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klw
07-25-2017, 03:40 PM
Reds and Yankees go to NYC for Game 3, Reds up 2-0 on the Series!

Reds lineup:
Pete Rose 3B
Ken Griffey RF
Joe Morgan 2B
Tony Perez 1B
Dan Driessen DH
George Foster LF
Johnny Bench C
Cesar Geronimo CF
Dave Concepcion SS

Pat Zachry P

Yankees Lineup:
Mickey Rivers CF
Roy White LF
Thurman Munson C
Chris Chambliss 1B
Carlos May DH
Graig Nettles 3B
Oscar Gamble RF
Willie Randolph 2B
Fred Stanley SS

Dock Ellis P


Still funny to see Dock with anyone other than the Pirates.

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Reds Fanatic
07-25-2017, 04:15 PM
REDS

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Adam Duvall (R) DH
5. Patrick Kivlehan (R) LF
6. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
7. Scott Schebler (L) RF
8. Jose Peraza (R) SS
9. Arismendy Alcantara (S) 2B

Luis Castillo (R)

YANKEES
1. Brett Gardner (L) CF
2. Clint Frazier (R) LF
3. Aaron Judge (R) RF
4. Matt Holliday (R) DH
5. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
6. Chase Headley (S) 1B
7. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
8. Tyler Wade (L) 2B
9. Austin Romine (R) C

Jordan Montgomery (L)

JaxRed
07-25-2017, 04:43 PM
Hoping our 2 lefties break out of the funk.

reds44
07-25-2017, 05:37 PM
Wtf is up with all the ABs for Kivlehan?

klw
07-25-2017, 05:39 PM
Wtf is up with all the ABs for Kivlehan?

I assume Duvall is dinged up as he did not play yesterday and is DHing today. Otherwise stick Duvall in LF and DH Mesoraco.


Buddies catching up.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFm8XlUXsAElDPy.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFm8YMfXgAA4cs9.jpg

klw
07-25-2017, 05:41 PM
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Tonight is a scheduled day off (aka right quad preservation) for Cozart. #reds

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 05:54 PM
Frazier has done nothing in his first few games with NY. Hopefully that stays the case tonight or tomorrow, but he's probably extra motivated.

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 06:11 PM
Duvall is one of the best LF around....if he's banged up, why play him....if he's not DH is asinine for him

757690
07-25-2017, 06:36 PM
Wtf is up with all the ABs for Kivlehan?

In pre game interview Sunday, Price said he thought Kivlehan could start for other teams. Maybe showcasing him as potential trade bait? Just a guess.

Rantly
07-25-2017, 06:49 PM
Wtf is up with all the ABs for Kivlehan?

Gotta to get Kivie going.

- - - Updated - - -


In pre game interview Sunday, Price said he thought Kivlehan could start for other teams. Maybe showcasing him as potential trade bait? Just a guess.

Are you serious Clark

DocRed
07-25-2017, 06:59 PM
Wtf is up with all the ABs for Kivlehan?

Price being Price

Kc61
07-25-2017, 07:04 PM
If he's going to give Kivlehan at bats, this is the game. Lefty pitcher, DH game (room for extra hitter).

I'm guessing Price just thought Duvall needed a little break. Adam seemed overused last year, over 600 PAs in first full MLB season.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:07 PM
In pre game interview Sunday, Price said he thought Kivlehan could start for other teams. Maybe showcasing him as potential trade bait? Just a guess.

Just another reason Price is a dummy. Fire him.

757690
07-25-2017, 07:09 PM
Gotta to get Kivie going.

- - - Updated - - -



Are you serious Clark

Serious about what Price said. He was very high on him. Just spitballing on the trade bait part.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:12 PM
500-600 Frazier friends in attendance, good lord.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:13 PM
Duvall is one of the best LF around....if he's banged up, why play him....if he's not DH is asinine for him

It isn't discussed often and it's easy to forget, but remember that Duvall is diabetic. It doesn't hurt to give him a break now and then.

membengal
07-25-2017, 07:22 PM
The K for out two from Castillo was a nasty change. And now blows a fastball by Judge. Hella impressive.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:22 PM
Luis Castillo is #good

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:22 PM
100 MPH smoke to K Judge. :beerme:

Tony Cloninger
07-25-2017, 07:26 PM
A barely passable #3 potential here. At best a numero cuatro.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:33 PM
Just another reason Price is a dummy. Fire him.

