Friday night 7.21.17 Marlins @ your Cincinnati Reds

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[Wolves198921]

Miami is similar to the Reds. They have a strong offense, good field players, but no pitching.

[Tom Servo]

Cincinnati Reds‏
@Reds 13m13 minutes ago

Due to impending weather, we no longer anticipate starting tonight's game on time. We plan to provide another update shortly. #Reds



lame

[Wolves198921]

There's noting wrong with the weather but whatever

[Tom Servo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFS66MXW0AEjxMY.jpg

[Chip R]

I guess even the Reds don't want to see Homer pitch.

[Powel Crosley]

This game might not start until 10.

[PutPeteIn]

This game might not start until 10.

Well Marlins like water so I'd say it's best to wait until things dry out a bit.

[DocRed]

~8:55pm

[DocRed]

Sounds like a BS delay per Thom..."to be quite honest with you, it rained hard enough for them to still water the field"

[CrackerJack]

Sounds like a BS delay per Thom..."to be quite honest with you, it rained hard enough for them to still water the field"

More about the lightning i'm thinking, it's been around for the last 2 hours or so.

[Norse1978]

It rained pretty hard for a little while. I think Thom turns into a pumpkin if he isn't home by midnight ha

[Reds Fanatic]

Not off to a good start as Stanton doubles. 2nd and 3rd

[Tony Cloninger]

To still water on the field?

[Wolves198921]

Welp looks like another blow out loss. Can't blame the competition this time since the marlins suck too.

[RiverRat13]

Stanton scorched that ball.


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[Tony Cloninger]

Welp looks like another blow out loss. Can't blame the competition this time since the marlins suck too.

If you do a search engine on this site and put blow out loss would 4,986 posts with your name on it come up?

[Tom Servo]

Welsh somehow arguing Gennett is a plus defender despite the fact that he grades out negatively for his career. Okay.

[Reds Fanatic]

Wild pitch on a strikeout makes it 2-0 Marlins

[Tom Servo]

lmao

[Tony Cloninger]

Welp it's definitely going to be a blow out with that play happening.

[Tom Servo]

That was easily the least productive strikeout from a pitcher I've ever seen, that was truly amazing.

[Wolves198921]

Is there a chance they are throwing games? I mean college players can do better than this. Seriously are they throwing games?

[DocRed]

Homer...

[Ironman92]

Bour and Stanton just murdered those balls

[Reds Fanatic]

Another double. I have a feeling that record for most runs allowed on a home stand is going to fall tonight

[Tom Servo]

96 mph on a fastball from Homer, no velocity issue.

[Reds Fanatic]

Luckily they get a line drive double play at 3rd to end the inning

[Ironman92]

Question....what the heck was Bailey doing for warm up? Batter was in box waiting for start and Bailey was sitting in dugout then came running out....drenched in sweat. Looked like he did a 1/2 marathon in humid weather.

Looked too warmed up to me

[WVRedsFan]

Billy strikes out. Cozart grounds out. Urena has thrown 8 pitches.

[Tom Servo]

I'm in a very nihilistic mood about the Reds tonight.

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds go down 1-2-3 on 9 pitches

[WVRedsFan]

9-pitch first inning for their pitcher. Same old, same old. After one 2-0 Marlins.

[Tony Cloninger]

When this blow out loss is over and after so many more pending blow out losses this year we will all look back and laugh at how funny this all was during the next rebuild.

[WVRedsFan]

When this blow out loss is over and after so many more pending blow out losses this year we will all look back and laugh at how funny this all was during the next rebuild.Yes. Hopefully.

[Big Klu]

I'm in a very nihilistic mood about the Reds tonight.

Welcome aboard! :thumbup:

[Tom Servo]

Welcome aboard! :thumbup:
At the moment I just feel like Ned Flanders when his optimistic nature snapped "Can't you morons do anything right?"

[Reds Fanatic]

Even the outs are being hit hard by the Marlins.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm in a very nihilistic mood about the Reds tonight.

