4/28/18 Reds @ Twins

[NebraskaRed]

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[cumberlandreds]

Suddenly Peraza doesn't look too bad hitting 2nd. Maybe he's coming around. The last ten days or so he's been good at the plate.

Votto is back into another world. That's a good thing for all of us Reds fans.

[BillDoran]

Really like Hamilton in the 9-hole with no pitcher in front of him. I would think Hamilton roaming CF has to be really enticing for an AL team. With less concern about hiding batters, he seems more valuable.

[mth123]

Winker and Schebler should switch positions on the field.

[RedTeamGo!]

Winker and Schebler should switch positions on the field.

That is a head scratcher. The only reasoning I can think of is this is a lost season, might as well get Winker as many defensive reps as possible.

[Ironman92]

Go Reds

[NebraskaRed]

Reds go 1-2-3 in the first.

If last night's game taught us anything, it's that the first inning of the game definitely tells you who's going to win or lose.

[NebraskaRed]

Twins fail to score 5 runs in the first, so now who knows what will happen

[Tadasimha]

A very different start from last night

[Tom Servo]

He's not great but Odorizzi would have been a good acquisition for the Reds imo, he only cost the Twins a C level prospect.

[NebraskaRed]

Schebler!

[Reds Fanatic]

Schebler homers!

[Tom Servo]

Scheb! :jump:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Got every bit of that one.


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[RedTeamGo!]

Scheb-man gonna give it to ya

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

I swear everytime i see a schebler ab its a homerun or a grounder to second

[Tom Servo]

Nice recovery by Scooter

[BluegrassRedleg]

Scooter hangs in there tough on kinda the same play he couldn’t make the other night against ATL.


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[Ironman92]

For god sakes smh

[NebraskaRed]

Billy saves everyone some time and gets himself out.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How Hamilton still can’t bunt after this many years in the league is really sad.


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[Tom Servo]

Thom, I couldn't care less who is calling Twins and Tigers games.

[Big Klu]

Yes THom, you should definitely look into finding a job somewhere else.

Maybe you could do both Cubs and D-Backs games.

[NebraskaRed]

does Thom know what the warning track is?

[InsaneinthBrame]

Watching Twins broadcast I thought they had a nice promotional night coming up. Scrubs night

[Tom Servo]

Who the hell is Mitch Garver

[Big Klu]

Who the hell is Mitch Garver

Evidently the guy who made Stuart Turner expendable.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yes THom, you should definitely look into finding a job somewhere else.

Maybe you could do both Cubs and D-Backs games.

BigKlu wins the internet today! [emoji106]


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[Big Klu]

BigKlu wins the internet today! [emoji106]


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:thumbup:

[Tom Servo]

can't walk that guy, Sal

[BluegrassRedleg]

can't walk that guy, Sal

In his defense, that was one sweet pitch. Not sure how it didn’t get called a strike.


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[Big Klu]

So why was THom talking about Braves OF Ronald Acuña while Twins SS Ehire Adriana was batting?

Oh wait, never mind. It's THom....

[JaxRed]

Big out here.....

Got' em....

[NebraskaRed]

lot of pitches, but no damage done

[Reds Fanatic]

Peraza reaches on a good bunt

[Big Klu]

Peraza with a bunt single! :thumbup:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Jim Day [emoji95] on Thom.


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[Red Raindog]

Thom, I couldn't care less who is calling Twins and Tigers games.

I think Thom is auditioning for every possible broadcasting job -- hope he gets one somewhere

[Big Klu]

I think Thom is auditioning for every possible broadcasting job -- hope he gets one somewhere

He should stick to NFL football, because that's where his passion is.

[Ironman92]

Winker can rake...but stinks in RF

[Tom Servo]

Tie game

[ochoa30]

Umpire giving Sal no help on the inside comeback fastballs

[Tom Servo]

Fear of Billy's arm

[Big Klu]

Steve Finley reference! Everybody drinks!

