5/4/2017 Reds vs Pirates DAY GAME

[cumberlandreds]

Cozart gets the day off. More adventures from Alcantara on tap. Game is scheduled for 12:25 pm. No TV from FSO.



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[Donder]

I know there's a "keep Alcantara sharp" argument that Price makes, but man, I'd like to see Gennett start whenever the 2B, SS, 3B, LF, or RF gets the day off.


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[Donder]

What's the chances this game starts on schedule?

[cumberlandreds]

The enemy lineup:

5/4 @Pirates lineup at CIN
Harrison 3B
Jaso RF
McCutchen CF
Polanco LF
Bell 1B
Cervelli C
Hanson 2B
Ngoepe SS
Nova P

[cumberlandreds]

What's the chances this game starts on schedule?

Looks very bleak that this game will be played. Lots of rain all over. 90% chance throughout much of the day and evening.

https://weather.com/weather/radar/interactive/l/USOH0188:1:US?layer=radarConus&zoom=8&animation=true

[Donder]

Looks very bleak that this game will be played. Lots of rain all over. 90% chance throughout much of the day and evening.

https://weather.com/weather/radar/interactive/l/USOH0188:1:US?layer=radarConus&zoom=8&animation=true

Thanks. I kind of figured. Bummer.

[Jordan]

Yep, doesn't look like there is any chance of playing baseball today. Damn.

[Jordan]

I know there's a "keep Alcantara sharp" argument that Price makes, but man, I'd like to see Gennett start whenever the 2B, SS, 3B, LF, or RF gets the day off.


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I don't get it either. Alcantara should only play when absolutely needed. Gennett needs to be the de-facto backup 2B. Anytime Peraza has a day off, Gennett is in there. Gennett can also play 3B and OF to get him some extra starts. Best utility guy we've had in many years IMO.

[Tadasimha]

As you wait for the game to start here's a Star Wars Day mash-up of Sgt Pepper and Star Wars

https://youtu.be/NYD3QtyEGGM

[DocRed]

Yeesh...tomorrow not looking much better

[klw]

I would not be surprised if there are enough breaks in the rain that they can get this in. It looks like the rain should get less steady right around the scheduled start time. It of course depends on how bad the field is at this point and if additional showers fill in from the south:


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[Jordan]

Let's go with klw on this one. I like your way of thinking my friend.

The radar definitely shows some breaks in the action. Hmm. Now my hopes are somewhat up again.

[WrongVerb]

Have to admit to a selfish reason for wanting a rainout today. I'm going to the CIN/SF game next Saturday and if today's game is rained out, and the rotation gets pushed back a day, that means Garrett will start that game instead of Feldman.

[Jordan]

Have to admit to a selfish reason for wanting a rainout today. I'm going to the CIN/SF game next Saturday and if today's game is rained out, and the rotation gets pushed back a day, that means Garrett will start that game instead of Feldman.

I hope you see Feldman.

:evil:

[ScotlandRed]

Any news on if this game will start on time?

[klw]

Any news on if this game will start on time?

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Today's game will not start on time. Further update will be provided when available.

At least they have not yet cancelled it.

[Jordan]

Ugh. What a pisser.

[bleedsred]

Hate it for my son who is on his class field trip, he was really excited this morning....

[androosh]

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Tarp coming off. #reds say game will start at 1:30 pm ET

[Tadasimha]

Hate it for my son who is on his class field trip, he was really excited this morning....

One of my first riverfront experiences was a class trip to the game - spent way too much on a hat and peanuts, sat way up in the red seats and cpuld barely see the field, was sunburned and loved every minute of it!

[DocRed]

wow shocked

[Tom Servo]

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At least they have not yet cancelled it.
Thanks Kremchek.

[Jordan]

Yeaaaa, baseball!

[Jordan]

3-pitch K of Harrison to begin the game.

[cumberlandreds]

And we are underway.

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3-pitch K of Harrison to begin the game.

I'm way behind on the MLB ATBat app.

[Jordan]

Jaso pops out. Two quick outs by Adleman.

[Tadasimha]

3-pitch K of Harrison to begin the game.

That is a good start!

[Jordan]

McCutchen singles up the middle.

[Donder]

A delay an a few innings could be advantageous for the Reds if it gets Nova out early.

[Jordan]

Adleman walks Polanco. Two on, two out.

[Jordan]

Adleman Ks Bell to end the inning. No runs for the Pirates ... and the Reds are coming to bat!

[Tadasimha]

All right

[Jordan]

Billy swings at the first pitch and flies out deep to center.

