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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 10:12 AM
This is a 12:35 start today. Last start of the season for Castillo. Gennett gets rewarded for his three run homer last night by getting the day off. No FSO broadcast today, it's only available through the Brewers telecast.


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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 12:39 PM
I see there is unbounded excitement and anticipation for this game.

Neil "The Red Killer" Walker has homered in the first inning.

WrongVerb
09-06-2017, 12:41 PM
The Reds aren't on FSO today, so I'm watching the MIL broadcast.

Remember yesterday how Thom and Chris were slobbering over Counsell bunting twice? Well, the MIL announcers just painted that in a different light, suggesting it was something Counsell resorted to, out of frustration out of the MIL offense having trouble scoring runs.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 12:44 PM
A run on two hits for the Brewers in the 1st.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 12:55 PM
Marty and Kelch talking about Votto playing in every game this season. Chuckie wants to know who the backup 1st baseman would be?

Reds out in order in the 1st. 1-0 Beer Makers.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 12:58 PM
Luke Farrell has been added to the roster. I think we are at about 20 pitchers now. Price is orgasmic.

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 12:59 PM
I see there is unbounded excitement and anticipation for this game.

Neil "The Red Killer" Walker has homered in the first inning.

What are we thinking, 2k fans in the stands right now?

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:00 PM
What are we thinking, 2k fans in the stands right now?

I'm listening at work. But my guess would be only family and friends of the players and coaches at this game today

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:01 PM
Brewers out in order in the 2nd. Still 1 to nil.

Hoosier Red
09-06-2017, 01:02 PM
Marty and Kelch talking about Votto playing in every game this season. Chuckie wants to know who the backup 1st baseman would be?

Reds out in order in the 1st. 1-0 Beer Makers.

Took me a second. Well played.

Banshee
09-06-2017, 01:02 PM
Castillo 5 K's through 2, just electric stuff, FB @98-99 w/ movement.

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 01:03 PM
5 K for Castillo in 2 IP in case any one cares about such stuff...

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:05 PM
5 K for Castillo in 2 IP in case any one cares about such stuff...

That's good isn't it?

Duvall with a single to start the 2nd. Suarez follows that up with a double with Duvall to third.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:08 PM
Scheb grounds out to 1st. No movement by the runners.

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 01:08 PM
Milwaukee's defense is pretty bad. Not just suffering in comparison to the Reds' excellent defense, but bad in its own right.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:11 PM
Peraza K's. Barnhart IBB. Its all up to Castillo who grounds out to SS on the first pitch. Not good.

BluegrassRedleg
09-06-2017, 01:12 PM
Schebler and Peraza. Ugh.


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KittyDuran
09-06-2017, 01:19 PM
I'm listening at work. But my guess would be only family and friends of the players and coaches at this game today

A bad day @ the ballpark beats a good day @ work! [emoji41] I'm here! [emoji75]


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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:19 PM
Brewers out in order again. Six K's for Castillo. 1-0 Brewers in the third.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:20 PM
A bad day @ the ballpark beats a good day @ work! [emoji41] I'm here! [emoji75]


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Can you give us a count of how many are there? :)

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:23 PM
Ervin pinch hitting for Hamilton. Hamilton hurt a finger in first AB, apparently.

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Ervin surprised by having to hit goes down on strikes on three pitches.

Danny Serafini
09-06-2017, 01:24 PM
I'm here too. Wow is it empty :laugh:

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:25 PM
Cozart singles setting the table for a go ahead home run by Votto. :)

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I'm here too. Wow is it empty :laugh:

The Few,the Proud, the Redszone fans!

KittyDuran
09-06-2017, 01:25 PM
Can you give us a count of how many are there? :)

Not many. The 2000 figure looks about right. The official count will be tickets sold. Mine won't count...freebies!


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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:26 PM
Votto singles and the Reds have another threat going while Marty and Kelch talk about corn rows.

WrongVerb
09-06-2017, 01:26 PM
Votto beats the shift and singles to right, with Cozart going to second. Only one out.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:27 PM
Duvall singles, Cozart scores and the game is tied.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:30 PM
A single off the pitchers glove and goes into the outfield. All runners move up a spot.

Chip R
09-06-2017, 01:31 PM
Votto singles and the Reds have another threat going while Marty and Kelch talk about corn rows.

Lemme guess. Marty's against them.