[Tom Servo]

Not so much fear of Winker's arm,

[Big Klu]

Winker did not set up very well on that throw to the plate. He was throwing flat-footed.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Winker looks like he’s never been coached on how to line up a fly ball with his momentum moving forward for the throw. He’s always moving backward or flat-footed. Makes his weak arm even more glaring.


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[757690]

Brantley ripping into Winker for his fundamentals.

[ochoa30]

Winker did not set up very well on that throw to the plate. He was throwing flat-footed.

He'd probably drop the ball anyhow

[Big Klu]

Brantley ripping into Winker for his fundamentals.

Chris also commented on lack of basic fundamentals.

[RedTeamGo!]

I just really don’t get why Winker isn’t in LF every day. Duvall sucks.

[NebraskaRed]

70-something pitches in the 4th inning is especially not good after last night

[JaxRed]

ESPN does not show an error on Winker......

[ochoa30]

Winker is who he is. Hopefully he finds his way to left permanently where he belongs and can improve somewhat out there. Schebler should have been out there today. Makes no sense to me why he isn't.

[Big Klu]

Two runs score in the inning, but only 1 ER.

[Ironman92]

Poor footwork by Winker

[JaxRed]

ESPN does not show an error on Winker......

Now they do...

[Big Klu]

I just really don’t get why Winker isn’t in LF every day. Duvall sucks.


Winker is who he is. Hopefully he finds his way to left permanently where he belongs and can improve somewhat out there. Schebler should have been out there today. Makes no sense to me why he isn't.

In an AL ballpark, Winker should be the DH. Both Duvall and Schebler should be in the OF.

[Ironman92]

Winker is who he is. Hopefully he finds his way to left permanently where he belongs and can improve somewhat out there. Schebler should have been out there today. Makes no sense to me why he isn't.

I can live with not great range but zero reason he can’t have the proper footwork and catch the ball in position to throw. Really not hard at all.

[Ron Madden]

Brantley ripping into Winker for his fundamentals.

Marty, Thom and Jeff get all over any Red that makes an error, sometimes griping about it for innings.

But when Scooter makes one neither one of'em says a word.

[ochoa30]

Odorizzi has some underwhelming stuff but he still gets swings and misses. Hopefully Sal is paying attention. Needs to go up the latter way more often with his fastball.

[RedTeamGo!]

Marty, Thom and Jeff get all over any Red that makes an error, sometimes griping about it for innings.

But when Scooter makes one neither one of'em says a word.

Scooter is from Cincinnati and I guarantee he aligns perfectly with Marty, Thom, and Jeff if you get what I’m saying.

[JaxRed]

I could handle a Mez long ball here....

[InsaneinthBrame]

In an AL ballpark, Winker should be the DH. Both Duvall and Schebler should be in the OF.

I completely agree. I do not understand Winker in the field and Schebler at DH.

[Big Klu]

I can live with not great range but zero reason he can’t have the proper footwork and catch the ball in position to throw. Really not hard at all.

Proper footwork and positioning (i.e., fundamentals) should be expected, especially for a player who is supposedly a natural outfielder. It shouldn't matter if he is in LF or RF (or CF, for that matter).

[Tom Servo]

I could handle a Mez long ball here....
damn close

[Ron Madden]

I could handle a Mez long ball here....

I thought he had one there.

[JaxRed]

damn close

I thought I called it for a second...

[Ironman92]

Marty, Thom and Jeff get all over any Red that makes an error, sometimes griping about it for innings.

But when Scooter makes one neither one of'em says a word.

In fairness they never did when Phillips did, in fact they would often allude to the number of incredible plays he had made.

An error is an error, they are all different types and some bigger than others and some tougher than others.

Basically though, Scooter and Winker are not good on defense.

Also, Welsh is always harder on the younger player and gives more leeway to the older player. I’ve noticed that the last few years

[JaxRed]

Cmon Billy... Don't K

[Big Klu]

I completely agree. I do not understand Winker in the field and Schebler at DH.

