7/17/2017 Reds vs Nats DAY Game

[cumberlandreds]

Reds try to salvage a game with the Nats today at 12:30 pm. This is the Free Game of the Day on MLBTV. No FSO TV today. Only available through the Nats and MASN. So you will get the honor of hearing Bob Carpenter and Ray Knight call the game. My advice is turn the volume down.


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[ScotlandRed]

So Schebler is playing CF yet Winker still sits after a hit and 3 walks yesterday. It really is tragic.

[CaiGuy]

Must be team policy to put an almost automatic out at the top of the order.

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Had to know that Scooter would get the start against Strasbourg today (who he as been owning), but that outfield D is scary.

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Reds try to salvage a game with the Nats today at 12:30 pm. This is the Free Game of the Day on MLBTV. No FSO TV today. Only available through the Nats and MASN. So you will get the honor of hearing Bob Carpenter and Ray Knight call the game. My advice is turn the volume down.


Yet I will still be blacked out...bummer.

[WrongVerb]

Brian Price the student trying to teach Dusty "Wilmer Difo batting 2nd" Baker the master?

[klw]

Should sit Peraza, put Scooter at 2nd and Winker in RF.

[cumberlandreds]

Nats lineup.


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[DocRed]

Sit the hot hitting Hamilton and bat the .276 OBP first....makes sense. Oh and make the OF defense much worse to boot.

[CaiGuy]

Sit the hot hitting Hamilton and bat the .276 OBP first....makes sense. Oh and make the OF defense much worse to boot.

Bill has to sit sometime, don't have a problem with that on my end.

But the configuration is definitely odd. Just play Winker and Scooter, in position, and sit Peraza against the tough righty.

[DocRed]

So Schebler is playing CF yet Winker still sits after a hit and 3 walks yesterday. It really is tragic.

Getting 3 walks in a game is unaccetable behavior apparently. Clearly he was trying to show up "other" teammates.

[DocRed]

Bill has to sit sometime, don't have a problem with that on my end.

But the configuration is definitely odd. Just play Winker and Scooter, in position, and sit Peraza against the tough righty.


Oh I don't either, but refusing to reward productively drives me nuts. I agree...

[klw]

Getting 3 walks in a game is unaccetable behavior apparently. Clearly he was trying to show up "other" teammates.

Maybe the Reds don't pay Winker to walk.

[cumberlandreds]

Off to flying start. Nats have runners at the corners with no one out.

[Chip R]

Brian Price the student trying to teach Dusty "Wilmer Difo batting 2nd" Baker the master?

"Anything you can do, I can do better."

[cumberlandreds]

Harper a three run homer. 3-0 Nats. This one is off to a good start isn't it? The Cowboy said Feldman is barely hitting 88 on the radar. This is going to be a long day.

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Zimmerman homers and the Nats are taking a second BP today.

[cumberlandreds]

Zimmerman goes into first place in HR's for the Nats/Expos franchise. Big Klu can update his list. :)

[DocRed]

I'm beginning to think we won't see a winning team in Cincy until the next decade.

[cumberlandreds]

I'm beginning to think we won't see a winning team in Cincy until the next decade.

Its only three years until the next decade. You are probably right.

[Big Klu]

Zimmerman goes into first place in HR's for the Nats/Expos franchise. Big Klu can update his list. :)

No, I won't do that update until after the season, at the earliest. (Maybe not until next All-Star Break.)

[cumberlandreds]

Nobody warming up for the Reds as the first six Nats reach base. It's old take one for the team day for Feldman.

[50YrRedsFan]

I'm beginning to think we won't see a winning team in Cincy until the next decade.

After watching this series, that's pretty optimistic.

[50YrRedsFan]

I don't think it's Feldman's day.

[cumberlandreds]

Nats score a run from 2nd base on a fly out to Gennett. Reds are finding new ways to allow runs as we speak.

[Tom Servo]

lol

[Big Klu]

Nobody warming up for the Reds as the first six Nats reach base. It's old take one for the team day for Feldman.

Bob Carpenter said that Wojo is warming up.

[cumberlandreds]

Bob Carpenter said that Wojo is warming up.

Yep just got him up.

