4/19/2017 - Reds vs Orioles - 7:10pm ET

[androosh]

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Orioles (no pretty image):
LF Mancini
CF Jones
3B Machado
RF Trumbo
1B Davis
C Castillo
2B Schoop
SS Hardy
P Jimenez

[durl]

Here's hoping the offense repeats last night's performance.

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[PutPeteIn]

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Orioles (no pretty image):
LF Mancini
CF Jones
3B Machado
RF Trumbo
1B Davis
C Castillo
2B Schoop
SS Hardy
P Jimenez

I really like the Reds lineup. Cozart should be up higher but it's ok.

[BluegrassRedleg]

In the house for my first game in three years. 83 degrees in Cincy on 4/19!!!


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[NeilHamburger]

Big test for Amir tonight. First two games were in pitcher friendly ballparks against offenses that were struggling. Gave up some hard hit balls that found leather. This is in GABP on a hot day, facing a big time lineup. Would really like to see him use that changeup tonight to K some people.

[PutPeteIn]

Big test for Amir tonight. First two games were in pitcher friendly ballparks against offenses that were struggling. Gave up some hard hit balls that found leather. This is in GABP on a hot day, facing a big time lineup. Would really like to see him use that changeup tonight to K some people.
Agreed. Plus the Os are chalk full of righties minus Davis.
The Os hurler has been struggling and the Reds need to jump him early just like last nite to give the kid some breathing room.
To me the 1st inn is the most important inn in a baseball game even more than the 9th because it often sets the tone of the entire game. I would venture to say more games are won and lost in the initial frames than any other time.

[Tracy Jones]

I'm here. Guaranteed win. I don't do losing game threads.

You're welcome.

[Tracy Jones]

I really like the Reds lineup. Cozart should be up higher but it's ok.

I like Cozart where he is. Brings balance. You need threats at the bottom too.

[PutPeteIn]

I like Cozart where he is. Brings balance. You need threats at the bottom too.

I'd probably have him in the 2 hole batting near .430.

[Tracy Jones]

I'd probably have him in the 2 hole batting near .430.

He ain't gonna bat .430 forever

[Red Raindog]

I know it's early but Amir looks polished

[PutPeteIn]

Garret is special guys.

[Tom Servo]

Agreed with Brantley, Amir is throwing strikes and pitching with confidence so far.

[Kilgore_Trout]

Yeeeesh, Billy.....

[Tracy Jones]

I hate the shift

[Wonderful Monds]

Trumbo is the most Trumboest looking dude ever

[Wonderful Monds]

Shhhhhhhhhhhoot.

[Tom Servo]

Orioles can slug

[Red Raindog]

Tip of the hat for limiting the inning to one run

[Tom Servo]

Amir strikes out the side but in between a pair of singles and doubles made it 1-0 Baltimore.

[NebraskaRed]

Amir did a good job limiting the damage there. He looks mature beyond his years sometimes

[membengal]

4 Ks and 0 BB through two innings is niiiiccceeee...


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[membengal]

Wtf with the sacrifice from schebler?


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[Red Raindog]

Two failed bunts
[emoji107]

[Kc61]

Problem with bunting is almost nobody can do it.

[NebraskaRed]

Cozart with an early season .500 OBP

[Red Raindog]

Wtf with the sacrifice from schebler?


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Think was a lousy attempt for a bunt single

[Tom Servo]

Did Thom almost say "Montreal" instead of Milwaukee?

[membengal]

Think was a lousy attempt for a bunt single

Yuck


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[Tom Servo]

Did Thom almost say "Montreal" instead of Milwaukee?

I rewinded MLB TV and he totally did

[Wolves198921]

Not sure why schebler bunted, but I don't put anything past this coaching staff in terms of incompetence. Zero runs

[Red Raindog]

Yuck


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Trying to beat the shift

Bunt was crap though

[Tracy Jones]

Not sure why schebler bunted, but I don't put anything past this coaching staff in terms of incompetence. Zero runs

I think you should apply for the job. I hear they take online applications

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKK

[RedTeamGo!]