The only reasons I can think of would be if the Reds had played a long stretch of games, and Schebler needed a day off but they wanted to keep his bat in the lineup. Or maybe Scott wasn't feeling well.

[Tom Servo]

thanks Billy

[RedTeamGo!]

In an AL ballpark, Winker should be the DH. Both Duvall and Schebler should be in the OF.

That’s fine. My main point is Schebler should be in RF every day.

[Red Raindog]

Cmon Billy... Don't K

your wish is granted

[JaxRed]

your wish is granted

I set the bar too low...

[Big Klu]

THom: "PUMA!"

[RedTeamGo!]

The fact Winker just got intentionally walked, as a rookie in the 5th inning, should tell everyone griping about him why his bat needs to be in the lineup every day.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds need to find that good hitting Billy look-a-like and sneak him into the game and see if anyone notices.

His name is probably Hilly Bamilton

[Ironman92]

Pitch is one inch off plate or just caught outside edge

Thom: that ball was CENTER CUT

[Tom Servo]

Pitch is one inch off plate or just caught outside edge

Thom: that ball was CENTER CUT
lol that was great

[jredmo2]

I know I'm late but I need to express my undying love for Jim Day. The way he destroyed THom's passive-aggressive bloviating (as if it's some mystery why Votto doesn't like him) was AMAZING.

[Tom Servo]

Peraza pops up, Reds leave em loaded

[Ironman92]

The fact Winker just got intentionally walked, as a rookie in the 5th inning, should tell everyone griping about him why his bat needs to be in the lineup every day.

Or the Twins make bad decisions. Or 1st base was open and walking gave them 4 possible force outs instead of 1

[NebraskaRed]

"Peraza hit that to the warning track but...out" - Thom probably

[BluegrassRedleg]

After plating 15 yesterday, frustration was a lead-pipe lock today. Every. Time.


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[Ironman92]

Peraza pops up, Reds leave em loaded

a.k.a. (a Janish or a Heisey)

[Big Klu]

your wish is granted

Long live Jambi!

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[Tony Cloninger]

I know I'm late but I need to express my undying love for Jim Day. The way he destroyed THom's passive-aggressive bloviating (as if it's some mystery why Votto doesn't like him) was AMAZING.

Can we get a word by word of this destruction?

[Tom Servo]

Mitch freaking Garver

and this guy who can't hit at all. C'mon Sal.

[ochoa30]

Sal's not getting out of this inning

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Seems like the Reds need to be down 4 before they activate the Offense

[The Operator]

Can we get a word by word of this destruction?

Yes please! Those of us following on Gamecast while doing yard work need to know!

[RedTeamGo!]

It’s such a bummer how these young reds pitchers just can’t seem to get through the 5th.

[Tony Cloninger]

I like Sal but it’s a typical 5 inning at best start for him.

[ochoa30]

Awful baserunning benefits the reds, nice.

[Rolando]

Wow great base running by the Twins ha

[jredmo2]

Can we get a word by word of this destruction?

I'll do my best, and granted I am inferring a lot of the passive-aggressiveness. But basically Votto gave a funny interview with Day last night and Thom was belaboring the point about how great it is that Votto and Day are friends. Then they started talking about how Thom has the booth closed, and Thom says "but I still have some cool air coming in." Day: "As opposed to the hot air that's usually coming out."

[Tony Cloninger]

Yes please! Those of us following on Gamecast while doing yard work need to know!

I would just be happy with someone telling Thom to go back to Arizona and stay there if he loves it so much.

[The Operator]

It’s such a bummer how these young reds pitchers just can’t seem to get through the 5th.

It's what they get for building a rotation with 80% ultra young guys.

[Tom Servo]

Sal done after 4.2, Everyday Austin coming in.

