Saturday Night 7.8.17 Reds @ Arizona

[klw]

Hamilton 8
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Duvall 7
Gennett 5
Schebler 9
Peraza 4
Barnhart 2
Castillo 1

Tell em what time it is Flavor Flav!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

[Ron Madden]

Diamondbacks

LF: Daniel Descalso
C: Chris Herrmann
1B: Paul Goldschmidt
3B: Jake Lamb
RF: Chris Owings
2B: Brandon Drury
SS: Ketel Marte
CF: Reymond Fuentes
SP: Taijuan Walker

Tonight's game will be televised on FS1.
No FSO

[marcshoe]

Oh great. If I find where that is and watch it, am I in danger of finding out who that Lavar person is?

[marcshoe]

found it. 219 on DirecTV. I really don't do much sports other than baseball. And Australian Rugby League, but that's hardly ever on. :angry:

[WVRedsFan]

I can't ever remember a Reds game with a scheduled start time of 10:10 PM, unless it was a rain delay. Brutal.

[marcshoe]

nm

[Big Klu]

Oh great. If I find where that is and watch it, am I in danger of finding out who that Lavar person is?

He's only been around for 30 years. (40, if you back to "Roots".)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/GeordiLaForge.jpg

[Ironman92]

Might as well win

[WVRedsFan]

Jimmy Webb and Glen Campbell are just shaking their heads.I mentioned RAP to Webb one time. He didn't answer--just rolled his eyes/

[marcshoe]

He's only been around for 30 years. (40, if you back to "Roots".)

That's what I said yesterday, but apparently they were talking about someone else.

[The Operator]

Is this the Dbacks crew we're getting here on FS1?

I know that happened during the Yankees series.

[marcshoe]

I mentioned RAP to Webb one time. He didn't answer--just rolled his eyes/

I deleted my post because I watched the video and saw it could be taken the wrong way, but you know, I'm old.

[Ironman92]

Lol, that was strike 3 on Billy

[Tadasimha]

how long has Billy been using a gray bat?

[Ironman92]

Billy first time all year going from 0-2 to a walk

[The Operator]

Some Billy Ball already in the first

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Cozart!


RBI triple! 1-0 Reds!

[Tadasimha]

Nice start!

Give the rookie some runs to work with on the road!

[Ironman92]

Cozart quad feeling quadralific!

[bleedsred]

Looked pretty healthy legging out that triple....then VOTTO

[The Operator]

I definitely heard a big "heeell yea" from Billy on the ambient microphones after he scored. Love it

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Votto!!!!!

3-0!

[Ironman92]

This is fun.

[Ron Madden]

Joey Votto Goes BOOM!!!

[WVRedsFan]

Maybe we should start all games at 10:10 :)

[bleedsred]

Votto now a HR in 2 consecutive at bats

[Big Klu]

Is this the Dbacks crew we're getting here on FS1?

I know that happened during the Yankees series.

No. Preston Wilson is a Marlins announcer who also does work for Fox. He was a guest of Jim Kelch and Chris Welsh for an inning last night.

[Kc61]

When Votto was struggling early last year, he seemed so PO'd about it, I knew he would come back.

He has.

[WVRedsFan]

Idiots in the booth blaming the bad start on one call by the umpire. And you guys think Thom is bad.

[Kingspoint]

What an Offense! When is the last time we had one this good?

[Tadasimha]

https://youtu.be/o6F6u5TIUbI

[The Operator]

Duvall flies out to the warning track in right

[Ironman92]

You cannot pitch him in that portion of the outer half of the plate....might as well throw it right down the middle.

I'd pitch Joey inside all day....he's still going to be Joey but you never see Joey take a bad swing on that pitch he just drilled a HR

[UPRedsFan]

Votto now a HR in 2 consecutive at bats

Marty fawning over Votto tonight

[The Operator]

Scooter gets plunked way up and in

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. Joey Votto - 247
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Chris Sabo - 104
27. Dave Concepcion - 101

[The Operator]

No. Preston Wilson is a Marlins announcer who also does work for Fox. He was a guest of Jim Kelch and Chris Welsh for an inning last night.