Tom Nietzsche?

[RedsfaninMT]

I think I wasted $10 in purchasing the remainder of the season last month.

[PutPeteIn]

Sit down "Mike"

[Tom Servo]

97 from Homer to strikeout Stanton.

[PutPeteIn]

I think I wasted $10 in purchasing the remainder of the season last month.

Why? No more Nationals, Dodgers, D Backs or Rocks....
We're good.

[Reds Fanatic]

Barnhart with a hit. 1st and 3rd with no outs

[Reds Fanatic]

Bailey sacrifices Barnhart to 2nd. Luckily that was not a DP as it would have been if the pitcher had thrown to 2nd

[Ironman92]

Thom is dumb

[Reds Fanatic]

Hamilton sac fly. 2-1 Marlins

[WVRedsFan]

Billy with the SF. 2-1 Marlins

[Big Klu]

Missed it. How did Schebler get on base?

[Reds Fanatic]

Missed it. How did Schebler get on base?

Hit by pitch

[durl]

Why wasn't Schebler further down the line on Homer's bunt? 3B wasn't close to him. Could have altered the throw to 1st.

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[Big Klu]

Hit by pitch

Thanks.

[PutPeteIn]

Bailey's ERA is in single digits!

[Big Klu]

How many times a night does THom say, "Good stuff" (or "Great stuff")?

[Tom Servo]

How many times a night does THom say, "Good stuff" (or "Great stuff")?

Over 9000

[Big Klu]

Over 9000

HOLY MOSES!

You might be right! ;)

[Reds Fanatic]

DP ends the inning. 2-1 Marlins mid 4th

[Big Klu]

I wonder if THom uses a different "S-word" off-camera?

[PutPeteIn]

Homer is settled in fellas.
4 inns
48 pitches

Votto hits 1st

[Tom Servo]

Senzel's only been moved up one level this season, Thom.

[Tom Servo]

Schebler getting all the attention but Duvall's slash line has been falling rapidly as well.

[Tom Servo]

Bases loaded with two outs for Barnhart.

[Wonderful Monds]

Wow was the game seriously delayed 2 hours?

...why?

[durl]

I'll accept a walk-in run.

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[Tom Servo]

Wow was the game seriously delayed 2 hours?

...why?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Barnhart lines a sinker to right but Stanton catches it near his feet, no dice.

[PutPeteIn]

Any chance Bailey plunks Urena?

[Wonderful Monds]

There hasn't been a drop of rain in Cincinnati all night lol

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Any chance Bailey plunks Urena?

No.

[Tom Servo]

Thom making fun of old ladies.

[PutPeteIn]

Scherzer tagged for 4 in 1st v Snakes.
It happens to the best of em at this level.

[Kc61]

Schebler getting all the attention but Duvall's slash line has been falling rapidly as well.

Duvall still hitting .270 with a near .850 OPS, so it's less noticeable that he's cooled down.

[Big Klu]

Thom making fun of old ladies.

That's because Jim Day and the ballboys are too tough for him.

[Big Klu]

There hasn't been a drop of rain in Cincinnati all night lol

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No.

I'm not from Cincinnati. (I live 3 hours away.)

Was there a threat of lightning in the area?

[WVRedsFan]

We must lead the league in allowing pitcher hits.

[Tom Servo]

0-2 double by the pitcher

[Wonderful Monds]

I'm not from Cincinnati. (I live 3 hours away.)

Was there a threat of lightning in the area?

Could be, there were some dark clouds in the area for awhile, but really it had cleared off by 8.

[bleedsred]

And its not just any pitchers getting hits....it the worst hitting pitchers in the league...at least it sure seems that way.

[RedTeamGo!]

I like Zach Buchanan, but he is reaaallllyyy trolling reds fan hard with Votto's 2nd half start on twitter. Losing a lot of respect in him.

[Tom Servo]

It's felt like Homer has labored but he's only at 73 pitches through 5.

[PutPeteIn]

BAILEY!!!

[Kc61]

Two things I always liked about Bailey.

