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WrongVerb
11-28-2017, 06:20 PM
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2017/11/28/reds-simplifying-broadcast-booth-dont-renew-jim-kelch/903081001/
There will be one fewer voice on Reds broadcasts as the team did not renew the contract of Jim Kelch for 2018.
Kelch, 59, had been with the team since the 2010 season, serving on both radio and television broadcasts.
“Our goal is mostly to simplify, fewer people doing games,” said Karen Forgus, the Reds’ senior vice president of business operations.
Tom Servo
11-28-2017, 06:22 PM
Feel bad for him and hope he lands another gig ASAP, but I was never really a fan. He just bored me to death.
Strikes Out Looking
11-28-2017, 06:30 PM
He was fine, the problem is they've never replaced the chemistry Marty and Joe had together.
I'd really like to see a younger ex-player in the booth -- especially a minority that could add something to the broadcast.
Big Klu
11-28-2017, 06:31 PM
I like Jim, and I always thought he did a capable and professional job. But he seemed to be the forgotten man in the broadcast booth at times last year, and the emergence of Jim Day as a viable substitute on the mic may have made him expendable.
A shame really, because the ones who need a substitute the most should have been the first to be cut out of the herd. (Looking at you, THom.)
americanoutlaw1
11-28-2017, 06:33 PM
He was fine, the problem is they've never replaced the chemistry Marty and Joe had together.
I'd really like to see a younger ex-player in the booth -- especially a minority that could add something to the broadcast.
Why in the freaking world is race a factor???
Tom Servo
11-28-2017, 06:36 PM
Why in the freaking world is race a factor???
Because people from different walks of life may have different perspectives on baseball as well as different lived experiences? Calm down.
Sea Ray
11-28-2017, 06:41 PM
Feel bad for him and hope he lands another gig ASAP, but I was never really a fan. He just bored me to death.
Agreed. They need to pare down the announcers. This was a logical start
Raisor
11-28-2017, 06:42 PM
Because people from different walks of life may have different perspectives on baseball as well as different lived experiences? Calm down.
No ex cardinals.
I don't want anyone from that walk of life.
KronoRed
11-28-2017, 06:47 PM
No ex cardinals.
I don't want anyone from that walk of life.
Brantley would need to go then being an Ex-Cardinal.
Raisor
11-28-2017, 06:53 PM
Brantley would need to go then being an Ex-Cardinal.
I'm fine with that
BCubb2003
11-28-2017, 07:06 PM
So it’s Marty and Jeff, and Thom and Chris, and Jim Day if needed?
Sea Ray
11-28-2017, 07:09 PM
No ex cardinals.
I don't want anyone from that walk of life.
Steve Stewart was an ex Cardinal. He grew up in St Louis
joe51391
11-28-2017, 07:10 PM
I say Tony Perez
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That was a joke
citizen
11-28-2017, 07:24 PM
So it’s Marty and Jeff, and Thom and Chris, and Jim Day if needed?
George Grande also?
I really enjoy Kelch and Chris together. Kelch also seemed to keep Marty on track.
Sad day.
sdwagers
11-28-2017, 07:30 PM
My wish for -
Marty / Thom with Chris Welch in the Radio booth
Jim Day and Jeff Brantley on TV.
my hope is more Jim Day in the TV booth on PBP.
... please no more George Grande. And though Jim Kelch was my least favorite announcer for the Reds - I do hope he lands another gig fast. Seems like a genuinely nice guy - just to dry on the mic for me.
Steve "Bad Boy" Stewart landed on his feet as the PBP guy for the Royals Radio booth, hopefully Kelch does too.
Todd Gack
11-28-2017, 07:30 PM
Because people from different walks of life may have different perspectives on baseball as well as different lived experiences? Calm down.
Yeah. 2 white dudes could never have two different experiences in baseball. :rolleyes
BCubb2003
11-28-2017, 07:37 PM
When are they adding the “Second Inning with a RedsZoner” segment?
NeilHamburger
11-28-2017, 07:37 PM
Hope he lands on his feet, but I was never a fan. Way too bland for my tastes. It got to a point where I just wouldn't watch games he was calling.
Honestly, I like Welsh, but I wouldn't mind him being replaced either. After 25 years I feel like a new perspective in the booth might be refreshing. Bronson would be my dream for a new color guy. Outspoken, smart and can communicate well.
