Reds vs Phillies 5-27-17

[Ron Madden]

Cincinnati Reds @ Philadelphia Phillies, 4:05 P.M. ET

Reds

CF: Billy Hamilton
SS: Zack Cozart
1B: Joey Votto
LF: Adam Duvall
3B: Eugenio Suarez
RF: Scott Schebler
2B: Scooter Gennett
C: Tucker Barnhart
SP: Bronson Arroyo

[Ron Madden]

Phillies

2B: Cesar Hernandez
CF: Odubel Herrera
LF: Aaron Altherr
1B: Tommy Joseph
RF: Michael Saunders
3B: Maikel Franco
C: Cameron Rupp
SS: Freddy Galvis
SP: Jerad Eickhoff

[Wolves198921]

I would say the reds are highly likely to win, but Arroyo is pitching. Gonna need about eight runs to win this one, it's possible with our offense but it won't be easy. Might need a multi run homerun somewhere in there.

[Tom Servo]

Billy start the game with a perfect bunt hit.

Easily swipes 2nd base.

[Big Klu]

No chance. Put that one in your pocket. Bunt single for Billy!

Steals 2nd on the first pitch!

[Tom Servo]

Cozart! :jump:

2-0 Redlegs

[Big Klu]

As far as "military inspired" caps and unis go, these aren't too bad. However I would have preferred olive drab helmets.

[MusicTNRED]

hr by Cozart

[votto14]

Votto hbp

[kaldaniels]

Not getting crazy about the possibilities yet but if a contender needs a good bat they have to be taking a look at Cozart.

[Wolves198921]

We are off to a good start. Arroyo pitching though....

[Wolves198921]

Yep, yep, yep, yep

[Tom Servo]

lol Bronson

Cesar Hernandez leadoff HR

[kaldaniels]

Fastball ha! It looked offspeed it was so slow.

[durl]

Fastball ha! It looked offspeed it was so slow.
Arroyo is at the stage in his career that he needs to rely on deception rather than speed.

[Tom Servo]

If Wojciechowski is halfway decent until Garrett comes back that has gotta be it for Arroyo, right?

[kaldaniels]

Welsh is playing the company man role but you can tell he knows Bronson has no chance.

[durl]

If Wojciechowski is halfway decent until Garrett comes back that has gotta be it for Arroyo, right?
I'm pulling for him to improve. That ERA of almost 7 isn't giving me a lot to lean on, though.

[kaldaniels]

Arroyo is at the stage in his career that he needs to rely on deception rather than speed.

Yeah. But so is Jake Peavy (just one example) and he's at home watching games in his recliner.

[Tom Servo]

I'm pulling for him to improve. That ERA of almost 7 isn't giving me a lot to lean on, though.
I thought for a minute that MAYBE it could work, but it's really not going to get any better. He barely handle 90 pitches a start physically, at this point he's only here because there are literally no other options.

[durl]

HR allowed then nothing else leaves the infield.

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[Wolves198921]

Get arroyo out of there!!!

[durl]

Arroyo missed his spot again. Pitch was supposed to be inside and he hung it high in the middle of the zone.

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[Fil3232]

At least they're solo shots?

[Tadasimha]

Blow it open, Duvallstar

You missed the open part of what i said, Adam

[kaldaniels]

Blow it open, Duvallstar

Lucky to avoid the DatDuvallDP.

[Wolves198921]

Yeah I suspect this will be a loss today.

[Ron Madden]

Yeah I suspect this will be a loss today.

I'm glad the Reds don't give up as easily as you do.

[Tadasimha]

He was Tuckered out!

[BluegrassRedleg]

From the Reds...

Reds catchers have caught 5 of the last 6 baserunners attempting to steal. Barnhart has caught 3 of his last 4 and 5 of his last 8.

[WrongVerb]

Greetings from a bar inside Chicago's O'Hare Airport. Parts get the good guys some runs!

[votto14]

Arroyo with a hit

[texasdave]

I really think Bunny could be a 2-way player.

[Ron Madden]

I really think Bunny could be a 2-way player.

Not Me. I don't think he can Pitch. ;)

[votto14]

I'm so sick of arroyo.

[Tadasimha]

They keep getting them on, they will come around to score.

BA Bronson just has to limit the damage

[Wolves198921]

Another homerun, Jesus Christ

[durl]

3 solo HRs allowed. It's feast or famine with every Arroyo pitch.

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[Wolves198921]

If we can just get through the 5th not down by more than one I like our chances. Have the bullpen pitch the final four innings.

[votto14]

Cozy with another hit.

[Tadasimha]

Zarting the inning off right!

[Raisor]

I am currently in St Louis. I have my Reds cap on. Bring it on punks

- - - Updated - - -

I hate the Cardinals and their stupid fans

[paulrichjr]

Cozy with another hit.

I remember a couple of years ago when several posters stated that players don't learn to start hitting at Cozarts then age. It was all a fluke. I am starting to think those posters were dead wrong.

[votto14]

Welp that inning fell apart.