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 01:31 PM
Brewers announcers claiming it would have been a DP if Garza didn't deflect it.

I thought it was going to sneak through regardless.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:33 PM
Lemme guess. Marty's against them.

"It's not a good look for any man" Marty B.

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Ball four and a run walks in. 2-1 Reds and still a big threat going.

Ron Madden
09-06-2017, 01:33 PM
2-1 Reds!

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 01:34 PM
"It's not a good look for any man" Marty B.

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Ball four and a run walks in. 2-1 Reds and still a big threat going.

Not poufy enough.

Ron Madden
09-06-2017, 01:37 PM
HAHAHA! 4-1 Reds

Banshee
09-06-2017, 01:37 PM
As mentioned, wow is the Brew Crew's D bad.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:37 PM
Fielders choice and a bad throw to first gets two runs in. 4-1 Reds.

BluegrassRedleg
09-06-2017, 01:37 PM
Thank goodness Peraza has one skill.


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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:39 PM
Garza being replaced after all of that.

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Thank goodness Peraza has one skill.


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And what would that be? :)

BluegrassRedleg
09-06-2017, 01:40 PM
Garza being replaced after all of that.

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And what would that be? :)

He can scoot, I'll give him that.


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Chip R
09-06-2017, 01:40 PM
Lord knows I'd hate to see the Cubs win the division but this Brewers team is lousy on defense and has a bad bullpen. Both things are huge red flags in the postseason.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:40 PM
Brent Suter into the game. No relation to Bruce. One less T in his name.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:42 PM
In case you are scoring at home, the error was charged to the 1B on the Peraza play.

Peraza steals 2nd as we speak.

Banshee
09-06-2017, 01:43 PM
Garza being replaced after all of that.

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And what would that be? :)

I agree, not like he actually got hit around hard, just bad D and worse luck. Good that he's gone.

BluegrassRedleg
09-06-2017, 01:43 PM
Good inning for our RZ crew to cheer at the ballpark.


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cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:43 PM
Barnhart singles in a run and is thrown out at 2nd. But a good inning for the Reds, 5-1 after three.

ScotlandRed
09-06-2017, 01:46 PM
Nit picking but a bit sloppy from Barnhart which leaves the pitcher leading off next inning.

Ron Madden
09-06-2017, 01:49 PM
The Kid is missin' some bats today!

8 K's already

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 01:49 PM
One of the most amazing sideline interviews ever.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:49 PM
Another easy inning for Castillo. Ten in a row set down. 5-1 Reds in the 4th.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 01:50 PM
I love Luis Castillo.

Ron Madden
09-06-2017, 01:51 PM
I love Luis Castillo.

ME TOO!

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:52 PM
Ervin with a one out single.

Then promptly steals 2nd.

Ron Madden
09-06-2017, 01:52 PM
Base Hit for Ervin!

And a stolen base

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 01:55 PM
Votto IBB that prompts a pitching change.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:01 PM
Duvall K's to end the Reds 4th. 5-1 Reds.

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 02:03 PM
Billy Hamilton to have an MRI. It must be September.

VR
09-06-2017, 02:04 PM
Billy Hamilton to have an MRI. It must be September.

How did he hurt it?

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 02:05 PM
Hurt his thumb while bunting, hit by the ball.

Banshee
09-06-2017, 02:09 PM
Kid looks like a young Pedro, can't wait to see him pitch more next year.

medford
09-06-2017, 02:12 PM
How did he hurt it?

He's got two, just rub some dirt on it kid.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:13 PM
9 K's for Castillo as we go to the bottom of the 5th. 5-1 Reds.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:13 PM
Kid's been impressive as hell.

BCubb2003
09-06-2017, 02:15 PM
How come dynamic pricing isn't in effect for these games? Just bring everyone down to the front row.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:15 PM
Kid's been impressive as hell.

Welcome back. Glad you survived the hurricane. Hope all is well with you.

reds44
09-06-2017, 02:18 PM
Feel like getting swept by the reds while in a playoff race is less than ideal tbh

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:21 PM
Welcome back. Glad you survived the hurricane. Hope all is well with you.

Just got the internet and cable working today. I'm greeted with live Reds baseball on MLB network. That'll work.