[cumberlandreds]

Nats bat around in the first and score five. Reds hitting had better put up 20 today if they want to have a chance.

[50YrRedsFan]

What is the point of keeping Stuart Turner on the roster if Price won't play him. Barnhart must be exhausted catching every inning. It's time for Price to go.

[muethibp]

What is the point of keeping Stuart Turner on the roster if Price won't play him. Barnhart must be exhausted catching every inning. It's time for Price to go.

Yes, this is the pressing issue around the franchise and what is preventing us from success.

[klw]

What is the point of keeping Stuart Turner on the roster if Price won't play him. Barnhart must be exhausted catching every inning. It's time for Price to go.

Mesoraco starts his rehab assignment tonight @ Louisville.

[Tom Servo]

Mark Sheldon‏
@m_sheldon

After 9 came to the plate in top 1, Feldman (down 5-0) went straight to the tunnel instead of dugout. Price and trainer followed. #reds

[cumberlandreds]

Mesoraco starts his rehab assignment tonight @ Louisville.

That means the Reds will have three catchers in just a few days. Whooopeee!

[mrherd05]

Great to see how Price had this team ready to come back to play after the break.

[cumberlandreds]

Mark Sheldon‏
@m_sheldon

After 9 came to the plate in top 1, Feldman (down 5-0) went straight to the tunnel instead of dugout. Price and trainer followed. #reds

There went our best pitcher straight to the DL most likely.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds are done in the 1st. 5-0 Nats. Wojo will be coming in to pitch in the 2nd.

[klw]

Votto hitless since the all-star break. 0-8

[Kc61]

That means the Reds will have three catchers in just a few days. Whooopeee!

The Reds will have three catchers because they want to avoid losing Turner. He is a Rule five player and they cannot send him down without offering him back.

They wouldn't cut loose a healthy Barnhart or Mesoraco.

So they will have three catchers.

[Tom Servo]

Votto hitless since the all-star break. 0-8
DFA

[PutPeteIn]

Feldman suffering from a case of butt hurt

[westofyou]

Great to see how Price had this team ready to come back to play after the break.

This is a tire fire, sit back and watch it burn.

[RedTeamGo!]

Feldman suffering from a case of butt hurt

Or you know, he's actually hurt

[cumberlandreds]

The Reds will have three catchers because they want to avoid losing Turner. He is a Rule five player and they cannot send him down without offering him back.

They wouldn't cut loose a healthy Barnhart or Mesoraco.

So they will have three catchers.

Unless they really feel Turner is the 2nd coming of Johnny Bench then its a waste to keep him. Its basically a roster spot that is never used right now.

[mrherd05]

This is pathetic. The entire organization is pathetic.

[PutPeteIn]

It's the Curse o the Donkey

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This is pathetic. The entire organization is pathetic.

Keep in mind who we are playing.

[klw]

DFA

#notelite

[BCubb2003]

Still within Nats bullpen range.

[cumberlandreds]

Still within Nats bullpen range.

Have Doolittle and Madsen joined the Nats yet? If they have then they may not be in range.

[Kc61]

Unless they really feel Turner is the 2nd coming of Johnny Bench then its a waste to keep him. Its basically a roster spot that is never used right now.

Who cares about the roster spot? What possible difference could Turner's roster spot make?

The team has a 6.04 starting ERA coming into today, and now it's even higher with a bad start today.

How is anybody going to fix that critical pitching problem with the 25th roster spot?

Reds are quite properly protecting Turner, a young catcher with hitting potential, rather than losing him.

[cumberlandreds]

Suarez Homers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PutPeteIn]

Feldman broke his coccyx.

[cumberlandreds]

Who cares about the roster spot? What possible difference could Turner's roster spot make?

The team has a 6.04 starting ERA coming into today, and now it's even higher.

Who is going to fix that problem with the 25th roster spot?

Reds are quite properly protecting Turner, a young catcher with hitting potential, rather than losing him.

I like to see the Reds be competitive. So I care about that roster spot. Basically it just looks bad but apparently they don't care so why should I?

[JaxRed]

Wojo has been looking better recently.

[Tom Servo]

Wojo has been looking better recently.
Knock on wood, but I thought he looked fine in his first go-around. He just got the plug pulled on him because the best record in baseball Dodgers kicked him around in two straight starts.