Not sure why schebler bunted, but I don't put anything past this coaching staff in terms of incompetence. Zero runs

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[Tracy Jones]

Garrett definitely looks the part. There's no doubt about it.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKK

[Red Raindog]

I sense pizza tonight

[Tom Servo]

Wow, Amir making some good hitters look bad.

[RedTeamGo!]

I apologize in advance, tombstone memes incoming

[Tracy Jones]

Yeah Peraza doesnt take walks, but that 49 K-less AB streak is pretty impressive in this day and age.

[RedTeamGo!]

KKKKKK

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[Tracy Jones]

Come on guys! Ubaldo is their Arroyo!

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKK

[Tracy Jones]

And then there's Mookie Bette. Wow.

[ochoa30]

Come on guys! Ubaldo is their Arroyo!

Gotta love the reds. Make the ace look like trash. Make the trash look like an ace. Hopefully they'll get to him soon.

[Red Raindog]

Davis having some problems with Amir's offerings

[ochoa30]

And then there's Mookie Bette. Wow.

It's weird, the guy struck out 80 times last year and now all of the sudden he just doesn't do it anymore. At all.

[_Sir_Charles_]

47 pitches...36 strikes. Amir gettin' it done!

He looks fantastic. 7 punchouts thru 4. Wow.

Even more impressive...0 bb's. RobSteve...take notes.

[membengal]

Geez Garrett is impressive.


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[Tracy Jones]

It's weird, the guy struck out 80 times last year and now all of the sudden he just doesn't do it anymore. At all.

128 AB's. And here I was putting over Peraza's 49 as impressive.

[PutPeteIn]

Garrett is a phenom.

[Tracy Jones]

I really would like Arroyo to succeed. He's a good dude.

[VR]

I love the Amir.


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[Kc61]

One of those games where Reds have to overcome the opponent and the ball-strike calls.

Not only does the ump have a wide zone, but the O's catcher is pretty good at pulling the glove in for a strike call.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I know there are some here that really like Schebler...I'm not one of them. I'm more than ready to start the Winker era.

[VR]

Of course Jimenez is pitching like it's April 17th, 2010.


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[_Sir_Charles_]

Cozart's due for a big-fly

[BluegrassRedleg]

BGR rally photo... https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/6844a9ef82e6e145f8b3ef86a45aa7e0.jpg


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[Tracy Jones]

Of course Jimenez is pitching like it's April 17th, 2010.


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Or the Reds are hitting like it's 2015

[ochoa30]

Overthought that at bat with hardy. Just throw him the slider.

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKKK

[Tracy Jones]

8 K's on 56 pitches. Big league.

[RedsLvr]

Overthought that at bat with hardy. Just throw him the slider.

I don't know..looked like he struck him out to me. I don't know where it missed.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Never heard of this Mancini guy. He's got a Bonds-esque OPS early in the season.


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[Tracy Jones]

Game is in the balance right here

[RedsLvr]

Never heard of this Mancini guy. He's got a Bonds-esque OPS early in the season.


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I wouldn't be surprised to see him win ROY. Good young ball player.

[_Sir_Charles_]

BB to load 'em up for Machado

Rut-roh

[_Sir_Charles_]

Sac fly to make it 2-0

[BluegrassRedleg]

How's it look on TV? Here at the park, looks like Garrett was getting squeezed that inning.


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[Tracy Jones]

Not bad. Could've been MUCH worse

[Red Raindog]

Amir has battled

Be nice for the offense to fight back

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKKKK

56 strikes, 20 balls. Down 2-0 but impressive as hell IMO.

[Kc61]

How's it look on TV? Here at the park, looks like Garrett was getting squeezed that inning.


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Reds have had some ball-strike calls tonight that didn't work in their favor.

[ochoa30]

How's it look on TV? Here at the park, looks like Garrett was getting squeezed that inning.


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Yeah, some borderline calls on the 0-2 to hardy and a few to jones.

[PutPeteIn]

What a workhorse

[ochoa30]

2 hits off Jimenez in 4 innings is bad. Let's get something going here!

[Tom Servo]

We're gonna miss out on a full year of control on this stud for his first two starts lol

[Red Raindog]

Billy not looking good at all

[_Sir_Charles_]

Trivia question was 4 players who's last name begins with "B" who've won at least 8 gold gloves.

