8/30/2017 Reds vs Mets Part Two

[cumberlandreds]

Ervin gets a start in CF. Hopefully they will give a good long look in CF and see if he is in the plans for 2018.


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[lollipopcurve]

Good. About time Ervin got another start. Really glad it's in CF too.

[cumberlandreds]

This is Joe Morgan night in the FSO booth. He will along for the first three innings. We can always hope he stays and Thom leaves after the third.

[klw]

Is Winker hurt? Not whining but wondering if I missed something?

[Tom Servo]

Is Winker hurt? Not whining but wondering if I missed something?
Yes, you missed him going on the DL with a hip strain. Sounds like the Reds are going to take it slow with him according to an update today.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114751-Chad-Wallach-and-Phillip-Ervin-recalled-from-AAA-Winker-to-the-DL

[klw]

Yes, you missed him going on the DL with a hip strain. Sounds like the Reds are going to take it slow with him according to an update today.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114751-Chad-Wallach-and-Phillip-Ervin-recalled-from-AAA-Winker-to-the-DL

Thanks, I have been at a conference and not following things as closely.

[Red Raindog]

0-2 pitch ends up as a double to start

Groan


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[Big Klu]

I thought that double by Reyes should have been caught.

[Red Raindog]

I thought that double by Reyes should have been caught.

Thought the same until I remembered Hamilton wasn't there


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[JaxRed]

I thought that double by Reyes should have been caught.

I just went back and watched it. Have to disagree. (but not vehemently)

[WrongVerb]

Thom and Joe dissing the moneyball approach to baseball. Because you gotta bunt and let that game clock wind down (in other words, give up an out).

OBP is what matters. We all know this. There's a finite number of places for players to land on the bases. And an infinite number of times players can get on base provided nobody makes an out. So making outs is what kills the opportunity to score runs. It's shocking to me how many people, hall of famers even, can't get this through their heads.

[Tom Servo]

lol I thought Homer might get through a 1st inning without giving up a run, what a dope

[Red Raindog]

And bad Homer is on the mound in the first inning 2 runs in - so far


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[Tom Servo]

This is a glorified AAA team, Homer.

[WrongVerb]

I just went back and watched it. Have to disagree. (but not vehemently)

Ervin didn't take a great route there. I think Hamilton gets to it.

[JaxRed]

Boy, just when you think Homer is getting it together....

[Raisor]

Thom and Joe dissing the moneyball approach to baseball. Because you gotta bunt and let that game clock wind down (in other words, give up an out).



I have not missed Joe the analysit

[Big Klu]

Not a fan of the Mets cap with the gray "NY" logo. It just doesn't look right.

[JaxRed]

Not a fan of the Mets cap with the gray "NY" logo. It just doesn't look right.

I agree but then I think the Mets color schemes are all ugly.

[BCubb2003]

In one of the games, Joe was talking about RBI, I think, and started out talking old school, but by the end was espousing a SABR-sounding approach. I think at heart he knows this modern stuff, but for some reason bristles at the us and them, and reps the old school.

[Big Klu]

I agree but then I think the Mets color schemes are all ugly.

I don't mind the blue and orange, especially due to the historical context of it.

Remember that Mets brought National League baseball back to the Big Apple after a four-year absence. They took the blue from the Brooklyn Dodgers and the orange from the New York Giants. The stylized "NY" logo is also the old Giants logo.

[JaxRed]

As he was tracking that one, I was saying "Ervin better catch that one". I think he'll be adequate at CF. Much more worried about him hitting enough.

[WildcatFan]

Just came here to ask who is getting suspended for throwing inside? These broadcasts are 3 hours of "baseball used to be better."

[Tom Servo]

I can't see Nimmo without thinking about the hilarious "Nimmo sucks" followed by "What, they didn't even get Nimmo?" response last year to the Bruce trade.

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As he was tracking that one, I was saying "Ervin better catch that one". I think he'll be adequate at CF. Much more worried about him hitting enough.
womp womp

[WrongVerb]

Just came here to ask who is getting suspended for throwing inside? These broadcasts are 3 hours of "baseball used to be better."

Mrs. Verb is a Giants fan (hush, Raisor!) so we watch a lot of those games. Between John Miller, Krukow, and Kuiper, it's really refreshing compared to the "Duvall ought to bunt more" and "RBI good, OBP bad" crap we get night after night on the Reds telecast.

[Chip R]

As he was tracking that one, I was saying "Ervin better catch that one". I think he'll be adequate at CF. Much more worried about him hitting enough.

Ah, well.

[Big Klu]

Another ball in CF that should have been caught. And then an E8.

And I like Ervin.

[WrongVerb]

Ah, well.

I think the Reds are finding out that Ervin needs a lot of work in CF.

Duvall on the other hand, really ought to win the GG this year.

