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cumberlandreds
08-24-2017, 02:50 PM
Reds try to salvage a game in this series. Not a good pitching matchup to do that. Winker back in the lineup tonight.


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WrongVerb
08-24-2017, 03:01 PM
Winker vs. Arrieta ought to be a good test

StRedlegs900
08-24-2017, 04:23 PM
I'm sorry, but Hamilton at 1, with Suarez and Winker at 6 and 7 respectively just seems crazy to me.

Rantly
08-24-2017, 06:04 PM
I'm sorry, but Hamilton at 1, with Suarez and Winker at 6 and 7 respectively just seems crazy to me.

"CF bats first dude"

Red Raindog
08-24-2017, 07:12 PM
Nice frame job to K Zobrist to start


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Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 07:13 PM
Good morning, good afternoon, good night Schwarber.

Red Raindog
08-24-2017, 07:13 PM
Great start Sal


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Chip R
08-24-2017, 07:19 PM
Billy should have swung at ball 2 and he would've been on 1st

WrongVerb
08-24-2017, 07:21 PM
Billy Hatcher as a manager? Interesting. Never thought of him in that light before.

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 07:26 PM
Romano vs. Rizzo...paisan vs. paisan

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 07:27 PM
Ian Happ HR. 1-0 Baby Bears.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 07:30 PM
Billy Hatcher as a manager? Interesting. Never thought of him in that light before.

Pass. If Thom likes him, I'd rather someone else take that chance.

GADawg
08-24-2017, 07:33 PM
I hate Jake Arrieta and his stupid beard

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 07:35 PM
Thank you Thom for the labored football story.

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 07:43 PM
Sal looks solid through 3.

Please get a hit off Arrieta so I can stop thinking about his no-hitter at GABP last year.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 07:44 PM
Scooter's been a revelation at the plate but man, oh man, there are a lot of balls that go right by him. Perhaps I'm just spoiled by watching BP there for all those years.

WrongVerb
08-24-2017, 07:48 PM
Scooter's been a revelation at the plate but man, oh man, there are a lot of balls that go right by him. Perhaps I'm just spoiled by watching BP there for all those years.

He's a guy the Reds could sell high on.

mhs95_06
08-24-2017, 07:52 PM
Will Arieta complete the perfect game like Hill was worthy of last night, but got no credit, only a loss?

WrongVerb
08-24-2017, 08:08 PM
No perfect game. Error on Bryant.

mhs95_06
08-24-2017, 08:09 PM
No perfect game. Error on Bryant.

2nd night in a row a perfect game is broken up by an E5.

WrongVerb
08-24-2017, 08:10 PM
Votto singles to break up the no-hitter and score Cozart to tie it at 1-1. Votto on base game streak now at 28.

RedsfaninMT
08-24-2017, 08:21 PM
RedsZone break, or that few following anymore?

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Nobody cares, evidently.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:25 PM
RedsZone break, or that few following anymore?

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Nobody cares, evidently.

It's that time of year when a young (and old) man's interest turns to football.

Kc61
08-24-2017, 08:28 PM
He's a guy the Reds could sell high on.

The article this week projected Scooter at $5.5 million in arbitration next year. Just sayin'.

RED VAN HOT
08-24-2017, 08:32 PM
That bunt alone was enough to fire Price. The first baseman is 15 feet from home plate.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 08:33 PM
The article this week projected Scooter at $5.5 million in arbitration next year. Just sayin'.

I'm not saying keep Scooter but evidently you can't trade off everybody who.starts making a little money.

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:34 PM
Why would Price have Romano bunt when Rizzo is standing 20 feet away? Let him swing and see what happens. Not Bryan Price...what a piece of work.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 08:35 PM
That bunt alone was enough to fire Price. The first baseman is 15 feet from home plate.

Don't bunt it in trap Sal.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:43 PM
You don't throw Baez a fastball.

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:44 PM
You don't throw Baez a fastball.


I suppose Price is calling pitches.

reds44
08-24-2017, 08:44 PM
I'd give Sal the 7th

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:45 PM
Nice game for Sal.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:49 PM
I suppose Price is calling pitches.

I've heard the catchers call their own games. But that should be in the scouting report with a bullet. Barnhart should know better.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:51 PM
How many times, Lord?

