Sunday 5.28.17 Reds @ Phils 1:35 start

[klw]

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[NebraskaRed]

Peraza extending that hitting streak with a lead off single

[redhawkfish]

Ho hum! Another hit for Cozart.

[votto14]

Cozy!!!

[votto14]

Votto in a slump

[zrt123]

votto seemingly hasn't hit the phillies well over the last couple of years

[NebraskaRed]

He's safe

No challenge? Say whaaat?

[votto14]

They did't challenge it

[OnBaseMachine]

Safe or not, why is Suarez stealing with an HR threat at the plate and a runner already in scoring position.

[NebraskaRed]

8 pitch inning for Feldman ends, like the top of the first, with a caught stealing.

[NebraskaRed]

Scheeeeeb!

[Kingspoint]

Nice start by the REDS.

They have a great weapon late in the game in Pinchrunner Hamilton, should he be needed.

[Raisor]

I have no opinion on that HR by Schebler

[Kc61]

I have no opinion on that HR by Schebler

Do you have an opinion on the RBI single by Duvall?

[Raisor]

Do you have an opinion on the RBI single by Duvall?

it was swell single.

With all experience I'm glad we have enough information to discuss it.

[kaldaniels]

Do you have an opinion on the RBI single by Duvall?

Note this. When it's a guy Kc likes it's an "RBI" single.

[NebraskaRed]

Note this. When it's a guy Kc likes it's an "RBI" single.

when someone I don't like hits a single I call it a "failed double"

[Tom Servo]

Whoops

[votto14]

And the starting pitching continues to suck.

[durl]

Can our pitchers quit making the Phillies look like a .500 team??

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[Kc61]

when someone I don't like hits a single I call it a "failed double"

Oh, I read the comment as meaning that Kaldaniels denies the existence of RBIs.

Or maybe he denies the existence of singles.

[Red Raindog]

I do have an opinion on that home run -- but it's a family board

[votto14]

Amazing we could be in the division race if it wasn't for this stupid Rotation.

[Raisor]

Amazing we could be in the division race if it wasn't for this stupid Rotation.

We could have chicken soup if we had chicken

[NebraskaRed]

4 hits and 3 runs this inning (so far)

[Tom Servo]

Feldman's "good start, bad start" thing is pretty impressive in its own right.

[Wolves198921]

What's the record for worst starting rotation ERA through May? It must be in serious jeopardy. But yeah looks like another loss.

[votto14]

We could have chicken soup if we had chicken

It's just amazing how bad it is and it's not getting any better

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For the love of God get him out. Jesus this is just embarrassing

[NebraskaRed]

RBI double by the pitcher. THAT AIN'T GOOD

[Wolves198921]

Get Feldman out of there!!! Tell Price to go with him too

[votto14]

It's pretty sad when the phillies are doing this. God we suck. Esp our rotation. We could be in the division race and first place if we had starting pitching. God awful.

[Raisor]

It's just amazing how bad it is and it's not getting any better

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For the love of God get him out. Jesus this is just embarrassing

Let Feldman take the beating. Keep the powder dry for later

[votto14]

Let Feldman take the beating. Keep the powder dry for later

I actually want a winning team unlike most of you. This getting out brains beat in gets old. I'd like to see us compete and actually have some pitching. It gets old.

[Wolves198921]

It's pretty sad when the phillies are doing this. God we suck. Esp our rotation. We could be in the division race and first place if we had starting pitching. God awful.
Reds front office is to blame too. They are ignorantly stubborn in their efforts to not contend, and rebuild, which is a nice way of saying sucking, until 2018. Phillies are 16-30 and blowing us out.

[Ron Madden]

I don't think this game is over quite yet. :pray:

[durl]

Can we just unload most of the rotation? I fail to see how they're currently better than some AAA rotations.

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[NebraskaRed]

I actually want a winning team unlike most of you. This getting out brains beat in gets old. I'd like to see us compete and actually have some pitching. It gets old.

I'd say almost all people who post on here want the Reds to win. We differ on how best to do that.

[Tom Servo]

The votto14-Wolves198921 pity party isn't very interesting.

[Wolves198921]

Can we just unload most of the rotation? I fail to see how they're currently better than some AAA rotations.