1 catcher, 1 shortstop, 2 outfielders.

I got Bench, Bonds, Belanger...who am I forgetting?

[ochoa30]

We're gonna miss out on a full year of control on this stud for his first two starts lol

Obviously deserved to be here from the start. Who knows what we'll be happening in 5 or 6 years. I commend the reds for doing it. Maybe it will be important to him when contract talks happen.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Damn. Paul Blair. :(

[membengal]

We're gonna miss out on a full year of control on this stud for his first two starts lol

Or, you know, they could pay him when the time comes if he's earned it.


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[mth123]

Trivia question was 4 players who's last name begins with "B" who've won at least 8 gold gloves.

1 catcher, 1 shortstop, 2 outfielders.

I got Bench, Bonds, Belanger...who am I forgetting?

Paul Blair???

[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKKKKK

Mercy!

[Wonderful Monds]

#10 for Ace Garrett

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11.

[_Sir_Charles_]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[membengal]

11.


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[Red Raindog]

11

[BluegrassRedleg]

Pizza in the 6th inning!!!


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[Wonderful Monds]

The pizza man cometh

[Tom Servo]

Or, you know, they could pay him when the time comes if he's earned it.


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A very noble idea, one I agree with in principle. Yet our team is the only team that continues to screw this up.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Trivia question was 4 players who's last name begins with "B" who've won at least 8 gold gloves.

1 catcher, 1 shortstop, 2 outfielders.

I got Bench, Bonds, Belanger...who am I forgetting?

My O's buddy at the game is saying Blair. Did Bonds make it to 8?


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[Wonderful Monds]

12!

[RedTeamGo!]

KKKKKKKKKK

Mercy!

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[membengal]

12


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[_Sir_Charles_]

KKKKKKKKKKKK

12 punchouts....impressive. In 6 innings...freaking NUTS!!!!

[RedsLvr]

Holy..please score this kid some runs.

[VR]

I love the Amir, did I mention that?


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[ochoa30]

12 K's in 6 innings. Is that good? Now get this kid some runs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Blair, Belanger, Bonds, Bench was correct. Nice job.


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[SirFelixCat]

That changeup was just straight filth.

[Roy Tucker]

Let's get some runs. The kid is doing his job.

[Reds Fanatic]

I love the Amir, did I mention that?


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How can you not love this kid. It is amazing this is just his 3rd start.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Blair, Belanger, Bonds, Bench was correct. Nice job.


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I'm embarrassed with myself for not thinking of Blair though. Loved that guy.

[Ironman92]

I love Ace Amir!

I see the next David Price

[Wonderful Monds]

Amir Garrett is in good company in Reds history right next to the Big Sweat

[Brutus]

The jury is still out on this team, but Amir Garrett is the real deal. This guy can flat out pitch.

[PutPeteIn]

We have our ace. Now let's win this thing.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I love Ace Amir!

I see the next David Price

I'd rather we aim higher than Price. ;)

[ochoa30]

It's sad we can't even square this schlub up. Jeez. Come on boys!!!

[Tracy Jones]

They should be ashamed of themselves for this putrid display at the plate so far.

[_Sir_Charles_]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Mr. Votto. :O)

Duvall just missed it. Damn.

[The Operator]

It seems like year in and year out, The Reds have always had a penchant for taking a struggling pitcher and turning him into Cy Young.

[Tracy Jones]

Yuck

[Kc61]

Hate to lose a game with such a great outing by Garrett.

[Brutus]

It seems like year in and year out, The Reds have always had a penchant for taking a struggling pitcher and turning him into Cy Young.

Sometimes it's been no-name guys who's never done a lick. At least Ubaldo is a talented guy who's had success before. Not as embarrassing as some other noteworthy instances.

[ochoa30]

Sometimes it's been no-name guys who's never done a lick. At least Ubaldo is a talented guy who's had success before. Not as embarrassing as some other noteworthy instances.

Problem is the talent isn't there anymore. Just the lack of control.

[SirFelixCat]

Listening to the O's feed and they're quite complimentary of Amir. Good stuff.

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Tied LH rookie record of Reyes w/ 12Ks so far.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yesssirreeee


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[_Sir_Charles_]

YESSIRREE!