I kinda like them so far.

[Ironman92]

Ouch. Scooter earned that base

[Ironman92]

Votto now a HR in 2 consecutive at bats

Ties MLB record for most HR in 2 at bats

[The Operator]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. Joey Votto - 247

I thought earlier in the year that maybe there would be an outside chance of Votto passing up Big Klu on the list.

Now, barring an injury, it looks like he's gonna go running past him. What a monster year he's having.

[Ironman92]

Idiots in the booth blaming the bad start on one call by the umpire. And you guys think Thom is bad.

Preston is a decent announcer and that point should have at least been mentioned. Walker clearly bothered for a bit....Cozart and Votto get full credit for their smashes though.

Preston is an interesting analyst on some of the MLB Network shows....he is very good when working with DeRosa and Tashadi

[Kingspoint]

Votto has a serious chance to be #1 on that All-Time list.

[The Operator]

I'm excited to see Castillo pitch tonight. I've only been able to catch bits and pieces of his starts so far.

[Tadasimha]

I thought earlier in the year that maybe there would be an outside chance of Votto passing up Big Klu on the list.

Now, barring an injury, it looks like he's gonna go running past him. What a monster year he's having.

My thoughts too. He could almost catch up to Dunn this season. Unlikely but he'll probably do it pretty early next year

[Kingspoint]

This team must also be on pace to have it's most Triples in 50 years, and it's most homeruns ever.

They are out-bigging the Big Red Machine.

If they had Gullet, Billingsley and Norman, you could print their World Series tickets.

[OnBaseMachine]

My gosh, Joey Votto is amazing.

[The Operator]

Nasty slider K's Hermann for the 2nd out

[Tom Servo]

Castillo pulled the string there.

[Big Klu]

I thought earlier in the year that maybe there would be an outside chance of Votto passing up Big Klu on the list.

Now, barring an injury, it looks like he's gonna go running past him. What a monster year he's having.

Now it looks like he has an outside chance of catching Dunn.

[The Operator]

100 mph!

[The Operator]

Beautiful 1-2-3 inning for Luis.

100 mph on back to back pitches. I know he's young and bound to have ups and downs but man, he's a guy to dream on.

[Ron Madden]

Nice start for Castillo 16 pitch inning.

[Kingspoint]

Our Starters don't get 1-2-3 1st's very often.

Seems strange.

[Tom Servo]

100 mph!
It looks so effortless too.

I saw on Fangraphs the other day one writer said "bullpen or whatever" and another writer said Castillo could be a #2 starter.

[CaiGuy]

Idiots in the booth blaming the bad start on one call by the umpire. And you guys think Thom is bad.

Yes.

I still do..

[Kingspoint]

It looks so effortless too.

I saw on Fangraphs the other day one writer said "bullpen or whatever" and another writer said Castillo could be a #2 starter.

Anyone who can go five innings and show a modicum of success gets a chance here.

[The Operator]

It looks so effortless too.

I saw on Fangraphs the other day one writer said "bullpen or whatever" and another writer said Castillo could be a #2 starter.
Obviously it's still super early but I think he's got the chance to be our next "the man".

He shows no fear out there which is refreshing.

[Ron Madden]

Billy walks again

[Tadasimha]

second walk of the game for Hamilton

[The Operator]

Back to back walks for Billy

[Ironman92]

Run Billy

[The Operator]

Billy ball again! SB #2 on the night

[Ron Madden]

Easy steal there for Billy

[The Operator]

Votto just has that "villain" look standing in the on deck circle. Love it

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Cozart grounds out

[Kingspoint]

Cozart's .949 OPS is just crazy. To make that kind of a jump without steroids is so rare. You could see it in Spring Training though. Cowboy mentioned it then, too. But, the consistent power wasn't there to see...just the timing, contact, patience and confidence.

[Wolves198921]

Nice start!

[The Operator]

Lamb with a deeep fly out to Duvall

[CaiGuy]

Nice start!

No doom and gloom?

[Tadasimha]

Nicely run down by Duvall

[The Operator]

Oh Scooter.... ugh

[OnBaseMachine]

Luis Castillo is fun to watch.