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 08:51 PM
Cozart has to score on that play

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:52 PM
Duvall kind of a black hole right now.

reds44
08-24-2017, 08:52 PM
Cozart has to score on that play

He's on a bum leg. Sending him was mind numbingly dumb

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:53 PM
Cozart has to score on that play

He was limping slightly and not running all out.

Kc61
08-24-2017, 08:53 PM
Can't send Cozart there. Reds announcers making it seem like the relay of the century.

Have to know your runner. Should have held him. I cringed when I saw Zack heading home.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:54 PM
He's on a bum leg. Sending him was mind numbingly dumb

You could see him coming around 3rd. Looked like he was running in mud.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 08:55 PM
To paraphrase Seinfeld about Hatcher, "And you want to be my manager?"

Fil3232
08-24-2017, 08:55 PM
Votto singles to break up the no-hitter and score Cozart to tie it at 1-1. Votto on base game streak now at 28.

Also, in 27/28 of those games he's reached base two or more times. Since that particular streak ended at 20 last week, he's started a current 7 game streak.

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 08:57 PM
When will jojo concede he was wrong about Eugenio Suarez?

50YrRedsFan
08-24-2017, 08:58 PM
decisions made by the coaches and/or manager can definitely be just head shaking.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 08:59 PM
decisions made by the coaches and/or manager can definitely be just head shaking.

If cozart is hurt he shouldn't be playing

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:00 PM
Lefty coming in for the Cubs. Does Winker hit?

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:02 PM
How can you not sure that inning? Horrible baseball

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:03 PM
Before commercial Thom was so sure Price would take Winker down. Afterwards he was all like Price will let him hit against lefties.

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:13 PM
If cozart is hurt he shouldn't be playing

Huh? He's the best offensive SS in baseball and one of the best defenders but because he can't run you don't want him playing?

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:14 PM
Great job Sal!

Kc61
08-24-2017, 09:16 PM
Nice game for Romano. Good progress.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:16 PM
Huh? He's the best offensive SS in baseball and one of the best defenders but because he can't run you don't want him playing?

Your right it's just watching 3 years of bad baseball that keeps edgy definitely should have scored that inning

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:16 PM
At least Sal has shown flashes. Hopefully he finishes strong this year and locks down a rotation spot for 18

RiverRat13
08-24-2017, 09:17 PM
When will jojo concede he was wrong about Eugenio Suarez?

You know that answer.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:19 PM
At least Sal has shown flashes. Hopefully he finishes strong this year and locks down a rotation spot for 18

He pitched very well tonight. He was using that change up more. Price was getting on his rear about not using it a few weeks ago.

WVRedsFan
08-24-2017, 09:23 PM
Maybe Sal is one of those who will blossom at the MLB level, but looking over his MiLB record, I don't see anything to get excited about. Hope his last two starts are the real deal.

Strikes Out Looking
08-24-2017, 09:23 PM
So it appears that Ramona, BobSteve and Castillo are finishing fairly strong. That's some progress.

Red Raindog
08-24-2017, 09:24 PM
More weak contact from Billy
Painful to watch him try to hit much of the time


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Raisor
08-24-2017, 09:26 PM
Huh? He's the best offensive SS in baseball and one of the best defenders but because he can't run you don't want him playing?

He's also not long for the team and you've been begging for Peraza to play more

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:26 PM
More weak contact from Billy
Painful to watch him try to hit much of the time


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And Price continues to hit him leadoff!

WVRedsFan
08-24-2017, 09:27 PM
And Price continues to hit him leadoff!

But, if he gets on base...you know the rest of that sentence.

Indymoon
08-24-2017, 09:27 PM
Why doesn't Price sub Lorenzen for Hamilton and put Schebler in CF?

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:28 PM
And Price continues to hit him leadoff!
It's like Price has all Dusty's bad qualities and none of his good ones.

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:35 PM
Nothing but off speed stuff to Baez and he strikes out.

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:36 PM
He's also not long for the team and you've been begging for Peraza to play more
That literally has nothing to do with what we were talking about lol

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 09:37 PM
Maybe Sal is one of those who will blossom at the MLB level, but looking over his MiLB record, I don't see anything to get excited about. Hope his last two starts are the real deal.
That's why you look at his talent level and not just his numbers (which look good from AA on).