[ochoa30]

What an outing by Garrett!

[Brutus]

Problem is the talent isn't there anymore. Just the lack of control.

Maybe maybe not. Last year he was bad, but just two years ago he had a 4 ERA and struck out 168 in 184 innings. Really don't agree this is something to be ashamed of. In any event, every team is going to have bad nights where they're just not hitting regardless of who's on the mound.

[Tracy Jones]

All of that on just 97 pitches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Come on bats! Wake up. Get that man a W!

[_Sir_Charles_]

Maybe maybe not. Last year he was bad, but just two years ago he had a 4 ERA and struck out 168 in 184 innings. Really don't agree this is something to be ashamed of. In any event, every team is going to have bad nights where they're just not hitting regardless of who's on the mound.

True. Plus Jimenez has a history of success against the Reds. Sometimes confidence is all you need to tilt the scales in your favor

[Raisor]

Come on bats! Wake up. Get that man a W!

Another reason W/L for pitchers is dumb.

In no way does he deserve a loss if the offense doesn't scite

[ochoa30]

Maybe maybe not. Last year he was bad, but just two years ago he had a 4 ERA and struck out 168 in 184 innings. Really don't agree this is something to be ashamed of. In any event, every team is going to have bad nights where they're just not hitting regardless of who's on the mound.

He's barely hitting 90 on the gun but I agree. It's not like he's a guy who's never had any success. He's just been so bad this year. It's hard to believe he could be this good. I'm sure orioles fans would feel the same way.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Sheesh. 1-2-3 but Cozy & Tucker smoked the ball at least. :( *sigh*

[ochoa30]

At least they hit the ball hard that inning. No luck though.

[Tracy Jones]

This is awful. I don't care what success Ubaldo has had in the past. 2 hits off this guy in 7 innings is inexcusable. He won't come close to numbers like that the rest of the season.

[ochoa30]

Will be interesting to see how Jimenez fares in his next start. Just 2 K's and 3 walks ain't gonna cut it most nights.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Regardless of score or outcome....

:clap:A:clap:M:clap:I:clap:R:clap:

[Raisor]

This is awful. I don't care what success Ubaldo has had in the past. 2 hits off this guy in 7 innings is inexcusable. He won't come close to numbers like that the rest of the season.

If it's inexcusable what do you suggest the team do?

[Tracy Jones]

If it's inexcusable what do you suggest the team do?

Play better

[_Sir_Charles_]

71 strikes, 26 balls, 12 punchouts, 1 bb, 7 hits and 2 runs. Mr. Garrett gettin' it done.

[ochoa30]

Should be interference on machado no?

[Raisor]

Play better

That's some deep stuff right there ;)

[ochoa30]

They better not call him out at second. I think theses plays are crazy unless the guy slides straight by or something. It's just cheap.

[Tracy Jones]

71 strikes, 26 balls, 12 punchouts, 1 bb, 7 hits and 2 runs. Mr. Garrett gettin' it done.

The 26 balls is the key. Hopefully the rest of the youngins take note. Throwing strikes = success

[Roy Tucker]

I think he's out. So he'll be safe.

[Tracy Jones]

That's some deep stuff right there ;)

Well I'd analyze their swing and measure their exit velocities and such but I have brownies in the oven

[Raisor]

They better not call him out at second. I think theses plays are crazy unless the guy slides straight by or something. It's just cheap.

You're either in contact with the base or you aren't

[Roy Tucker]

Well I'd analyze their swing and measure their exit velocities and such but I have brownies in the oven

I'll bring the milk.

[Brutus]

Well I'd analyze their swing and measure their exit velocities and such but I have brownies in the oven

Then what are you doing on Redszone chatting in Raisorzone... it's browniezone at Tracy's house.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Roy's got the right idea. People who eat warm brownies without milk...barbarians.

[RiverRat13]

It seems like year in and year out, The Reds have always had a penchant for taking a struggling pitcher and turning him into Cy Young.

Cardinal fans were probably saying the same thing when they got shut down by Scott Feldman.

[Roy Tucker]

Scooter needed a stepladder to get to that one.

[RedTeamGo!]