BCubb2003
11-28-2017, 07:40 PM
It doesn’t sound like they’re adding anyone, though.
Auzie
11-28-2017, 07:59 PM
While it Is a shame for him, I’ve never been a huge fan of him as a broadcaster. Hope he lands on his feet as he seems like a good guy.
Tom Servo
11-28-2017, 08:06 PM
Yeah. 2 white dudes could never have two different experiences in baseball. :rolleyes
They literally just got rid of their boring midwestern white guy named Jim because they already had one of those to render Kerch redundant but yeah Strikes Out Looking is the jerk for saying maybe hiring a minority would be good. Maybe take two breaths before the desire to scream “I DONT SEE RACE AND ALSO IT DOESNT MATTER” crops up.
FlightRick
11-28-2017, 08:32 PM
By next May, I probably won't even remember that Kelch is gone, but in the here and now, I'm not a fan.
When Kelch did TV, the product was noticeably better most of the time. When he did radio, the product was never worse. If the goal is simply to remove the extraneous piece(s), then OK, he's not a foundational element. But if the goal is the best product possible, there are other people (at least one of whom is WAY more expensive) who should/could have gone.
I, too, assume this means Jim Day gets a bump, and covers most/all of Kelch's PbP duties. He only rarely subbed for Cowboy on radio as a color guy, so there might be a handful of dates for somebody new there (or just more work for Doug Flynn, who actually does some national work on minor league ball on CBSSN, I think)... but more or less, it sounds more like the position as a whole has been eliminated than Kelch was removed from a position that the Reds will need to fill.
For some reason, I have memories of Kent Mercker being unreasonably hilarious in sporadic interviews/appearances, so maybe that's something, if we do need a color guy...
Raisor
11-28-2017, 08:41 PM
When Doug Flynn is on I automatically turn off the feed.
Dude is horrible.
Chip R
11-28-2017, 09:06 PM
It's too bad Kelch lost his job. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I wish they were serious about paring down the announcers but I doubt it. I hope this doesn't mean more Thom.
REDREAD
11-28-2017, 09:21 PM
Too bad they couldn't have forced Marty to retire instead.
I know Kelch was not the greatest, but he was far from the worst.
Powel Crosley
11-28-2017, 09:35 PM
Like most, I thought he was pretty boring. I don't like the constant rotation of announcers, so this is a welcomed move in my opinion.
mth123
11-28-2017, 09:38 PM
With the arrival of Jim Day, Kelch had dropped to number 3 on my list of Reds announcers behind Day and Welch. I really don't care for any of the others. This was like cutting a serviceable reliever to make room on the 40 man roster while keeping Tim Adelman (Thom).
RedTeamGo!
11-28-2017, 09:42 PM
Who knew, in the year 2017, someone suggesting diversity would trigger people. Weird times.
Roy Tucker
11-28-2017, 09:53 PM
Kelch is a pro and will land on his feet somewhere. He let you know the count and outs and who was in base and managed to not piss anyone off or say anything that got a fan's dander up. A cream of wheat Midwest modulated voice that filled the air with lots of forgettable stuff.
He was fine.
Raisor
11-28-2017, 10:06 PM
I liked Kelch.
I think Marty and Brantley are horrible together, but both are better with Kelch.
americanoutlaw1
11-28-2017, 11:29 PM
Never mind. I'm bowing out of this conversation.
marcshoe
11-29-2017, 01:03 AM
I liked Kelch.
I think Marty and Brantley are horrible together, but both are better with Kelch.
I thought Kelch was particularly good at letting Brantley talk about what he knows instead of playing up the redneck garbage. I'm a little surprised to see him go; he seemed to be a calm, steady presence.
Larry Schuler
11-29-2017, 04:11 AM
Why would you want a black or a taliban announcing for the Reds? Baseball is in English.
mth123
11-29-2017, 06:14 AM
Kelch is a pro and will land on his feet somewhere. He let you know the count and outs and who was in base and managed to not piss anyone off or say anything that got a fan's dander up. A cream of wheat Midwest modulated voice that filled the air with lots of forgettable stuff.
He was fine.
This is exactly why I liked Kelch. I like George Grande for the same reason. These guys get the basic situation out there and know when to shut-up. It's the most under-rated skill an announcer can have.