[ochoa30]

Good move to get him out now. He was gassed. Fastball at 92 most of that inning

[Rolando]

A bad start again ugh

[Tony Cloninger]

I'll do my best, and granted I am inferring a lot of the passive-aggressiveness. But basically Votto gave a funny interview with Day last night and Thom was belaboring the point about how great it is that Votto and Day are friends. Then they started talking about how Thom has the booth closed, and Thom says "but I still have some cool air coming in." Day: "As opposed to the hot air that's usually coming out."

Thanks. I would have also taken “Thom you’re an intolerable A Hole.”

[RiverRat13]

It's what they get for building a rotation with 80% ultra young guys.

Listen. They couldn't bring in veteran guy. There just wouldn't be enough innings for the youngsters had they done so.

[Rolando]

Listen. They couldn't bring in veteran guy. There just wouldn't be enough innings for the youngsters had they done so.

This is sarcasm right?

[RiverRat13]

This is sarcasm right?

Yes. Yes it is.

[Tom Servo]

Brice gets the job done, really impressed by him of late.

[ochoa30]

How do you miss that pitch? Nice job again by Brice anyways with no help from the ump

[Tony Cloninger]

I liked the Twins teams of the mid to late 70s.

You know why I don’t like them now? They go into a fetal position every time they play the Yankees for the last 15 years.

[Rolando]

Yes. Yes it is.

Ha ok

[Ironman92]

Scooter needs to attack a bit more. His swing is getting long and slow trying to Votto it to LF

Hit it hard scooter

[Ironman92]

Or whatever lol

[The Operator]

I feel like I should qualify my earlier statement by saying that I do like all of the young Reds starters, worried as I may be about what's going on with my main man Castillo.

But what do The Reds expect when you out four of them in the rotation at the same time? Young pitchers struggle. They regularly have games where they can't go deep. Not only does this out extra pressure on the starters themselves, but this also puts a ton of pressure on an over taxed bullpen and also Bailey who probably feels like he needs to go 8 innings every time out. It's just a recipe for disaster.

I'm still high in all of them but it wouldn't have killed The Reds to hedge their bets and bring some veteran stability in to take the pressure off the guys who they are pinning the hopes of this entire rebuild on.

This is grievance #8689 that I have against this front office and ownership group.


/end rant

[Kc61]

Sal had a 5.5 K rate going into today and got 1 K in 4.2 innings.

He’s never going to be a successful starter with that.

They need to watch video of his AA season when his K rate was higher. Try and see what he was doing there.

[Tadasimha]

Come on, Schebs - tie this up

Meh

[Tom Servo]

Sal had a 5.5 K rate going into today and got 1 K in 4.2 innings.

He’s never going to be a successful starter with that.

They need to watch video of his AA season when his K rate was higher. Try and see what he was doing there.
He can live around 5.5 and go from there, that's Leake territory. It's the walks that need to go first.

[ochoa30]

Sal had a 5.5 K rate going into today and got 1 K in 4.2 innings.

He’s never going to be a successful starter with that.

They need to watch video of his AA season when his K rate was higher. Try and see what he was doing there.

Facing AA hitters is my guess. I do think he will strike out more hitters going forward however. Hoping he can get to 7 per 9 innings.

[RedTeamGo!]

Sal had a 5.5 K rate going into today and got 1 K in 4.2 innings.

He’s never going to be a successful starter with that.

They need to watch video of his AA season when his K rate was higher. Try and see what he was doing there.

Pitching against AA hitters

[Big Klu]

THom mentions St. Paul while explaining the Twins' "TC" logo.

Last night, they were talking about Target Field, and how the city skyline reminded him of the ballpark in Pittsburgh, "except they don't have a river here in Minneapolis."


Well, except for the Mississippi River, THom.

[Tadasimha]

Keep it close - i like the chances against their pen

[Kc61]

He can live around 5.5 and go from there, that's Leake territory. It's the walks that need to go first.