[Raisor]

Mrs. Verb is a Giants fan (hush, Raisor!) so we watch a lot of those games. Between John Miller, Krukow, and Kuiper, it's really refreshing compared to the "Duvall ought to bunt more" and "RBI good, OBP bad" crap we get night after night on the Reds telecast.

#stallion
#traitor

[WrongVerb]

#stallion
#traitor

I said hush! :p

[Tom Servo]

Phillip you don't know when your next start will be, you should probably at least go down swinging in these ABs.

[WrongVerb]

Athletes are getting back into baseball because parents aren't letting their kids play football anymore. It's a trend that's going to continue until football figures out how to keep the players from getting CTE.

[Raisor]

Phillip you don't know when your next start will be, you should probably at least go down swinging in these ABs.

I'm starting tomorrow (and it's one l)

[Tom Servo]

This announce booth is unlistenable lol

[klw]

This announce booth is unlistenable lol

that made my ears hurt. Votto walking is good. You would think Joe Morgan of all people would articulate that.

[WrongVerb]

Joe Morgan logic:

"If I hadn't walked 1900 times in addition to my 2500 hits for a total of 4400 times on base, I could have had 3000 hits and gotten on base 3000 times total."

[The Operator]

Lol Joey

[The Operator]

Joe Morgan logic:

"If I hadn't walked 1900 times in addition to my 2500 hits for a total of 4400 times on base, I could have had 3000 hits and gotten on base 3000 times total."
Sometimes it's like Joe has no idea what it really was that made him great.

[The Operator]

Scooter GIDP, threat erased.

[klw]

Morgan made a lot more sense that last inning. I think he was articulating that he missed the swinging in the first inning but did note his appreciation for the style. The thing is: Votto's 5 walk game was exciting and a thing of beauty.

[BCubb2003]

In 2018 they expanded the strike zone because of "On-Basin' Joey Votto."

[kaldaniels]

Joe Morgan logic:

"If I hadn't walked 1900 times in addition to my 2500 hits for a total of 4400 times on base, I could have had 3000 hits and gotten on base 3000 times total."

And the kicker is he ended his whole diatribe with "now I'm not asking Votto to change his approach."

Thom is rubbing off on Joe.

[Red Raindog]

Athletes are getting back into baseball because parents aren't letting their kids play football anymore. It's a trend that's going to continue until football figures out how to keep the players from getting CTE.

Yup

My 8th grade grandson got a concussion & whiplash last night in his football game

The giant by the ref is who he was to block - the big kid did nothing wrong - shoved my grandson and he tripped backwards over the quarterback- grandson is the center

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[Tom Servo]

Suarez picked off, Thom is pissed.

[Raisor]

Thom is rubbing off on Joe.

Family board

[kaldaniels]

Suarez picked off, Thom is pissed.

It was ugly. I feel like I've seen that before with him.

[Tom Servo]

It was ugly. I feel like I've seen that before with him.
A few months ago he was wandering off third base and got thrown out by Yadier Molina.

If Price wants to pull Suarez for it, that's fine. But the announcer's personal disgust is always going to get under my nerves.

[Mutaman]

Darling, after Reyes gets thrown out at third and Suarez is picked off first: "There's a reason these two teams have these kinds of records".

[BCubb2003]

Suarez is a hard worker. He'll probably become a great base runner.

[kaldaniels]

A few months ago he was wandering off third base and got thrown out by Yadier Molina.

If Price wants to pull Suarez for it, that's fine. But the announcer's personal disgust is always going to get under my nerves.

That's exactly the one.

Pay attention Geno.

[Norse1978]

A few months ago he was wandering off third base and got thrown out by Yadier Molina.

If Price wants to pull Suarez for it, that's fine. But the announcer's personal disgust is always going to get under my nerves.

Yet for some reason the ownership loves keeping Thom.

[Kingspoint]

So, what is this 7-game series,...battle for the #3 pick?

[kaldaniels]

I'm enjoying watching Homer tonight.

Maybe, just maybe he gets it back by next year.

[Banshee]

Sr VP of Dragons‏ @thecvail 22m22 minutes ago
Wick Terrell
Morgan had a 16.5% walk rate

Votto has a 16.2% walk rate

[Chip R]

Darling, after Reyes gets thrown out at third and Suarez is picked off first: "There's a reason these two teams have these kinds of records".

He's not wrong.

[Chip R]

Yet for some reason the ownership loves keeping Thom.

What do you think Marty's reaction would be if his son got fired?

[Wonderful Monds]

Adleman got bullpenned or whatever? Keeping up with whatever the rotation is at this point is hard.

[Raisor]

What do you think Marty's reaction would be if his son got fired?

Maybe he'd get so mad he'd quit

[SteelSD]

What do you think Marty's reaction would be if his son got fired?

He'd spend 20 minutes blaming Joey Votto for taking too many walks.