[Red Raindog]

snakebit

[Wolves198921]

Damn well hopefully we can get a grand slam one of these innings. Arroyo still has a couple homeruns in him I'm sure.

[votto14]

Welp! Lead off hit. I'm so sick of arroyo.

[texasdave]

Welp! Lead off hit. I'm so sick of arroyo.

At least in stayed in the park, barely.

[Wolves198921]

Welp! Lead off hit. I'm so sick of arroyo.
Just think about what this team would have been with competent, not even good or elite, but competent pitchers.

[Trademark]

Can we please release Arroyo already? This guy is a bum!

[votto14]

Austin brice warming up

[texasdave]

Cozart is a triple away from a cycle.

Bronson is one scoreless inning away from a quality start.

[votto14]

Whew out of that. Now let Brice start the 6th

[texasdave]

Bronson is at 84 pitches. This is the part of the game where he might start losing velocity. But, how could we tell?

[votto14]

Lead off hit for Geno!

[votto14]

Leaving runners on today are gonna beat us.

[texasdave]

Eickhoff appears to be eminently hittable.

[votto14]

Scooter!!!! Tie game!!!!

[Ron Madden]

Tie Ballgame

[Big Klu]

Scooter with an RBI double!

You know, it's fun to say "Scooter"! :D

[Tadasimha]

Here we go - time to put them put of your misery, reds!

[Tom Servo]

Nicely done Scooter

[Captain Hook]

Just think about what this team would have been with competent, not even good or elite, but competent pitchers.

Five Scott Feldman type starters and they're probably in first place.

[Red Raindog]

Tucker robbed out of a walk by the ump

[votto14]

Come on billy Hamilton!!!

[Tadasimha]

Say Hey Kiv!

[Strikes Out Looking]

Ok, he's not exactly Cy Young, but Bronson keeps the Reds in the game - and goes at least 5 again. When all the other pitchers have gone down with boo boo after boo boo, he trots out every fifth day, and while its not pretty, it's not terrible.

[Mutaman]

Ok, he's not exactly Cy Young, but Bronson keeps the Reds in the game - and goes at least 5 again. When all the other pitchers have gone down with boo boo after boo boo, he trots out every fifth day, and while its not pretty, it's not terrible.

The modern fan is not into guys who trot out every fifth day- they're into guys who throw 97 and are constantly on the dl.

[CySeymour]

Ok, he's not exactly Cy Young, but Bronson keeps the Reds in the game - and goes at least 5 again. When all the other pitchers have gone down with boo boo after boo boo, he trots out every fifth day, and while its not pretty, it's not terrible.

He has a 6.62 ERA. That seems pretty terrible to me.

[votto14]

Billy Hamilton kills me at the plate. He swings at every thing low.

[Wolves198921]

Runners on second and third and a strikeout... Not getting any clutch hits today with two outs.

[votto14]

Brice coming on!

[Strikes Out Looking]

He has a 6.62 ERA. That seems pretty terrible to me.

It's not the ERA that's important in this case- its that he keeps them close everytime he goes out - I'm not saying he's perfect, but its not like Alfredo Simon last year who would let the team be down 9-2 in the 4th inning. I just appreciate the fact that he's still competing - of course I wish he was Bronson circa 2010 but that won't happen.

[votto14]

Nobody gets to that ball except billy hamilton!

[Red Raindog]

a good play by Votto

[votto14]

Let's get some runs!

[Ron Madden]

Nice Play by Votto and Brice

[Tadasimha]

Ichi ni san - arigato, brice-san

[Tadasimha]

I had no idea pat neshek was still playing

[votto14]

Another hit for cozart. Just amazing

[Captain Hook]

It's not the ERA that's important in this case- its that he keeps them close everytime he goes out - I'm not saying he's perfect, but its not like Alfredo Simon last year who would let the team be down 9-2 in the 4th inning. I just appreciate the fact that he's still competing - of course I wish he was Bronson circa 2010 but that won't happen.

He only keeps them close because the Reds score 3 or 4 runs in the four or five innings Bronson pitches. Not good.

[Big Klu]

Zack Attack is 4-for-4.

[CySeymour]

It's not the ERA that's important in this case- its that he keeps them close everytime he goes out - I'm not saying he's perfect, but its not like Alfredo Simon last year who would let the team be down 9-2 in the 4th inning. I just appreciate the fact that he's still competing - of course I wish he was Bronson circa 2010 but that won't happen.

I get what you're saying, but the number of runs he's giving up is important since he isn't giving them innings. He was only able to go 5 today and gave up 3 runs. Now the bullpen has to thrown 4 shutout innings. That's a tall order for any bullpen to absorb. He's had 10 starts has thrown under 52 innings. He's overtaxing the bullpen. If you're going to be throwing pitchers out there that aren't going to give you innings, then they need to be throwing pitchers out there that have a chance at a future with the Reds.

[Tadasimha]

Cozart 4 for 4

[texasdave]

Another hit for cozart. Just amazing

Did he try for a triple? I would have just kept on running.