Disagree. The average K rate for a starter now is 8 or over. This year it’s 8.43 so far.

Sal pitching at 5.5 reduces the odds for him considerably.

[KronoRed]

THom mentions St. Paul while explaining the Twins' "TC" logo.

Last night, they were talking about Target Field, and how the city skyline reminded him of the ballpark in Pittsburgh, "except they don't have a river here in Minneapolis."


Well, except for the Mississippi River, THom.

Thom says the only real river is the Ohio River

[Ironman92]

Thom is so terrible. Could he put more energy into talking about anything beside the Reds and the game? I mean I love mentions around the league but he reaches to get the chance to bring them up.

His schtick is schterrible

[Tom Servo]

It rules that we're gonna argue forever about Winker's defense while Scooter botches three out of every four plays involving him lol

[Big Klu]

THom mentions once again that Target Field doesn't have a retractable roof.

[NebraskaRed]

THom mentions St. Paul while explaining the Twins' "TC" logo.

Last night, they were talking about Target Field, and how the city skyline reminded him of the ballpark in Pittsburgh, "except they don't have a river here in Minneapolis."


Well, except for the Mississippi River, THom.

Ah that's the Mississippi, the mighty Miss, the old miss, the old man

[RedTeamGo!]

It rules that we're gonna argue forever about Winker's defense while Scooter botches three out of every four plays involving him lol

Much of the reds fanbase like Scooter for the same reason Marty, Thom, and Jeff do. If you know what I mean.

[Tom Servo]

It also rules that the Reds announcer is forever lamenting how slow and boring the game he is calling is.

[Rantly]

It rules that we're gonna argue forever about Winker's defense while Scooter botches three out of every four plays involving him lol

Is it because Winker is part of long term plans and Scooter probably not?

[Big Klu]

THom reminds us all that he was formerly employed by the Arizona Diamondbacks, and they are celebrating their 20th anniversary this year.

And did you know they have had a lot of playoff success in those 20 years?

[Tom Servo]

Is it because Winker is part of long term plans and Scooter probably not?
It's mostly because a few people here have taken up Winker's defense as their pet issue for whatever reason, I think.

[KronoRed]

THom reminds us all that he was formerly employed by the Arizona Diamondbacks, and they are celebrating their 20th anniversary this year.

And did you know they have had a lot of playoff success in those 20 years?

You know what else they have?

A roof.

[RiverRat13]

Much of the reds fanbase like Scooter for the same reason Marty, Thom, and Jeff do. If you know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean.

[Big Klu]

You know what else they have?

A roof.

It was probably his idea, like the 6:40 game time.

[Ron Madden]

Double for Duvall

[ochoa30]

Duvall doubles after a nice at bat

[Tadasimha]

Duvall doubles after a nice at bat

He shows a little patience and good things happen. Pity hes a hacker at heart

[Big Klu]

Adam Duvall is starting to get his doubles stroke down.

[Tom Servo]

Mesoraco with an 'eat shift and die' single

[NebraskaRed]

Remember when Zach Duke pitched for the Reds?

[ochoa30]

Billy is awful, my god

[Ironman92]

Billy with a deep fly to the catcher

[Big Klu]

THom with a disgusted "Holy Moses".

[Tom Servo]

lol Thom disgusted but for once I can't blame him too much, I've had about enough of Billy

[ochoa30]

lol Thom disgusted but for once I can't blame him too much, I've had about enough of Billy

Reds need to move on so badly from him it's crazy.

[Kc61]

Hamilton seems to be getting worse as a hitter.

Twice today failed even to hit the fly ball or RBI grounder.

[ochoa30]

Rough to watch that 2 times in one game with Votto sitting in the on deck circle

[Kc61]

Should have used Blandino for Hamilton in that spot. Against a lefty.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well the non meddling owner likes him. We can’t trade him. He excites him.

[Rolando]

3 lousy at bats in a row.