This is awful. I don't care what success Ubaldo has had in the past. 2 hits off this guy in 7 innings is inexcusable. He won't come close to numbers like that the rest of the season.

Meh, baseball happens

[ochoa30]

Just a bit high there scooter?

[RedTeamGo!]

Tigers vs Rays is the free game of the day today. Just watched an epic at bat between Miggy and Chris Archer. Baseball is amazing.

I'm drunk.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Jimenez over 100 pitches and Slidin' Billy on board.

[Roy Tucker]

Ghiardelli Triple Chocolate

[Tadasimha]

Roy's got the right idea. People who eat warm brownies without milk...barbarians.
Barbarians welcome in the kahluazone

[BluegrassRedleg]

Throw the ball out and send it to Cooperstown.


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[BluegrassRedleg]

WTH Peraza.


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[_Sir_Charles_]

SB #7 for Billy

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2 down but Billy scoots over to third. Pitching change to face Vottomatic.

[podgejeff_]

I hope Votto takes this next AB as a great opportunity to shut Marty up.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Donnie Hart in to give up the lead.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Damn. Joey fouls out to end the inning. :(

Just not our night fellas.

[Roy Tucker]

Moving to the other end of the couch to change luck.

[ochoa30]

Damn. Joey fouls out to end the inning. :(

Just not our night fellas.

Reds haven't really had a good late comeback this year. Tonight could still be it. Not giving in yet.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Bad cut for Votto after getting it to 2-0.


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[TheBigLebowski]

BAH

[_Sir_Charles_]

I can't believe how emotional I got watching that. Ichiro, with the Marlins, in his last at bat in Safeco field went yard. A standing ovation for an opposing player. Classy, CLASSY player and fans.

[Brutus]

Cardinal fans were probably saying the same thing when they got shut down by Scott Feldman.

OrioleZone was melting down, I'm sure, last night when Bronson Arroyo shut them down.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Reds haven't really had a good late comeback this year. Tonight could still be it. Not giving in yet.

I haven't either...but it's not looking promising. Very few good hacks, and I hate seeing a great pitching outing go to waste.

[Fil3232]

Peralta looks fantastic.

[Brutus]

I say this about a lot of guys in this bullpen, but I love watching Peralta pitch. Dude is nasty.

[ochoa30]

Peralta looks incredible early on. Reds may have found a major bullpen piece here.

[Brutus]

10 pitches, 3 strikeouts. Peralta is no Drew Storen haha

[Kc61]

Wandy Peralta threw great that inning. Pleasant surprise this year so far.
Struck out side on ten pitches.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Peralta K's the side. Not too shabby. I guess it would be a waste to bat him leadoff. ;)

[ochoa30]

10 pitches! Storen says he's a slacker

[Roy Tucker]

Reds offense has been nonexistent but their pitching is worth getting excited about. Peralta with a nasty 10 pitch 3 K inning.

[RED VAN HOT]

This was the best Garrett has looked to me....FB 92-93, CB high 70's, slider low 80's, good command of all pitches.

[Brutus]

10 pitches! Storen says he's a slacker

That's eerie. My best friend literally just texted me the exact same thing. Called him a slacker haha

[Roy Tucker]

Fast game.

[RedlegJake]

Don't care if you're the 27 Yankees or 76 Reds - there are gonna be nights you don't hit as a team. My takeaway is that Garrett is no mirage and neither is this bullpen. All the Reds need is to solidify the rest of the rotation and this season will be fun. How well they can do that will tell the tale.

[ochoa30]

Man, if only they saved 3 runs from last night.

[Kc61]

Could use Jay Bruce tonight, having a monster game for the Mets.

[ochoa30]

Could use Jay Bruce tonight, having a monster game for the Mets.

One thing I think we can all agree on is Schebler is no Jay. I think he'll make a good 4th outfielder though.

[_Sir_Charles_]

crappy result...but lots of silver linings. Tough to be too upset with that game. Garrett was fantastic.

[Kc61]

Lousy game, Reds lose.

Get 'me tomorrow. Garrett very encouraging for future.

[Raisor]

One thing I think we can all agree on is Schebler is no Jay. I think he'll make a good 4th outfielder though.

248/319/468
252/323/439

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Lousy game, Reds lose.