So basically, I'd expect Marty's reaction to mirror one of his normal game broadcasts.

[WVRedsFan]

Adleman looking good in relief lately.

[Big Klu]

What do you think Marty's reaction would be if his son got fired?

Let's find out!

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[Wonderful Monds]

"Post game faith concert", Cincinnati is so damn corny lol

[Big Klu]

Darling, after Reyes gets thrown out at third and Suarez is picked off first: "There's a reason these two teams have these kinds of records".

Who are you calling, "Darling", Sweetheart?

[Chip R]

Who are you calling, "Darling", Sweetheart?

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[Tom Servo]

Microwave worked well tonight.

[Wonderful Monds]

What is Thom complaining about here

[Tom Servo]

What is Thom complaining about here
It's impossible to say.

[Big Klu]

What is Thom complaining about here

The on-deck circle.

He says the on-deck circle is the stupidest thing in baseball.

I say the stupidest thing in baseball is THom Brennaman.

[kaldaniels]

I mean Dylan Bundy threw a dominant one-hitter last night.

Montero is very close to one-hitting the Reds.

But they aren't even close to the same thing.

[Tom Servo]

Thom just became President of the Rafael Montero fan club.

[Raisor]

The on-deck circle.

He says the on-deck circle is the stupidest thing in baseball.

I say the stupidest thing in baseball is THom Brennaman.

Adrian Beltre thinks Thom is dumb

[Powel Crosley]

Some New Yorker got really excited at that fly out.

[kaldaniels]

I'm watching on mute and they keep going to the dugout shot of Montero.

I'm so glad I'm watching on mute.

[Big Klu]

Excellent relief outing by Tim Adleman tonight.

[Ironman92]

Montero has been tremendous, haven't seen many better this year vs Reds.

I enjoyed Joe Morgan in the booth and glad he is still sharp.

[kaldaniels]

Nice AB by Philip.

[Tom Servo]

I'm sure Thom and the Cowboy won't look silly at all in retrospect fawning over Montero when it's 2019 and he's on his third team toiling in Triple A Toledo.

[kaldaniels]

Now we've got us a stew....

[Mutaman]

Who's this Ervin guy?

[Wonderful Monds]

Walk off grand slam lets do it

[Raisor]

Now we've got us a stew....

I blue myself

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[Big Klu]

That sucks for Montero. The Mets had him give the intentional walk, so if the Reds come back and win in this inning, he gets the loss.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How is Ramos' rocking stretch motion legal???

[Wonderful Monds]

Scooter is bad actually

[BluegrassRedleg]

What a pitch. Oh well.

[WVRedsFan]

2-0 Mets Final

[Tom Servo]

lame

[Mutaman]

Well at least Bryan has learned to pinch run for Cozart.

[Powel Crosley]

Of course the one night the bullpen is good, we can't score any runs.

[Raisor]

Of course the one night the bullpen is good, we can't score any runs.

Speak for yourself

[Mutaman]

Darling said that Ramos wouldn't give in and he didn't, throwing the breaking ball on 3-2. If scooter had taken ball four it would have been interesting.

[Big Klu]

Tonight's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Mets RHP Rafael Montero, who pitched 8⅓ innings allowing no runs on 3 hits with 8 K's to get the win.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 68-94.

[Sea Ray]

I was at the game. What a stinker to sit and watch that. We made Montero look like an ace. One hit through 8 innings. The 9th was exciting but that was it. The tickets were given to me and they were great seats. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. Oh well. As far as I'm concerned, football season starts tomorrow and given the Reds position baseball takes a back seat until Spring Training

[WrongVerb]

I blue myself

Family board!

[cumberlandreds]

Joe Morgan logic:

"If I hadn't walked 1900 times in addition to my 2500 hits for a total of 4400 times on base, I could have had 3000 hits and gotten on base 3000 times total."

I understand where Morgan was coming from with all of this about less walks would equal more hits but I don't agree with him about it. For one thing if someone like Morgan or Votto swung more they would be swinging at pitches outside their comfort zone not mention outside the strike zone. IMO this would only equal a minimal amount of more hits. I highly doubt it would have got Morgan to 3000 hits.
Still it was good to hear Morgan in the booth. He's still much more refreshing that than bag of wind named Thom.

[WrongVerb]

I understand where Morgan was coming from with all of this about less walks would equal more hits but I don't agree with him about it. For one thing if someone like Morgan or Votto swung more they would be swinging at pitches outside their comfort zone not mention outside the strike zone. IMO this would only equal a minimal amount of more hits. I highly doubt it would have got Morgan to 3000 hits.
Still it was good to hear Morgan in the booth. He's still much more refreshing that than bag of wind named Thom.

Oh I know but I was headed out the door and didn't have time to really parse that out. But you're right -- if major league pitchers know you'll swing at borderline balls, why would they throw you anything anywhere close to the middle of the plate?