Get to the point....oh, nevermind..you did.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:34 PM
Blah

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:35 PM
Bases loaded after 3 singles to start the 2nd. Not ideal!

757690
07-25-2017, 07:35 PM
I'm waiting for George Grande to say that a opposing player is an asset on, but not off the field.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:35 PM
Yanks with bases loaded, no out. Let's see how Castillo reacts.

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:36 PM
Well, this has started out well

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
Triple play!

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
LOL... Reds turn a triple-play!

YESSIRREEREE?

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
Triple Play!!!!!

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
what on earth

membengal
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
Good lord! A triple play!

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:37 PM
Holy hell lmao

Raisor
07-25-2017, 07:38 PM
LOL... Reds turn a triple-play!

Price drew that play up.

Red Raindog
07-25-2017, 07:38 PM
major TOOTBLAN

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:38 PM
Let's turn three!

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 07:39 PM
what on earth

Just your average 6-3-5-4-6 triple play.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:39 PM
I didn't catch what happened at first there, was there a reason Peraza didn't flip it to 2nd?

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:39 PM
When was the last time the Reds turned a triple play?

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:39 PM
Yankees get one run on a triple play. Castillo got out of that cheaply enough.

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 07:39 PM
Price drew that play up.

Reds should pick up his option right now! LOL

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
RBI triple play for Frazier

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
Fitting that a former Red would hit into that. :p

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
Castillo got out of that cheaply enough.
pfffft

BCubb2003
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
Yeah, but it was a productive triple play.

CrackerJack
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
George Grande is smiling like he's never smiled before after that one.

BTW I get tired of looking at that guy's haircut on the Beechmont Ford commercials.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:41 PM
Yanks with 4 hard hit balls that inning.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:41 PM
Just your average 6-3-5-4-6 triple play.

Actually, I think it went 6-3-5-6.


RBI triple play for Frazier

The run scores, but no RBI.

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 07:41 PM
Just your average 6-3-5-4-6 triple play.

I mean your average 6-3-5-6 triple play.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:41 PM
Price drew that play up.

One week extension.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:42 PM
Schebler is so bad right now.

BCubb2003
07-25-2017, 07:42 PM
Fitting that a former Red would hit into that. :p

Two former Reds were involved.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:42 PM
RBI triple play for Frazier

Typical Reds: Turn a triple play and a run still scores.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:43 PM
major TOOTBLAN

12684

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 07:43 PM
Yanks with 4 hard hit balls that inning.

Gotta see if Castillo and Barnhart adjust back so they can start inducing weak contact again.

mbgrayson
07-25-2017, 07:43 PM
RBI triple play for Frazier

No RBI when a batter grounds into a double play (or a triple play)....

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:43 PM
Gotta see if Castillo and Barnhart adjust back so they can start inducing weak contact again.
Mesoraco

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:44 PM
George Grande is smiling like he's never smiled before after that one.

BTW I get tired of looking at that guy's haircut on the Beechmont Ford commercials.

Elk & Elk has got him beat.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 07:44 PM
No RBI when a batter grounds into a double play (or a triple play)....

They should change it for triple plays.

It's really hard to score a run on a triple play. You should get an RBI.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:45 PM
Fitting that a former Red would hit into that. :p

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd... A former Red on the TOOTBLAN. (Although that's a tough one.) :p

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:45 PM
No RBI when a batter grounds into a double play (or a triple play)....

Yeah but that's not as funny tho

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:46 PM
Two former Reds were involved.

And three current Reds.

membengal
07-25-2017, 07:46 PM
That was a nice play from alcantara.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:46 PM
Castillo's good at getting those ground balls

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:48 PM
Apropos to nothing besides Alcantara is out there wearing it, but it's BS the Reds have never retired #30.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:48 PM
When was the last time the Reds turned a triple play?

1995 vs. the Marlins.

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:48 PM
Typical Reds: Turn a triple play and a run still scores.Snakebit :)

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:49 PM
1995 vs. the Marlins.Wow. 22 years.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:49 PM
Snakebit :)

CURSED

Tuff Nut
07-25-2017, 07:49 PM
I mean your average 6-3-5-6 triple play.

On MLB gamecast they had it as a 6-3-5-4-6 triple play

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:50 PM
Grande/Welsh is the Reds best booth combo

Don't @ me

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:50 PM
Everyone hear George gush over former Cardinal Holliday?

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:51 PM
Apropos to nothing besides Alcantara is out there wearing it, but it's BS the Reds have never retired #30.