[KronoRed]

Time to declare an end to the outfield rotation.

[ochoa30]

Billy not the only hitter failing today but he does it in the most pathetic ways

[Kc61]

Rough to watch that 2 times in one game with Votto sitting in the on deck circle

True, but Hamilton is the guy who needed to come through. Up with no outs, all that’s needed is a grounder or an outfield fly ball.

The guy hitting with two outs needs a two out hit which is a tougher ask.

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds + RISP= FAIL

[ochoa30]

Time to declare an end to the outfield rotation.

Until they find a center fielder we are stuck with this most likely

[Big Klu]

True, but Hamilton is the guy who needed to come through. Up with no outs, all that’s needed is a grounder or an outfield fly ball.

The guy hitting with two outs needs a two out hit which is a tougher ask.

What about the guy hitting with one out?

[Kc61]

What about the guy hitting with one out?

Well, there Winker was facing a tough lefty. Lefty/lefty matchup. He also didn’t come through but the one best situated was Hamilton.

[Big Klu]

Chris refuses to take THom's bait as to who the greatest offensive player in Reds history is.

[ochoa30]

What about the guy hitting with one out?

Exactly, plus sometimes you need to get some 2 out hits or you won't win much. Outside of Scheblers homer and Mesoraco having a nice game everyone else has been quiet.

[Tom Servo]

lol Thom's sigh

[Ironman92]

Lol

Thom not allowed to go off on Scooter

Why the extreme sidearm so extreme?

[NebraskaRed]

has anyone noticed that Scooter is not that good defensively?

[ochoa30]

Scooter has to be the worst defensive infielder in baseball. Come on man!

[Ironman92]

Thom as mad at Scooter as he was that game recap last night [emoji23]

[Rolando]

has anyone noticed that Scooter is not that good defensively?

Between Scooter and Winkers defense they have to hit 350 to have any value

[NebraskaRed]

hard to tell these pitchers to throw strikes and trust the guys behind him with Scooter and Winker back there

[Kc61]

Exactly, plus sometimes you need to get some 2 out hits or you won't win much. Outside of Scheblers homer and Mesoraco having a nice game everyone else has been quiet.

Sure, but you need to convert in the highest percentage situation.

Hamilton hitting RH v LHP, only needs a grounder or a fly ball. It’s like a lay up in basketball versus a three point shot.

A good offense converts on the high percentage play.

It’s great if others can compensate, but you need to make the lay up.

[ochoa30]

Sure, but you need to convert in the highest percentage situation.

Hamilton hitting RH v LHP, only needs a grounder or a fly ball. It’s like a lay up in basketball versus a three point shot.

A good offense converts on the high percentage play.

It’s great if others can compensate, but you need to make the lay up.

Not arguing with you just saying it's a team game. Billy is garbage so I'm just not surprised when he doesn't come through. I'm surprised the guy can make contact at all with his horrible swing mechanics tbh.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Winker is a DH/1B type that needs to be moved to an AL team

Scooter needs to be replaced by Senzel.

Neither has the bat to make up for their bad defense.

[NebraskaRed]

Floro made Rosario look like Billy

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Winker is a DH/1B type that needs to be moved to an AL team

Scooter needs to be replaced by Senzel.

Neither has the bat to make up for their bad defense.

You've seen all you need to see of Winker, hmm?

[Tom Servo]

Winker is a DH/1B type that needs to be moved to an AL team

Crazy that they've eliminated left field.

[ochoa30]

I do wonder at what point this year the reds will cut Billy's playing time drastically. How long can they sit by while the guy struggles to bat .200.

[Big Klu]

Winker is a DH/1B type that needs to be moved to an AL team

Scooter needs to be replaced by Senzel.

Neither has the bat to make up for their bad defense.