GADawg
08-24-2017, 09:38 PM
Does Baez waive dramatically to the bench when he whiffs too? If I were pitching I'd waive to my bench when I struck him out

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:40 PM
Maybe Sal is one of those who will blossom at the MLB level, but looking over his MiLB record, I don't see anything to get excited about. Hope his last two starts are the real deal.

Yes because no successful pitcher ever struggled when he first got up to the majors

WVRedsFan
08-24-2017, 09:43 PM
Yes because no successful pitcher ever struggled when he first got up to the majorsThat's what I was driving at. Thanks.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:43 PM
Why was Winker taken out?

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:45 PM
Jose!!!

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 09:46 PM
Why was Winker taken out?
Bryan Price is obsessed with double switches.

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Jose Havoc!

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:46 PM
Bryan Price is obsessed with double switches.

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Jose Havoc!

He really is dusty if you took away all of dusty's redeeming qualities

Indymoon
08-24-2017, 09:46 PM
Schebler is better defensively. But why not put Schebler in CF and sit Hamilton who made the last out in the 7th?

GADawg
08-24-2017, 09:47 PM
Peraza!!! I'm so sorry for all the crap I've thrown at you!!!! Tonight I mean

Red Raindog
08-24-2017, 09:47 PM
Don't think that was hit that well


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Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:49 PM
Cubs are self destructing and I love it.

Norse1978
08-24-2017, 09:49 PM
Don't think that was hit that well


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Great job Jose!

GADawg
08-24-2017, 09:50 PM
Don't think that was hit that well


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Jose has been sandbagging all year and finally drew the outfielders in where he wanted them

reds44
08-24-2017, 09:51 PM
Scheb's shoulder must still hurt

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Scheb's shoulder must still hurt

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Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Boy, I'm not sure where ball 2 & 3 were.

Strikes Out Looking
08-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Scheb's shoulder must still hurt

No, if it did, they'd have him play shortstop but tell him not to throw.

mhs95_06
08-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Why was Winker taken out?

Gave up two spots in the batting order to have better outfield defense.

Ironman92
08-24-2017, 09:54 PM
Just caught up to live tv....if they can hold on this will be an excellent team win.

I thought Arrieta looked to have his no hit stuff.

Still need 3 outs though

Ironman92
08-24-2017, 09:54 PM
Scheb's shoulder must still hurt

Had some wild swings that AB

Rantly
08-24-2017, 09:56 PM
Jose has been sandbagging all year and finally drew the outfielders in where he wanted them

Yet Billy would have caught that easily

Ironman92
08-24-2017, 09:57 PM
Tucker is awesome

Raisor
08-24-2017, 09:57 PM
That literally has nothing to do with what we were talking about lol

It literally does.

Playing Cozart at this point doesn't make sense, even if he's the leagues best offensive SS

Roy Tucker
08-24-2017, 09:57 PM
Wooo!!!!

Chip R
08-24-2017, 09:58 PM
LOL Cubs.

Tom Servo
08-24-2017, 09:58 PM
We're good again! :beerme:

Red Raindog
08-24-2017, 09:58 PM
Never get tired12772


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Rantly
08-24-2017, 09:58 PM
Nice Tucker!

Chip R
08-24-2017, 10:00 PM
It literally does.

Playing Cozart at this point doesn't make sense, even if he's the leagues best offensive SS

Welk, you don't make sense!

UPRedsFan
08-24-2017, 10:00 PM
Yet Billy would have caught that easily
You mean Schebler would have caught it

mhs95_06
08-24-2017, 10:01 PM
I think Avila must have missed the sign for the hit and run!

Rantly
08-24-2017, 10:01 PM
It literally does.

Playing Cozart at this point doesn't make sense, even if he's the leagues best offensive SS

:confused:

Ironman92
08-24-2017, 10:03 PM
Reds remain undefeated on the season in games they outscored their opponent.

Rantly
08-24-2017, 10:03 PM
You mean Schebler would have caught it

Probably not

Raisor
08-24-2017, 10:05 PM
:confused:

Cozart isn't going to be here next season.

Time to let either Suarez or Peraza play short full time

Roy Tucker
08-24-2017, 10:06 PM
Cozart isn't going to be here next season.

Time to let either Suarez or Peraza play short full time

It's the drive for 70 wins.

Rantly
08-24-2017, 10:07 PM
Cozart isn't going to be here next season.

Time to let either Suarez or Peraza play short full time

So you are saying Cozart should just ride the pine the rest of the year?