Yes, Norris Hopper should have his number up there with the other greats.

DocRed
07-25-2017, 07:51 PM
Why didn't we go home first?

Raisor
07-25-2017, 07:52 PM
Why didn't we go home first?

I am home.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:52 PM
On MLB gamecast they had it as a 6-3-5-4-6 triple play

Maybe that's what they have, but Suarez made the last throw, and Peraza ran Didi out of the baseline.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:53 PM
Yes, Norris Hopper should have his number up there with the other greats.

Respect the Bunt King

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:53 PM
Everyone hear George gush over former Cardinal Holliday?
I did but to be fair, I do think Holliday is a good player and was a good signing for NYY.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:53 PM
yeah jeets

Kc61
07-25-2017, 07:54 PM
Why didn't we go home first?

So as not to lose the double play.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:54 PM
I am home.
That was fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9cFwyyYH3Y

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:54 PM
button up your jersey, ya goon

DocRed
07-25-2017, 07:54 PM
bleh ok

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:55 PM
On MLB gamecast they had it as a 6-3-5-4-6 triple play

C. Trent checked with the official scorer and was told it was a 6-6-3-5-6 triple play.

Raisor
07-25-2017, 07:55 PM
Peraza should have gone home, easy DP. Got a bit lucky that he got a triple play.

Complaining about a triple play is just so Reds fan.



;)

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:55 PM
bleh ok
Did you see the same play I did? There's about no way you'd get anybody else if you threw home.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:55 PM
hit it on the ground, Billy

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 07:56 PM
C. Trent checked with the official scorer and was told it was a 6-6-3-5-6 triple play.

Peraza threw it to himself?

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:56 PM
I'm already burned out on Aaron Judge hype

pls stop

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:56 PM
Soft tossing lefty. Kryptonite!

DocRed
07-25-2017, 07:57 PM
Did you see the same play I did? There's about no way you'd get anybody else if you threw home.

I saw the reply, he would have gotten Gregorius easily as he was already breaking back to 2nd. So...no way? Rewatch it yourself

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 07:57 PM
This guy's been hit pretty hard his last four outings. Reds can't get a sniff.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 07:57 PM
Soft tossing lefty. Kryptonite!

no hit through 4

fixed it.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 07:57 PM
I'm already burned out on Aaron Judge hype

pls stop
I have to figure that at SOME POINT he's gonna regress some considering how much better he's playing than his minor league numbers.


Also Reds are getting no hit lol.

DocRed
07-25-2017, 07:58 PM
Complaining about a triple play is just so Reds fan.



;)


Yep I agree

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:58 PM
Peraza threw it to himself?

:dunno:

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 07:58 PM
Why was the run credited on a triple play?

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:58 PM
perfect through 4

No. Duvall walked.

Raisor
07-25-2017, 07:59 PM
I saw the reply, he would have gotten Gregorius easily as he was already breaking back to 2nd. So...no way?

We have reached the apex.

We are officially having to defend a triple play.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 07:59 PM
Why was the run credited on a triple play?

No force on the 3rd out and the run scored before that.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 07:59 PM
I have to figure that at SOME POINT he's gonna regress some considering how much better he's playing than his minor league numbers.


Also Reds are getting no hit lol.

I think he'll stay pretty good though, I do buy the theory that power hitting types might start doing better in the majors than the minors given that the balls are juiced in the bigs.

But Welsh did just point out he's already gone cold post ASB

DocRed
07-25-2017, 08:00 PM
We have reached the apex.

We are officially having to defend a triple play.

Actually its the choice of 2 outs with runners at 2nd and 1st vs giving up a run.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:00 PM
Why was the run credited on a triple play?

3rd out wasn't forced, Didi was caught in a rundown

Chip R
07-25-2017, 08:01 PM
We have reached the apex.

We are officially having to defend a triple play.

More like nadir.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:01 PM
Respect the Bunt King

Seriously though, Ken Griffey had a fine career with the Reds, but I don't think it was quite good enough to get his number retired.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:02 PM
Seriously though, Ken Griffey had a fine career with the Reds, but I don't think it was quite good enough to get his number retired.

Between both Griffey's, I think I would do it.

Raisor
07-25-2017, 08:02 PM
Actually its the choice of 2 outs with runners at 2nd and 1st vs giving up a run.

Early in a game if you can get a triple play you concede the run.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:02 PM
No. Duvall walked.

oops, I fixed it.