Kelch arrived from the Reds AAA affiliate and when he hit the scene he came with a lot of information about the Reds young players that never existed on the air before. He no longer really has that advantage any more. I think that drying up eliminated the one thing he really added to the broadcasts that couldn't be gotten from Brantley or Welch (we know Marty and Thom don't pay attention to that stuff beyond the cursory headline). Still, there is something to be said for doing the basics and Kelch did them on play by play better than those that remain. I'll miss him on the radio side where I can't see what is going on for myself. On the TV side at least I can watch the game to see what is happening.
Ron Madden
11-29-2017, 07:29 AM
I'd rather listen to Jim Kelch and Chris Welsh than have to hear The Cowboy, Marty or Thom.
I think Jim Day could be good with Welsh too.
cumberlandreds
11-29-2017, 08:18 AM
Well that's too bad for Kelch. As others have said he was very professional and did his job very well. He just didn't have a lot of pizzazz in his voice. That's too bad because entertainment by the announcers has become a requirement. I'm sure he will find something else on radio or TV. So we are stuck with the Brennaman's rancor and the Cowboys love of food for another season. I feel bad for the one good announcer they have, Chris Welsh. He should just go ahead and retire from all of this.
My guess is that Jim Day will have bigger role. He's OK but I think he's a better pre and post game host than PBP announcer.
Todd Gack
11-29-2017, 09:32 AM
They literally just got rid of their boring midwestern white guy named Jim because they already had one of those to render Kerch redundant but yeah Strikes Out Looking is the jerk for saying maybe hiring a minority would be good. Maybe take two breaths before the desire to scream “I DONT SEE RACE AND ALSO IT DOESNT MATTER” crops up.
Calm down Cowboy. You're the only one who wants to talk about the race of these dudes.
RedTeamGo!
11-29-2017, 09:41 AM
Calm down Cowboy. You're the only one who wants to talk about the race of these dudes.
Ok, why are you upset with a poster stating they would like to see a younger minority in the booth? What part of that bothers you?
westofyou
11-29-2017, 10:12 AM
Day is a bore, Flynn sucks. Brantley is horrible at PbP.
I hope they get Actress Rosie Perez now, just so Gack will have s breakdown
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jhc2010
11-29-2017, 10:22 AM
I just hope this doesn't mean more George Grande. I am far less likely to watch a game if Grande is on the call.
cumberlandreds
11-29-2017, 10:24 AM
I just hope this doesn't mean more George Grande. I am far less likely to watch a game if Grande is on the call.
I hope it does but it won't be. Grande is semi retired. He only does games when little Thom is doing football or on vacation.
RedTeamGo!
11-29-2017, 10:35 AM
Day is a bore, Flynn sucks. Brantley is horrible at PbP.
I hope they get Actress Rosie Perez now, just so Gack will have s breakdown
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I am personally hoping for Will Smith’s son, Jaden.
The Operator
11-29-2017, 10:50 AM
Alright guys, let's try not to let this turn into something we have to shut down or move to the Politics forum.
RedTeamGo!
11-29-2017, 10:54 AM
Alright guys, let's try not to let this turn into something we have to shut down or move to the Politics forum.
What’s controversial about wanting Jaden Smith to do the play-by-play for Reds games?
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
On a serious note: I see nothing in this thread that is innapropriate for the ORG. Someone mentioned they would like to see a younger minority replacement. Doesn’t seem political to me.
The Operator
11-29-2017, 10:56 AM
What’s controversial about wanting Jaden Smith to do the play-by-play for Reds games?
How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
On a serious note: I see nothing in this thread that is innapropriate for the ORG. Someone mentioned they would like to see a younger minority replacement. Doesn’t seem political to me.
I don't think it's inappropriate either... yet.
And for what it's worth, I agree with what most of you are saying.
Just a friendly reminder because historically these discussions go south pretty quick...
REDREAD
11-29-2017, 11:37 AM
It is kind of funny..
If people think Kelch is boring, of course that is a valid opinion, and I am not going to try to talk someone out of it.
But Marty is a "Hall of Famer".. but since Joe left, there is no booth chemistry between Marty and anyone. I agree back in the old days, Joe and Marty's friendship/chemistry was an asset.
I am talking about today.
If you took Marty and removed his constant complaining, know it all attitude, off topic talk, ignorant comments ("over half of Adam Dunn's HR are solo HR" -- he states guesses as if they are facts when he can easily look it up).. Anyhow, when you remove all that "colorful" stuff from Marty (which I think is a liability).. what do you have? You have a Jim Kelch guy that has no passion at all for his job. Kelch knew his role. Kelch did not state falsehoods. Kelch enjoyed his job and had some passion and cared about his job.