Would like to see him take a few pitches, especially to start the game.

[Tom Servo]

Would like to see him take a few pitches, especially to start the game.
You can wait, but Nova isn't going to throw many balls.

[Jordan]

Peraza grounds out.

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You can wait, but Nova isn't going to throw many balls.

True, but I'd still like to see the leadoff hitter be a bit more patient than that.

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Quick 1-2-3 inning as Votto grounds out.

[Jordan]

Cervelli singles.

[Jordan]

One down, fly out to LF.

[Tony Cloninger]

I know Alcantara is like starting Darrell Chaney or 1976 Joel Youngblood but he has gotten some hits lately. Maybe a start will keep him fresher and more productive.

[Jordan]

Welp. Double. 1-0 Pirates.

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OK, me doing PBP is not working, so I'm going to stop.

[DocRed]

Billy needs to stop playing so shallow on everyone...

[Tony Cloninger]

Welp. Double. 1-0 Pirates.

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OK, me doing PBP is not working, so I'm going to stop.
No don't go. I like looking at Peter's wife.

[cumberlandreds]

Pirates still leading the Reds 1-0 after two.

[cumberlandreds]

Any ideas?


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[Rantly]

Any ideas?


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Arroyo, Browning

[Rantly]

Gary Nolan?

[RedsfaninMT]

Gary Nolan?

Nolan has to be. Soto? He was a good pitcher on same BAD teams?

[Rantly]

Nolan has to be. Soto? He was a good pitcher on same BAD teams?

Was he around long enough? Same for Rijo and Gullett?

[RedsfaninMT]

Gullet wasn't a Red long enough. Maloney? Soto pitched his whole career for the Reds, if I recall correctly, but I'd bet he has more losses than wins.

[cumberlandreds]

I think all four have been mentioned. Two of them are at 100 even.

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Gullet wasn't a Red long enough. Maloney?

Maloney was more than 50 years back. Or at least most of his career was.

[cumberlandreds]

Gullet wasn't a Red long enough. Maloney? Soto pitched his whole career for the Reds, if I recall correctly, but I'd bet he has more losses than wins.

Soto is 8 games above .500.

[cumberlandreds]

Meanwhile back at the ranch, Pirates still lead the Reds 1-0 in the bottom of the 4th.

[cumberlandreds]

Peraza with an 8 game hitting streak.

[RedsfaninMT]

Soto is 8 games above .500.

Then he has to be one of the 100 game winners.

[Hollcat]

Cumberlandreds what was the question? I've looked all the way back through the thread and I don't see it?

[klw]

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Votto doubles to tie it at 1.

[membengal]

Management told Votto to double in the gap and score Peraza. Good idea, management.

[Raisor]

Votto double

[cumberlandreds]

Cumberlandreds what was the question? I've looked all the way back through the thread and I don't see it?

Post 43.

[Tony Cloninger]

Gullet wasn't a Red long enough. Maloney? Soto pitched his whole career for the Reds, if I recall correctly, but I'd bet he has more losses than wins.

Until he got released in middle of 88. Talked about some weird stuff going on in Reds locker room (Pete Rose issue?) and joined the Dodgers but never pitched. Was there as a just in case really. I rember reading about what he said in the La Times when he joined. One of my favorites of the 80s going to the freaking Dodgers.

[cumberlandreds]

Then he has to be one of the 100 game winners.

Yep. He is right at 100.

The other three I'm pretty sure are Gary Nolan, Tom Browning and Bronson Arroyo. Arroyo is right at 100 if I added his wins up right. I got this question from Jamie Ramsey's twitter account. I may not be around later when the answer is revealed so you can go to his Tweets to find the answer.

[Hollcat]

The picture or whatever it was is just a small x for me.

[cincyinco]

Duvall hits a double that drives in Votto, but over slides 2nd base and is tagged out when his foot comes off the bag.

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Scheb with a double to the RF corner. Too bad no one was on 2nd to tack on another run.

[cumberlandreds]

Duvall doubles in Votto and then slides off teh bag for an out. 2-1 Reds in the 4th.

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The picture or whatever it was is just a small x for me.

The question was, what Reds pitchers have won 100 games as a Red in the last 50 years.

[Red Raindog]

I think all four have been mentioned. Two of them are at 100 even.

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Maloney was more than 50 years back. Or at least most of his career was.

ouch - my favorite Reds' pitcher growing up -- guess I'm old

[cincyinco]

Alcantara is 2 for 2 with a hit through the left side of the infield. Runners on the corners.

