6/26/17 Reds @ Cards

[Ron Madden]

REDS

1. Jose Peraza (R) SS
2. Scooter Gennett (L) 2B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Adam Duvall (R) LF
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Scott Schebler (L) RF
7. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
8. Patrick Kivlehan (R) CF
9. Brandon Finnegan (L) P

Cardinals

1. Tommy Pham (R) CF
2. Randal Grichuk (R) LF
3. Stephen Piscotty (R) RF
4. Jedd Gyorko (R) 3B
5. Yadier Molina (R) C
6. Luke Voit (R) 1B
7. Paul DeJong (R) 2B
8. Aledmys Diaz (R) SS
9. Michael Wacha (R) P

[Tom Servo]

Kivlehan in CF gives me flashbacks to Brennan Boesch in CF.

[cumberlandreds]

Peraza with a .282 OBP batting leadoff. Good lord.................

[WVRedsFan]

Peraza with a .282 OBP batting leadoff. Good lord.................Peraza couldn't be any worse than bHam leading off, but Kivlehan in center is head scratching.

OBP of tonight's lineup vs. Wacha:

Peraza - .000
Scooter - .357
Votto - .432
Duvall - .357
Suarez -.444
Shebler - .250
Rocco - .364
Kivlehan- .000

Missing from the lineup at .357 is Barnhart, Cozart at .480, and Hamilton at .167.

Where's Winger? Why bat Mesorocco 8th? Crazy.

[RedTeamGo!]

Peraza couldn't be any worse than bHam leading off, but Kivlehan in center is head scratching.

OBP of tonight's lineup vs. Wacha:

Peraza - .000
Scooter - .357
Votto - .432
Duvall - .357
Suarez -.444
Shebler - .250
Rocco - .364
Kivlehan- .000

Missing from the lineup at .357 is Barnhart, Cozart at .480, and Hamilton at .167.

Where's Winger? Why bat Mesorocco 8th? Crazy.

Who is Winger? Do you mean Winker? He was sent to AAA.

[CySeymour]

Where's Winger? Why bat Mesorocco 8th? Crazy.

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[Big Klu]

Not sure I understand Kivlehan in CF and Schebler in RF. If neither Hamilton nor Alcantara are in the lineup, then Schebler should be in CF, IMO.

However, upon reflection, Kivlehan did play safety for a Division I college football team (Rutgers), so maybe he can play CF.

[Big Klu]

Top 1st:

Peraza single to LF
Peraza CS, 2-6
Gennett K swinging
Votto flyout, 8

CIN 0
STL 0
Mid 1st

[Red Raindog]

Kivlehan in CF gives me flashbacks to Brennan Boesch in CF.

and there is an adverse play right away ---

[Wolves198921]

It's all good. Rec league players make the same mistake

[Big Klu]

and there is an adverse play right away ---

THom registers his disgust, vehemently.

He is a chip off the old block.

[Red Raindog]

Did the Reds have to hitch hike to St. Loo? They're looking like this is the case

[NebraskaRed]

solid playing, so far.

[DocRed]

Finnegan giving Homer a run for his money

[NebraskaRed]

Finnegan saw Homer's start and said "we're allowed to do that?"

[reds44]

Just wait until Bailey and Finnegan are back

[Larry Schuler]

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[BluegrassRedleg]

Same as it ever was... Same as it ever was... Same as it ever was...


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[Wolves198921]

This team has regressed. A team they dominated several weeks ago is now at a level above us. I think the Reds are calling this season in. I know the nationals and dodgers are a level above but now the cardinals.

[Big Klu]

Bottom 1st:

Pham BB
Grichuk flyout, 8. Pham tags up and goes to 2nd
Pham steals 3rd
Piscotty BB. Pham scores on PB. 1-0 STL
Gyorko 2-run HR to LF. Piscotty scores. 3-0 STL
Molina groundout, 5-3
Voit K swinging

CIN 0
STL 3
End 1st

[NebraskaRed]

just need Scooter to hit 3 solo home runs and they're right back in this.