Marty thinks he is more important to the Reds than the actual players..
It is just sad that announcing, sportstalk type shows.. heck, just about all TV is being dominated by "colorful" blowhards that really do not provide any useful information, but try to make themselves the main focus.
bucksfan2
11-29-2017, 12:53 PM
I thought Kelch was a capable broadcaster but never really cared for his voice.
Brantly is a fantastic color guy, but terrible doing the PBP. They need to get rid of the inning breaks that the PBP guys take.
Marty is one of the best game callers around, when he gets on his soap box it gets old quick.
Thom is ok, don't have him like some, don't love him. Probably best suited for TV.
Welch is the best of the group, would love to see him transition to radio full time.
No thanks on Jim Day, never been a big fan, but just talks and talks and talks. Good at what he currently does.
Doug Flynn is even worse than Day in the talking aspect of things.
Strikes Out Looking
11-29-2017, 12:59 PM
Wow, I really lit a fire - didn't mean to. I just feel that maybe the Reds could try to expand their product -- a good place to start would be by having an ex-Red like say Reggie Sanders or Dmitri Young or Mario Soto in the booth once in a while. I really don't care who is broadcasting the game as long as they are good and interesting --- for what its worth, I think Brantley's the weakest link in that booth during the game.
BCubb2003
11-29-2017, 01:24 PM
Barry Larkin would be great for this, more so than manager, but he’s probably beyond that now.
maniem
11-29-2017, 01:26 PM
I thought Kelch was a capable broadcaster but never really cared for his voice.
Brantly is a fantastic color guy, but terrible doing the PBP. They need to get rid of the inning breaks that the PBP guys take.
Marty is one of the best game callers around, when he gets on his soap box it gets old quick.
Thom is ok, don't have him like some, don't love him. Probably best suited for TV.
Welch is the best of the group, would love to see him transition to radio full time.
No thanks on Jim Day, never been a big fan, but just talks and talks and talks. Good at what he currently does.
Doug Flynn is even worse than Day in the talking aspect of things.
I agree with about all of this.
Kelch was decent, just way too dry/boring.
Brantley and Welch are great color guys, but pretty bad at the PBP.
If Marty stays off his soapbox, he's still one of the best PBP guys i've ever listened to.
THom can be ok, but i feel like he tries way too hard and it doesn't come natural. There's nothing really authentic about him.
I think Day's strengths are his interviewing skills, he seems to do well interacting with the players and fans.
WrongVerb
11-29-2017, 01:33 PM
Barry Larkin would be great for this, more so than manager, but he’s probably beyond that now.
Agreed. Another one could be Sean Casey, although I wonder if he doesn't enjoy the national stage more.
bucksfan2
11-29-2017, 02:46 PM
Agreed. Another one could be Sean Casey, although I wonder if he doesn't enjoy the national stage more.
Pass on Casey. I can take him for a weekend series, but he is just a little too amp'ed up to stomach for 162.
I think the biggest disservice was when the Reds gave Marty multiple innings off in each game. Thom is really the only other PBP guy who can carry an inning. Brantly is tough to listen to when he is alone. He reminds me of the guy from Major League when describing an out he says: fly ball, out.
sdwagers
11-29-2017, 03:43 PM
Agreed. Another one could be Sean Casey, although I wonder if he doesn't enjoy the national stage more.
Love Casey. Met him and he's a genuinely nice guy.
... but even so - he'd be talking about crushing Skyline and Taco Bell just like Cowboy does UDF.
Pass on Casey. I can take him for a weekend series, but he is just a little too amp'ed up to stomach for 162.
Amen to that! Like Sean, but the guy needs to be on sedatives, Ritalin, or something (LOL)
Brantly is tough to listen to when he is alone.
Jeff knows pitchers and FOOD (and not necessarily in that order)
Unassisted
11-29-2017, 04:22 PM
How about Bronson Arroyo? I have no idea if he's interested or if he'd be good at it, but he knows pitching and has spent time in other clubhouses. His on-field experience is definitely more contemporary than Brantley's.
Rantly
11-29-2017, 04:55 PM
A lot of you are suggesting replacements who would be color analyst (Bronson, Casey etc.). With Kelch gone that leaves a PBP void. Also with Marty doing less and less in the booth (pregame and post game), I assume they will replace Kelch with a new PBP guy this year...unless that person is Jim Day.