[klw]

Duvall doubles in Votto and then slides off teh bag for an out. 2-1 Reds in the 4th.

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The question was, what Reds pitchers have won 100 games as a Red in the last 50 years.

Would Maloney qualify under the question? He won over 100 with the Reds but most were prior to 1967 which is the 50 year ago mark of the question.

Milt Pappas? Ducks for cover.

[Tom Servo]

Alcantara is 2 for 2 with a hit through the left side of the infield. Runners on the corners.
Remeber when people wanted him shot into the sun because of like 10 at bats

[cincyinco]

Remeber when people wanted him shot into the sun because of like 10 at bats

Yeah, but I'm still not sold.. I wouldn't shed a tear if the Reds cut him.

Alcantara adds a SB to his resume for today. Runners are in scoring position for Barny.. who rolls one over to the 2nd baseman. 2-1 Reds.

[No pants Mcgee]

I will never doubt Bryan Price again....ever...or at least a couple of days.

[TheTimeIsNow]

Ivan Nova against the Reds: 4.50 ERA

Ivan Nova against everybody else: 0.90 ERA

[membengal]

Remeber when people wanted him shot into the sun because of like 10 at bats

I wanted him shot into the sun because he refused to catch the ball behind Romano as Romano made his major league debut. I stand by that.

[cumberlandreds]

Would Maloney qualify under the question? He won over 100 with the Reds but most were prior to 1967 which is the 50 year ago mark of the question.

Milt Pappas? Ducks for cover.

I think they are counting wins in the last 50 years. We will see when they release the answer.

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Ivan Nova against the Reds: 4.50 ERA

Ivan Nova against everybody else: 0.90 ERA

The Reds are his Brewers.

[Tony Cloninger]

Remeber when people wanted him shot into the sun because of like 10 at bats

Please see my post before the game began to give me my proper pat on the back and cookie.

[Kc61]

My prediction for this game is that its outcome will depend on whether Blake Wood has his stuff and control.

[RedTeamGo!]

Remeber when people wanted him shot into the sun because of like 10 at bats

I don't understand this...saying 10+ at bats is a small sample size while using 2 at bats as evidence.

He has 7 hits, 4 of which were against Nova

[Tracy Jones]

I wanted him shot into the sun because he refused to catch the ball behind Romano as Romano made his major league debut. I stand by that.

You're gonna hold a perma grudge against a guy for an error he made in April?

Tough crowd.

[cumberlandreds]

I don't understand this...saying 10+ at bats is a small sample size while using 2 at bats as evidence.

He has 7 hits, 4 of which were against Nova

He is our designated Nova killer.

[Tom Servo]

Yeah, but I'm still not sold.. I wouldn't shed a tear if the Reds cut him.

Alcantara adds a SB to his resume for today. Runners are in scoring position for Barny.. who rolls one over to the 2nd baseman. 2-1 Reds.
I think he's got more upside than AAA jamokes like Iribarren.

[cincyinco]

My prediction for this game is that its outcome will depend on whether Blake Wood has his stuff and control.

If Adleman can get through these innings pretty quickly, he might spare us from Wood.

might..

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That was a strange play.. 3-4-1 out.. deflection of votto that alcantra grabs and throws to adleman.

[NebraskaRed]

nice little play there

[Tracy Jones]

According to Marty Alcamtara "saved Votto an error" on the last play.

All hail Alcantara

[No pants Mcgee]

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That was a strange play.. 3-4-1 out.. deflection of votto that alcantra grabs and throws to adleman.
Lets see how Chris Carpenter is going to explain that one to his son...

[cincyinco]

I think he's got more upside than AAA jamokes like Iribarren.

There was a time when I would have agreed with it. In fact, I probably still agree with it, I just don't know that he'll ever get there.

I would love to be wrong.

[RedsBrick]

According to Marty Alcamtara "saved Votto an error" on the last play.

All hail Alcantara


According to Marty, Marty's the best dang broadcaster to ever speak into a mic.

[tomnuetten]

Votto with a BP #4 play :thumbup:

[membengal]

You're gonna hold a perma grudge against a guy for an error he made in April?

Tough crowd.

Two errors. Same inning. Including a dropped pop up. I do indeed hold a grudge.

[Tracy Jones]

According to Marty, Marty's the best dang broadcaster to ever speak into a mic.

According to Marty, tHom is second.

[Tony Cloninger]

Wood should be doing mop up during blowouts. Like yesterday. He should not be in this game unless it is a 5 plus run lead in the 7th.....at best.

[Tracy Jones]

Two errors. Same inning. Including a dropped pop up. I do indeed hold a grudge.