[Big Klu]

Top 2nd:

Duvall reaches on throwing error, E5
Suarez flyout, 9
Schebler single to RF, Duvall to 3rd
Mesoraco grounds into 5-4-3 DP

CIN 0
STL 3
Mid 2nd

[CaiGuy]

Nice block at the plate...surprised it's legal

[Big Klu]

Bottom 2nd:

DeJong double to LF corner
Diaz groundout, 6-3. DeJong to 3rd
Wacha FC to 1B, DeJong out 3-2
Wacha to 2nd on PB
Pham BB
Grichuk lineout, 8L

CIN 0
STL 3
End 2nd

[Big Klu]

Mesoraco having trouble catching the ball.

[Big Klu]

Top 3rd:

Kivlehan K swinging
Finnigan groundout, 6-3
Peraza groundout, 5-3

CIN 0
STL 3
Mid 3rd

[kaldaniels]

Arroyo says he's probably done save a ceremonial one-inning appearance.

[NebraskaRed]

Arroyo saying what we all knew

[CaiGuy]

BA thinks he's done pitching.

[Tom Servo]

lol all I really wanted was limited walks from Finnegan in this game. Already 4 in 2.1 innings

[Raisor]

lol all I really wanted was limited walks from Finnegan in this game. Already 4 in 2.1 innings

I just want him healthy tomorrow

[Big Klu]

Bottom 3rd:

Piscotty K swinging, 2U
Gyorko BB
Molina single to LF, Gyorko to 2nd
Voit grounds into a 5-4-yessiree-3!

CIN 0
STL 3
End 3rd

[klw]

Same as it ever was... Same as it ever was... Same as it ever was...


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[Tom Servo]

I just want him healthy tomorrow
That cuts it for Homer. But a Finnegan who finishes this season with a BB/9 as high or higher than last year is gonna bum me out.

[Kc61]

I just want him healthy tomorrow

Yeah, I think the important thing is that Finnegan is throwing without discomfort and with, basically, his normal stuff.

The command is going to take awhile.

Much more concerned about Bailey who missed two years.

[Raisor]

That cuts it for Homer. But a Finnegan who finishes this season with a BB/9 as high or higher than last year is gonna bum me out.

Sure, but this is his first game back so my primary wish is that he's healthy tomorrow

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds with their first real threat......can they score?

[Raisor]

Reds with their first real threat......can they score?

Yes

[50YrRedsFan]

Now how about a big hit to score a couple?

[50YrRedsFan]

Suarez scuffling some recently.......move Schebler up and Suarez down in the lineup.

[Big Klu]

Top 4th:

Gennett infield single off the P
Votto single to RF, Gennett to 3rd
Duvall sac fly to RF, 9SF. Gennett scores. 3-1 STL
Suarez K looking
Schebler K swinging

CIN 1
STL 3
Mid 4th

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds hitters unable to make contact with runners on. Ugh

[WVRedsFan]

Who is Winger? Do you mean Winker? He was sent to AAA.Can't type or read and do research. Guess I'm not paying attention. Mea Culpa.

[Big Klu]

THom now scheming ways to coerce Votto into going up the Gateway Arch, even though Joey says it scares him.

[Raisor]

Finnegan might be injured

[DocRed]

Christ..

[Tom Servo]

Finnegan might be injured
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[50YrRedsFan]

I've been saying for years this team is cursed.

[kaldaniels]

Just watching it - how did Devin know he was hurt so fast? He was on it.

[Big Klu]

Honestly, is anyone really surprised by this? I thought they were pushing Finnegan too quickly, and he could have used more rehab.

[kaldaniels]

I forget who, but this is going to nullify the shoe eating we were promised, right?

[Big Klu]

Just watching it - how did Devin know he was hurt so fast? He was on it.

Catchers are usually in tune with their pitchers, and notice little things that other people don't.

[Norse1978]

How could Dick Williams and the trainers let him start if he wasn't 100 percent?

[kaldaniels]

Catchers are usually in tune with their pitchers, and notice little things that other people don't.

Yeah I figured...I just try to pick what what happened and I didn't see it.

[Tom Servo]

Honestly, is anyone really surprised by this? I thought they were pushing Finnegan too quickly, and he could have used more rehab.
He was out for two months and made 3 rehab starts. I'm a bit ticked about this, but it doesn't especially matter if it happened here or in a rehab start today in Louisville.

[50YrRedsFan]

If Finney reaggravated the injury, that could do it for him for the year. He is a max effort pitcher. Not surprising.

