Reds @ Giants 5-14-17

[Ron Madden]

REDS

Hamilton CF
Gennett 2B
Votto 1B
Duvall LF
Suarez 3B
Schebler RF
Peraza SS
Mesoraco C
Adleman P

Giants
Span CF
Panik 2B
Belt 1B
Posey C
Crawford SS
Arroyo 3B
Nunez LF
Ruggiano RF
Samardzija P

[Tom Servo]

Apparently Cozart has some sort of wrist issue, not sure where that cropped up.

[butsch16]

Who's playing RF?

[PutPeteIn]

Apparently Cozart has some sort of wrist issue, not sure where that cropped up.

He has had problems for at least a month with it.
Sounds like tendinitis.

[Ron Madden]

Who's playing RF?

Schebler..

(Thanks for the heads up)

[Wolves198921]

Really could use this one. Need to get a 5-2 series victory over the Giants since they are worst team in the majors and the Reds need to chalk up as many wins as possible over them.

[Ironman92]

Giants 8
Reds 6

[dougdirt]

He has had problems for at least a month with it.


Correct. He's missed several games with it over the last month or so. Tom just isn't paying attention. As I said, I don't trust much of what Tom Servo says anymore.

[Tom Servo]

Votto two out double.

[Red Raindog]

just saw that three of the five pitchers getting the lowest run support this year -- are on my fantasy team -- might be a reason for the struggles

[Tom Servo]

bleh

[Red Raindog]

RF - we have a problem -- smh

[OnBaseMachine]

That's embarrassing.

[Wolves198921]

I think I'm turning this off and enjoy the rest of my day

[Tom Servo]

Scheb dropped fly ball and Panik RBI double makes it 1-0 Giants

[Ron Madden]

I think I'm turning this off and enjoy the rest of my day

See Ya!

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Marty is not happy..

[Tom Servo]

Marty is not happy..
Thom too.

[OnBaseMachine]

I thought the meltdown may come in Chicago, not at the hands of the worst team in baseball. Freaking west coast trips.

[Tom Servo]

The trainer and Price out to look at Adleman.

[50YrRedsFan]

Reminding me of past west coast roadtrips.

[Tom Servo]

Can't tell what is up with Adleman, the video didn't show anything especially and the announcers speculate it's his neck. He had that oblique issue last year that cost him time. He's staying in for now.

[Ron Madden]

The trainer and Price out to look at Adleman.

Hope he's OK

[50YrRedsFan]

These umps are blind on that outside corner.

[Tom Servo]

4-0 Giants. Had a possible play at the plate but Mesoraco couldn't make the catch.

Barrett Astin warming up.

[Ron Madden]

I thought that was a good throw and they coulda had him at the plate.

[OnBaseMachine]

Billy Hamilton was rung up on a pitch 3 inches outside. Meanwhile, this was ball 4 on Arroyo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_0GG3HXkAA7y2N.jpg

[50YrRedsFan]

I don't know if the wheels have fallen off, but they are flat.

[Kc61]

I thought that was a good throw and they coulda had him at the plate.

Apparently gave Duvall an error on that throw. Debatable error.

[Tom Servo]

9 bat for the Giants, 4-0 after one.

[RedsManRick]

Duvall charged with an error because Mesoraco can't make a tag on a textbook throw. What?

[Ron Madden]

9 bat for the Giants, 4-0 after one.

We got 8 more innings to catch'em and go in front.

[OnBaseMachine]

6 runs in their last 43 innings.

[Ron Madden]

It woulda been nice to flip the batting order over right there..

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds gone in the 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

Thom immediately dousing cold water on the Homer Bailey update, but it sounds like he could be back in about a month's time.

[PutPeteIn]

Thom immediately dousing cold water on the Homer Bailey update, but it sounds like he could be back in about a month's time.
Heaven knows we need him, Adleman is not a Major league pitcher.

[Tom Servo]

Astin in, Adleman done after the one inning.

[Raisor]

6 runs in their last 43 innings.

You're going to give yourself hives

[Kc61]

Astin in.

If Astin pitches well, he could go three innings.

If Astin pitches poorly, he could go seven innings.

[Tom Servo]

Leadoff triple for Span in the 2nd. This one not looking so good.

[PutPeteIn]

I'm sure glad Span came off the DL just in time to turn into Tony Gwynn v Cincy.
Someone shoot me now.

[Ron Madden]

This ain't lookin good right now.

[Raisor]

Someone shoot me now.

If you can't handle the variance of a 9 inning game, not sure you can handle 162 games.

[Ron Madden]

I still don't think that was an error on Duvall.

[Tom Servo]

Astin doesn't seem ready for primetime.

[757690]

I still don't think that was an error on Duvall.