You know what's not fun? Playing guys out of position.

[Tadasimha]

No doom and gloom?

in 3...2...1...

[Ron Madden]

Gotta field that ball Scooter

[Tom Servo]

You know what's not fun? Playing guys out of position.
I know nobody wants to hear it with how good the bat has been, but he's not especially good at playing his normal position either.

[The Operator]

4 pitch walk and now we've got ourselves a jam.

[Banshee]

Castillo 4 pitch BB, need to bare down here.

[Ironman92]

My initial thought was that if Suarez is out....put Peraza at 3rd and Scooter at 2nd

[The Operator]

Marte helped Luis there by chasing what would have been the 6th ball in a row

[Ron Madden]

Time to Turn Two..

[Ironman92]

Luis Castillo is fun to watch.

You know what's not fun? Playing guys out of position.

I disagree...it was awesome watching Jon Jay pitching the other night

[WrongVerb]

Preston Wilson has some wonderful insights. I really, really like the guy as color commentator.

[The Operator]

Filthy!

K #2

[Banshee]

98 on the thumbs.. that will do.

[Tom Servo]

Nicely done Luis!

[The Operator]

An he works out of the jam.

This guy knows how to bare down in pressure situations. Those statistics they showed were awesome. Now he needs to teach Reed and Stephenson whatever it is that he apparently knows about pitching out of trouble.

[Big Klu]

Votto just has that "villain" look standing in the on deck circle. Love it

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/TeamCable/themountie_zps3dcd13a8.jpg

[CaiGuy]

I like that I don't have to here about so and so's mom, how so and so went to Milwaukie the other day, what restaurants are good in Phoenix, ect during a ballgame.

[Ron Madden]

I like the way this Kid keeps his cool.

[kaldaniels]

I tip the heck out of my cap to Dan Straily as he's done great this year, improving his BB/9 and K/9 by almost 1 each. When it's all said and done he very well may be the better pitcher...

But give me Castillo everyday of the week. Love watching him work so far and I see great potential.

[Banshee]

Not many Reds rookie SP'ers that ever showed up throwing 98-100 w/ such EZ gas and a good changeup...in fact, I can't remember the last one. Little help..?

[marcshoe]

Castillo could be something special by 2019.

[The Operator]

Whew this ump has a high zone

[Tom Servo]

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/TeamCable/themountie_zps3dcd13a8.jpg
He's handsome. He's brave. He's strong.

[The Operator]

Not many Reds rookie SP'ers that ever showed up throwing 98-100 w/ such EZ gas and a good changeup...in fact, I can't remember the last one. Little help..?
Chapman could have been if Ryan Madson hadn't blown his elbow out in 2012 forcing us to need a closer.

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http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/TeamCable/themountie_zps3dcd13a8.jpg
Lol awesome

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Man Duvall had just missed two oppo home runs tonight by a combined 20 or 30 feet.

[Tom Servo]

Thought Duvall might have had it off the bat.

[The Operator]

Lots of warning track power tonight.

[OnBaseMachine]

When Castillo locates that 97-100 mph heat under the hands he's unhittable.

[Ironman92]

Lots of warning track power tonight.

Part of the reason for their road struggles IMO. Few parks fly like GABP

[OnBaseMachine]

Votto's OBP now up to .430

[Big Klu]

I know nobody wants to hear it with how good the bat has been, but he's not especially good at playing his normal position either.

I'm not looking at any defensive metrics (I wouldn't understand them, anyway), but just by watching him (eyeball test) it seems to me that Scooter is average defensively at 2B, it's just that we are used to seeing above-average defense at 2B for a lot of years.

[The Operator]

Part of the reason for their road struggles IMO. Few parks fly like GABP

That's definitely gotta be part of it. Seems like when they go on the rod a lot of balls that are 10 rows deep at home wind up going for outs.

It's still not anywhere near as big of a problem as the starting rotation, but I've noticed the same thing.

[kaldaniels]

Lots of warning track power tonight.

Has Chase Field turned the humidor on yet?

[Banshee]

Filthy slider by Castillo, loving it.

[The Operator]

K #3 to start the third.