If Votto were a team player, he would be willing to move to the OF to make room for Winker at 1B.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm a fan of Dylan Floro, Bob Dylan, but not Dylan McDermott

[ochoa30]

I think Winker will be able to manage in left field fine. He will never be good but he will be ok. We will see if his bat is enough to keep him in there. Right now it most definitely is but he needs to pop a few Homer's at some point soon. The doubles are encouraging.

[Big Klu]

I'm a fan of Dylan Floro, Bob Dylan, but not Dylan McDermott

Dylan Thomas?

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Old age should burn and rave at close of day.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

[Kc61]

I think the Reds’ outfield will be revamped next off-season.

I wish there were a big hitting OF ready in the minors, but whatever, there will be changes out there.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well, there Winker was facing a tough lefty. Lefty/lefty matchup. He also didn’t come through but the one best situated was Hamilton.

Winker took a weak swing getting fooled no doubt.

Hamilton swung at a ball on the way outside corner trying to pull it.

His AB was suckier and he can at least run and try to hit it on the ground.

[NebraskaRed]

Dylan Thomas?

Do not go gently into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

can he play second base?

[Tadasimha]

Make the walk haunt, Scooter

[KronoRed]

Dylan Thomas?

Do not go gently into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

He's so unhip that when you say Dylan
He thinks you're talking about Dylan Thomas
Whoever he was
The man ain't got no culture

[Big Klu]

can he play second base?

Maybe, if you can keep him sober.

[Tadasimha]

He's so unhip that when you say Dylan
He thinks you're talking about Dylan Thomas
Whoever he was
The man ain't got no culture

A real square, man

[Ron Madden]

Damn!

[ochoa30]

Just not looking like the reds day today

[InsaneinthBrame]

Floro made Rosario look like Billy

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You've seen all you need to see of Winker, hmm?

Yes I have. To me he is the second coming of Hal Morris.

He lacks the arm/speed/power to be an outfielder.

[Tadasimha]

Well, poo

[Tom Servo]

Yes I have. To me he is the second coming of Hal Morris.

He lacks the arm/speed/power to be an outfielder.
Have fun with your Duvall and Hamilton duo then.

[Rolando]

Great base running by votto ha

[Tadasimha]

Credit to the OF there - nice catch

[Big Klu]

Yes I have. To me he is the second coming of Hal Morris.

He lacks the arm/speed/power to be an outfielder.

Hal Morris could play OF in the early part of his career. It was just that the opening in the lineup happened at 1B.

Morris was actually pencilled​ in as the Opening Day starter in LF for the Reds in 1990, until the Reds acquired Billy Hatcher a week before the season started.

[Rolando]

Have fun with your Duvall and Hamilton duo then.

It be nice if the a Reds had one outfielder who could an all around player they have done.

[NebraskaRed]

Riggleman seems to be pushing his relievers to pitch multiple innings moreso than Price did

[Big Klu]

Riggleman seems to be pushing his relievers to pitch multiple innings moreso than Price did

I like it. If the starters aren't going to go more than 5 or 6 innings, then the relievers need to be able to pitch multiple innings.

Price wanted to pitch each reliever only one inning, which was why the Reds were saddled with eight- and nine-man bullpens.

[ochoa30]

Last chance coming for the reds. Let's hope it doesn't come down to Billy freakin Hamilton

[Tom Servo]

You can watch that Votto and Morneau interview early from the Twins FS affiliate

https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/990293185107644416

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Fernando has been really bad of late.

Four pitch walk to Schebler to start.

[Ron Madden]

That'll Work

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I wish Adam wouldn't swing at everything

[ochoa30]

That'll Work

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I wish Adam wouldn't swing at everything

Did he swing at a ball in that at bat? Didnt see one

[Tom Servo]

Joel Zumaya is who Thom is thinking of

Welsh remembers


Walk to Mesoraco

[ochoa30]

Gotta make them pay for the walks

[Big Klu]

Rosell Herrera pinch-running for Mesoraco, wearing a generic red helmet with no logo.

