5/23/2018 Bucs vs Reds

[cumberlandreds]

Barnhart still batting 2nd. :thumbup:

Joey Votto looks to break Johnny Bench's IBB record tonight. Should be some fireworks set off whenever that happens!

Can Homer give up less than five runs in five innings tonight?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd5q-DmV4AAs7kd.jpg:large

[CaiGuy]

I know its not a big deal, but I like flipping Peraza and Barnhart.

Hopefully the solid 1-6 can get some things cooking to offset that bottom 1/3 of the order.

[Big Klu]

Drop Peraza to 9th, and move Homer and Billy up one.

#pitcherbatsseventh

[klw]

It is the mlb.tv free game!


Also to note: with his next time reaching base Votto will pass Roger Peckinpaugh for sole ownership of 303rd on the all time reaching base list at 2713, with Willie McGee next in his sights at 2717.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/TOB_career.shtml

With a walk Votto will break a tie with Omar Vizquel for career walks. They are currently are tied for 109th all time with 1028. At 108 is Jesse Burkett at 1029 and Sal Bando (boooo) is 107th with 1033. John Hirschbeck's friend Robbie Alomar is at 1034.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/BB_career.shtml

Some other big names will be passed in the weeks to come.

97. Joe Cronin+ 1059 R
98. Ron Fairly 1052 L
99. Billy Williams+ 1045 L
100. Norm Cash 1043 L
Eddie Joost ) 1043 R
102. Roy Thomas 1042 L
103. Max Carey+ 1040 B
104. Rogers Hornsby+ 1038 R
105. Jim Gilliam 1036

[CaiGuy]

Quick out and we're underway!

[Tom Servo]

They can’t keep sending Homer out here like this. Bullpen or whatever.

[NebraskaRed]

Homer gonna Homer

[Joeyjection19]

Schebler read that ball well, it was hit on a line.

[NebraskaRed]

Since Stephenson pitched well again today, how long until he takes Homer's spot in the rotation?

[ochoa30]

Since Stephenson pitched well again today, how long until he takes Homer's spot in the rotation?

Hopefully by the next one. This is just stupid at this point.

[Tom Servo]

Hopefully by the next one. This is just stupid at this point.

At the absolute least they need to ban him from throwing that slider, it’s batting practice.

[CaiGuy]

I think this the last time Homer needs to start for a while.

He's either injured or completely toast, I think the latter sadly.

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Probably DL for something random and a rehab stint then decide what to do with him.

[CaiGuy]

Another very loud out. They're not going to stop at 2 runs.

[CaiGuy]

They fear the Scoot.

It's only a matter of time until that one Pirates Fan Poster comes on and complains about the latest Pirates killer.

[Tom Servo]

Thom has an annoying habit of only looks at trends in home stands or road trips. Most hot or cold streaks are longer than that.

Now lamenting his poor D'Backs.

[ochoa30]

They fear the Scoot.

It's only a matter of time until that one Pirates Fan Poster comes on and complains about the latest Pirates killer.

Considering pretty much every other hitter in this line up is slumping why would anyone pitch to him? I was shocked when they walked Votto yesterday to load the bases. That was an awful decision.

[NebraskaRed]

nice quick inning for Homer that time

[Strikes Out Looking]

nice quick inning for Homer that time

nice quick 3 innings for Kuhl aka the second coming of Cy Young.

[NebraskaRed]

here we go...

[ochoa30]

Bailey just cant put batters away. Its gonna get ugly here soon.

[Tom Servo]

Be interested to see Homer out of pen throwing his fastball, splitter, and knuckle curve.

[CaiGuy]

Be interested to see Homer out of pen throwing his fastball, splitter, and knuckle curve.

Yeah, I still think that splitter is an out pitch. It's just he only one he has.

Maybe it plays up a little in shorter stints.

[CaiGuy]

Oh boy, bases juiced.

Hoping something gets hit right at a defender somewhere.

[NebraskaRed]

He's so inconsistent. He'll look razor sharp one batter, completely mentally checked out the next

[Tom Servo]

Welsh suggesting Homer did that walk on purpose now has me prepared for a grand slam by the pitcher.

Slow roller just does get an out

[CaiGuy]

He's walking that tightrope so far.

[Tom Servo]

Anthony DeSclafani, I haven't heard that name in years

[NebraskaRed]

gee, I wonder whose spot Disco will take. I WONDER

[Tom Servo]

gee, I wonder whose spot Disco will take. I WONDER
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[ochoa30]

Not one decent outfielder on this roster right now

[CaiGuy]

gee, I wonder whose spot Disco will take. I WONDER

My fear is they give him like 2 starts, and bring him right up.

[NebraskaRed]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/xUPGcz2H1TXdCz4suY/200.gif

I mean really, do they think Sal Romano isn't aware of it?

[CaiGuy]

Homer half way to his customary 10 hits allowed.

[NebraskaRed]

Thom, expert on Cleveland sports radio

[Tom Servo]

Nice K of Bell.

[CaiGuy]

Homer with some wily K's all of the suddenly.

[CaiGuy]

That Cole trade has to really sting right now.

Wish the Reds could have been in on that one.

[Tom Servo]

3-0 Pirates on a single up the middle by Dickerson

[NebraskaRed]

Homer just can't seal the deal.