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AAA? Hey now don't count out AA, A, and division one college.

[durl]

The Houston Astros are a great team. I thought it would take them 10 years to be competitive but they make us look pitiful.

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[NebraskaRed]

Votto singles. Take that, mini slump

[Ron Madden]

Tie Ballgame.

[NebraskaRed]

Tie ballgame

[Kc61]

I guess I shouldn't call that a two-run homer by Duvall.

[Raisor]

Duvall gets within 3 HRs of Schebler

[Wolves198921]

The votto14-Wolves198921 pity party isn't very interesting.
I have to take my frustration out on here. During UK basketball season I hit my wrist so many times on my coffee table that I can't do that anymore becuase my wrist is bruised. Otherwise I would just do that.

[Raisor]

I have no opinion on Schebler flying out to CF

[Kc61]

Duvall gets within 3 HRs of Schebler

I guess when it's a player you like, you call it an "HR".

[NebraskaRed]

I have no opinion on Schebler flying out to CF

Do you have an opinion on the Keystone's bbq bacon mac n cheese that I ate last Sunday at GABP? Because my stomach did.

[Tom Servo]

lol @ this petty Schebler vs Duvall thing

[Raisor]

Do you have an opinion on the Keystone's bbq bacon mac n cheese that I ate last Sunday at GABP? Because my stomach did.

I will let you know after 600 appearances, but only if I cab do it in one calendar year

[durl]

No runs given up this inning!! What is going on?!?!

[Ron Madden]

Now settle down Feldman..

[Ron Madden]

Kivlehan!!!!!

HR 5-4 Reds!!!!

[Kc61]

lol @ this petty Schebler vs Duvall thing

It is petty, sorry to be contributing.

Feldman is a 4.00 type pitcher. He's not a long term answer but I hope he can stay above water.

The Reds need it badly.

Kivlehan!!!

[NebraskaRed]

Kivlehomer

[Tom Servo]

Kivlehan! :jump:

[Raisor]

RBI by Kiblihan

[BluegrassRedleg]

Perfect timing there. [emoji3]


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[NebraskaRed]

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Reds' offense vs. Reds' pitching

[Wolves198921]

Feldman pitches great at home, like arroyo on the road.

[Tom Servo]

Speaking of starting pitching, I'm at a complete loss at how J.C. Ramirez has 3.20 ERA with the Angels in 9 starts this season.

[Kc61]

Feldman pitches great at home, like arroyo on the road.

GABP is such a homer-friendly park, you'd wonder why some Reds' pitchers do better there.

But they do. The psychology of home-road performance splits is an interesting subject.

[Ron Madden]

Reds turn two!

[Ron Madden]

5-4 Reds after 4 innings

[votto14]

It's not a pity party it's fact. We just aren't real good. The Astros are doing good. Some of these rebuilds are doing good. But we can't never get over the hump. It sucks as a fan. You see teams winning consistently and we just don't.

[Kc61]

Speaking of starting pitching, I'm at a complete loss at how J.C. Ramirez has 3.20 ERA with the Angels in 9 starts this season.

Isn't he the guy who had pretty good stuff and some felt should not have been cut last year?

[Tom Servo]

Isn't he the guy who had pretty good stuff and some felt should not have been cut last year?
Were you one of them? Don't beat around the bush.

[Ron Madden]

The Louisville Slugger strike again

[votto14]

Duvall!!!!! Yesssss

[NebraskaRed]

Duvall, my lord

[Tom Servo]

Duvall! :jump:

[votto14]

It's just frustrating guys when your offense is good and your pitching sucks

[Tom Servo]

lol the Votto-Duvall celebration

[Raisor]

It's not a pity party it's fact. We just aren't real good. The Astros are doing good. Some of these rebuilds are doing good. But we can't never get over the hump. It sucks as a fan. You see teams winning consistently and we just don't.

Yet somehow a rebuilding team with an injury laden rotation is in the thick of things

[BluegrassRedleg]

Something tells me 7 doesn't win today. [emoji14]


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[Kc61]

Were you one of them? Don't beat around the bush.

No. I didn't have any particular opinion of JC Ramirez. Just have a vague memory that some felt he should have been retained. Maybe they were right.