12283

[Kc61]

Wood should be doing mop up during blowouts. Like yesterday. He should not be in this game unless it is a 5 plus run lead in the 7th.....at best.

Wood is the rested guy. I expect he'll be in there today. Certainly no guarantee.

[membengal]

12283

Easter Sunday:

Me: Say, Romano today! That's potentially fun!

Me later Easter Sunday: Why won't Alcantara catch a ball??? Why does he hate fun?

Me to this day: Stupid Alcantara

[Tracy Jones]

Wood is the rested guy. I expect he'll be in there today. Certainly no guarantee.

Let's hope not.

[klw]

Glad to see Peraza take a couple of pitches to let Billy have a chance to steal second. Good at bat.

[RedsBrick]

When Billy gets on, it should be SOP for the next batter to, at least, take a pitch.

[Tracy Jones]

Easter Sunday:

Me: Say, Romano today! That's potentially fun!

Me later Easter Sunday: Why won't Alcantara catch a ball??? Why does he hate fun?

Me to this day: Stupid Alcantara

He's not Bill Buckner and it wasn't Game 6.

Let it go my friend. Let it go.

[membengal]

He's not Bill Buckner and it wasn't Game 6.

Let it go my friend. Let it go.

Not yet. He ruined Easter Sunday.

[Donder]

Please see my post before the game began to give me my proper pat on the back and cookie.

Half this board owes you an apology. The other half should give you props.

[Tracy Jones]

Not yet. He ruined Easter Sunday.

Lol tough crowd

[membengal]

Management once again comes through in ordering a double from Votto. Good job, management.

[cincyinco]

Votto! 3-1 Reds..

[klw]

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[membengal]

By the way, Marty seems SUPER pleased that Votto is near top 10 in RBI now. Because, you know, Votto controls that and what not.

He's also REALLY excited that Votto is not in top 10 in walks in the league.

Seriously, this is what he is talking about. "Votto is hitting home runs and driving in runs and not in top 10 in walks." He is super super happy about it.

[TheTimeIsNow]

Billy Hamilton now has 200 career steals.

46 of them have come against the Pirates.

[klw]

When Hamilton stole 2nd and the count became 1-2 I was wondering if they would walk Votto. Figured they would work around him. Oh well I wonder when they just give up with him.

[Tracy Jones]

With Votto hitting bombs and driving in runs at the rate he is, he just may make a real run at a 2nd MVP, although the Reds team performance will likely hurt him, and Bryce Harper is gonna be tough to beat.

[cincyinco]

Duvall! Triple! Votto Scores! 4-1 Reds!

[klw]

Billy Hamilton now has 200 career steals.

46 of them have come against the Pirates.

The only player with a higher percentage of their steals coming against a single team is Mike Leake against Macy's

[membengal]

The only player with a higher percentage of their steals coming against a single team is Mike Leake against Macy's

Tip your wait staff!

[Tracy Jones]

By the way, Marty seems SUPER pleased that Votto is near top 10 in RBI now. Because, you know, Votto controls that and what not.

He's also REALLY excited that Votto is not in top 10 in walks in the league.

Seriously, this is what he is talking about. "Votto is hitting home runs and driving in runs and not in top 10 in walks." He is super super happy about it.

lol I noticed that too. He really despises Votto's walks. He really does.

[membengal]

lol I noticed that too. He really despises Votto's walks. He really does.

In a deep, personal way, he really really does.

[Tom Servo]

lol I noticed that too. He really despises Votto's walks. He really does.
I'm convinced he'd rather see a long flyout from Votto that moves a runner from 2nd to 3rd than a walk.

[membengal]

I'm convinced he'd rather see a long flyout from Votto that moves a runner from 2nd to 3rd than a walk.

There is no question about that.

[Tracy Jones]

I'm convinced he'd rather see a long flyout from Votto that moves a runner from 2nd to 3rd than a walk.

With no outs? Yeah he probably would. A walk in that situation would just "set up a double play"

[Hollcat]

The only player with a higher percentage of their steals coming against a single team is Mike Leake against Macy's

But that's only based on confirmed steals.

[TheTimeIsNow]

Pirates ERA against the Reds: 5.68
Pirates ERA against everybody else: 3.57

Reds ERA against the Pirates: 3.15
Reds ERA against everybody else: 5.10

[Tony Cloninger]

Half this board owes you an apology. The other half should give you props.

Membengal would disagree but Alcantara will show him the way.

[Tracy Jones]

Is Iglesias available today? Only threw 1 last night so I hope so.