1. Great mechanics. Uses his legs, finishes his pitches beautifully.

2. When pitching well, gets stronger late in the game. Very rare today when guys commonly fade after six innings.

Very exciting for Reds fans that Homer is back, looking for two good seasons from him as he finishes his contract.

[WVRedsFan]

Two things I always liked about Bailey.

1. Great mechanics. Uses his legs, finishes his pitches beautifully.

2. When pitching well, gets stronger late in the game. Very rare today when guys commonly fade after six innings.

Very exciting for Reds fans that Homer is back, looking for two good seasons from him as he finishes his contract.Totally. I just hope he stays healthy.

[WVRedsFan]

Two things I always liked about Bailey.

1. Great mechanics. Uses his legs, finishes his pitches beautifully.

2. When pitching well, gets stronger late in the game. Very rare today when guys commonly fade after six innings.

Very exciting for Reds fans that Homer is back, looking for two good seasons from him as he finishes his contract.Totally. I just hope he stays healthy.

[Tom Servo]

Still not sure why Redszone slows down sometimes even when nothing is happening. Anyway a leadoff double for Miami as Scooter accidentally soccer kicked a bloop hit.

[WVRedsFan]

RedsZone is acting up. Double posts and gateway timeouts.

[durl]

I'd be for banning batting gloves if it would cause hitters to stay in the box between pitches. [emoji16]

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[Big Klu]

Gratuitous Mark Grace reference by THom.

[durl]

Babe Ruth didn't wear batting gloves.

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[Big Klu]

Babe Ruth didn't wear batting gloves.

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He was a hack.

Speaking of which, Stan Hack never wore them either.

[Tom Servo]

Out at home! Billy guns em down.

[WVRedsFan]

Babe Ruth didn't wear batting gloves.

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When men were men and women stayed home and raised the youngins. :)

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Babe Ruth didn't wear batting gloves.

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When men were men and women stayed home and raised the youngins. :)

[Tom Servo]

6 strong for Homer, how about some runs.

[WVRedsFan]

Double post. "There you go again." - Ronald Reagan

[PutPeteIn]

Don't run on the Reds

Period

[50YrRedsFan]

Out at home! Billy guns em down.

Billy is such an exciting player. If he could only hit better.

[GADawg]

The Marlins have the worst logo in the game

I hate the stupid Marlins and their 3 stupid fans

[Ironman92]

Velocity very good, smooth most of time, overthrowing some. Some bloops fell and some rockets caught. Several balls blasted off bat. Worked 3 double plays.

Trending the right way today.....how he came out to start the game dripping wet and left pitches center cut. Maybe not do burpees in the sauna for 30 min before pitching....I don't know

[RedTeamGo!]

Haha, I have really gotten under Zach Buchanan's skin.

[50YrRedsFan]

Votto with 0 rbi's since the ASB. Shows how everyone has scuffled since the break.

[Tom Servo]

Haha, I have really gotten under Zach Buchanan's skin.
I get his point, but it's the same as C. Trent posting about Phillips' OBP in 2013. In both cases it's definitely fishing for a reaction.

[Wolves198921]

I think the announcer is in love with the Miami pitcher. Won't stop talking about him, if I was the announcer I would be saying, wow I wish I could get an at bat against this guy.

[PutPeteIn]

Imperative that the Reds keep this a one run game as our entire lineup is in a funk.
In fairness they have seen some nasty pitchers early on in the 2nd half.

Let's go!!

[Tom Servo]

Wandy in.

[RedTeamGo!]

I get his point, but it's the same as C. Trent posting about Phillips' OBP in 2013. In both cases it's definitely fishing for a reaction.

I don't get his point, it's a TINY sample size. It's meaningless to point out at this point.

[Tom Servo]

Just realized they ruled Schebler's 2nd PA as a hit by pitch, even though the ball went between his legs and it was a 3 ball count. Okay.

[PutPeteIn]

Peralta touches 98 with the cheese ball

[RedTeamGo!]