I love Preston Wilson's observation about Luis' delivery being similar to Pedro. I never noticed it before but he's absolutely right.

[The Operator]

99 mph waaay up and in to Descalso.

That'll make him think.

[kaldaniels]

That's 99 mph up and in Mr Descalso. Now have a seat. :p

[Banshee]

Filthy changeup after buzzing the tower at 99, lol!

[The Operator]

Then he K's him with the change. Man that's awesome.

K #4

[Ron Madden]

That's definitely gotta be part of it. Seems like when they go on the rod a lot of balls that are 10 rows deep at home wind up going for outs.

It's still not anywhere near as big of a problem as the starting rotation, but I've noticed the same thing.

It's because this lineup has power.

Their routine fly outs just happen to reach the warning track sometimes.

JMHO

[The Operator]

A second beautiful 1-2-3 inning. 4 K's thru 3 IP

[Ironman92]

Very very happy we got to watch Arroyo get about 10 starts this year while Castilla was in the minors

[membengal]

Castillo is awfully fun to watch.

[kaldaniels]

Very very happy we got to watch Arroyo get about 10 starts this year while Castilla was in the minors

I wish it hadn't been Arroyo but I didnt mind starting Castillo in the minors this year. 10 starts is nothing in the big picture.

[Tom Servo]

Very very happy we got to watch Arroyo get about 10 starts this year while Castilla was in the minors
Castillo had only started 3 games above A+ before this season began.

[StRedlegs900]

Very very happy we got to watch Arroyo get about 10 starts this year while Castilla was in the minors

And very, very happy we'll control Castillo for an extra year as a result.

[Banshee]

Tucker double oppo. Nice.

[kaldaniels]

Castillo is awfully fun to watch.

Quickly going to be a must watch guy for me. Don't get me wrong I always tune in and follow...but games often end up in the background lately...sorry.

[Tom Servo]

Jeez the sound of that Barnhart double hitting the fence made me jump lol

[CaiGuy]

Red's need a single for the team cycle. : )

[BluegrassRedleg]

All of Votto's numbers ahead of his 2010 MVP year and getting close to his 2012 numbers. Amazing tear he's been on for about a full calendar year.

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Another great AB, Billy. Love that swing approach.

[Banshee]

IF things continue like they are, what inning do guys stop talking to the rook? now? BIlly rbi single, raising that OBP, 4-0 redlegs!

[Tadasimha]

Great AB, Billy! RBI single

[Tom Servo]

Billy on fire

[Kc61]

Havoc.

[50YrRedsFan]

How I wish Billy would do that more often.

[Tadasimha]

Now three steals!

[The Operator]

First hit given up by Castillo.

[Ironman92]

Preston likes the Reds players

[Tadasimha]

They can talk to Castillo now

[The Operator]

Lamb flies out for the first out.

[Banshee]

Quality changeup to induce the weak flyball, nice!

[The Operator]

Deep fly ball for out #2

[Ironman92]

The announcer with Preston is a D- on ball in the air to the OF.....he thinks everything has a chance for a HR

Like the football radio guy getting all wound up and excited then let's everyone know it was a 4 yard gain

[Banshee]

Kid needs that sharp slider, now.

Edit: or the changeup away will work as well, good job.

[The Operator]

Thru 4 IP: 1 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 4 K

[Tom Servo]

Long inning for Luis but he leaves unscathed.

[Tadasimha]

nice job, kid!

Give him a nice long inning to rest

[Ron Madden]

Reds 4
Snakes 0

After 4 innings.

[The Operator]

Man Arizona's OF grass looks awful.

[kaldaniels]

Man Arizona's OF grass looks awful.

What was it...117 degrees there today? Can't imagine that helps, dome or not.

[The Operator]

What was it...117 degrees there today? Can't imagine that helps, dome or not.

True... the conditions aren't too friendly for them.

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Scooter!!! Homer #15!!!

5-0

[Banshee]

Scoot Scoot Scoot again, HR!

[Powel Crosley]

Chris Welsh said yesterday that they got a bad batch of sod.


Scooter!

[Tadasimha]

Boom Scootin Boogie

[membengal]

That'll work.