[Raisor]

Sure, but this is his first game back so my primary wish is that he's healthy tomorrow

Damnit

[kaldaniels]

He was out for two months and made 3 rehab starts. I'm a bit ticked about this, but it doesn't especially matter if it happened here or in a rehab start today in Louisville.

Yeah...he only threw 58 pitches today.

[Big Klu]

He was out for two months and made 3 rehab starts. I'm a bit ticked about this, but it doesn't especially matter if it happened here or in a rehab start today in Louisville.

Except in Louisville, it's a more controlled environment, and maybe it doesn't happen.

[kaldaniels]

Except in Louisville, it's a more controlled environment, and maybe it doesn't happen.

It's one of those "we'll never know" things but I don't think it matters...feel free to object. If Finny felt something earlier - that's on him.

[Tom Servo]

Except in Louisville, it's a more controlled environment, and maybe it doesn't happen.
I mean, I guess? I'd have preferred another rehab start just to get his pitch count up but if he still had lingering issues they were gonna be exposed either way.

I'm frustrated, and I don't really blame people for finger pointing, but it's not like this doesn't happen all the time in baseball.

[Raisor]

And we don't know what's wrong yet

[kaldaniels]

And we don't know what's wrong yet

So you're saying there's still a chance for shoe-eating?

[JaxRed]

I assume Mez saw the grimace on his face.

[50YrRedsFan]

What's frustrating is the Reds can't get a run in with 2 on and one out, but the Cards get a 2 out hit to score a runner from 2nd.

[Tom Servo]

What's frustrating is the Reds can't get a run in with 2 on and one out, but the Cards get a 2 out hit to score a runner from 2nd.
The Reds are never going to bat 1.000, mate.

[Banshee]

Hmmm.

[WVRedsFan]

Wait until we get Bray back.

[Tom Servo]

Oh yikes. Brice has been trending the wrong direction for a few weeks.

[50YrRedsFan]

Totally frustrated.....I think this one's over.

[Kc61]

Oh yikes. Brice has been trending the wrong direction for a few weeks.

Disappointing.

Just doesn't seem to have enough to put hitters away.

[Big Klu]

Finnegan leaves game with an apparent injury. Brice now pitching for CIN.

DeJong single to RF
Diaz K swinging
Wacha sac bunt, 2U SAC. DeJong to 2nd
Pham RBI single to CF, DeJong scores. 4-1 STL
Grichuk 2-run HR to CF, Pham scores. 6-1 STL
Piscotty single to RF
Gyorko K swinging

CIN 1
STL 6
End 4th

[Norse1978]

I can see why the Marlins gave up Austin Brice he is not very good very hittable

[Tom Servo]

Disappointing.

Just doesn't seem to have enough to put hitters away.
I disagree. He's got stuff, just doesn't seem ready for primetime.

[Jerry Narron]

Wait until we get Bray back.
Sean Marshall will be ready any day now.

[JaxRed]

I wonder who next man up for Finnegan's spot is?

[CaiGuy]

This stinks, I didn't even demand Finn to be at all effective today, just wanted him to be healthy.

[Big Klu]

Top 5th:

Mesoraco groundout, 3-1
Kivlehan groundout, 3-1
Brice K looking

CIN 1
STL 6
Mid 5th

[Tom Servo]

I wonder who next man up for Finnegan's spot is?
I could see them pulling the trigger on Mahle.

[WVRedsFan]

This is where the run begins. Said no sane person ever. :). This is just too much for me. Cardinals getting killed by everyone until we get there and they look like a first place club.

[PutPeteIn]

You knew the Cards would be waiting on the Reds after that 4 game brooming we gave them.

This game was over before it started.

I say shut down puss n boots also.

I'm guessing he tweaked his vagina.

[Kc61]

Price seemed PO'd in the dugout.

He said the other day, on radio interview, that with Bailey and Finnegan there was no real fear of re-injury.

He must feel he's being undermined by medical people, minor league coaches, everyone who keeps sending him these pitchers to get hurt or fail.

Not saying he's a great manager, I'd move on after this season. But Price can't get a break.

[PutPeteIn]

The Curse of Charlie Hustle lives.

[Big Klu]

Bottom 5th:

Molina K swinging
Voit double to RCF
DeJong single to LF, Voit to 3rd
Diaz grounds into a 6-yessiree-3!