As a 2md basemen, Scooter is an OK hitter.

[Tom Servo]

Welsh somehow arguing Gennett is a plus defender despite the fact that he grades out negatively for his career. Okay.
Ahem.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ahem.

That throw was bad and Scooter should feel bad. Imagine if Peraza made that error, Thom would still be complaining about it.

[Tom Servo]

Thom got literally every part of that last call wrong.

Yelich single makes it 3-1 Fish.

[Wolves198921]

Damn if only we could throw the ball and turn double plays like a MLB team should

[Kc61]

That throw was bad and Scooter should feel bad. Imagine if Peraza made that error, Thom would still be complaining about it.

Peraza made six errors all season.

[WVRedsFan]

FSO goes for commercial right in the middle of an at bat.

[Wolves198921]

FSO goes for commercial right in the middle of an at bat.
They are doing us a favor

[PutPeteIn]

Big K there

[RedTeamGo!]

FSO goes for commercial right in the middle of an at bat.

I'm in Toledo so finally get to watch a game on cable and am like "whaaaaaaaat is going on?"

[durl]

FSO goes for commercial right in the middle of an at bat.Hopefully the series of commercials means we got the 3rd out.

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[Kc61]

This season has been bad enough, but if Reds are going to throw the ball around like that play, it becomes intolerable.

At least the team generally plays superior defense.

[Wolves198921]

Holy hell! They are re showing the same three commercials over and over. What's going on!

[BluegrassRedleg]

I've never learned more about pulmonary hypertension and girls playing soccer.


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[durl]

Holy hell! They are re showing the same three commercials over and over. What's going on!They want to bill the advertisers twice?

Guessing we got the 3rd out...no action to return to.

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[durl]

Groundhog Day.

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[Wolves198921]

I'm glad to see mental health getting attention though

[WVRedsFan]

TV truck lost power.

[Tom Servo]

My MLB TV feed has been in commercial break for about the last 5 minutes.

[Kc61]

TV problem apparently. Suarez singled. Schebler up.

[Tom Servo]

Chris Welsh‏
@thinkpitch

Tech difficulties @FOXSportsOH. We've lost power to the TV truck and should be back on the air soon. Hang in there.


lol

[BluegrassRedleg]

Team slogan for 2017: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170722/84dc06fa09e63f2b0c2b275e03c99196.jpg


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[WVRedsFan]

Now we get sound but no pbp and no picture. Must have to get the tubes warmed up

[Kc61]

Wild pitch, Suarez to second, 2-2 on Schebler. Picture returns.

[Tom Servo]

My feed is back.

[Big Klu]

I actually like the video without all the scoreboard graphics all over the screen.

[WVRedsFan]

Alcantara on deck to pinch hit, but that's almost futile

[Tom Servo]

I actually like the video without all the scoreboard graphics all over the screen.
It does make me think they could stand to make the graphics smaller.

[RedTeamGo!]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ha3T758XAjE/maxresdefault.jpg

[Kc61]

This is where I generally disagree with Price. He's likely to bunt with Barnhart, which I would not do.

I'd play for the big inning.

[durl]

This is where I generally disagree with Price. He's likely to bunt with Barnhart, which I would not do.

I'd play for the big inning.But it was an excellent bunt.

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[Big Klu]

It does make me think they could stand to make the graphics smaller.

Or if there was some way you could toggle them on and off.

[Tom Servo]

Bunting sucks.

[Kc61]

Yes, great bunt.

It does help if the player knows how to bunt, a rarity these days.

[durl]

Or if there was some way you could toggle them on and off.I just wish the lower bar would GO AWAY.

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[BluegrassRedleg]

Not keen on price or bunting, but if you are ever going to do it, that's when.


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[Big Klu]

Alcantara on deck to pinch hit, but that's almost futile

The ol' "bait and switch"!

Mesoraco to PH instead of Alcantara.

[durl]

Bunting sucks.Even on a suicide squeeze?

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[RedTeamGo!]

Yes, great bunt.