Raisor
07-25-2017, 08:03 PM
More like nadir.

He ran for president like 20 times

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:03 PM
Balk by Castillo :/

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:03 PM
Triple plays are good, lets not argue this.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:04 PM
Between both Griffey's, I think I would do it.

Neither Griffey was quite good enough to warrant it, IMO. And Ken Jr. abandoned the number.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:04 PM
lmao at the big guy in the home plate seats jumping out of his skin at that foul ball

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:04 PM
Actually its the choice of 2 outs with runners at 2nd and 1st vs giving up a run.

There is no choice. It's a set play. The infield was not in. It was at DP depth. The whole set up is to get the double play at second to first.

With the infield in, the first play is to home. But that's a different alignment.

The infielder is not supposed to stop and look around. It's a set play.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:05 PM
More like nadir.

Bonus points for excellent vocabulary! :thumbup:

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:06 PM
Neither Griffey was quite good enough to warrant it, IMO. And Ken Jr. abandoned the number.

True, I did forget he switched to 3. But it was only for the last half season wasn't it?

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:06 PM
2-0 Yanks on a sac fly, thanks in large part to the balk

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:07 PM
Yankees get a gift run because of the balk. Boo

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:07 PM
True, I did forget he switched to 3. But it was only for the last half season wasn't it?
He had 3 from 2006 until he was traded in 2008

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:08 PM
Watching this game, the Reds should consider a rebuild.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:08 PM
He had 3 from 2006 until he was traded in 2008

Oh dang, that was definitely longer than I remembered haha

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:09 PM
True, I did forget he switched to 3. But it was only for the last half season wasn't it?

Nope. 2006 through 2008.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:09 PM
Oh dang, that was definitely longer than I remembered haha

The rebuild? :eek:

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 08:09 PM
No force on the 3rd out and the run scored before that.

Thanks Chip.

Raisor
07-25-2017, 08:10 PM
Thanks Chip.

It's ok to call Chip a weasel by the way

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:11 PM
There is no choice. It's a set play. The infield was not in. It was at DP depth. The whole set up is to get the double play at second to first.

With the infield in, the first play is to home. But that's a different alignment.

The infielder is not supposed to stop and look around. It's a set play.

Though Peraza did look like he locked up a bit at the beginning of the play, still not sure why he tagged 2nd himself instead of flipping it to Alcantara

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:12 PM
Though Peraza did look like he locked up a bit at the beginning of the play, still not sure why he tagged 2nd himself instead of flipping it to Alcantara
I've noticed him do that a bit on double plays, taking the play himself at 2nd and firing to 1st.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:12 PM
Reds don't seem to have a hit.

Or maybe I missed it. Seem to doze off on non-triple plays.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 08:12 PM
What are odds that the Reds would have a player hit four homers in a game the same season they turn a triple play?
When you consider the Reds have been playing ball since 1869 and it took until 2017 for the four homer game and when you factor in 22 years since last triple play circa 1995 what are the combined odds?

TIA.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:12 PM
Will the Reds offense show by the end of the game?

Tuff Nut
07-25-2017, 08:13 PM
Maybe that's what they have, but Suarez made the last throw, and Peraza ran Didi out of the baseline.

I didn't see it, I am at work, but they had Alcantara listed. Maybe because the ball went to 2B??? Makes me no different, it still goes down as a triple play.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:14 PM
It's ok to call Chip a weasel by the way

Chip Heenan?

http://www.profightdb.com/img/wrestlers/thumbs-600/93c25bcbfcbobbyheenan.jpg

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:15 PM
I've noticed him do that a bit on double plays, taking the play himself at 2nd and firing to 1st.

I was wondering if he thought Alcantara wasn't positioned to get the throw to first on time or what happened there, but it was definitely an awkward hesitation

I actually thought it was what baited Didi into breaking back to 2nd, because it seemed like he was playing it like a line out.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 08:16 PM
Why did Gi gi stop running to third?

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 08:16 PM
Update on the triple play has the official scorer now saying it was an 8-6-7-5-3-0-9 triple play.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:17 PM
Has Castillo allowed anything besides singles yet?

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:17 PM
Why did Gi gi stop running to third?

Seemed like he thought Peraza caught it on the line? That's what Welsh suggested and only thing I can think of

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:20 PM
Has Castillo allowed anything besides singles yet?

I can't believe you've done this.

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:20 PM
I didn't see it, I am at work, but they had Alcantara listed. Maybe because the ball went to 2B??? Makes me no different, it still goes down as a triple play.