CIN 1
STL 6
End 5th

[PutPeteIn]

No one has mentioned this so I will: 13 of last 16 on the road and 20 of 29 on the road leading up to the break.

That's shameful scheduling by MLB who hates the Reds by the way.

[Big Klu]

Top 6th:

Peraza groundout, 6-3
Gennett flyout, 9
Votto BB
Duvall single to LF, Votto to 2nd
Suarez flyout, 9

CIN 1
STL 6
Mid 6th

[PutPeteIn]

Suarez is terrible

[WildcatFan]

I could see them pulling the trigger on Mahle.

Mahle transferred to 60-day DL: Gunshot wound

[PutPeteIn]

This team has played theee games at home in three weeks!
That is horse hockey!

[RedsBrick]

Hunter Greene's contract needs to stipulate he gets to hire his own personal pitching coach and trainer.

[Tom Servo]

That's shameful scheduling by MLB who hates the Reds by the way.


Suarez is terrible

lmao how do people give you a pass on here

[PutPeteIn]

Price +Brice =Mice with Lice

[PutPeteIn]

Brice is today's sacrificial lamb.

[WildcatFan]

New slogan idea: Greene and Beer it.

[Big Klu]

THom is having way too much fun saying, "Arismendy".

A lot like Beavis saying, "Cornholio".

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[Big Klu]

Bottom 6th:

G.Garcia PH for Wacha
G.Garcia HBP
Pham single to CF, G.Garcia to 3rd
Grichuk single to LF, G.Garcia scores, Pham to 2nd. 7-1 STL
Piscotty reaches on fielding error, E4. Pham to 3rd, Grichuk to 2nd
Gyorko single to CF, Pham scores, Grichuk to 3rd, Piscotty to 2nd. 8-1 STL

Reds double-switch:
Alcantara to 3B, batting 9th.
Peralta pitching, batting 5th.

Molina grounds into a 5-2-yessirree-3! Piscotty to 3rd, Gyorko to 2nd.
Voit groundout, 6-3

CIN 1
STL 8
End 6th

[M2]

I could see them pulling the trigger on Mahle.

Good Lord, no.

But they probably will.

[M2]

So you're saying there's still a chance for shoe-eating?

That seemed like a safe bet when it got made. Like, you don't know exactly what's going to go wrong, but you had to figure something would.

[Tom Servo]

Good Lord, no.

But they probably will.
I'm with ya, but they don't seem motivated to pick up an outside arm and none of the other AAA guys look ready.

[M2]

I just want him healthy tomorrow

That was the right and reasonable thing to want.

[Big Klu]

Top 7th:

STL double-switch:
G.Garcia remains in the game, playing 3B
Lyons now pitching, batting 4th

Schebler double to RF
Mesoraco groundout, 5-3
Kivlehan K looking
Alcantara foulout, 3F

CIN 1
STL 8
Mid 7th

[ScotlandRed]

But PutPeteIn said we were going to contend when Bailey and Finnegan were back? I'm so confused.

[M2]

I'm with ya, but they don't seem motivated to pick up an outside arm and none of the other AAA guys look ready.

And the start dates line up. Meanwhile, Mahle's thrown all of 3 IP in the last 15 days (because rain and the crowded house in Louisville). Bad words, lots of bad words.

[CaiGuy]

At least Peralta is good again.

[Big Klu]

Bottom 7th:

DeJong groundout, 4-3
Diaz K swinging
G.Garcia groundout, 4-3

CIN 1
STL 8
End 7th

[PutPeteIn]

Getting reports from the Gateway that Finnegan's arm actually fell off in the tunnel on the way to the clubhouse.
Timothy Kremcheck is currently sewing the arm back on and The Reds are hopefully Finnegan won't miss his next start.

[PutPeteIn]

It's a bird
It's a plane
It's Sac Fly Man!!!

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was scored a hit? :laugh:

[BluegrassRedleg]

THom having way too much fun saying, "Arismendy".

A lot like Beavis saying, "Cornholio".

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/youtubepoop/images/c/cb/Cornholio.png/revision/latest?cb=20140514151622

From Lake Titicaca.

[Big Klu]

Top 8th:

Peraza single to CF
Gennett FC to 1B, Peraza out 3-6
Votto double to RF, Gennett to 3rd
Duvall sac fly to CF, 8SF. Gennett scores. 8-2 STL
Hamilton PH for Peralta.
Hamilton infield single to SS, Votto to 3rd
Hamilton to 2nd on defensive indifference
Schebler flyout, 8

CIN 2
STL 8
Mid 8th

[BluegrassRedleg]

Reds saying triceps strain on Finnegan.