[RedsLvr]

It's not a pity party it's fact. We just aren't real good. The Astros are doing good. Some of these rebuilds are doing good. But we can't never get over the hump. It sucks as a fan. You see teams winning consistently and we just don't.

2010 Astros: 76-86
2011 Astros: 56-106
2012 Astros: 55-107
2013 Astros: 51-111
2014 Astros: 70-92

The Astros have finally finished their rebuild. It isn't an overnight process.

[Ron Madden]

It's just frustrating guys when your offense is good and your pitching sucks

Just hang with'em.. It's foolish to lose your mind every time the Reds fall behind early in games.

Dick Williams has a plan. A plan to be competitive every year.. It takes time to do it right.

[RedsLvr]

Something tells me 7 doesn't win today. [emoji14]


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Tell something to shove it

[Tom Servo]

No. I didn't have any particular opinion of JC Ramirez. Just have a vague memory that some felt he should have been retained. Maybe they were right.
I remember he was a guy malcontent took a liking to, he often picks random players like Roger Bernadina to really promote.

Looking at his numbers, he's really benefited from the big ballpark in Anaheim. He gave up 7 HRs in 32.1 innings with the Reds compared to a not great but significantly better 8 HRs in 61.1 innings this year with the Angels.

[votto14]

Feldman don't need to face many more batters

[Tom Servo]

Kivlehan still not good in the outfield.

[Kc61]

I remember he was a guy malcontent took a liking to, he often picks random players like Roger Bernadina to really promote.

Looking at his numbers, he's really benefited from the big ballpark in Anaheim. He gave up 7 HRs in 32.1 innings with the Reds compared to a not great but significantly better 8 HRs in 61.1 innings this year with the Angels.

Roger Bernadina. Brings back memories.

Michael Jack Schmidt likes the Reds hitters. Pretty good authority.

[votto14]

Heading to the 6th 7-4 reds

[BluegrassRedleg]

Growing up, it felt like Mike Schmidt hit a HR every game against the Reds.


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[Tom Servo]

Schmidt looks great for 67

[PutPeteIn]

Scott "corey freakin" feldman!!!

[WrongVerb]

Schmidt looks great for 67

I didn't see...was he sans mustache or was it just white?

Being a Dayton native, I've always had a great affinity for Schmidt.

[Ron Madden]

Gotto now root home a winner guys...

[Kc61]

I remember when Mike Schmidt first came up. Had an early issues with Ks. Yet everyone knew he was the real deal.

My baseball awareness only goes back to about 1960, but Schmidt may be the greatest all around third baseman in baseball history.

Give me Johnny Bench and Mike Schmidt and a good pitching staff, I'll take my chances.

[Big Klu]

Roger Bernadina. Brings back memories.

Michael Jack Schmidt likes the Reds hitters. Pretty good authority.

I seem to remember Schmidt's name being thrown about as someone the Reds were looking at to fill the hole at 1B prior to the 1989 season, but he decided to stay in Philadelphia.

[Kc61]

Blake Wood. Let it be the good Blake Wood. The good one has shown up more often lately.

[Tom Servo]

That wasn't a bad start from Feldman all things considered

[votto14]

Welp here comes bad Blake wood

[BluegrassRedleg]

Wood. Sigh...


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[Wolves198921]

Maybe Feldman should have stayed in....

[Big Klu]

Blake Wood. Let it be the good Blake Wood. The good one has shown up more often lately.

Not so fast, my friend.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/~/media/AF57F24049264F6384E9465609C200E2.ashx?w=251

[Kc61]

Hold them to one run max, Blake, then turn the game over to Peralta, Iglesias, etc.

[votto14]

I wouldn't mess around with Blake wood here

[Tracy Jones]

I loathe Blake Coffey. The guy is useless.

[NebraskaRed]

Bad Wood is in fir the 6th. Son of a beech

[Kc61]

Double play. Philly fans boo. C'mon, Wood.

[PutPeteIn]

The Pitcher's Best Friend has shown himself three times in the first 6 frames today.
Boom!

[Kc61]

Blake Wood. Never in doubt.

[PutPeteIn]

3.42 for Blake this team is starting to roll my friends.

[NebraskaRed]

I never doubted Wood for a second

[Tracy Jones]

I feel like every time Wood gets someone out, he was either very fortunate or the batter is just terrible.