We stayed in the house throughout it all. We got about a foot of water in the house. Me and my oldest daughter moved most of the furniture out to the curb after the water receeded. My mom was curious what it looked like so I posted a few pics on facebook so she could see it. Within minutes, my coworkers from Bankers Life started calling to volunteer to help. This past friday 20 coworkers showed up and pulled carpet, drywall and the rest of the furniture. All 3 cars got flooded/destroyed too. So we've been stranded here at home. I got a call last night from my brother who lives in Goodyear AZ that he wanted to help so he bought his wife's cousin's 2010 Honda Oddessy for 5000$ and the cousin is driving it down to us next week from Tulsa OK. The amount of generosity is overwhelming. Spent the past week dealing with insurance adjusters and FEMA. It'll be a long process but the house is now dry and mostly smell-free. We're not in a flood plain so nobody in my subdivision has flood insurance. Simply devastating. But damnit, I'm keeping my sense of humor and positive outlook no matter what. :O)

Btw...missed you fellas. :thumbup:

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:21 PM
Reds out in order in the 5th. 5-1 Redlegs

Banshee
09-06-2017, 02:29 PM
That's an Eeee-Z 6 for Castillo.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:31 PM
Can't seem to upload pics for some reason. Lots of pics on my facebook page though.

https://www.facebook.com/chuck.pliske/photos_all

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:34 PM
Reds out in order again. 5-1 Reds after six.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:37 PM
Castillo back out for the 7th. He's at 84 pitches.

1st batter grounds out. 15 of the last 16 set down.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:39 PM
Career high 10 K's for Castillo!

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:39 PM
kkkkkkkkkk

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:39 PM
Another easy inning for Castillo!

Castillo at 94 pitches. Will they bring him back for one more inning?

Banshee
09-06-2017, 02:40 PM
Awesome job by Castillo. Now get him out of there, bon voyage, have a nice offseason, don't go boating, wrap yourself in bubblewrap etc, etc..

The Operator
09-06-2017, 02:40 PM
94 pitches after 7.

Think they try and squeeze an 8th inning out of him?

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:42 PM
Castillo through seven at 94 pitches.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 02:42 PM
94 pitches after 7.

Think they try and squeeze an 8th inning out of him?
I wouldn't hate it. THIS is dominating, not what Homer Bailey was doing the other day

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:43 PM
HR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cozie!!!!!!!!

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:43 PM
COZY! :jump:

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:44 PM
I wouldn't hate it. THIS is dominating, not what Homer Bailey was doing the other day

It has been an easy 94 pitches. Not a lot of stress in this game. I would bring him back out.

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:45 PM
Price is going to want to sweep the Brewers.

Bad for draft position, but good for team morale.

So I think Castillo pitches the eighth.

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:47 PM
I wouldn't hate it. THIS is dominating, not what Homer Bailey was doing the other day

The point was not whether Bailey was dominating.

The Operator
09-06-2017, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't hate it. THIS is dominating, not what Homer Bailey was doing the other day

Right. If he's cruising I can get on board. What I hate is when a guy has been laboring, walking guys and Bryan tries to get one extra inning.

It's his last start of the year (I think), I'd let him go the 8th on a short leash.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:48 PM
Hader just blew Votto away. Impressive

ScotlandRed
09-06-2017, 02:49 PM
Hader just blew Votto away. Impressive

That was a nice sequence. Made Votto look human.

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:50 PM
6-1 Reds after seven.

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:52 PM
Brewers have some tough relievers. Reds need more of those.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:53 PM
Castillo out again for the 8th. I approve

cumberlandreds
09-06-2017, 02:53 PM
Shackleford in. So Castillo's season is done. Nice way to end the season!

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 02:53 PM
The point was not whether Bailey was dominating.
The point was to blow the game and his successful outing in order to get Homer to a mythical point of readiness for 2018, I know.

Chip R
09-06-2017, 02:54 PM
I wouldn't hate it. THIS is dominating, not what Homer Bailey was doing the other day

Bob was dominating last night and as soon as the 7th rolled around you and a few others were screaming for Price to take him out of there before he even gave up a hit. Going by your logic, Castillo should have been out of there after 6.

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:55 PM
The point was to blow the game and his successful outing in order to get Homer to a mythical point of readiness for 2018, I know.