[Ron Madden]

Scooter smacks #15

[Ironman92]

Sorry, not sorry....I effing love Scooter

[kaldaniels]

Speaking of Scooter, can I just say I'm extremely annoyed his 4 HR game was in the camo uniform. Ugly memory.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Get on your bad motor Scooter and ride!

[membengal]

I can't believe the reds used to let Phillips wear what would one day be Scooter's number...

[Big Klu]

http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0150/deluxe/ch150d_86b.jpg

[Ironman92]

Speaking of Scooter, can I just say I'm extremely annoyed his 4 HR game was in the camo uniform. Ugly memory.

No, Jimmy cracked corn.... It was awesome

[CaiGuy]

Ummm...HOW is he doing this??

[kaldaniels]

I can't believe the reds used to let Phillips wear what would one day be Scooter's number...

It's a slap in the face to Scooter.

[CaiGuy]

Sorry, not sorry....I effing love Scooter

I get kinda down on him because I know he can't this up...but yeah, he's definitely likable. I like him too.

[The Operator]

K #5 for out #1

[Ron Madden]

I wonder how many times the Reds have ever had 4 players with 15 or more HR's before the All-Star Game?

[The Operator]

Another easy inning for Luis

[Ironman92]

I get kinda down on him because I know he can't this up...but yeah, he's definitely likable. I like him too.

Of course he can't keep this up....he's hardly a 1.175 OPS guy, but I sure as heck have enjoyed his past 23 starts

[WVRedsFan]

Yes.

I still do..My problem is the comments--he kept bringing it up time after time--was it belittles the accomplishments of the (our) team.

[Ironman92]

I wonder how many times the Reds have ever had 4 players with 15 or more HR's before the All-Star Game?

I'll go with threeve

[Ron Madden]

Reds 5
Snakes 0

After 5 innings

82 pitches for The Kid...

[CaiGuy]

My problem is the comments--he kept bringing it up time after time--was it belittles the accomplishments of the (our) team.

I don't disagree, I am just enjoying the fact that the broadcast is on topic (baseball).

[Banshee]

Martinez of the Cards and Castillo, as mentioned by all the talking heads, seems pretty apt, both seem to just fling it effortlessly at 98+, Castillo 6'2" 190, Martinez 6' 190. The Pedro comp we can only hope for.

[WVRedsFan]

I'll go with threeveIs that related to covfefe?

[CaiGuy]

Why does he twirl the bat? I don't get it.

[kaldaniels]

What a coincidence - shortly after shoehorning a tale about ash/maple bats into the broadcast, an ash and maple bat appear in the booth for a visual display.

[CaiGuy]

I am just gonna say it: I want to like Peraza, but I just don't at this point. He can be decent, but so little upside there.

[kaldaniels]

I am just gonna say it: I want to like Peraza, but I just don't at this point. He can be decent, but so little upside there.

It makes me sad but I think he was just a big tease last season.

[Tom Servo]

I am just gonna say it: I want to like Peraza, but I just don't at this point. He can be decent, but so little upside there.
The upside is that he could hit .300 with good defense and speed. It's not happening right now but he's 23.

[Kingspoint]

The upside is that he could hit .300 with good defense and speed. It's not happening right now but he's 23.

With a .302 OBP and .650 OPS.

[CaiGuy]

The upside is that he could hit .300 with good defense and speed. It's not happening right now but he's 23.

...with little power and no plate discipline.

I don't like to be down on any Red's players, but even best case scenario for Peraza isn't really exciting. Maybe at SS...

Still love the Frazier trade though. Glad the Red's have the foresight to keep Peraza in the lineup despite Scooter turning into Babe Ruth. Might as well see what they got.

[The Operator]

Descalso grounds out for out #1

[kaldaniels]

27 games in a row by a team with the starter not going 6+ with no ER isn't that crazy a stretch is it?

It's not good but not crazy is it?

[The Operator]

27 games in a row by a team with the starter not going 6+ with no ER isn't that crazy a stretch is it?

It's not good but not crazy is it?
Was thinking the same thing. It's not like they haven't had someone go 6, just not 6 shutout innings. Not great though.