Yeah, that explanation that all missed bounce throws are errors on the guy who threw it, makes no sense.

[Ron Madden]

Astin doesn't seem ready for primetime.


Do you leave him in to "take one" for the team?

[Tom Servo]

Do you leave him in to "take one" for the team?
I mean, the Giants may never stop scoring if you leave him in.

[Red Raindog]

I'm sure glad Span came off the DL just in time to turn into Tony Gwynn v Cincy.
Someone shoot me now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

Just kidding -- I think -- no wait -- maybe not :)

[50YrRedsFan]

I have seen enough for today.

[Ron Madden]

I mean, the Giants may never stop scoring if you leave him in.

LOL

[PutPeteIn]

That's the ole ball game. Losing marathon games especially on a walk off always seems to send teams into a tail spin. Not surprised at all.

If Reds cant get a few pitchers back soon the way the Cardinals are going we will be done by mid June.

This is RED-diculous.

Most of our guys pitch scared and it's because they know their stuff is average at best.

[reds44]

We stinks

[Kc61]

I'd let Astin pitch as long as he can, then send him down and bring up a fresh arm.

[reds44]

that's the ole ball game. Losing marathon games especially on a walk off always seems to send teams into a tail spin. Not surprised at all.

If reds cant get a few pitchers back soon the way the cardinals are going we will be done by mid june.

This is red-diculous.

Most of our guys pitch scared and it's because they know their stuff is average at best.

pete has turned !!

[PutPeteIn]

If you can't handle the variance of a 9 inning game, not sure you can handle 162 games.
Super man Span has been raking allllll weekend long.
Take a hike.

[Kc61]

That's the ole ball game. Losing marathon games especially on a walk off always seems to send teams into a tail spin. Not surprised at all.

If Reds cant get a few pitchers back soon the way the Cardinals are going we will be done by mid June.

This is RED-diculous.

Most of our guys pitch scared and it's because they know their stuff is average at best.

I wouldn't put too much on this series. Most teams, as they develop, have trouble on the road. The first sign of success is to win at home.

I don't expect the Reds to remain a .500 or better road team. My hope for this year is they have a good home record and keep it within reason on the road.

[cincyinco]

Mother's Day Massacre.. Oooph.

[Ron Madden]

pete has turned !!

Nah, When the Reds win 3 in a row he'll be countin' down the magic number again.

[reds44]

I wouldn't put too much on this series. Most teams, as they develop, have trouble on the road. The first sign of success is to win at home.

I don't expect the Reds to remain a .500 or better road team. My hope for this year is they have a good home record and keep it within reason on the road.
This team is going to head south at some point unless Bailey and Finnegan get back soonish. This weekend hasn't been the rotations fault until today, but you cannot keep winning games marching these dudes out there

[Tom Servo]

Super man Span has been raking allllll weekend long.
Take a hike.
Against the same pitchers you apparently thought could lead the Reds to the World Series just 4 days ago.

[Raisor]

pete has turned !!

He's been NWO the whole time!

[PutPeteIn]

Oh and I just new Jeff Semarjiggfeuihdd would find his form just in time to keep Reds reeling.

When will this team every be a contender?

[dougdirt]

Oh and I just new Jeff Semarjiggfeuihdd would find his form just in time to keep Reds reeling.

When will this team every be a contender?

The same day they put pete in.

[Ron Madden]

Oh and I just new Jeff Semarjiggfeuihdd would find his form just in time to keep Reds reeling.

When will this team every be a contender?

Hard to be a contender when you are rebuilding for the future.

[PutPeteIn]

It's funny how these MLB pitchers get stiff necks every time they get shelled in the 1st inning.
Bunch o babies.

[Raisor]

Oh and I just new Jeff Semarjiggfeuihdd would find his form just in time to keep Reds reeling.

When will this team every be a contender?


Do you really think they should go 162-0?

Doesn't seem reasonable

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It's funny how these MLB pitchers get stiff necks every time they get sheeled in the 1st inning.
Bunch o babies.

Somebody needs a nap

[ScotlandRed]

OK guys. The pitching in this game has simply not been good enough... BUT, it's Adleman as Astin man.

The offence has had chances to win games 1-3 this series and has not.


We have not scored enough runs. Period.

[Kc61]

This team is going to head south at some point unless Bailey and Finnegan get back soonish. This weekend hasn't been the rotations fault until today, but you cannot keep winning games marching these dudes out there

I'm not expecting much from Bailey. He's missed a lot of time. It will be good to see him on the mound, but I doubt he'll be double no-hit Homer for quite awhile. And it seems like Disco hasn't even begun throwing yet.

