5th dinger by Thames in this series. That's nuts.

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 03:13 PM
/sigh


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Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 03:13 PM
Thames enjoying playing in Cinci

malcontent
04-16-2017, 03:13 PM
Why do they think they can come inside to Thames?

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:14 PM
Crazy! Guy is out of his mind. Can't throw him a fastball ever.

Kc61
04-16-2017, 03:14 PM
just a couple thoughts

I hope Romano gets another start - first game in the majors is such a mental hurdle for pitchers. Romano pitched nothing like his progress suggests, the normal Sal has sharp control. Now he can get the bugabear big bad major league hitter thoughts out of his head and just pitch his normal game next time out

Alcantara - rarely have I been so over a young player like I am with him. Why Gennett didn't start today or why Peraza needed rest with a day off tomorrow? Just when I'm warming up to Price he does this again and these decisions with personnel are what drives me batty about him. Like last Saturdays game when he sat half the starting lineup the same day.

Adleman doesn't get much credit around here - no he's not in line for a starter's gig with all the young pitching but the guy does pitch decently enough that he should have made Arroyo or Feldman for that matter, unneccessary. I really like him for the long relief role

Peraza's been slumping, he played many consecutive games, he absolutely needed the day off. Agree on some of the other points, but resting Peraza was correct.

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 03:15 PM
The Brewers perpetually have some no-name that crushes the ball vs the Reds but nobody else in the league.


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11larkin11
04-16-2017, 03:16 PM
Better body: Jeff Shaw or Jeff Conine?

The Operator
04-16-2017, 03:16 PM
Just realized I made two posts in yesterday's game thread in regards to today's game.

Fail.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:17 PM
The Brewers perpetually have some no-name that crushes the ball vs the Reds but nobody else in the league.


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Very true but I think this guy will beat up some other teams too, looks great at the plate.

The Operator
04-16-2017, 03:18 PM
Very true but I think this guy will beat up some other teams too, looks great at the plate.

I'll be interested to see what happens once the scouting reports get around on him.

He's not THIS good, that we know.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Home run there sucks but adleman has done a great job today. Let's get some runs for this guy!

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Very true but I think this guy will beat up some other teams too, looks great at the plate.

I don't disagree...but ANY hitter is going to look great when they hit 5 hr's in 4 games. Just sayin'. He's leading the majors in OPS currently. Our very own Cozy is 2nd.

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 03:19 PM
Stay away from the head. It's Votto's most important body part.

More important than his knee pits?

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 03:20 PM
A manly man with a manly voice.

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:20 PM
I'll be interested to see what happens once the scouting reports get around on him.

He's not THIS good, that we know.

Agreed on that. I think he goes .275 with 30 homers though. If only because he'll face the Reds a bunch more unfortunately.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:20 PM
FWIW, nothing going on in Miami thru 7.

Ironman92
04-16-2017, 03:21 PM
5th dinger by Thames in this series. That's nuts.

Great...GREAT adjustments being made.

Next time they face him he'll be in a 1-29 slump and they'll walk him 3x

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:22 PM
Perfect bunt by Schebler

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:22 PM
I don't disagree...but ANY hitter is going to look great when they hit 5 hr's in 4 games. Just sayin'. He's leading the majors in OPS currently. Our very own Cozy is 2nd.

Yeah, but you have to actually hit the home runs. It's not like the Reds aren't trying to get him out. Clearly breaking balls are the way to go. Reds have missed badly with fastballs on most of his homers.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 03:22 PM
Schebs bunt beats the shift

ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:23 PM
That's a smart bunt against the shift. Don't see it often enough with some guys.

BluegrassRedleg
04-16-2017, 03:23 PM
Smart, unselfish play by Schebler to get the tying run to the plate.

Roy Tucker
04-16-2017, 03:28 PM
Poo.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 03:29 PM
Just missed it

gilpdawg
04-16-2017, 03:29 PM
Whose dad the Reds are probably going to need to sign before this year's over based on the bullpen's workload.

Not buying this line of thinking. If you have a 13(!) man pitching staff you should never wear out your bullpen. You've got 8 guys down there! If you can't manage that many guys workload wise then you need to find a different line of work.


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ochoa30
04-16-2017, 03:30 PM
Scooter hitting everything hard right now, glad we got to see Alcantara and batting second no less.

Tadasimha
04-16-2017, 03:31 PM
Scooter hitting everything hard right now, glad we got to see Alcantara and batting second no less.

Wouldnt mind seeing aa headed down as winker comes back up

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2017, 03:32 PM
No-no broken up btw

gilpdawg
04-16-2017, 03:33 PM
FWIW, nothing going on in Miami thru 7.

You mean a no hitter? [emoji41]


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Billy_Bearcat
04-16-2017, 03:35 PM
I love today's uniform socks. Can't find them for sale anywhere yet.