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Another quick out

[Tom Servo]

...with little power and no plate discipline.
He's increasing his HR total each year. He increased his walk rate in AAA last year, obviously that hasn't translated this year. I think he needs some more seasoning.

Again, he's 23. Gennett is obviously the better hitter at this point, but Peraza being a whipping boy is pretty undeserved.

[Banshee]

Sit. Down. Goldy.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Luis F. Castillo wants you to reach in that bag and pull out his wallet.

[CaiGuy]

...Castillo on the other hand. Dude's legit.

[Ron Madden]

GOOD Quick Inning for Castillo

[Tom Servo]

Luis!

[Kingspoint]

Was thinking the same thing. It's not like they haven't had someone go 6, just not 6 shutout innings. Not great though.

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Another quick out

Just seeing that 1-2-3 first was rare.

[The Operator]

Yowza!

K #6 makes it 6 shutout innings. He's close to 100 pitches, I'd love to see him in the 7th but I'd be tempted to go ahead and go to the bullpen. He's young and he's had a great game. A confidence builder.

[kaldaniels]

I'd pull him up 5-0 and let him smile at his sparkling line.

[Norse1978]

27 games in a row by a team with the starter not going 6+ with no ER isn't that crazy a stretch is it?

It's not good but not crazy is it?
Was this 27 games in a row the reds until tonight?

[CaiGuy]

^This.

[The Operator]

Looks like he'll get the chance to start the 7th. Not the end of the world but I'd prefer to get him out of there after a great 6 innings and less than 100 pitches.

He'll probably be on a short leash I'd imagine. Or at least I'd hope.

[kaldaniels]

He's increasing his HR total each year. He increased his walk rate in AAA last year, obviously that has translated this year. I think he needs some more seasoning.

Again, he's 23. Gennett is obviously the better hitter at this point, but Peraza being a whipping boy is pretty undeserved.

I'm not going to go out of my way to whip him but the time has passed where I'd bend over backwards to defend him or squint to give me hope.

[OnBaseMachine]

Castillo just struck one of the best - most disciplined - hitters in baseball out on a changeup in the dirt. Stud. He's at 96 pitches and has thrown 105 pitches in each of his last two starts. I'd pull him now.

[Ironman92]

He's increasing his HR total each year. He increased his walk rate in AAA last year, obviously that has translated this year. I think he needs some more seasoning.

Again, he's 23. Gennett is obviously the better hitter at this point, but Peraza being a whipping boy is pretty undeserved.

I have nothing against Peraza at all....kid is still very young....but I want Scooter in the lineup until he stops mocking Votto's production. I don't much care who has to sit either, but if I had to choose would be Jose

[Tom Servo]

I'm not going to go out of my way to whip him but the time has passed where I'd bend over backwards to defend him or squint to give me hope.
Fair enough. I'm willing to accept he may not be the guy, but I still think he's taking too much flack.

[kaldaniels]

Castillo just struck one of the best - most disciplined - hitters in baseball out on a changeup in the dirt. Stud. He's at 96 pitches and has thrown 105 pitches in each of his last two starts. I'd pull him now.

That was either a filthy filthy pitch or Goldy was guessing all the way.

[CaiGuy]

He's increasing his HR total each year. He increased his walk rate in AAA last year, obviously that hasn't translated this year. I think he needs some more seasoning.

Again, he's 23. Gennett is obviously the better hitter at this point, but Peraza being a whipping boy is pretty undeserved.

Sorry, know he's your boy. Not a hater, just not a fan of his game at this point.

He'll be decent I think though. Hope they keep running him out there in a rebuilding year and he starts hitting.

[Tom Servo]

I didn't realize Luis has only given up the one hit, wow.

[CaiGuy]

Really don't like leaving him in there.

[The Operator]

Infield hit to start the 7th.

I hope they've got somebody ready to come in if he doesn't get out of this quick.

[kaldaniels]

I like the "velocity beats the shift" commentary.

[The Operator]

Pitch 100 is 98 mph

[The Operator]

Filthy changeup for K #7

1 out

[JaxRed]

I hope this is his last batter

[Banshee]

Leaving him in was wrong on so many levels. Nothing to be gained for the kid by doing this. Price loves whipping some and coddling others, normally backwards from logic imho.