[Tadasimha]

Barnhart PH for Hamilton

[InsaneinthBrame]

Rodney I thought he was an aarp member

[Tom Servo]

ugh, thought that was dropping in for sure. Caught by Dozier.

[ochoa30]

It's up to Jesse

[Tom Servo]

well that was disappointing, didn't imagine Winker going after the first pitch against Rodney

[Tadasimha]

D#mn, that almost dropped in

[Big Klu]

Not a good day for Winker.

[ochoa30]

This loss clearly on the offense. Couldn't get anything done today. Get em tomorrow.

[Kc61]

Good day for the team ERA.

Tough to sweep on the road. Win the series tomorrow.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 36-126.

[NebraskaRed]

Good day for the team ERA.

Tough to sweep on the road. Win the series tomorrow.

and most of the bullpen will be available tomorrow

[Tony Cloninger]

Ok so after all the talk about how Winker’s hitting needs to be really good to ovecome an average at best defense this is what he does his last 2 ABs?

[Tom Servo]

https://streamable.com/flpnw

In case you missed this one for the Thom highlight reel

[Tony Cloninger]

https://streamable.com/flpnw

In case you missed this one for the Thom highlight reel

Sweet TV Dude. Great googly moogly. Jeez.

[Umkubas]

Dylan Thomas?

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


Fire green as grass

[mth123]

I feel like I should qualify my earlier statement by saying that I do like all of the young Reds starters, worried as I may be about what's going on with my main man Castillo.

But what do The Reds expect when you out four of them in the rotation at the same time? Young pitchers struggle. They regularly have games where they can't go deep. Not only does this out extra pressure on the starters themselves, but this also puts a ton of pressure on an over taxed bullpen and also Bailey who probably feels like he needs to go 8 innings every time out. It's just a recipe for disaster.

I'm still high in all of them but it wouldn't have killed The Reds to hedge their bets and bring some veteran stability in to take the pressure off the guys who they are pinning the hopes of this entire rebuild on.

This is grievance #8689 that I have against this front office and ownership group.


/end rant

I know these game threads are yesterday's news, but I just wanted to agree with this as much as possible. It's been my primary grievance for 3 off-seasons in a row now and why I don't buy all the bad luck nonsense that I keep reading on here. This mismanagement has me so biased against the Reds front office, that I'm suspicious of every other move they make. I still think this team is being assembled and managed like it's a fantasy baseball team and not a real team that has to manage a roster with pieces that fit together over a long 162 game season.

[mth123]

It rules that we're gonna argue forever about Winker's defense while Scooter botches three out of every four plays involving him lol

I just don't understand why it's even an argument. They both suck on defense. The fact that Scooter sucks doesn't make Winker suck any less. People defend him because they like his bat abd approach. No one is arguing that and while get evaluating a guy based on his overall game, Winker's defense is a huge problem no matter how much he hits. Same with Scooter. The Reds need to get away from a roster filled with half players.

[mth123]

It's mostly because a few people here have taken up Winker's defense as their pet issue for whatever reason, I think.

People talk about it with Winker because the Reds aggravate the problem by playing him in RF (many times with Schebler in CF). When I talk about it it's not Winker I'm criticizing, it's the obviously stupid outfield rotation that sets them up for such nonsense. It all comes back to the GM playing fantasy baseball and not considering that this is a real game happening on the field.

In Gennett's case, there is nothing else to be done about it until Senzel is ready. Hopefully Gennett will be an ex-Red by the end of the year, but finding a taker may not be so easy.

[mth123]

Austin Brice and Dylan Floro are the big stars of this game. Gotta give the brain trust it's due. Floro looks like a guy who could help. Keeps the ball down, throws strikes and was hitting 94 on the gun so he's not the soft tosser I thought he was. It would be a crime if he's the odd man out when they drop back to 12 pitchers or when Lorenzen returns. Of course, the clock could strike midnight, but right now, he wouldn't be the bubble guy in the pen for me.