[PutPeteIn]

WOJO!!!

[Kc61]

I like to see the Reds be competitive. So I care about that roster spot. Basically it just looks bad but apparently they don't care so why should I?

Not sure what it means that three catchers "looks bad." The Reds have a reason for it, makes sense under the circumstances. Next year they will be free to keep Turner in the minors.

And Turner's roster spot is not why the Reds are non-competitive. They are non-competitive because they have no pitching.

[klw]

4 straight infield popouts by the Nats. Is that an MLB record? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Norse1978]

Who cares about the roster spot? What possible difference could Turner's roster spot make?

The team has a 6.04 starting ERA coming into today, and now it's even higher with a bad start today.

How is anybody going to fix that critical pitching problem with the 25th roster spot?

Reds are quite properly protecting Turner, a young catcher with hitting potential, rather than losing him.
I understood keeping Turner I just don't understand never letting him every start it's not like Barnhart is a must start.
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[RedTeamGo!]

Keeping Stuart Turner as the 25th man is preventing the Reds from signing Clayton Kershaw.

[cumberlandreds]

Not sure what it means that three catchers "looks bad." The Reds have a reason for it, makes sense under the circumstances. Next year they will be free to keep Turner in the minors.

And Turner's roster spot is not why the Reds are non-competitive. They are non-competitive because they have no pitching.

If he's going to be on the team play him every once in a while. Today would have been the perfect opportunity. It's obvious they know he's not a MLB player and have decided to let him ride the bench ala Bill Plummer of the 68 Cubs. I'm sure everyone else on the team love being short handed and know Reds management really doesn't care if they are winning or not.

[wvreds]

Not till tomorrow thankfully

[Norse1978]

The front office has put such a great roster together :)

[Tom Servo]

If he's going to be on the team play him every once in a while. Today would have been the perfect opportunity. It's obvious they know he's not a MLB player and have decided to let him ride the bench ala Bill Plummer of the 68 Cubs. I'm sure everyone else on the team love being short handed and know Reds management really doesn't care if they are winning or not.
So "it's obvious they know he's not a MLB player" and yet you're mad that he's not playing.

[NebraskaRed]

what the hell was that

[cumberlandreds]

So "it's obvious they know he's not a MLB player" and yet you're mad that he's not playing.

Why is he on the team if he never plays?

[BluegrassRedleg]

"We can't let that happen in the playoffs." - PPI


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[Tom Servo]

Why is he on the team if he never plays?
So they can keep him moving forward. I actually do want to see him play, but not because I'm upset about his roster spot or whatever.

[NebraskaRed]

what the hell was that

official motto of the 2017 Cincinnati Reds

[cumberlandreds]

So they can keep him moving forward. I actually do want to see him play, but not because I'm upset about his roster spot or whatever.

It doesn't matter in the end. This is a terrible team and franchise that is a looooooong way from contending. Not playing Turner for whatever reason doesn't matter. It's just not a good look.

[BCubb2003]

So Schebler was in the way of the throw, no one was at second anyway, and Duvall didn't throw it to anyone.

[wvreds]

Cowboy on the radio "and folks it looks like the Reds have no idea what they are doing, and you can hear it from the faithful at GABP."

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cowboy on the radio "and folks it looks like the Reds have no idea what they are doing, and you can hear it from the faithful at GABP."

You could hear the groan on TV.


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[cumberlandreds]

5-1 Nats after four.

[Raisor]

Why is he on the team if he never plays?

Because he's a Rule 5 pick up and it's not about 2017.

[KeefeCato]

Since Doolittle and Madson won't be joining Nats till tomorrow in LA. We are still within Nats bullpen range.:help:

[Raisor]

It doesn't matter in the end. This is a terrible team and franchise that is a looooooong way from contending. Not playing Turner for whatever reason doesn't matter. It's just not a good look.

I feel bad for the little kid that came to the park today hoping that Turner was going to start today

[Kc61]

It doesn't matter in the end. This is a terrible team and franchise that is a looooooong way from contending. Not playing Turner for whatever reason doesn't matter. It's just not a good look.