Chip R
11-29-2017, 04:58 PM
How about Bronson Arroyo? I have no idea if he's interested or if he'd be good at it, but he knows pitching and has spent time in other clubhouses. His on-field experience is definitely more contemporary than Brantley's.
From what I've read he isn't interested in working full time. Just kind of wants to walk (or sail) the earth like Caine or Jules.
kaldaniels
11-29-2017, 05:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsEep3KVHo
Joking aside, best of luck Jim.
Tom Servo
11-29-2017, 05:01 PM
Assuming Thom isn't going anywhere, my ideal scenario would be that he takes over the radio when Marty retires and they hire someone from the outside for play-by-play on TV.
Chip R
11-29-2017, 05:09 PM
Assuming Thom isn't going anywhere, my ideal scenario would be that he takes over the radio when Marty retires and they hire someone from the outside for play-by-play on TV.
Hopefully not. The article that was posted didn't really say Thom was going to be Marty's successor. I would think that they might make him #1 play by play guy in waiting like they do with college football coaches. Maybe he'll go back to Arizona when his dad gives it up and the Reds start fresh.
dougdirt
11-29-2017, 05:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsEep3KVHo
Joking aside, best of luck Jim.
People named Dwight are enormous jerks.
Signed,
Dwight.
KronoRed
11-29-2017, 05:41 PM
I thought Kelch was particularly good at letting Brantley talk about what he knows instead of playing up the redneck garbage. I'm a little surprised to see him go; he seemed to be a calm, steady presence.
Steady and calm isn't what they are after, annoying the listener seems to be the goal.
kaldaniels
11-29-2017, 05:42 PM
I always find it weird that when turning on a Reds broadcast it’s amost like you are spinning the roulette wheel and finding out what wacky combo of broadcasters you are getting.
westofyou
11-29-2017, 05:48 PM
I always find it weird that when turning on a Reds broadcast it’s amost like you are spinning the roulette wheel and finding out what wacky combo of broadcasters you are getting.
Most of the time the roulette wheel feels like it's being spun at a Kiwanis club too as opposed to a real casino (at least by the results dealt up)
Chip R
11-29-2017, 05:50 PM
I always find it weird that when turning on a Reds broadcast it’s amost like you are spinning the roulette wheel and finding out what wacky combo of broadcasters you are getting.
I've said for the last few years they ought to get one of those wheels and put all the Reds announcers names and photos on it and then before each game on Reds Live they spin the wheel and whichever 4 guys pop up get to do the
KronoRed
11-29-2017, 06:16 PM
Assuming Thom isn't going anywhere, my ideal scenario would be that he takes over the radio when Marty retires and they hire someone from the outside for play-by-play on TV.
Or they just go simulcast, would save them some money. :cool:
Strikes Out Looking
11-29-2017, 08:21 PM
By allowing Marty to work part-time, even when he is working that game the Reds have allowed what was a great broadcast to go off the rails. For around 3 decades you pretty much knew that if you tuned into a Reds game you'd get Marty and Joe -- Marty would be working the pre-game and the 9th inning and Joe would have the star of the game show immediately after the game. Now, you don't know who you get from day to day and they spend a number of innings asking Brantley stupid trivia questions.
For years many people would turn off their tv audio and/or bring a transistor to the game to listen to Marty and Joe - in fact, they were suspended for inciting a small riot in 1988 at a game - would that happen now? (Probably not because no matter what was going on in the game, Brantley would be talking about a dish of ice cream.)
The Reds need to have two set people broadcasting most, if not all, of their games and hopefully those two people will be lactose intolerant so they can focus on the game.
americanoutlaw1
11-29-2017, 08:27 PM
Steady and calm isn't what they are after, annoying the listener seems to be the goal.
Well... At least they haven't hired Mad Dog yet
marcshoe
11-29-2017, 09:14 PM
Television: Three-man booth with Jim Day, Welsh, and Brantley.