[kaldaniels]

Can't remember the last time an announcer has said "he's had a dickens of a time...."

[CaiGuy]

Why is Price a dumby and a loser? Take. him. out.

[Ironman92]

Scooter in 204 AB this year has as many HR as Brandon Phillips did his last 710 at bats with the Reds

[Mutaman]

Leaving him in was wrong on so many levels. Nothing to be gained for the kid by doing this. Price loves whipping some and coddling others, normally backwards from logic imho.

Bingo. Bryan's biggest problem is his lack of composure. His second biggest is his lack of common sense.

[The Operator]

Filthy!

K #8

[Cedric]

I hope this is his last batter

Why are MLB managers so often clueless? I can't understand what the guy is thinking here.

[Big Klu]

Let it ride.

[Kc61]

I would have taken out Castillo. But keep in mind that we're headed to the ASB.

Castillo probably won't pitch again for at least a week.

[kaldaniels]

Castillo have any injury history? Maybe he's just a horse.

[The Operator]

Okay NOW get him out of there

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Wandy Peralta coming in

[kaldaniels]

Nice smile Luis.

[Cedric]

What was the point of that? I had such high hopes for this guy and people said the grass isn't always greener.. Poor Dusty.

[BluegrassRedleg]

He was trying to get him to the end of the inning. Nothing wrong with that. Wasn't laboring. But that last hit means it's time.

I'm the biggest anti-Price guy around, but I have no problem with that handling. It's textbook.

[Tom Servo]

The Pirates let Jameson Taillon go past 100 pitches only twice last year in his 18 starts, and those were 101 and 102 pitch counts.

[JaxRed]

Thank Goodness, there's Price. I was worried he had a stroke and was incapacitated in the dugout.

[Mutaman]

I would have taken out Castillo. But keep in mind that we're headed to the ASB.

Castillo probably won't pitch again for at least a week.

You're missing the big picture.

[Ironman92]

Damn. I wouldn't be mad if the relief pitcher actually got the first batter out.

[CaiGuy]

What was the point of that? I had such high hopes for this guy and people said the grass isn't always greener.. Poor Dusty.
These aren't the only 2 choices...

But yeah, I liked Dusty better.

[OnBaseMachine]

With four off days coming up, I really didn't understand the point in sending Castillo back out there for another inning.

[CaiGuy]

He was trying to get him to the end of the inning. Nothing wrong with that. Wasn't laboring. But that last hit means it's time.

I'm the biggest anti-Price guy around, but I have no problem with that handling. It's textbook.

He shouldn't have went back out there to start that inning.

[Banshee]

The reason(s) to take him out has NOTHING to do w/ whether or not the rest of his outing is successful. It's about what's been mentioned: great outing, nothing bad can happen to health, psyche, team from him if yanked after an awesomely pitched game. As has been mentioned: he's not pitched hardly at all above A+ ball. His age/future/potential, in a dismal somewhat throwaway rebuilding year. Again, if he's 27, I'd get it if Price is pushing him to become a 9 inning guy, a playoff guy. Now's not that time. Price is not the answer despite the questions that the reds have imo.

[kaldaniels]

The Pirates let Jameson Taillon go past 100 pitches only twice last year in his 18 starts, and those were 101 and 102 pitch counts.

Yeah and he got cancer.

[The Operator]

Peralta bringing the HEAT

[Tom Servo]

I thought I liked AJ Pollock but now that I've found out he uses that stupid Dropkick Murphys song as his walkup music I'm not so sure.

[Ironman92]

Throw an off speed down

[Kc61]

You're missing the big picture.

What picture.

We all know that Price believes you train starters by pitching them deep in games.

He believes a 5 2/3 inning pitcher remains a 5 2/3 inning pitcher.

In this case, the Reds have four off days coming up. My guess is that Castillo pitches again in 8 days. Lot of rest.

He threw 113 pitches. There is no rule that you stop at 100.

Personally I would have removed him sooner. After the first baserunner that inning. But that's the picture.

[Ironman92]

Alright...add on

[The Operator]

3 outs!

