9/8/17 Friday night Reds@ Mets

[klw]

Reds lineup Fri. vs. NYM:

Ervin 8,
Peraza 6,
Votto 3,
Duvall 7,
Gennett 4,
Suarez 5,
Schebler 9,
Barnhart 2,
Garrett LHP
'

vs
RHP Seth Lugo
http://m.mlb.com/player/607625/seth-lugo


Full Mets lineup here if you possibly care.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-mets/2017/09/08/492202#game_state=preview,game_tab=,game=492202

[CaiGuy]

Dear Price,

Don't be a loser and a dumby. Please move Suarez up to the top third of the lineup.

Your's truly,
CaiGuy

[JaxRed]

Dear Price,

Don't be a loser and a dumby. Please move Suarez up to the top third of the lineup.

Your's truly,
CaiGuy

How can you do this? Votto should bat third. Everyone agrees. And baseball rules demand that CF bats first and SS second. You cant break those kind of rules.

[JaxRed]

Very intrigued to see what Garrett gives us after his last minor league game.

[CySeymour]

The only player in this lineup with a lower OBP than Peraza is the pitcher. The only player in this lineup with a lower slugging percentage than Peraza is the pitcher.

So naturally Peraza is hitting second.

[Tom Servo]

Nimmo robs Ervin to start the game, bleh.

[JaxRed]

Ervin gets robbed to open the game....

Peraza flies out quietly

Votto seems like he just missed one and flies to semi-deep CF

[Powel Crosley]

Hopefully round two for Garrett goes much better than the first one.

[RED VAN HOT]

I guess I am looking for a FB better than 91, and improved control.

[Tom Servo]

lmao this Mets lineup

[Tom Servo]

Garrett hitting 95-96 mph

[Tom Servo]

Scooter can't get the DP turned :/

[RED VAN HOT]

Scooter can't get the DP turned :/

Looked like he had more time than he thought.

[JaxRed]

My totally amatuer take so far on Garrett is he's having trouble controlling his fastball.

[Tom Servo]

Scoreless first for Amir albeit with a walk.

[WrongVerb]

How can you do this? Votto should bat third. Everyone agrees. And baseball rules demand that CF bats first and SS second. You cant break those kind of rules.

Move Suarez back to SS. Problem solved!

[Powel Crosley]

That was a line drive homer.

[Tom Servo]

Garrett gives up a HR to some jabroni. 1-0 Mets.

[WrongVerb]

Garrett's fastball just looks so straight sometimes.

[Tom Servo]

Garrett's fastball just looks so straight sometimes.
I guess, but that was just a horrible location. At least he's showing that the "soft-tosser" charges aren't founded.

[WrongVerb]

Tucker throws out another baserunner.

Someone explain to me again why Rocko should start over him.

[Tom Servo]

Tucker throws out another baserunner.

Someone explain to me again why Rocko should start over him.
I don't think anyone is arguing right now that Mesoraco with his broken foot should be starting over Barnhart.

[WrongVerb]

I guess, but that was just a horrible location. At least he's showing that the "soft-tosser" charges aren't founded.

True, but hitters can turn around a 94-95 fastball that doesn't move or is located poorly. If Garrett has to back off to 90 in order to get those other things, this is a major issue. He's a guy I want to see the Reds trade in the offseason as part of a package to get a more established pitcher. The shine can't be off him completely yet, can it?

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I don't think anyone is arguing right now that Mesoraco with his broken foot should be starting over Barnhart.

Well, yeah. But when Mesoraco is healthy? Barnhart should still start most games IMO.

[Tom Servo]

True, but hitters can turn around a 94-95 fastball that doesn't move or is located poorly. If Garrett has to back off to 90 in order to get those other things, this is a major issue. He's a guy I want to see the Reds trade in the offseason as part of a package to get a more established pitcher. The shine can't be off him completely yet, can it?
I've never been a huge Garrett guy but I think he's somewhere in between the All-Star we saw to start the year and the trainwreck we saw after that. I'm not opposed to trading him but I'm not looking to move him just because. At the very least I think he has a nice future in the bullpen.



Well, yeah. But when Mesoraco is healthy? Barnhart should still start most games IMO.
I think he's been used just the right amount this year, they had to rely on him too much last year and he wilted.

[Tom Servo]

Reyes HR. 2-0 Mets. Another poor location.

[WrongVerb]

2001 Barry Larkin for Reyes and Ochoa? Yes, please!

[Tom Servo]

Garrett strikes out three despite the HR that inning.

[reds44]

why
does
duvall
continue
to
bat
4th

[Tom Servo]

damn Lugo has Eugenio's number tonight

[Tom Servo]

Reds leave em loaded as Scheb smokes one to the right side but it's gloved.

[Ironman92]

Nice scoop by Joey

[Tom Servo]

Scoreless 4th for Garrett. He's looked pretty good despite the HRs (although this IS a glorified AAA lineup).