No, the point was that Bailey had six low stress, relatively easy innings and only 77 pitches thrown. Not that he was dominant.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 02:56 PM
Bob was dominating last night and as soon as the 7th rolled around you and a few others were screaming for Price to take him out of there before he even gave up a hit. Going by your logic, Castillo should have been out of there after 6.
Bob was impressive but he wasn't dominating.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 02:58 PM
Shackleford in. So Castillo's season is done. Nice way to end the season!

Is my game delayed or something? I still have Castillo on the hill with 2 outs.

Castillo thru 8. Helluva game kid!

Kc61
09-06-2017, 02:59 PM
Is my game delayed or something? I still have Castillo on the hill with 2 outs.

Castillo is still pitching on my feed.

The Operator
09-06-2017, 02:59 PM
Bob was dominating last night and as soon as the 7th rolled around you and a few others were screaming for Price to take him out of there before he even gave up a hit. Going by your logic, Castillo should have been out of there after 6.

Bob is much improved but walking 5 guys, including the pitcher twice - isn't dominating.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 03:00 PM
Is my game delayed or something? I still have Castillo on the hill with 2 outs.
Unless Shack suddenly started looking a lot more like Castillo, that's still Luis in there.

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Allowed a single but nothing else, 8th inning ends on pitch 111. Well done, Luis.

The Operator
09-06-2017, 03:00 PM
My box score shows Luis finished the 8th.

8 IP, 4 H, 0 BB, 0 R, 10 K

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 03:01 PM
Done with 8 and over 100 pitches. I'd say he's done. But the kid was still hitting 99 that inning. :thumbup:

Chip R
09-06-2017, 03:01 PM
Bob was impressive but he wasn't dominating.

That depends on your definition of domination. The Brewers scored more off Castillo than they did off Bob for 6 innings. Why not take Castillo out after 6 just in case the Brewers happened to score again and shatter his confidence?

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 03:01 PM
My box score shows Luis finished the 8th.

8 IP, 4 H, 0 BB, 0 R, 10 K

1 run. Dinger by Neil Walker who wouldn't even exist if his dad had gotten on that plane.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 03:04 PM
That depends on your definition of domination. The Brewers scored more off Castillo than they did off Bob for 6 innings. Why not take Castillo out after 6 just in case the Brewers happened to score again and shatter his confidence?
Who said Bob's confidence or worries that he'll be "shattered" had anything to do with it? He gave you 6 really good but not perfect innings on 90-something pitches. Call it a day for the kid.

Kc61
09-06-2017, 03:05 PM
Very good starting pitching for the Reds this series against a good offensive team.

Mitri
09-06-2017, 03:05 PM
Brewers have some tough relievers. Reds need more of those.

Hader is like the Brewer version of Cody Reed. We'll have that in our bullpen once they give up on Reed as a starter.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 03:05 PM
JOSE!! :jump:

Chip R
09-06-2017, 03:07 PM
Who said Bob's confidence or worries that he'll be "shattered" had anything to do with it? He gave you 6 really good but not perfect innings on 90-something pitches. Call it a day for the kid.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695632&viewfull=1#post3695632

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695628&viewfull=1#post3695628

Kc61
09-06-2017, 03:08 PM
Stephenson had a high leverage outing. He pitched out of a bases loaded no out jam, and other jams.

I thought Price erred in sending him out for the seventh.

But it's really silly to keep arguing this, we all know that Price likes to push the starters a bit. He sees utility in stretching them out an extra inning. Some agree, some don't.

I do think the bullpen is now pretty weak and that has a role in it. But basically that's his philosophy and he was re-hired, so it's a futile debate.

The Operator
09-06-2017, 03:10 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695632&viewfull=1#post3695632

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695628&viewfull=1#post3695628
Perhaps confidence was the wrong word but you're pushing your luck by bringing back a guy on 92 pitches who has walked 5 batters.

When a guy is on full cruise control like Castillo, that's one thing. Bob had a nice game but on cruise control he was not.

Until he progresses a little further, I'm gonna get him out of there in last night's situation every time.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 03:11 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695632&viewfull=1#post3695632

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?114817-Tues-9-5-17-Brewers-Reds&p=3695628&viewfull=1#post3695628
lol are you using my meme in an argument, c'mon Chip

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 03:12 PM
1 run. Dinger by Neil Walker who wouldn't even exist if his dad had gotten on that plane.

Oh Sir Charles...awfully dark of you there...:laugh:

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 03:15 PM
Oh Sir Charles...awfully dark of you there...:laugh:

;) Did you not see the interview with Neil's dad earlier? Pretty cool interview and insights of the final day of Clemente.