It's easy for even the official scorer to lose track on a rundown play like that.

Peraza fielded the ball on a short hop at SS and took it to 2nd himself for the first out, then threw to Votto at 1st for the DP. Didi had frozen for a moment when the ball was hit because he thought Peraza might catch it, then broke late for 3rd. Votto threw across the diamond to Suarez to get Didi in a rundown. Suarez ran him back toward 2nd, then threw to Peraza covering, who chased Didi down and eventually forced him out of the baseline on the way to 3rd.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:21 PM
Has Castillo allowed anything besides singles yet?
Well there's a double.

3-0 Yanks

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 08:22 PM
Seemed like he thought Peraza caught it on the line? That's what Welsh suggested and only thing I can think of

Thanks wonderful, that's wonderful.

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 08:22 PM
Well there's a double.

3-0 Yanks

Thanks Tom! :p

chuck6660
07-25-2017, 08:23 PM
This Reds team is just Priceless!

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 08:23 PM
I think I'm just gonna pop in my old DVD from the 76 World Series from here on.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:23 PM
Has Castillo allowed anything besides singles yet?

You had to say it...

Chip R
07-25-2017, 08:24 PM
Has Castillo allowed anything besides singles yet?

Jinx.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:24 PM
Mack Jenkins is like the prime example of why they shouldn't make coaches and managers wear uniforms.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:24 PM
Jeez I just asked a question, pls no bully.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:25 PM
With the Reds offense still at the hotel, this one might be getting out of hand.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:26 PM
lol what the hell

clearly had tagged him but whatever

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 08:26 PM
Wow Suarez! What a play

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:27 PM
Mack Jenkins is like the prime example of why they shouldn't make coaches and managers wear uniforms.

They don't call him big mac for nothing. :D

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 08:27 PM
Reds should walk Judge here.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:28 PM
Reds should walk Judge here.

Meh let him go after him, he's been cold lately

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 08:28 PM
Update on the triple play has the official scorer now saying it was an 8-6-7-5-3-0-9 triple play.

Now I'm hearing that the official scorer (shown here with Johnny Bench) is now saying it was B-R-5-4-9.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/600x315/41/7a/93/417a930e8d4f66ae230081c03e4c10b5.jpg

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 08:29 PM
Reds should walk Judge here.

Why....hit a lazy blooper last time

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:29 PM
Castillo getting tired? Missing on many pitches.

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 08:30 PM
Welsh awfully vocal about is displeasure of pitch calling and pitches being thrown between Mesoraco and Castilla

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:31 PM
This should be Castillo's last inning.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 08:31 PM
Reds should walk Judge here.

Wish granted.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:32 PM
i swear to god if price sends him out for the 6th

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:32 PM
This should be Castillo's last inning.


i swear to god if price sends him out for the 6th

My guys, you know exactly what's gonna happen.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 08:32 PM
This Reds team is just Priceless!

Not yet but they will be soon.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:33 PM
no hitter no hitter no hitter

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:34 PM
i swear to god if price sends him out for the 6th

I'm seeing 86 pitches for Castillo. IF that's right, why can't he pitch another inning?

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 08:35 PM
Give me a "like" for that Schebler double because I just *****ed about them playing him with 2 hits in seemingly the last month....he was on second 9 seconds after I said it

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:35 PM
what was that? oh, a hit.....been so long since I saw one.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 08:35 PM
I'm seeing 86 pitches for Castillo. IF that's right, why can't he pitch another inning?
Are you watching the game? He's laboring. He struck out the first two batters of the game and ever since they've been making solid contact.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:35 PM
I'm seeing 86 pitches for Castillo. IF that's right, why can't he pitch another inning?

Last couple innings have been walking the tightrope

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:36 PM
I'm seeing 86 pitches for Castillo. IF that's right, why can't he pitch another inning?

because he's struggled all game? He got a lucky triple play to get out of one inning and just left the bases loaded last inning.

Why would you push your luck?

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Pockets on the front of dress shirts are just a terrible look.

(i'm watching the Yankees broadcast because George Grande)

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:37 PM
I like the guy, but Schebler looks like a guy whose first name is "Chud"

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:38 PM
I like the guy, but Schebler looks like a guy whose first name is "Chud"

lmao

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:39 PM
A run, wow

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:40 PM
I know it doesn't matter at all, but why is Alcantara still on the team lol

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Peraza-Alcantara-Hamilton is the new murderer's row

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 08:41 PM
Who all guessed the Reds murderers' row of Schebler, Peraza and Alcantara would manufacture the run?