Boston Red
08-24-2017, 10:11 PM
Cozart isn't going to be here next season.

Time to let either Suarez or Peraza play short full time

You have to try to win games with playoff implications.

Raisor
08-24-2017, 10:40 PM
So you are saying Cozart should just ride the pine the rest of the year?

Play him until the waiver trade deadline passes. If a trade doesn't happen move Suarez to short.

Big Klu
08-24-2017, 10:43 PM
RedsZone break, or that few following anymore?

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Nobody cares, evidently.

I missed tonight's game, as we had our inaugural induction to our local athletic hall of fame, and I was presenting the first inductee.

Big Klu
08-24-2017, 10:49 PM
After reading tonight's game thread and recap on Gameday, tonight's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Jose Peraza, who delivered a two-run PH double with two outs in the bottom of the 8th inning to drive in the tying and go-ahead runs.

Big Klu
08-24-2017, 10:53 PM
On pace for 68-94.

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08-24-2017, 11:00 PM
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Sea Ray
08-25-2017, 09:04 AM
To paraphrase Seinfeld about Hatcher, "And you want to be my manager?"

Up until recently I thought Hatcher was doing a good job as 3B coach. Lately his decisions have been terrible. No way can you let the first out occur at home plate. None. We all know Cozart is running on one leg. You can't send him in that situation unless it's a no brainer. This one's all on Hatcher

redsmetz
08-25-2017, 09:36 AM
Only the third win I've seen at the ballpark this year and my wife's first.

Fun little pre-game thing, there was a group of women on the field, all former players from the women's league in the 40's and 50's, probably about twenty of them. As they introduced each, they showed a photo of each of them in their playing day. They're in town for some sort of event. Two of the players did the first pitch and it went well. I loved it.

Chip R
08-25-2017, 09:37 AM
Up until recently I thought Hatcher was doing a good job as 3B coach. Lately his decisions have been terrible. No way can you let the first out occur at home plate. None. We all know Cozart is running on one leg. You can't send him in that situation unless it's a no brainer. This one's all on Hatcher

It's funny but the ones who get nailed at home are usually the guys who are hurt or are catchers. If someone like Scooter was running it's probably a good decision.

redsmetz
08-25-2017, 09:52 AM
I'm going to play disagree about the Cozart play at the plate. Since I never saw a replay at the ballpark of the play, but watching it now, it confirmed what I thought I saw last night. Cozart, while not being the fastest runner presently, was running fine, except there was a slight hitch after he rounded third (didn't look like hurting, but just something that seemed to be a change in his stride. The play was bang-bang, perfect relay and perfect throw to the plate and Baez got the tag in just right ahead of Zack getting his hand on the plate. Sure you'd love to have that run and, in the end, we didn't need it, but I think even in his present condition, I'd send him. They required and absolutely perfectly executed play to get him out and the Cubs did that. Kudos to them. Glad we didn't need the run.

Sea Ray
08-25-2017, 10:28 AM
I'm going to play disagree about the Cozart play at the plate. Since I never saw a replay at the ballpark of the play, but watching it now, it confirmed what I thought I saw last night. Cozart, while not being the fastest runner presently, was running fine, except there was a slight hitch after he rounded third (didn't look like hurting, but just something that seemed to be a change in his stride. The play was bang-bang, perfect relay and perfect throw to the plate and Baez got the tag in just right ahead of Zack getting his hand on the plate. Sure you'd love to have that run and, in the end, we didn't need it, but I think even in his present condition, I'd send him. They required and absolutely perfectly executed play to get him out and the Cubs did that. Kudos to them. Glad we didn't need the run.

I agree that it was bang, bang and that Baez not only put a perfect and strong throw to home plate, his pivot was incredibly quick. He was lightning fast taking the ball from LF and throwing it to the C. So again, a perfectly executed play resulted in Cozart getting thrown out in a photo finish. If a perfect defense throws him out then he should NOT have been sent 'cause:

1) 0 outs
2) heart of the lineup coming (#4 hitter due up next)
3) Gimpy runner
4) one run game

I was listening to the game in my car. As I heard the play develop I was thinking "they'd better not send Cozart unless he can make it easily". So I really didn't want them to send him. But when I heard he was being sent I thought "he'd better make it or else it's still another screw up for a team full of them recently."