Radio: Marty and one lucky fan who will be chosen randomly from those in attendance, either at home or on the road. If Thom wants to be in the booth, he needs to buy a ticket and pray he gets lucky.
podgejeff_
11-30-2017, 01:16 AM
I assume at this point Welsh and Thom aren't going anywhere. Welsh has been broadcasting for the Reds for 20+ years. Thom still does national broadcasts from time to time for Fox and his dad is a HOF fixture in the organization. Like Marty and George Grande, they're probably here as long as they want to be.
kaldaniels
11-30-2017, 01:56 AM
I don’t know if this is giving him too much credit but Welsh may be that ugly duckling who is actually the prom queen. I mean with a good PBP who else would be better as a color guy? He just has to go to work right now with a governor on due to his partner(s).
rls321321
11-30-2017, 08:17 PM
I'd rather listen to Jim Kelch and Chris Welsh than have to hear The Cowboy, Marty or Thom.
I think Jim Day could be good with Welsh too.
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Day & Welsh (who is the best Reds broadcaster easily) were great together. Thom is a disaster and for me he is unlistenable. Jim Day is much better than Thom. Thom spouts off a lot of right wing stuff. I am sure that makes Castellini happy.
Ron Madden
12-01-2017, 06:39 AM
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Day & Welsh (who is the best Reds broadcaster easily) were great together. Thom is a disaster and for me he is unlistenable. Jim Day is much better than Thom. Thom spouts off a lot of right wing stuff. I am sure that makes Castellini happy.
I guess Day & Welsh or Kelch and Welsh spend too much time talkin' baseball, describing what's happening with the Reds on and off the field.
When exactly did things change for the worse?
It seems nowadays people would rather hear Marty telling us about one of his good friends or griping about something and The Cowboy talkin about puttin' mayonnaise on his butter beans
sdwagers
12-01-2017, 07:57 AM
I guess Day & Welsh or Kelch and Welsh spend too much time talkin' baseball, describing what's happening with the Reds on and off the field.
When exactly did things change for the worse?
It seems nowadays people would rather hear Marty telling us about one of his good friends or griping about something and The Cowboy talkin about puttin' mayonnaise on his butter beans
I find Jim Day as the right balance of describing the play on field and being entertaining. The entertaining part is helpful when the Reds are getting beat like a rented mule for sure.
... well and if it is anything.... I did hear the Vin Scully is available ;)
bm1475
12-01-2017, 04:27 PM
Kelch was the only guy on radio who could keep Marty out of the dark place and keep Brantley under control and out of the "Cowboy" gimmick all the time. When he would fill in for one or the other the games got noticeably better. I will miss him.
Strikes Out Looking
12-01-2017, 05:22 PM
It's almost as if Reds Executives who make these decisions have never sat in their cars and listened to the broadcast for any lengthy period of time.
KronoRed
12-01-2017, 05:42 PM
It's almost as if Reds Executives who make these decisions have never sat in their cars and listened to the broadcast for any lengthy period of time.
I think that's very likely, only fans listen :evil:
Cooper
12-02-2017, 12:18 AM
Kelch is professional and calls the game. Brantley and Marty are embarrassing at this point. Some solid professionals are what is needed - they have settled for guys with "flavor" and they don't even have that.
best of the dudes announcing are: Welsh -- there's no one in the booth he can even talk sabermetrics too...except for Kelch and Day. Welsh is smart and keeps up with the most recent stats. His opinions have something behind them...... he's the smartest of all the announcers by far. Marty is so angry that he needs to find out what life would be like without a great great job. Thom has a good voice but has for some reason decided to be angry like his father....i think it makes him sound as if he has an opinion...he just sounds angry without knowledgeable opinion. Brantley is beyond terrible -when he does try to provide insight -it's cliche' and vanilla (which probably is his favorite flavor). He hasn't improved at all.
Big Klu
12-02-2017, 09:38 AM
Kelch is professional and calls the game. Brantley and Marty are embarrassing at this point. Some solid professionals are what is needed - they have settled for guys with "flavor" and they don't even have that.
best of the dudes announcing are: Welsh -- there's no one in the booth he can even talk sabermetrics too...except for Kelch and Day. Welsh is smart and keeps up with the most recent stats. His opinions have something behind them...... he's the smartest of all the announcers by far. Marty is so angry that he needs to find out what life would be like without a great great job. Thom has a good voice but has for some reason decided to be angry like his father....i think it makes him sound as if he has an opinion...he just sounds angry without knowledgeable opinion. Brantley is beyond terrible -when he does try to provide insight -it's cliche' and vanilla (which probably is his favorite flavor). He hasn't improved at all.
No, I think his favorite flavor is mint chocolate chip.