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:41 PM
because he's struggled all game? He got a lucky triple play to get out of one inning and just left the bases loaded last inning.

Why would you push your luck?

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Pockets on the front of dress shirts are just a terrible look.

(i'm watching the Yankees broadcast because George Grande)

Push your luck. With the game or with the pitcher?

I'm not too worried about this game, I get it if you are, that's fine.

In terms of Castillo, if he's tired take him out, if not 95 pitches shouldn't be a big deal. We are trying to make him a starter.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 08:41 PM
I know it doesn't matter at all, but why is Alcantara still on the team lol

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Peraza-Alcantara-Hamilton is the new murderer's row

He mows Price's lawn?

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:42 PM
wow he actually pulled Luis

*turns game off*

Raisor
07-25-2017, 08:42 PM
I know it doesn't matter at all, but why is Alcantara still on the team lol



I think you answered your own question

757690
07-25-2017, 08:44 PM
I still would love to know what the areas can get for Peralta at the deadline. If they can get a top 100 MLB prospect for him, I'd do it.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:45 PM
He mows Price's lawn?

12685

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Push your luck. With the game or with the pitcher?

I'm not too worried about this game, I get it if you are, that's fine.

In terms of Castillo, if he's tired take him out, if not 95 pitches shouldn't be a big deal. We are trying to make him a starter.

So we want to send him out there and possibly blow up his ERA in a start where he is clearly struggling?

Nope

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:46 PM
I still would love to know what the areas can get for Peralta at the deadline. If they can get a top 100 MLB prospect for him, I'd do it.

You really do want to start another rebuild.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:47 PM
Still cant believe they got Castillo for Straily

The Marlins are so dumb lmao

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:49 PM
It amazes me how often the Yankees lineup seems like it's cobbled together from other team's rejects and old dudes past their prime.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:50 PM
I think you answered your own question

i know he's dead now, but give that Sweeney dude in AAA a shot at some point.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:50 PM
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So we want to send him out there and possibly blow up his ERA in a start where he is clearly struggling?

Nope

Blow up his ERA? I don't give a damn about his ERA. I want Castillo to develop into a starter, not preserve his ERA by early exits.

If Castillo is tired, or the coaches don't like how he's throwing, by all means take him out.

But I want starters, not glorified long relievers, worrying about next inning's impact on his ERA.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:51 PM
Damn, didi has an .805 OPS?

Took him awhile, but he turned into a hell of a player

757690
07-25-2017, 08:52 PM
You really do want to start another rebuild.

I just don't trust relievers.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:52 PM
Blow up his ERA? I don't give a damn about his ERA. I want Castillo to develop into a starter, not preserve his ERA by early exits.

If Castillo is tired, or the coaches don't like how he's throwing, by all means take him out.

But I want starters, not glorified long relievers, worrying about his ERA next inning.
Castillo has thrown 107, 111, and 113 pitches in 3 of his now 7 big league starts.

This seems to be not a strong point by you.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:52 PM
Damn, did has an .805 OPS?

Took him awhile, but he turned into a hell of a player

He's been pretty damn good since he's been a Yankee I'm pretty sure.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:55 PM
Joey could use a day off

Kc61
07-25-2017, 08:55 PM
Castillo has thrown 107, 111, and 113 pitches in 3 of his now 7 big league starts.

This seems to be not a strong point by you.

I'm talking about tonight's game. Not past games.

He was lifted with 86 pitches, five innings. Ok once in awhile, but I'm not pulling guys to preserve their ERA, and it is not optimal for them to have short outings.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 08:56 PM
I'm talking about tonight's game. Not past games.

He was lifted with 86 pitches, five innings. Ok once in awhile, but I'm not pulling guys to preserve their ERA, and it is not optimal for them to go five innings, 86 pitches.

Those were still 86 stressful pitches though, he went bases loaded twice.

reds44
07-25-2017, 08:56 PM
I'm talking about tonight's game. Not past games.

He was lifted with 86 pitches, five innings. Ok once in awhile, but I'm not pulling guys to preserve their ERA, and it is not optimal for them to go five innings, 86 pitches.
He pitched 5 innings and he struggled. He was lucky to only give up 3 runs. There was no need to try to milk another inning out of him in a lost year. Very little good would have come from it.

Your "long relievers" comment was dumb because he's been throwing well over 100 pitches multiple times as a starter.