[votto14]

Votto is snake bit

[Tom Servo]

Votto really can't catch a break today.

[texasdave]

Ichi ni san - arigato, brice-san

I drove an itchy Nissan once. I have no idea what the upholstery was made of.

[Strikes Out Looking]

I get what you're saying, but the number of runs he's giving up is important since he isn't giving them innings. He was only able to go 5 today and gave up 3 runs. Now the bullpen has to thrown 4 shutout innings. That's a tall order for any bullpen to absorb. He's had 10 starts has thrown under 52 innings. He's overtaxing the bullpen. If you're going to be throwing pitchers out there that aren't going to give you innings, then they need to be throwing pitchers out there that have a chance at a future with the Reds.

You do realize if all the Reds starters could go at least 5, they'd be leading the division. I'd love for him to go more - and he probably could have given them another inning today, but what I'm saying is I appreciate Bronson's effort.

[Big Klu]

Did he try for a triple? I would have just kept on running.

If he had tried for a triple, he would have been out at second by about 50 feet.

[Tadasimha]

Votto is snake bit

12456

[Tom Servo]

Brice's mustache is coming along well.

[Banshee]

Another good inning by Brice.

[votto14]

Good job Brice!

[Wolves198921]

Going to come down to the wire

[Tom Servo]

Remembering Opening Day last year when Thom got incredibly mad at Odubel Herrera for no good reason

Nice inning from Wandy

[Ron Madden]

I gotta say I love this Bullpen.

[votto14]

Alcantara is a automatic out

[Tom Servo]

Alcantara is a automatic out
Still hitting a decent .267 on the season.

Pinch hitting isn't terribly easy.

[votto14]

Cozart walks. Come on votto!

[Ron Madden]

Good Eye Cozart!

[votto14]

Votto isn't getting cheated at the plate he's getting some great hacks

[Wolves198921]

Votto playing terrible today. Cozart gets on five times to set him up and nothing.

[Donder]

Marty just said Votto is one of the great hitters in the game today. I feel like I need to mention these things every time I hear them for those who never listen to the game but believe all Marty does is rip Votto.

[Tom Servo]

Votto playing terrible today.
Cut him IMO.

[Ron Madden]

Votto playing terrible today. Cozart gets on five times to set him up and nothing.

I know of at least 2 times today where Joey hammered the ball hard, right at Phillie fielders.

[votto14]

Lead off basehit. This isn't gonna end good

[Tom Servo]

Lorenzen at 92-93 mph today. Hmm.

[votto14]

Welp! Might be ballgame

[Ron Madden]

WP

[Banshee]

Boo.

[votto14]

Can't win em all boys. We had our chances

[Tom Servo]

There's 98 mph for Lorenzen.

But there's the ballgame.

[Tadasimha]

Wonder why peralta didnt get the 9th - only 10 pitches in the 8th

[Ron Madden]

Sometimes ya get beat

[Wolves198921]

Wow lost to the worst team in baseball. Good lord we suck

[Tom Servo]

Wow lost to the worst team in baseball. Good lord we suck
Oh grow up.

[Big Klu]

Wonder why peralta didnt get the 9th - only 10 pitches in the 8th

Because they pinch-hit for him to lead off the ninth inning.

[votto14]

Can't afford losses like that when your 2 back.

[Tony Cloninger]

Wow lost to the worst team in baseball. Good lord we suck

Was it over when the Japenese invaded Poland??

[Donder]

Wow lost to the worst team in baseball. Good lord we suck

How did the Reds lose to themselves? Amirite?

[Tony Cloninger]

Can't afford losses like that when your 2 back.

Especially this late in September too.

[Ron Madden]

Come back and get'em tomorrow

[Tadasimha]

Because they pinch-hit for him to lead off the ninth inning.

I know but seems like it would have been worth a shot to send him up there

[kaldaniels]

I know but seems like it would have been worth a shot to send him up there

Nah. That never happens tied in the ninth. Maybe in a weird situation with Chapman or the like, but never for a Peralta type guy.

[votto14]

2.5 games out and almost June 1st. I'll take it. I honestly thought at beginning of year we'd be 11 or 12 out based on predictions from analyst and so forth. This team doesn't quit. Go reds!

[GADawg]

Long season and ridiculous to get too worked up over any single loss or win but I woulda slept a lot better tonight if Lorenzen woulda just given up a lead off dinger rather than that freakin walk

[Ron Madden]

Lorenzen motivated to do better after first loss

http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/232843422/reds-michael-lorenzen-stays-upbeat-after-loss/

[Tom Servo]

Long season and ridiculous to get too worked up over any single loss or win but I woulda slept a lot better tonight if Lorenzen woulda just given up a lead off dinger rather than that freakin walk
Lorenzen didn't walk anybody.

[GADawg]

Lorenzen didn't walk anybody.

I thought that guy walked and then got wild pitched to 2nd.....did he single?



Yep went back and looked....single on the 3-2 pitch....I was slowly fast forwarding and thought he walked him