NeilHamburger
12-02-2017, 02:04 PM
I hate that the sentiment seems to be you're either bitter like Marty or boring like Kelch. You can be both entertaining and a good announcer. I'm sorry, I just don't see how any one can say Kelch was entertaining. That's what the Reds should be striving to get. And he just wasn't that. Maybe if you like watching CSPAN at 3 AM you find Kelch entertaining.
I'd love for the Reds to find a young announcer like Skip Caray to be the new lead guy. To me, he was the perfect mix. I want someone to say, "the bases are loaded, and so are the announcers".
mth123
12-02-2017, 04:16 PM
For me, the game is the entertaining part. The announcer is supposed to be informative. Compared to the others, Kelch was pretty informative. Instead of being a bitter old man who drove us away from listening or a blathering fool like his son, he mostly just told us what was going on during the game with a few informative anecdotes mixed in. Isn't that all we really want? Vin Scully had that same general style and is basically considered the best ever. There wasn't tons of emotion in his voice and he didn't fill up the air with inanities just so he could hear himself talk. If you weren't a baseball fan and didn't know he was the best ever ahead of time, you'd call him pretty boring too IMO.
NeilHamburger
12-02-2017, 04:30 PM
I mainly liked Vin Scully because of the amazing stories he could tell. Now, this was mainly due to him being in the game forever, and having knowledge of all the old timers. If Scully just came up today I may have not liked him near as much since he wouldn't have had those stories. I can't say for sure, as obviously I don't think any of us on here were around when he started.
A more modern example of what I would want would be Len Kasper. He is a good announcer, but also has a certain charisma about him that makes him entertaining to listen to. Kelch is like listening to Ben Stein read an economics book while downing NyQuil.
Ironman92
12-02-2017, 06:36 PM
Kelch a good guy and knows what he’s doing but he’s very very meh
JFLegal
12-05-2017, 12:53 PM
They started using Joe Morgan in cameo roles last year on Reds’ TV broadcasts. I wonder if he might be more involved now.
cumberlandreds
12-05-2017, 02:20 PM
They started using Joe Morgan in cameo roles last year on Reds’ TV broadcasts. I wonder if he might be more involved now.
No, he is still not in good health. I don't think he could stand up to a long season of games. He may be around for a few games like last season but that will most likely be the max.
kaldaniels
12-06-2017, 10:22 AM
No, he is still not in good health. I don't think he could stand up to a long season of games. He may be around for a few games like last season but that will most likely be the max.
How about a weekly segment, “Letters from Joe”?
Chip R
12-06-2017, 11:21 AM
How about a weekly segment, “Letters from Joe”?
Oh boy. We could have a lot of fun with that. :D
CrackerJack
12-16-2017, 02:16 AM
A good move. Lord knows how long we'll have to tolerate Brantley's never-ending obsession with ice cream and "saw-sage."
BCubb2003
12-20-2017, 06:53 PM
Jim Day is officially part of the Reds radio broadcasts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reds/status/943603701188583424/photo/2
Ron Madden
12-20-2017, 07:08 PM
Popular Jim Day added to Cincinnati Reds radio broadcast team
The Reds announced Day would be covering play-by-play duties when Marty Brennaman was off and would join Brennaman in the booth when Jeff Brantley is television coverage. Day will also continue to contribute to the pregame and post-game coverage for radio on those days.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/popular-jim-day-added-cincinnati-reds-radio-broadcast-team/4NdDetObT4SshdzdU6Z7fM/
Roy Tucker
12-21-2017, 12:13 PM
I like Jim Day. He gives you the game facts with a competent PBP, has a normal person ego, and doesn't take himself too gawd-awful seriously.
A welcome change of pace from the Brennamans.
Chip R
12-21-2017, 01:45 PM
I like Jim Day. He gives you the game facts with a competent PBP, has a normal person ego, and doesn't take himself too gawd-awful seriously.
A welcome change of pace from the Brennamans.
One wonders if he is the heir apparent.
membengal
12-21-2017, 03:48 PM
Reds Clue:
It was Jim Day, in the media elevator, with a microphone cord...
757690
12-21-2017, 03:53 PM
One wonders if he is the heir apparent.
Definitely not the hair apparent.
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This is one case where the expression, "couldn't have happened to a nicer guy" is 100% true.
redsrule2500
12-28-2017, 11:39 AM
Does anyone remember Jim Day doing a long "Goodbye/Thanks for the memories" segment a couple years back at the end of the season?