The Reds are going to have to piece together a passable rotation, boosted by a good bullpen and defense. I think they have a shot at it, although I'm not predicting a winning overall record.

[Tom Servo]

OK guys. The pitching in this game has simply not been good enough... BUT, it's Adleman as Astin man.

The offence has had chances to win games 1-3 this series and has not.


We have not scored enough runs. Period.
And the Giants have some pretty good starting pitchers in Cueto, Moore, and Samardzija even if the latter two have struggled. The inability to score off the Giants horrible bullpen in the Friday marathon game was their real sin.

[CrackerJack]

OK guys. The pitching in this game has simply not been good enough... BUT, it's Adleman as Astin man.

The offence has had chances to win games 1-3 this series and has not.


We have not scored enough runs. Period.

5 runs in something like the last 38 innings. Just awful.

[Ron Madden]

Peaks And Valleys my friends.. Every season is full of'em...

[Raisor]

Does everyone think a team can just score five runs every single game?

[WVRedsFan]

Adleman? Well, no. At least not today.

[dougdirt]

Somebody needs a nap

It me.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Does everyone think a team can just score five runs every single game?

Granted. But you think it's unreasonable to ask for more than 3 in the last 30 innings against a horrible team?


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[Ron Madden]

I don't think the Reds are the first team to just score 3 runs in 30 innings.
I don't think they'll be the last team to do it.

[Ron Madden]

Gotta go to Mothers Day Dinner with my family.
Hang with'em my friends..

[RedTeamGo!]

Damned west coast trips

[BCubb2003]

Austin Brice replaces Barrett Astin because Jeff Austin was unavailable and Cody Austin Reed is in Louisville. Possible trade for Al Alburquerque?

[BluegrassRedleg]

I don't think the Reds are the first team to just score 3 runs in 30 innings.
I don't think they'll be the last team to do it.

"Horrible team" was the key modifier. The Giants likely won't do this again this season.


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[PutPeteIn]

Who was the last truely "clutch" hitter for the Reds?
I'll say Larkin and he has been retired for about 10 seasons.
Sad really.

[Mutaman]

Who was the last truely "clutch" hitter for the Reds?
I'll say Larkin and he has been retired for about 10 seasons.
Sad really.

Ryan Ludwick in 2012.

[Tom Servo]

"Horrible team" was the key modifier. The Giants likely won't do this again this season.


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You think Hunter Pence and Brandon Crawford will continue to not hit at all? Giants have a decent offense.

[PutPeteIn]

Ryan Ludwick in 2012.

Fair enough and that's been five years ago and Ludwick did it for one season.

[Mutaman]

My Question: Who's the last decent right handed hitting outfielder the organization has produced? Reggie Sanders?

[PutPeteIn]

Duvall and Squarez are pitiful right now.
Auto outs.

[BluegrassRedleg]

You think Hunter Pence and Brandon Crawford will continue to not hit at all? Giants have a decent offense.

Crawford may have a bit left in the tank, but I think Pence is done. Friend of mine is massive SF fan. He's blowing me up with texts saying "I can't believe we're going to win three in a row against anybody." Such is the plight of the Reds in the late great Golden State.


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[BluegrassRedleg]

My Question: Who's the last decent right handed hitting outfielder the organization has produced? Reggie Sanders?

Wow. That's a good question. Geez, you may be right.


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[757690]

Does everyone think a team can just score five runs every single game?

Yes, if a current Reds starter is on the mound opposing them.

[Tom Servo]

Kearns was pretty decent.

[Mutaman]

Wow. That's a good question. Geez, you may be right.



Full disclosure: I asked that question a while ago and that was servo's answer and i think he's right. Pretty ridiculous considering the bandbox they play in.

[BCubb2003]

Do we know if clutch even exists?

[Mutaman]

Do we know if clutch even exists?

It does. i saw George Brett play in Yankee Stadium. I shall not today attempt to further define 'Clutch", and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it and George Brett was "clutch". Mark Messier too.

[Tom Servo]

Reds drop their third straight, could use that off day tomorrow.

Hamilton, Votto, and Peraza all had a pair of hits, Votto with a double and Peraza with a triple. No walks allowed by the Giants today. Barrett Astin and Austin Brice (not the same person) did their job to munch a combined 5 innings after Adleman's injury.

[Sea Ray]

I don't think the Reds are the first team to just score 3 runs in 30 innings.
I don't think they'll be the last team to do it.

Of course not but is this the beginning of a swoon?

[dougdirt]

Do we know if clutch even exists?

Clutch exists. Clutch performances exists. Repeating the ability to be "clutch" isn't a skillset we have been able to show in statistics. Good players tend to be good in the clutch once the sample is actually a decent size. Bad players tend to be bad once the sample is actually a decent size.