The end.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 09:04 PM
Castillo has thrown 107, 111, and 113 pitches in 3 of his now 7 big league starts.

This seems to be not a strong point by you.

I had my doubts about taking him out but you convinced me it was the right thing to do.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:06 PM
He pitched 5 innings and he struggled. He was lucky to only give up 3 runs. There was no need to try to milk another inning out of him in a lost year. Very little good would have come from it.

Your "long relievers" comment was dumb because he's been throwing well over 100 pitches multiple times as a starter.

The end.

Nobody is "milking" the pitcher, my friend. The objective is to have him pitch deep in games. I'm sure Price had good reason to lift him here, but generally five innings and 86 pitches is a short outing that does not stretch the pitcher out.

Posters who repeatedly complain about use of young starters beyond the fifth inning are indeed seeking to have long relievers rather than true starters.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 09:07 PM
A potential Chapman v Votto matchup looms.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:08 PM
Nobody is "milking" the pitcher, my friend. The objective is to have him pitch deep in games. I'm sure Price had good reason to lift him, but generally five innings and 86 pitches is a short outing that does not stretch the pitcher out.

Castillo was typically going somewhere between 80-100 pitches, usually on the lower end, in the minors. And he was going perfectly deep into games. You don't get better by throwing 110 pitches in 6 innings, you get better when you've established yourself and still have something in the tank at 110 pitches in the 8th inning.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:08 PM
Dodgers are scouting the Reds eh? Wonder who they want...

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 09:10 PM
Dodgers are scouting the Reds eh? Wonder who they want...

Storen

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:13 PM
Castillo was typically going somewhere between 80-100 pitches, usually on the lower end, in the minors. And he was going perfectly deep into games. You don't get better by throwing 110 pitches in 6 innings, you get better when you've established yourself and still have something in the tank at 110 pitches in the 8th inning.

Castillo had 86 pitches tonight, he wasn't close to 110.

I'm sure there were good reasons, fatigue, didn't have his best stuff, but generally I'd like to see starters go more than 5 innings and 86 pitches.

reds44
07-25-2017, 09:16 PM
Castillo about to be 1-4 after 7 pretty solid starts.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:19 PM
Peraza walk!

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:21 PM
Peraza walk!

LOL, I think he's trying. The guy just can't help it, he needs to swing.

I do believe with more maturity Peraza might gain some patience.

Chip R
07-25-2017, 09:21 PM
Peraza walk!

Our long national nightmare is over!

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:21 PM
Peraza walk!

Something had to give between his and Betances' walk rates

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:26 PM
Billy drives one to the wall for an RBI double!

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luv u Zack, please grow your leg back soon

reds44
07-25-2017, 09:26 PM
I know Cozy is gimpy, but how do you not score on that?

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:27 PM
Yeah, Cozart holding at third could be the difference in the ballgame.

Hope not.

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:28 PM
If Zack is hobbled, why no pinch runner?

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:28 PM
Pinch runner Robert Stephenson lol

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 09:30 PM
Pinch runner Robert Stephenson lol

A bit late on that decision. Could have used him at first.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:30 PM
Big failure to pinch run for Cozart.

Costs in the game.

Possibly costs in the trade market.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:31 PM
Ugh

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:32 PM
That didn't look like a swing damnit

WVRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:32 PM
Price happens :)

Ironman92
07-25-2017, 09:32 PM
Not even a check at first? I hate when hp umps make that call without asking help

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2017, 09:33 PM
Price fails on so many Baseball 101 decisions. It's really amazing.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 09:33 PM
Another poor coaching decision by Price not to pinch run for Cozart.
Price is coaching on borrowed time.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:34 PM
Not even a check at first? I hate when hp umps make that call without asking help

I think he actually did check down to first

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50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:34 PM
The Reds situational hitting just doesn't cut it.

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:34 PM
Bryan's basic problem- he just lacks common sense.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:35 PM
Bryan's basic problem- he just lacks common sense.

And brain mass.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:35 PM
Bryan's basic problem- he just lacks common sense.
That's a side effect of having little baby bird brains.

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:36 PM
Yanks announcer points out that Duvall, the DH, is now in LF.

Reds have no bench left - three catcher problem.

Still, you have to use somebody to run for Cozart, anybody healthy, a pitcher, whoever.

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:36 PM
Bryan vs Girardi is like spotting these guys 3 runs.