Indeed, he very efficiently gave away an out.

[durl]

Mesoraco "clogs the bases."

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[Big Klu]

I just wish the lower bar would GO AWAY.

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I was watching my recoding of the 1990 World Series some time ago. They would flash the count and number of outs between pitches, but that was it.

[mhs95_06]

How about a bunt by Billy?

[RedTeamGo!]

Ugh. Billy is not good.

[Tom Servo]

Price's strategy working brilliantly so far.

[Tony Cloninger]

Of course he hits it there. Right to the 2b.

[durl]

I was watching my recoding of the 1990 World Series some time ago. They would flash the count and number of outs between pitches, but that was it.Give me a pop-up graphic, wide-angle camera shots on plays, and NO announcers for a dozen or so games a year.

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[mhs95_06]

Good play by the Marlins, but a bunt by Billy would score a run, get the lead run in scoring position for Cozart, and they might get lucky and all runners are safe.

[Wolves198921]

That's the ball game. Good lord the reds have to be one of the worst in history

[durl]

3 hits, 7 LOB.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Of course he hits it there. Right to the 2b.

He is bad.

[Tom Servo]

He is bad.
And the possibility of bases loaded, one out with Hamilton up was made exceedingly possible by Price's bunt decision.

[RedTeamGo!]

That's the ball game. Good lord the reds have to be one of the worst in history

Nah.

The 2003 Detroit Tigers went 43-119

To put this in perspective, the 2017 Cincinnati Reds have 40 wins on July 21st.

[Kc61]

Drew Storen into the game. Auditioning for some team, no doubt.

[WVRedsFan]

And the possibility of bases loaded, one out with Hamilton up was made exceedingly possible by Price's bunt decision.

I rest my case. No judgment or awareness of anything except what he's watched other managers doing.

[Tony Cloninger]

The guy you want to drive the ball for at least a SF grounds out to a guy playing halfway and of course you know the rest. Offense may not be a problem this year but since the AS break its not exactly helping much either.

[RedTeamGo!]

And the possibility of bases loaded, one out with Hamilton up was made exceedingly possible by Price's bunt decision.

Yup, Price absolutely has to go.

[Norse1978]

And the possibility of bases loaded, one out with Hamilton up was made exceedingly possible by Price's bunt decision.

Great decision by Price. I'll give Price credit for one thing he helps the Reds get a higher draft pick every year.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm really sick of Hamilton leading this team in at bats. Either put him 8th or 9th in the lineup, bench him, or trade him.

He is simply not good enough at getting on base to lead the team in plate appearances. It's a complete joke and something smart teams would NEVER do.

[Tom Servo]

Should at least be able to get a decent scratch off ticket for Storen at the deadline.

[Tony Cloninger]

It may not be great strategy but it was still based loaded 1 out. The other day it was bases loaded no outs. Nothing.

[Mutaman]

If we only had decent starting pitching something something.

[Big Klu]

Bearclaw pitching for the Fish.

[mhs95_06]

The guy you want to drive the ball for at least a SF grounds out to a guy playing halfway and of course you know the rest. Offense may not be a problem this year but since the AS break its not exactly helping much either.

Situational hitting is definitely a problem, starting pitching is the major problem.

[Big Klu]

Nah.

The 2003 Detroit Tigers went 43-119

To put this in perspective, the 2017 Cincinnati Reds have 40 wins on July 21st.

The 1962 Mets were 40-120.

[PutPeteIn]

These guys are absolutely clueless at the plate. Unreal.

[RedTeamGo!]

The 1962 Mets were 40-120.

Haha, yep! I always wonder if late September they hit 120 losses and MLB was just kind of like "nah, you guys have had enough, go on home now, ya hear?"

[mhs95_06]

I'm really sick of Hamilton leading this team in at bats. Either put him 8th or 9th in the lineup, bench him, or trade him.

He is simply not good enough at getting on base to lead the team in plate appearances. It's a complete joke and something smart teams would NEVER do.