Castillo's final line: 6.2 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 0 R, 8 K

[OnBaseMachine]

Nice job by Wandy!

[Big Klu]

The Pirates let Jameson Taillon go past 100 pitches only twice last year in his 18 starts, and those were 101 and 102 pitch counts.

What does that have to do with anything?

[Ron Madden]

Reds 5
Snakes 0

After 7 innings.

Helluva job by Louis Castillo!!!

[durl]

On that replay of the fly-out, why did the guy in the stands lift his shirt over his gut? That was bizarre.

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[Tom Servo]

What does that have to do with anything?
It stands out in contrast to Bryan Price having kids throwing 110 pitches in their first few big league starts.

[BluegrassRedleg]

He shouldn't have went back out there to start that inning.

And you base that on ____________ .

[JaxRed]

On that replay of the fly-out, why did the guy in the stands lift his shirt over his gut? That was bizarre.

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I saw that too....

[Big Klu]

On that replay of the fly-out, why did the guy in the stands lift his shirt over his gut? That was bizarre.

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Why? Alcohol, probably.

[RiverRat13]

It stands out in contrast to Bryan Price having kids throwing 110 pitches in their first few big league starts.

If he was going to get his normal four days rest I could see the outcry. But as Kc has pointed out, he's not pitching again for eight days. And he wasn't exactly laboring the last few batters. I don't see a problem with letting him get to 113 under those circumstances.

[kaldaniels]

That would have been an awesome HR if fair.

[Big Klu]

It stands out in contrast to Bryan Price having kids throwing 110 pitches in their first few big league starts.

Honestly, why is 100 the number? If we are really concerned with making sure a pitcher doesn't overexert himself, why not 90? Or 75?

[CaiGuy]

And you base that on ____________ .

No real science. I just don't see any reason why you are stretching a guy so far on his 4th MLB start.

And I am tired of entire rotations on the DL.

[OnBaseMachine]

Luis Castillo has struck out 30.6% of the MLB hitters he's faced through four major league starts. That's elite.

[BluegrassRedleg]

It stands out in contrast to Bryan Price having kids throwing 110 pitches in their first few big league starts.

He was throwing around 100 on a consistent basis in AA. It's July. 110 is not a lot. Breathe. ;)

[CaiGuy]

Honestly, why is 100 the number? If we are really concerned with making sure a pitcher doesn't overexert himself, why not 90? Or 75?

It's definitely arbitrary.

But with 6 nice innings and a fully stocked pen, just pull him on a positive note.

[Tom Servo]

If he was going to get his normal four days rest I could see the outcry. But as Kc has pointed out, he's not pitching again for eight days. And he wasn't exactly laboring the last few batters. I don't see a problem with letting him get to 113 under those circumstances.
This isn't a one off. He was doing it to Lorezen back in April 2015, and Finnegan in April 2016. I am firm in the belief that you treat these guys under 25, who are just getting their feet wet in the big leagues, with kids gloves. Price treats them like they're Scott Feldman.

[CaiGuy]

But it really probably doesn't matter at this point.

[BluegrassRedleg]

No real science. I just don't see any reason why you are stretching a guy so far on his 4th MLB start.

And I am tired of entire rotations on the DL.

Completely agree on that last part. But we've had guys go on the DL in the 1st innng. We've had guys go on the DL after 30 pitches. There's no rhyme or reason to it. The number of pitches doesn't factor at 110.

[Ironman92]

Reds suck but are winning 5-0 at a playoff team and the Reds starting pitcher was incredible.

Woo Hoo Go Reds!!!

[The Operator]

Preston Wilson taking up for BP on the number cause

[Ironman92]

No real science. I just don't see any reason why you are stretching a guy so far on his 4th MLB start.

And I am tired of entire rotations on the DL.

The rotation guys on the DL can't get to 100 pitches

[Mutaman]

He was throwing around 100 on a consistent basis in AA. It's July. 110 is not a lot. Breathe. ;)

Cueto - 110 is not a lot.

24 yr old - 110 is too much. Its all relative.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The rotation guys on the DL can't get to 100 pitches

Exactly.