[Big Klu]

That was scored a hit? :laugh:

How else can you score it? Diaz didn't misplay it, Billy just beat it.

[Tom Servo]

Left triceps strain for Finnegan

[Raisor]

Triceratops

[BluegrassRedleg]

How else can you score it? Diaz didn't misplay it, Billy just beat it.

Mishandled it. E all the way.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Although I'm willing to credit Billy just for the sake of beating it into the ground.

[Big Klu]

Bottom 8th:

Lorenzen now pitching for CIN

Pham K swinging
Grichuk groundout, 5-3
Piscotty double to CF
J.Martinez PH for Lyons
J.Martinez lineout, 7L

CIN 2
STL 8
End 8th

[Big Klu]

Mishandled it. E all the way.

I didn't see a bobble, but even if there were one, do they throw Billy out with a clean fielding play? Doubtful.

[PutPeteIn]

Left triceps strain for Finnegan

Time to put him down.

[PutPeteIn]

Bank on Finnegan not pitching again this season.
What a weasel.

[Big Klu]

Top 9th:

Brebbia pitching for STL

Mesoraco K swinging
Kivlehan popout, 6
Alcantara groundout, 3U

CIN 2
STL 8
Final

[Tom Servo]

Well that went as bad as possible.

[PutPeteIn]

This team just can't get on track.
Another lost season.
I'm going to seek out the nearest weight lifter and kick him or her in the balls.

[Big Klu]

Today's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Wandy Peralta, who pitched two perfect innings of relief with 1 K. Wandy also inherited three runners with no outs and allowed none of them to score, as he induced a 5-2-3 DP and a groundout.

[Raisor]

Bank on Finnegan not pitching again this season.
What a weasel.

Why is he a weasel?

[PutPeteIn]

[QUOTE=Raisor;3661638]Why is he a weasel?[/QUOT

Because I said so! I owe you no explaination!

[BluegrassRedleg]

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[Big Klu]

Why is he a weasel?

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[Raisor]

[QUOTE=Raisor;3661638]Why is he a weasel?[/QUOTE

The same reason you are.

I don't want to be this good-looking and athletic. We all have crosses to bear.

[Big Klu]

Reds are now 2-14 in their last 16 games.

In the NFL, that record pretty much guarantees you a top 3 overall pick.

[Raisor]

[QUOTE=Raisor;3661638]Why is he a weasel?[/QUOT

Because I said so! I owe you no explaination!

Weasel!!!!

[Big Klu]

From Lake Titicaca.

Are you threatening me?! ;)

[BluegrassRedleg]

Are you threatening me?! ;)

Provide the TP or else!!!

[CrackerJack]

And the race for a 2nd top 3 draft pick is officially on (if it wasn't already)...

[Ron Madden]

Finnegan exits in 4th with left triceps strain
Injury not considered serious, but it's uncertain if lefty will make next start.

The injury occurred halfway through the third inning, and while Finnegan could tell something was wrong, he did not want to leave his first game back with another injury.
"I was sitting on the bench in the third, and I could feel it just sitting there. And I was like, 'I think it's tired, and I think it's just sore,'" Finnegan said. "Going out for the fourth inning, warming up, I knew something wasn't right. And in my head -- of course, it crosses your mind -- it's not how you want to come back, especially just after missing two months.

While Finnegan is optimistic that he will be able to make his next start, his availability is unclear until more tests take place Tuesday morning. Due to the limited number of arms in the Reds' bullpen, if Finnegan misses just one start, he will have to go on the DL.
"We need some resources in the bullpen, and you know, with our schedule, the way it lays out now, we don't have any more days off to wiggle around and try to maneuver the rotation," Price said. "To give him maybe a couple days off or something like that, we don't have that flexibility. ... We're not going to jump to any conclusions. However, usually when you have to remove a pitcher from a game due to injury, especially when it's an arm-related injury, you're not optimistic they're going to make their next start. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but I would say it's less likely, and I'll know more tomorrow."

http://m.reds.mlb.com/news/article/238906676/reds-brandon-finnegan-leaves-game-with-injury/