I've always liked LaRussa's idea of pitcher batting 8th and Billy is a perfect #9 hitter in that scenario. When you have 9,1,2 starting an inning, the P batting 9th hamstrings the inning so much!

[50YrRedsFan]

Duvall swings at a lot of pitches out of the zone. The same low outside slider Frazier couldn't lay off of.

[Kc61]

Whenever a team has terrible pitching, at some point the hitting goes south. And vice versa, when a team has no hitting, eventually the pitching slumps.

Too much pressure on one side of the ball.

Eventually the offense views every game as an uphill climb and starts to press.

So Reds aren't hitting now, which just makes things worse.

[RedTeamGo!]

I've always liked LaRussa's idea of pitcher batting 8th and Billy is a perfect #9 hitter in that scenario. When you have 9,1,2 starting an inning, the P batting 9th hamstrings the inning so much!

It's not just the strategy...it's the fact the Reds have a 300 obp hitter with 0 power getting the most plate appearances on the team. It's infuriating.

[mhs95_06]

Whenever a team has terrible pitching, at some point the hitting goes south. And vice versa, when a team has no hitting, eventually the pitching slumps.

Too much pressure on one side of the ball.

Eventually the offense views every game as an uphill climb and starts to press.

So Reds aren't hitting now, which just makes things worse.

Like Marty said after the 7th, "If its not one thing, its another"!

[WVRedsFan]

Oh, well. The bats have gone silent.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm sorry. Piling on here but that was a freaking hanger in the middle of the plate and that's the best swing you could come up with?

[Tom Servo]

Wake Blood in.

[Tony Cloninger]

Bearclaw and Blood. Is this Sons of anarchy night?

[Tom Servo]

What is Thom going on about? Votto flipped it like a soft pancake, Wood could have dropped it and still gotten the runner out.

[Big Klu]

What is Thom going on about? Votto flipped it like a soft pancake, Wood could have dropped it and still gotten the runner out.

It's an opportunity to pile on Votto.

[PutPeteIn]

D Gordon Liddy is retired

[Big Klu]

I've always liked LaRussa's idea of pitcher batting 8th and Billy is a perfect #9 hitter in that scenario. When you have 9,1,2 starting an inning, the P batting 9th hamstrings the inning so much!

I absolutely HATE the "pitcher batting 8th" gimmick. (Unless you're talking about a pitcher like Don Newcombe or Bob Gibson. Or Madison Bumgarner in today's game.)

[mhs95_06]

Does Peraza get to bat in the 9th spot?

[Wonderful Monds]

Wake Blood in.

metal af

[WVRedsFan]

Pretty disgusting, but tht is most every night. Now, we get Alcantara


I know. Not much choice.

[Big Klu]

THom is so happy that he gets to overpronounce "Arismendy Alcantara". :D

[Tom Servo]

We're still bad. But at least the opposition was held to single digits.

[WVRedsFan]

At least it's better than 11-2, right?

[RedTeamGo!]

metal af

https://img.memecdn.com/gandalf-is-metal-af_fb_4415983.jpg

[Big Klu]

Tonight's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Marlins starter Jose Ureña, who pitched six innings allowing 1 run on 3 hits with 4 K's to get the win, and also was 1-for-2 with a double.

[BluegrassRedleg]

THom is so happy that he gets to overpronounce "Arismendy Alcantara". :D

Imagine if he and Jon Miller were calling together.

[Big Klu]

https://img.memecdn.com/gandalf-is-metal-af_fb_4415983.jpg

In my mind, I hear Gandalf playing "Hall of the Mountain King" by Savatage.

[WVRedsFan]

The silver lining is Homer's 6 innings of 8-hit, 2 run ball. ERA down a couple of points, The rest is crap. Three bases loaded opportunities and no runs.

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nm

[WVRedsFan]

The rest of the series looks like Sunday gives us the best chance against Kohler (7.92 ERA). Of course, with Urena tonight coming in with a 4+ ERA, we sould have won. Funny how that works along with having the based packed three times. Funny how that works