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 03:16 PM
;) Did you not see the interview with Neil's dad earlier? Pretty cool interview and insights of the final day of Clemente.

Yeah I had no idea about that. Good interview.

KittyDuran
09-06-2017, 03:19 PM
Pizza!


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Kc61
09-06-2017, 03:19 PM
Shackleford had some tough outings earlier, but he's been good of late. Has a K in the ninth, let's see how he does with Braun.

Tapper back to the mound, one out to go for a sweep.

And it's complete.

kaldaniels
09-06-2017, 03:23 PM
You know the last few years at the end of the year we'd have some guys (or the staff in general) where we could say "you know what if ____ takes the next step we could have something here."

But it's different this year. We've had a great stretch of starts and actually seeing what the next step looks like. I'm not sold that Mahle, Romano and Stephenson are rotation locks...but we are onto something here.

Now don't rain on my parade.

_Sir_Charles_
09-06-2017, 03:23 PM
SWEEEEEEP! I needed that. :O) First time in a while where I got to sit and do notadamnedthing for a few hours. *grin*

The Operator
09-06-2017, 03:25 PM
You know the last few years at the end of the year we'd have some guys (or the staff in general) where we could say "you know what if ____ takes the next step we could have something here."

But it's different this year. We've had a great stretch of starts and actually seeing what the next step looks like. I'm not sold that Mahle, Romano and Stephenson are rotation locks...but we are onto something here.

Now don't rain on my parade.
Now we just need to wrap them in bubble wrap for the winter.

Chip R
09-06-2017, 03:33 PM
lol are you using my meme in an argument, c'mon Chip

You made it seem like Price was punishing him by sending him back out there for another inning.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 03:47 PM
You made it seem like Price was punishing him by sending him back out there for another inning.
Well punishing in the sense that it was likely to go poorly and you don't need to push kids so far physically. Not in some sort of "psychological damage" way.

Also I've updated my meme so "dad" says "Bryan" now, keep an eye out for it in the next few weeks. It's just a little gallows humor, not really meant to be a reasoned argument.

The Operator
09-06-2017, 03:48 PM
You made it seem like Price was punishing him by sending him back out there for another inning.
That's not at all what that was about.

The whole "lesson" meme is because Price has this theory that you don't go deeper into games by performing well and keeping your pitch count down. No, in Price's world you have to be taught how to go deeper into games.

Chip R
09-06-2017, 04:26 PM
That's not at all what that was about.

The whole "lesson" meme is because Price has this theory that you don't go deeper into games by performing well and keeping your pitch count down. No, in Price's world you have to be taught how to go deeper into games.

All Price was trying to do was get Stephenson as far into the game as possible. The bullpen's been pitching a lot of innings and they ended up using Iggy for 2 innings. I suppose if Price had taken Bob out after 6 and the bullpen blew the game that would be Price's fault too. I guarantee you Bob wanted to go back out there for another inning. You talk about confidence. Does that help Bob's confidence if the manager continually pulls him after 6 innings no matter how well he's pitching? If his manager doesn't have confidence in him why should Bob have any in himself? Not every great start means low walks. Yeah, I'd like to see him walk fewer guys but Johnny VanderMeer pitched a no hitter and walked several guys including filling the bases in the 9th. But I suppose that wasn't a great start. Ideally I'd like to see him walk fewer batters. But I'm going to take this start and call it a great one. Fanning the side while the bases were loaded was pretty incredible.

Cooper
09-06-2017, 04:41 PM
There's something to be said for both sides --i error on taking the pitcher out early and and getting 2 things done:

1. Saving his arm
2. Making sure he feels good about what work he did. If the start blows up --he begins to question what worked and what didn't. young pitchers appear to be overwhelmed as is -if you can keep things relatively simple in his perception about what occurred -he can fall back on that. If you wait until things blow up he may not remember what worked well and then he has to find his pattern of success again. Same reason Earl Weaver wanted his starters to start in the bullpen before they became starters-- to get grounded -to get a stake in the ground.

CaiGuy
09-06-2017, 04:53 PM
I have really cringed at times (and yelled at the TV other times) when Price has seemingly pushed young starters "a little too far" this season.

But, interestingly, Castillo has always responded really well in these situations.