[Tony Cloninger]

Duvall has more speed than one would expect or assume.

[Tracy Jones]

Adelman has been pretty decent I have to say. However I'm a Reds fan so my idea of what's decent from a starting pitcher is horribly skewed.

[Tracy Jones]

Alcantara: hitting machine

[membengal]

Membengal would disagree but Alcantara will show him the way.

If he builds a time machine and goes back and catches the balls hit to him on Easter Sunday, I will consider it.

[reds44]

Alcantara now hitting .333 on the season

Cut him!

[Strikes Out Looking]

Adelman seems to have the maturity that the Reds prospects don't yet have -- I believe he'll end up being the number 5 guy the rest of the year. I would think that Feldman (via trade) and Arroyo (via arm falling off, likely in the 5th inning of a game) will leave the rotation before he does.

[WrongVerb]

Adelman seems to have the maturity that the Reds prospects don't yet have -- I believe he'll end up being the number 5 guy the rest of the year. I would think that Feldman (via trade) and Arroyo (via arm falling off, likely in the 5th inning of a game) will leave the rotation before he does.

I know you're joking, but that's happened (Smiley, Draveky)

[Chip R]

Alcantara now hitting .333 on the season

Cut him!

he needs to be back in Louisville with Schebler and Peraza.

[bleedsred]

Scooter with a PH single to lead off the inning...

[klw]

Scooter with a PH single to lead off the inning...

Actually not a PH. He came in as part of a double switch when Lorenzen came in and he replaced Alcantara at 2nd.

[bleedsred]

Thanks, must have missed that klw...

[bleedsred]

Hamilton takes Scooter's place at first with a fielders choice...pop foul out by Peraza....votto walks...Marty is mad

[bleedsred]

Duvall grounds out....onto the 8th...

[Tadasimha]

Cowboy Zen cruising - let him have the 9th

[bleedsred]

Nice inning by Lorenzen.....anybody think their could be a ph by our 'extra' catcher

[Kc61]

LOL, just looked at the in-game box score.

The highest season batting average of anyone playing for Reds today is -- (drum roll)?

Alcantara, .333.

[bleedsred]

I too would like to see Lorenzen back out for the 9th...prob unavailable for tomorrow anyway

[bleedsred]

Suarez walks.....Schebler pops out to short....Kivlehan ph for Lorenzen

[Tadasimha]

I too would like to see Lorenzen back out for the 9th...prob unavailable for tomorrow anyway

Guess we need to get The Kiv going

[Kc61]

I too would like to see Lorenzen back out for the 9th...prob unavailable for tomorrow anyway

If three innings, Lorenzen's out for more than one day.

Iglesias will pitch top nine.

[bleedsred]

Kivlehan works count to 3-2 strikes out and suarez thrown out stealing.....onto the 9th

[Tadasimha]

Peralta time?

Nope, Iglesias

[bleedsred]

Bell leads off with a single

[Kc61]

Question here is Iglesias' prowess in the rain.

[bleedsred]

Cervelli k......and the "Woooh" birds are out

[Tadasimha]

Cervelli k......and the "Woooh" birds are out

Release the falcons!

[bleedsred]

Osuna up for Hanson.....6-4 fc

[bleedsred]

Diaz ph for the shortstop.....bell moves to 2nd....strike 3...Reds win!

[Roy Tucker]

Yay!

[Tadasimha]

Got him looking!

[bleedsred]

So glad my son got to see a Reds win on his field trip and his favorite player getting 2 hits. Cant wait to hear about his day.

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you meant "woooh!!" right Roy?

[Roy Tucker]

So glad my son got to see a Reds win on his field trip and his favorite player getting 2 hits. Cant wait to hear about his day.

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you meant "woooh!!" right Roy?

Wooooooohhh!!!

Very cool your son saw a W. A magical time for a boy.

[cumberlandreds]

According to Jamie Ramsey the answer to the scoreboard stumper was as I had it earlier in this thread. Soto,Nolan,Arroyo and Browning are your Reds 100 game winners in the last 50 years.


I'll take 3 of 4 from the Pirates. Good series win. Giants are in for the weekend. They have been bad so far this season. Good chance to take another series.

[Tom Servo]

Went back and watched a good part of this game after missing it today. Funny game baseball is, box score only tells you so much. Peraza was robbed of a single up the middle, hit a solid line drive single, and nearly had extra bases on his hardest hit ball that Jaso ran down in RF. He finishes 1-4. Meanwhile, Alcantara hits three ground balls for seeing eye singles to go 3-3.