I just don't get the "look" thing, sorry. Benches have different combinations, depending on the team.

[Big Klu]

I feel bad for the little kid that came to the park today hoping that Turner was going to start today

Stuart Turner has a little brother?

[cumberlandreds]

I feel bad for the little kid that came to the park today hoping that Turner was going to start today

I feel bad for the kid that came to the ballpark expecting a Reds win no matter if Turner played or not.

[BluegrassRedleg]

From Luckhaupt: Since his last BB on 5/21, Jose Peraza has seen 11 3-ball counts (out of 180 PA). He's swung at 18 of the 21 pitches he's seen with 3 balls.


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[cumberlandreds]

Brian Goodwin homers for the Nats. First run in five innings for Wojo.

[westofyou]

4 straight infield popouts by the Nats. Is that an MLB record? Inquiring minds want to know!

7 in game, most by a MLB pitcher this season

[Norse1978]

Great job Wojo! Let him start Saturday

[cumberlandreds]

Wojo gives the Reds five good innings. He stablized the game and gave the Reds a small chance in this game. Wojo may have found his niche as a long to middle man out the bullpen. He could make a nice career doing that.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds have had more than 1 hit in only 1 inning in this series

[cumberlandreds]

6-1 Nats after six.

[Big Klu]

Harper beat the throw, but his hand came off the bag and Cozart held the tag.

[BCubb2003]

Harper beat the throw, but his hand came off the bag and Cozart held the tag.

Yep. They showed file footage inside the New York site. First time I'd seen that.

[cumberlandreds]

Nats still lead 6-1 after 7. Nats bullpen will be coming in for the 8th. This may be the Reds chance since Madsen and Doolittle haven't joined them yet.

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds have had more than 1 hit in only 1 inning in this series

incredible

[Tom Servo]

PH appearance for Winker and he walks again.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm beginning to think we won't see a winning team in Cincy until the next decade.

It's only been since 2013 that they have not had a winning season and the middle of 2015 and middle of 2016 that they started going into a full rebuild mode. Give me a break wit this over the top analysis after a bad series against the 2nd best team in NL and maybe all of baseball.

[Norse1978]

And Jose the out machine does his normal

[Johnny5]

I was missing baseball during the Allstar Break, after the last 4 vs. the Nats, not so much anymore...

[50YrRedsFan]

It's only been since 2013 that they have not had a winning season and the middle of 2015 and middle of 2016 that they started going into a full rebuild mode. Give me a break wit this over the top analysis after a bad series against the 2nd best team in NL and maybe all of baseball.

With what we've seen of the pitching available in the Reds organization this year, do you realistically expect the Reds to develop a contending pitching staff in the next few years?

[Tom Servo]

And Dusty's crew easily dispatches of the Reds in a 4 game sweep.

[wvreds]

Season is reminding me of 2007 when Narron was eventually axed in July after a game against the Cardinals...

[50YrRedsFan]

Season is reminding me of 2007 when Narron was eventually axed in July after a game against the Cardinals...

I can't remember the last time the Reds were beat down so badly than in this series.

[Big Klu]

Today's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Asher Wojciechowski, who pitched 5 innings of relief allowing only 1 run on 2 hits with 4 K's.

[Tony Cloninger]

With what we've seen of the pitching available in the Reds organization this year, do you realistically expect the Reds to develop a contending pitching staff in the next few years?

I have 2019-2020 as the years. It's science. They win a lot in the 9s and 0s. 1919. 1939. 1940. 1961. 1970. 1990. 2010.

I have to believe a trade and money will be spent. They have to see that themselves as well.

[Mutaman]

It's only been since 2013 that they have not had a winning season and the middle of 2015 and middle of 2016 that they started going into a full rebuild mode. Give me a break wit this over the top analysis after a bad series against the 2nd best team in NL and maybe all of baseball.

Tired of excuses, tired of hearing how good the opposition is, tired of hearing about rebuilding and small markets. This was a disgrace. And in your own ballpark. Not even the slightest bit competitive.

[reds44]

Today's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Asher Wojciechowski, who pitched 5 innings of relief allowing only 1 run on 2 hits with 4 K's.

Asher has put together quite a few much needed bullpen saver games.