Tom Servo
09-06-2017, 05:28 PM
I have really cringed at times (and yelled at the TV other times) when Price has seemingly pushed young starters "a little too far" this season.

But, interestingly, Castillo has always responded really well in these situations.
To me results are only one part of it, in general I am in favor of easing kids into action. The odd thing is Price has gotten worse over time with it. As an example, Disco went over 100 pitches in 10 of his 31 starts in 2015. Castillo went over 100 pitches in 8 of his 15 starts this season. I guess this is where Price's theory that he has espoused before "we treat them soft and they still get hurt so you might as well just push them more" comes into play which, suffice to say, I think is a lousy theory. Of course you're never going to fully avoid injury no matter what precautions you take, but that doesn't mean pumping the brakes on what you are asking of them every now and then isn't worth doing.

CaiGuy
09-06-2017, 06:24 PM
To me results are only one part of it, in general I am in favor of easing kids into action. The odd thing is Price has gotten worse over time with it. As an example, Disco went over 100 pitches in 10 of his 31 starts in 2015. Castillo went over 100 pitches in 8 of his 15 starts this season. I guess this is where Price's theory that he has espoused before "we treat them soft and they still get hurt so you might as well just push them more" comes into play which, suffice to say, I think is a lousy theory. Of course you're never going to fully avoid injury no matter what precautions you take, but that doesn't mean pumping the brakes on what you are asking of them every now and then isn't worth doing.

I agree, just find it interesting. Castillo definitely seems to be on a higher plane than any other starter in the system.

Big Klu
09-06-2017, 07:26 PM
Had to work today, and then I had a late afternoon meeting that lasted until 5:30. So I missed the game, but just finished reading the game thread and Gameday.

Today's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is (obviously) Luis Castillo, who pitched 8 innings allowing 1 run on 4 hits with 10 K's and no BB's to earn the win in his final start before being shut down for the season.

Big Klu
09-06-2017, 07:29 PM
On pace for 71-91.

Big Klu
09-06-2017, 07:31 PM
Luke Farrell has been added to the roster. I think we are at about 20 pitchers now. Price is orgasmic.

Actually 19. (Unofficially 18, now that Castillo is shut down.)

Rantly
09-06-2017, 08:33 PM
On pace for 71-91.

Easy choice for SOTG today, Joe never passed on a great pitching performance.

cumberlandreds
09-07-2017, 07:11 AM
Is my game delayed or something? I still have Castillo on the hill with 2 outs.

Castillo thru 8. Helluva game kid!

I was listening to the radio broadcast and I swear Marty and Kelch both said Shackleford had entered the game. They even did a rundown of how Castillo had done that that,IIRC. Maybe I was in some kind of time warp or something? Anyway I'm glad he went 8. I watched the condensed game on MLBTV last night and he had some wicked movement on some of his pitches.

cumberlandreds
09-07-2017, 10:24 AM
I was listening to the radio broadcast and I swear Marty and Kelch both said Shackleford had entered the game. They even did a rundown of how Castillo had done that that,IIRC. Maybe I was in some kind of time warp or something? Anyway I'm glad he went 8. I watched the condensed game on MLBTV last night and he had some wicked movement on some of his pitches.

OK I went back on MLBTV and listened to the 8th inning to see if I was losing it or not. Marty and Kelch both are losing it. Both of them said Shackleford was in the game and then went to say what a good game Castillo had. You would think after a batter or two they would notice that Castillo was on the mound. It's not like he and Shack look like each other or anything. Work took me away and I couldn't listen too much more to see if they did a mea culpa for that stupid gaffe. My guess is that Marty certainly did not.
My apologies for giving out bad info but when you are depending on two idiots broadcasting a game that's what you get, bad info.

Big Klu
09-07-2017, 10:29 AM
OK I went back on MLBTV and listened to the 8th inning to see if I was losing it or not. Marty and Kelch both are losing it. Both of them said Shackleford was in the game and then went to say what a good game Castillo had. You would think after a batter or two they would notice that Castillo was on the mound. It's not like he and Shack look like each other or anything. Work took me away and I couldn't listen too much more to see if they did a mea culpa for that stupid gaffe. My guess is that Marty certainly did not.
My apologies for giving out bad info but when you are depending on two idiots broadcasting a game that's what you get, bad info.

In the 8th inning, Franchester is back on the mic, and he's certainly not giving it up.