What was that about?!
kaldaniels
12-28-2017, 05:22 PM
Does anyone remember Jim Day doing a long "Goodbye/Thanks for the memories" segment a couple years back at the end of the season?
What was that about?!
Yeah I think it was at the end of 2016. Said something of the sort on Twitter and was asked about it but omninously never clairified it. But he’s still here...
KronoRed
12-28-2017, 06:30 PM
Thought he was getting fired when took a lower salary to stay maybe?
kaldaniels
12-28-2017, 07:45 PM
I love Jim Day but I fear he doesn’t have the immeasurable announcing “chops.”
traderumor
12-29-2017, 12:00 PM
Definitely not the hair apparent.
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This is one case where the expression, "couldn't have happened to a nicer guy" is 100% true.
Marty doing the Donald first. Too bad he didn’t have it copyrighted.
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sdwagers
12-29-2017, 02:36 PM
Marty doing the Donald first. Too bad he didn’t have it copyrighted.
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but he did use "poofy haired fancy boy" a bunch before he shave his head.
WrongVerb
02-21-2018, 12:27 PM
Sam LeCure to join the broadcast team for a handful of games this season (https://twitter.com/mrLeCure/status/966327906954723328):
Sam LeCureVerified account @mrLeCure
In some #news, I annoyed the people who make these decisions enough to invite me to do some #reds games on @FOXSportsOH pre/post game, as well as sit in the radio booth with Marty for a handful and do some commentary.
10:05 AM - 21 Feb 2018
CySeymour
02-22-2018, 01:23 PM
Sam has got to be better than Doug Flynn
westofyou
02-22-2018, 01:31 PM
The Reds approach to their broadcasting team is befuddling, they throw more crap against the wall than a 2 year old
camisadelgolf
02-22-2018, 03:25 PM
I'm not joking when I say that Sam LeCure joining the booth has me more excited than anything else the Reds did this off-season.
KronoRed
02-22-2018, 06:51 PM
Actually broadcasting the game must rank pretty low on the list of priorities.
BillDoran
02-22-2018, 07:43 PM
If the Reds were as creative in player management as they are in fielding broadcast teams, we'd be competitive.
757690
02-23-2018, 12:22 AM
I could see LeCure be as annoying as Sean Casey or as knowledgeable as Jeff Brantley, or both.
Strikes Out Looking
02-23-2018, 09:25 AM
I could see LeCure be as annoying as Sean Casey or as knowledgeable as Jeff Brantley, or both.
All I really want to know is his thoughts on ice cream. Hopefully, he's anti-
Unassisted
02-23-2018, 10:49 AM
The Reds approach to their broadcasting team is befuddling, they throw more crap against the wall than a 2 year old
The root cause seems to be having so many core broadcasters who can't (or choose not to) work 162 games. I see the same thing happen with my favorite NBA team, which has a color commentator who doesn't travel to cold-weather cities and a play-by-play guy who takes a few road trips off during the season. Do other MLB teams have this issue?
wlf WV
02-23-2018, 11:13 AM
It is kind of funny..
If people think Kelch is boring, of course that is a valid opinion, and I am not going to try to talk someone out of it.
But Marty is a "Hall of Famer".. but since Joe left, there is no booth chemistry between Marty and anyone. I agree back in the old days, Joe and Marty's friendship/chemistry was an asset.
I am talking about today.
If you took Marty and removed his constant complaining, know it all attitude, off topic talk, ignorant comments ("over half of Adam Dunn's HR are solo HR" -- he states guesses as if they are facts when he can easily look it up).. Anyhow, when you remove all that "colorful" stuff from Marty (which I think is a liability).. what do you have? You have a Jim Kelch guy that has no passion at all for his job. Kelch knew his role. Kelch did not state falsehoods. Kelch enjoyed his job and had some passion and cared about his job.
Marty thinks he is more important to the Reds than the actual players..
It is just sad that announcing, sportstalk type shows.. heck, just about all TV is being dominated by "colorful" blowhards that really do not provide any useful information, but try to make themselves the main focus.
Yep
919191
02-24-2018, 03:09 AM
Sam has got to be better than Doug Flynn
Flynn is terrible. This is just a skill he doesn't have. He is a former big leaguer and has referred on the broadcast to runs as points
membengal
02-27-2018, 04:08 PM
Day on the mic today on the game call with Marty, btw, for those who are able to listen. The initial banter as the game gets underway was smooth.
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