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 09:36 PM
Sheldon saying no one for field if Cozart pinch run for. So who is playing where now since RobSteve eventually pinch ran for Cozy?

Sick of these guys covering for incompetence!

WrongVerb
07-25-2017, 09:36 PM
Lorenzen just hit 100mph?

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:36 PM
That's a side effect of having little baby bird brains.

and now the Reds have lost the DH

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 09:38 PM
George and Chris didn't mention it, but Duvall is now in LF. So the DH is eliminated for the Reds.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:39 PM
good thing Price got Kivlehan those at-bats lol

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:40 PM
If only we had halfway decent starting pitching.... something something. We'd still be lousy because Bryan would get out managed in all the close games wed be playing.

Strikes Out Looking
07-25-2017, 09:40 PM
Well on the bright side, with his leg issues, Cozart definitely not going to get the $$$$ on the FA market he thinks he is and is probably available for a Reds discount.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:40 PM
Lorenzen sure has gone downhill as the season goes on

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:41 PM
Sheldon saying no one for field if Cozart pinch run for. So who is playing where now since RobSteve eventually pinch ran for Cozy?

Sick of these guys covering for incompetence!

Don't get the argument. Aren't Gennett and Peraza playing middle infield now? Cozart wasn't needed for that.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:41 PM
I remember watching Didi have some September ABs with the Reds and thinking it was hard to imagine him ever hitting for power

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:41 PM
Is Scooter not available? Did I miss something?

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:42 PM
Is Scooter not available? Did I miss something?
He's on 2nd.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:43 PM
He's on 2nd.

Did Alcantara bite it or something?

PutPeteIn
07-25-2017, 09:44 PM
DiDi can have his homer, I'll take the Reds first triple play in 22 yrs thanks to his base running gaff!

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:44 PM
Lorenzen sure has gone downhill as the season goes on
He's been up and down. Started off good with that infamous multi-inning appearance then got knocked around to finish April. From May 1 to the ASB, he wasn't perfect (too many walks) but had a 1.93 ERA. Had that horrible outing in his first game back against Washington and then not sharp the other day against Miami.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:44 PM
Did Alcantara bite it or something?

Cozart ph for him last inning

Big Klu
07-25-2017, 09:46 PM
Is Scooter not available? Did I miss something?

Scooter is in the game at 2B after pinch-hitting for Kivlehan. Alcantara moved from 2B to LF. Cozart then PH for Alcantara. I would assume if he had stayed in the game, he would have gone to SS with Peraza moving to 2B and Gennett moving to LF. When they pinch-ran for him, it meant that Peraza and Scooter were staying put in the infield, and either a pitcher, a catcher, or the DH (Duvall) would have to go to LF.

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:47 PM
I remember watching Didi have some September ABs with the Reds and thinking it was hard to imagine him ever hitting for power

i remember thinking DiDI is the guy they're going to replace Jeter with? No way. I also am on record thinking no way O'Neil would ever be able to handle NY.
Nobody's perfect.

Wonderful Monds
07-25-2017, 09:47 PM
Scooter is in the game at 2B after pinch-hitting for Kivlehan. Alcantara moved from 2B to LF. Cozart then PH for Alcantara. I would assume if he had stayed in the game, he would have gone to SS with Peraza moving to 2B and Gennett moving to LF. When they pinch-ran for him, it meant that Peraza and Scooter were staying put in the infield, and either a pitcher, a catcher, or the DH (Duvall) would have to go to LF.

woof, guess I did miss something o__O

Kc61
07-25-2017, 09:48 PM
I'm going into draft choice mode any day now.

Nothing else to root for with this outfit.

Tom Servo
07-25-2017, 09:49 PM
Chapman didn't exactly blow em away there.

50YrRedsFan
07-25-2017, 09:49 PM
How can you win games with 3 hits? The Reds offense has fallen off the cliff.

Tony Cloninger
07-25-2017, 09:50 PM
It's typical Yankee good luck. Look the ball is something something juiced. Guys like him are not going to hit with this much power every year.

The 3 catcher BS which we have been told in a year where nothing else matters is what the problem was. Price emptied everything out and had no one to cover for Cozart. Blame that one on D Williams not Price.

Mutaman
07-25-2017, 09:50 PM
woof, guess I did miss something o__O

You and Bryan.

reds44
07-25-2017, 09:51 PM
How can you win games with 3 hits? The Reds offense has fallen off the cliff.

Yeah and the bullpen has too. We've gone from get some starters to everything is bad