[Tracy Jones]

Peraza crushed that one

[Tracy Jones]

3.42 for Blake this team is starting to roll my friends.

I thought you gave up last week?

[Tom Servo]

C'mon Jose I know you're better than all these 1 for 4 games

[Wolves198921]

In April during the first series with Philadelphia they said Philly was further along in the rebuild, and now they are saying the reds are. I agree that the reds are further along.

[Tracy Jones]

C'mon Jose I know you're better than all these 1 for 4 games

He is. But yeah it's been a pretty rough first 2 months for him.

[Kingspoint]

I know I'm just stating the obvious, but if just the team could start getting a quality start 50% of the time, this league-leading Defense and league-leading Offense would make them playoff contenders. Ut doesn't mean you panic and sacrifice any of the future for this year or a one-year rental next season, but, they could experience a valuable playoff race while they're building a contending team.

[Tracy Jones]

Peralta is a young Arthur Rhodes

[PutPeteIn]

2.49 for Peralta

The overturn in Cleveland and subsequent knock by Cozart and mad dash by Hamilton has ignited this club!

[Tracy Jones]

When is the last time you felt the Reds can score in any inning, with any part of the lineup? Been a looooong time for me.

[WrongVerb]

When is the last time you felt the Reds can score in any inning, with any part of the lineup? Been a looooong time for me.

Gone are the days when half the lineup was an automatic out

[Tracy Jones]

2.49 for Peralta

The overturn in Cleveland and subsequent knock by Cozart and mad dash by Hamilton has ignited this club!

Or the Phillies stink...

[Tracy Jones]

Gone are the days when half the lineup was an automatic out

Sure seems that way doesn't it. Peraza is about the only one for me these days.

[Kc61]

Schebler with a solid line drive, but they had him played well defensively.

Keep it going, bullpen.

[Raisor]

He is. But yeah it's been a pretty rough first 2 months for him.

750 ops in May.

Awful April

[Tracy Jones]

750 ops in May.

Awful April

Quiet you

[Tracy Jones]

Ever since I praised Storen he's been awful. So with that in mind, I'm gonna say I hate Storen and he's terrible.

[PutPeteIn]

2.57 Storen is getting it done.
Reds bull pen is lights out

[Kc61]

Sorry to repeat from a previous thread, but you notice how all that multi-inning relief is down the drain?

Perfect example today. Feldman went five. A one inning stint in the sixth, seventh, and eighth. And likely Iggy in the ninth unless the Reds open it up.

Iggy is now functioning much like the typical closer. Lorenzen the typical set up man (off today).

Interesting, probably just easier to administer without all the long outings.

[PutPeteIn]

Iggy in the 9th as the Reds continue to contend in the NLC as they await the arrival of the 4 Horsemen.

[NebraskaRed]

Kivlehomer part 2

[Kc61]

Iggy in the 9th as the Reds continue to contend in the NLC as they await the arrival of the 4 Horsemen.

With the Kiv ninth inning homer, wonder if Storen will pitch the ninth.

[Kc61]

Stephenson is now throwing. He still on the team? Hasn't pitched in awhile.

[Fil3232]

Sorry to repeat from a previous thread, but you notice how all that multi-inning relief is down the drain?

Perfect example today. Feldman went five. A one inning stint in the sixth, seventh, and eighth. And likely Iggy in the ninth unless the Reds open it up.

Iggy is now functioning much like the typical closer. Lorenzen the typical set up man (off today).

Interesting, probably just easier to administer without all the long outings.

I think the starters' inability to consistently get deep into games has influenced the pen's usage. Tough to throw guys multiple innings when it could be all hands on deck seemingly any day.

[Kc61]

I think the starters' inability to consistently get deep into games has influenced the pen's usage. Tough to throw guys multiple innings when it could be all hands on deck seemingly any day.

Good point. Particularly since the Reds have been close in a number of games.

With the close games, the Reds keep going to their main relievers most games. Stephenson, Brice, Woj, less so.

[BluegrassRedleg]

When is the last time you felt the Reds can score in any inning, with any part of the lineup? Been a looooong time for me.

Great question. 1999?