Get 'me tomorrow. Garrett very encouraging for future.

I wouldn't call it a lousy game considering how good the pitching was.

[ochoa30]

248/319/468
252/323/439

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I wouldn't call it a lousy game considering how good the pitching was.

Don't know when those numbers are from but Scott hasn't proven he can keep it up consistently. Had an encouraging end to last season but I just don't see him as starter material. Would love to be wrong.

[Raisor]

Don't know when those numbers are from but Scott hasn't proven he can keep it up consistently. Had an encouraging end to last season but I just don't see him as starter material. Would love to be wrong.

Those are the career numbers of both.

[ochoa30]

Those are the career numbers of both.

Similar for sure. One guy just has a few thousand more at bats.

[NeilHamburger]

Huge game for Amir. This is better than the Reds winning 10-8 and having him get hit around. Now just give me Reed dealing and I'll believe in 2018. I would love 2 left handed studs to build the rotation on.

[Raisor]

Similar for sure. One guy just has a few 1000 more at bats.

Well sure, and that's why he isn't here anymore. The good news is his replacement has put up about the same rate stats so far in his career so maybe Reds fans can give him more than two weeks to get on track.

[ochoa30]

Huge game for Amir. This is better than the Reds winning 10-8 and having him get hit around. Now just give me Reed dealing and I'll believe in 2018. I would love 2 left handed studs to build the rotation on.

Still think Finnegans is in this conversation. Until we know otherwise he should be back this year.

[ochoa30]

Well sure, and that's why he isn't here anymore. The good news is his replacement has put up about the same rate stats so far in his career so maybe Reds fans can give him more than two weeks to get on track.

I'm not saying bench the guy but my opinion is once winker is ready that he will be a good 4th outfielder. He'll get plenty of AB's still. Winker just passes the eye test way more as a hitter. Schebler is better in the other facets of the game however. Pretty much the definition of a 4th outfielder.

[Raisor]

Schebler had a 934 OPS in AAA last season.

He has a 762 OPS in 300+ major league PA's.

Somehow doesn't pass the eye test

[ochoa30]

Schebler had a 934 OPS in AAA last season.

He has a 762 OPS in 300+ major league PA's.

Somehow doesn't pass the eye test

I give him credit for going down after his horrible start and playing well. I think he's passable. Never said he didn't pass the eye test. Just that winker looks better to me. Could be wrong for sure. It happened this one time. :p

[Raisor]

I give him credit for going down after his horrible start and playing well. I think he's passable. Never said he didn't pass the eye test. Just that winker looks better to me. Could be wrong for sure. It happened this one time. :p

Not just directed at you. The amount of criticism he gets from Reds fans, on here, twitter, and FB, kind of astounds me.

I'd blame it on the slow start, but it's been going on since he was acquired

[ochoa30]

Not just directed at you. The amount of criticism he gets from Reds fans, on here, twitter, and FB, kind of astounds me.

I'd blame it on the slow start, but it's been going on since he was acquired

Yeah, I think it has something to do with being in the Frazier trade and now replacing Bruce. 2 fan favorites. Especially casual fans. I just want the best players out there myself. Maybe he is a slow starter like Votto. I think he deserves at least 2 months to get on track after his finish last year then maybe Winker gets his shot if Scott hasn't come around. Good problem to have.

[cumberlandreds]

Great game again by Garrett! He just didn't get any help from his friends. You hate to put the ace title on a rookie but if this keeps up we are going to have to. Also the Reds don't have anyone close to this good. Watching the Reds every fifth day is going to be must viewing this season.

Jimenez seems to either blow hot or cold. Not much in between on him. Reds were just unfortunate to catch him on a good day.

[Ron Madden]

Not just directed at you. The amount of criticism he gets from Reds fans, on here, twitter, and FB, kind of astounds me.

I'd blame it on the slow start, but it's been going on since he was acquired

It could be the dumbing down of the casual fanbase due to listening to the Reds on radio.

[Ron Madden]

Ya win some ya lose some.
Ya gotta remember those other guys are bein' paid to win games too.

Jn most cases they're bein' paid a helluva lot more.
I don't think the Reds have anything to be ashamed of.