[reds44]

Scoreless 4th for Garrett. He's looked pretty good despite the HRs (although this IS a glorified AAA lineup).

amir spent most of the year getting dong whipped by literal aaa lineups so we'll take it

[Tom Servo]

Amir limping around, his leg is bothering him.

I think it's his calf.

[WrongVerb]

"Candlesticks make a nice wedding gift."

[reds44]

69 pitches for Amir

[Tom Servo]

Garrett stays in and gets his 5th K, but he still looks a bit gimpy.

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69 pitches for Amir
nice

[reds44]

amir is still real bad

[Red Raindog]

another ball leaves the park off of Amir ---

[Tom Servo]

Welp, there goes the nice outing. Reyes homers again. 4-0 Mets, 3 HRs allowed by Garrett.

[Tony Cloninger]

Peraza has spent the majority of the year batting lower on the lineup when he was playing 2b and now he is always batting 2nd because he plays SS. This is the person who will be managing this team next year because it looks like lo other pitching coaches are extinct. There are no other qualified pitching coaches. They have gone the way of the rotary phone I guess. No one else can possibly do that job. So next year we get Hamilton and Peraza hitting 1/2 and then have Marty and sonny boy wondering why Votto is not driving in more runs.

So the 2 LHP in this organization telegraph their pitches because why?

[reds44]

Peraza has spent the majority of the year batting lower on the lineup when he was playing 2b and now he is always batting 2nd because he plays SS. This is the person who will be managing this team next year because it looks like lo other pitching coaches are extinct. There are no other qualified pitching coaches. They have gone the way of the rotary phone I guess. No one else can possibly do that job. So next year we get Hamilton and Peraza hitting 1/2 and then have Marty and sonny boy wondering why Votto is not driving in more runs.

So the 2 LHP in this organization telegraph their pitches because why?

Price is honestly just Dusty if you took all away Dusty's good qualities. CFers and SSs hit 1-2, dude

[Tony Cloninger]

Are we going to hear how Amir was pretty much hurt all year? Because if not what a dissapoinment this guy has been. Not hurt enough to go on DL but not quite right.

[Ironman92]

why
does
duvall
continue
to
bat
4th

OPS under .800

[Tom Servo]

Garrett ends the 5th but damage done. Disappointing outing considering the opponent but it was better than what we were seeing in June before he got sent down.


Are we going to hear how Amir was pretty much hurt all year? Because if not what a dissapoinment this guy has been. Not hurt enough to go on DL but not quite right.
I can't really fault him much, I'm not sure why the Reds threw him into the fire in the first place when he clearly had stuff still to work on in AAA.

[Tony Cloninger]

Price is honestly just Dusty if you took all away Dusty's good qualities. CFers and SSs hit 1-2, dude

Oh yeah. I have not posted on the Price thread but I quit really paying attention after he was allowed to come back. The 2 teams in this city are both scared of change. I hope people that go to Reds fest just drill Williams on his and the owners decision.

[Tony Cloninger]

I agree. Amir has stuff and needs to still be learning it in AAA. The issue of tipping pitches though of him and Reed is hard to explain how they both have this issue. Ron Darling keeps talking about it a lot.

[Tom Servo]

Cody Reed back, also taking his lumps now.

[Tom Servo]

Brain genius Bryan Price calling for an IBB down four runs to load up the bases with a guy who has problems throwing strikes.


Gets a groundball and Scooter throws home, but it's too high and the Reds get nobody. Cool.

[Powel Crosley]

Scooter :/

[Tony Cloninger]

I know Scooter is Not Phillips as defense goes but I thought he had half a brain?

[Powel Crosley]

At least they only scored one.

[Tom Servo]

Scooter redeems himself a bit to turn a lineout double play

[dougdirt]

Can someone explain to me why you come home on that play? It seemed like the easiest double play turn you're going to get.

[Ironman92]

Can someone explain to me why you come home on that play? It seemed like the easiest double play turn you're going to get.

I have to assume he didn't know there was 1 out

[kaldaniels]

I'm rooting for these youngsters but the first time back in months and both of their ERA has gone up. :bang:

Excuse me I'm wrong. Amir tonight 7.20 ERA.

[Tony Cloninger]

The pitching is barely average this series but the hitting is just non existent.

[Ironman92]

Great game. Exciting matchup

[reds44]

The pitching is barely average this series but the hitting is just non existent.

Look at the lineup construction tonight. Your worst hitters were hitting 1, 2, 4, and 8 lol. It's illogical.

[Big Klu]

I missed this one tonight. Just got home from the local HS football game. (An exciting affair--the hometown boys pulled off a 23-21 win on a safety with 1:10 left in the game.)

Just finished reading tonight's game thread and Gameday. Tonight's Joe Nuxhall Star of the Game is Mets RF Travis Taijeron, who was 2-for-4 with a double and his first major-league home run.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 70-92.

[Sea Ray]

I know Scooter is Not Phillips as defense goes but I thought he had half a brain?

As much as I like what Gennett has given us at the plate, his defense is not what I want in my middle INF on a full time basis. I wonder if the Reds brass is thinking the same thing.