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[Tom Servo]

When is the last time you felt the Reds can score in any inning, with any part of the lineup? Been a looooong time for me.
05-06, maybe 2010

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hey. No 1-4 for Peraza!!!


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[Tony Cloninger]

It's probably going to be like this most of the year then. If a Teds stater goes 7 it's like a complete game.

[Kc61]

I noticed that Peraza's line drive rate was declining. Even though his hitting was generally better.

Today he's had a number of "line drives" (not all smashes).

He needs to keep doing that. He's very BABIP dependent and needs to keep BABIP high with LDs.

[NebraskaRed]

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Going 1 for 4 ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

[Tracy Jones]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JBhu8NQKKRM/T2kgvTTJxCI/AAAAAAAAJCk/CTTsP5_vh1I/s1600/PDVD_197.BMP

Going 1 for 4 ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

When you come see our mother, let me know a day in advance so I won't be there

[Kc61]

Fredo Peraza?

[Wolves198921]

Hopefully we can win this game but the Phillies have been tough each of the last two nine innings this series.

[Tracy Jones]

I noticed that Peraza's line drive rate was declining. Even though his hitting was generally better.

Today he's had a number of "line drives" (not all smashes).

He needs to keep doing that. He's very BABIP dependent and needs to keep BABIP high with LDs.

He's had a LOT of weak contact this year.

[Kc61]

He's had a LOT of weak contact this year.

If he gets his line drive rate up, he'll get a lot of base hits. He's not going to hit with the exit velocity of the big boys.

Line drives and medium contact is the key for Peraza. I think he can do it, but he has to perform.

He's been better of late, but has to continue hitting more like late last season.

Reds win!!!

[OnBaseMachine]

What has happened to Iglesias's control this year? He walks a guy that doesn't walk with two outs in an 8-4 game. I don't understand using him here anyway. Stephenson shouldn't be on the roster if he's not going to pitch in this situation.

Reds win!

[votto14]

Reds take 2 of 3 from Phillies

[WrongVerb]

Yay!

[Tom Servo]

We're good again! :beerme:

[NebraskaRed]

winning a series in Philly for the first time in 11 years feels pretty good.

[Big Klu]

Today's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Patrick Kivlehan.

[votto14]

Brewers up 8-3 with dbacks bases loaded no outs be nice if dbacks could come back in the 8th.

[Tom Servo]

If he gets his line drive rate up, he'll get a lot of base hits. He's not going to hit with the exit velocity of the big boys.

Line drives and medium contact is the key for Peraza. I think he can do it, but he has to perform.

He's been better of late, but has to continue hitting more like late last season.



"This is my first full year in the big leagues. Last year maybe the pitchers didn't know me as well as they know me right now," Peraza said via translator Julio Morillo. "I think they know how to pitch me right now. I've been making the adjustments at the plate. Everything is going to work out for me. It's coming."

Peraza has been putting in the time off the field to make improvements.

"I feel good," Peraza said in English. "I'm working every day in the cage with [hitting coaches] Tony [Jaramillo] and Don [Long]. Sometimes, things don't go the way that you want, but it's part of the game."

http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/232927570/reds-jose-peraza-rebounds-after-slow-start/

[Kc61]

Happy to read those Peraza quotes.

[Ron Madden]

QUOTABLE
"We've had a couple of stretches where we didn't win many games and there was never, ever a point where things just shut down in the dugout, where the at-bats didn't matter, where the defense didn't matter, where the baserunning or pitching didn't matter. That's a great sign because there are times, or maybe a stretch, where you feel flat. And we haven't had a stretch like that. It's a credit to the guys and how much they enjoy playing together and what our expectations are, which are to exceed everyone else's expectations." -- Reds manager Bryan Price, on his 24-25 club.

http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/232924572/reds-homer-five-times-in-win-against-phillies/

[ScotlandRed]

I have no opinion on Schebler flying out to CF

Thank god he wasn't doing it in the Major's

[ScotlandRed]

I was not a fan of picking Feldman up. But he has been the genuine definition of #5 starter. Some good, some OK, some terrible outings.

He's not the problem.

Anyway, good win.

[CrackerJack]

Happy to read those Peraza quotes.


Definitely a guy I'm happy to see them be patient with this year. No way I'd give up on him at this point.