[CaiGuy]

3-0 Pirates on a single up the middle by Dickerson

That FB was squarely in the middle of the zone.

Crazy how different that AB was than the previous two, where is was hitting his spots just right.

[CaiGuy]

Why baby a (so-far) just OK bullpen guy and bring him back slowly after missing some of spring training, and throw Finnegan right into the MLB rotation after missing over a year?

[Tom Servo]

That bobblehead looks nothing like Scooter.

[CaiGuy]

Homer is going to come back out for some more.

Infield hit! Maybe he is hoping to audition for a position change.

[Big Klu]

Reds broadcasters' catchphrases:

Marty Brennaman -- "And this one belongs to the Reds!"
Joe Nuxhall -- "Rounding third and heading for home!"
George Grande -- "Hi, hello, and welcome!", "6-4-yessiree-3!", "It's gonna BEEEE gone!", "Smiling side of the scoreboard!"
Jeff Brantley -- "Right down Broadway!"
THom Brennaman -- "Straight up in the air...", "HOLY MOSES!", "Good stuff!"

[NebraskaRed]

is Brandon Dixon at least semi-competent in the outfield? start him

[CaiGuy]

Reds broadcaster's catchphrases:

Marty Brennaman -- "And this one belongs to the Reds!"
Joe Nuxhall -- "Rounding third and heading for home!"
George Grande -- "Hi, hello,and welcome!", "6-4-yessiree-3!", "It's gonna BEEEE gone!", "Smiling side of the scoreboard!"
Jeff Brantley -- "Right down Broadway!"
THom Brennaman -- "Straight up in the air...", "HOLY MOSES!", "Good stuff!"

I have heard a few "Golly Gee!"'s this year as well.

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is Brandon Dixon at least semi-competent in the outfield? start him

Isn't he mainly a lefty killer?

Just seems like another Duvall who doesn't field as well.

[Tom Servo]

Isn't he mainly a lefty killer?

Just seems like another Duvall who doesn't field as well.
Pretty much. But he was swinging a hot bat of late, which is more than any of the current OF guys can say.

[Big Klu]

I have heard a few "Golly Gee!"'s this year as well.

The better ones are listed closer to the top. Marty, Joe, and even George have quality catchphrases. (Though somewhat cheesy, in GG's case.)

[Tom Servo]

Infield hit and bloop hit to start the 6th. This one is on the verge of being just about over.

[Red Raindog]

Danger Danger Danger -- first two on base against Homer

[CaiGuy]

Thom always impressed when Scooter doesn't make the play (but tries really really hard to do so).

[Tom Servo]

lol awful

[CaiGuy]

Homer half way to his customary 10 hits allowed.

There it is.

[NebraskaRed]

man...

[BluegrassRedleg]

Applying palm to face...

[Big Klu]

Thom always impressed when Scooter doesn't make the play (but tries really really hard to do so).

THom is also easily distracted by bright shiny objects.

[Tom Servo]

Homer's night done. 4-0 Pirates with two runners on and no outs in the 6th.

[Red Raindog]

Can't say I thought much of Homer's effort to get into fielding position -- maybe I'm just in a crabby mood

[NebraskaRed]

Does Stephenson give up 10 hits, 4 runs, and 3 walks in 5 innings if he pitches this game?

[Tom Servo]

"Really important for him not to walk the first batter he faces here."

"And he does."

[mth123]

Reds broadcasters' catchphrases:

Marty Brennaman -- "And this one belongs to the Reds!"
Joe Nuxhall -- "Rounding third and heading for home!"
George Grande -- "Hi, hello, and welcome!", "6-4-yessiree-3!", "It's gonna BEEEE gone!", "Smiling side of the scoreboard!"
Jeff Brantley -- "Right down Broadway!"
THom Brennaman -- "Straight up in the air...", "HOLY MOSES!", "Good stuff!"

Marty (A low scoring game) "A Good old good one".
Marty; Titanic Struggle.
Marty: 3 Run Johnson
Joe: You Can't Win Two if you don't win the first one.
Joe: "If You Swing the bat, you're dangerous."

I like Grande but you got him covered. Don't care about the others

[ochoa30]

Dont get bringing in Rainey with runners on base

[Tom Servo]

Dont get bringing in Rainey with runners on base
Yeah. Or really why he got the call here in the first place, he's walked 8 in his last 5 innings for Louisville.

[ochoa30]

Yeah. Or really why he got the call here in the first place, he's walked 8 in his last 5 innings for Louisville.

That's no bueno

[Tom Servo]

Back to back K's after the walk to load em up.

I've seen this movie where Rainey gives up the grand slam before though.


lol Thom please don't start talking as if he's gotten out of it already

He does though!

[ochoa30]

Back to back K's after the walk to load em up.

I've seen this movie where Rainey gives up the grand slam before though.

Was just thinking this is like Deja Vu. Let's hope for a different outcome.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Nice job, Rook.

[NebraskaRed]

Tanner Rainey got upset about the comments you all were posting about him

[Mutaman]

My favorites:

"Starr........ Dowler ........ Touchdown"
Ray Scott

"Hey, hey, Hey"

Jack Brickhouse on those rare occasions when a Cub would hit a HR . I use this on those rare occasions when something really good happens.

"The Great Roberto"
Bob Prince

[CaiGuy]

Really nice outing by Rainey.

He hit 100 on the FSN radar a few times.

[Red Raindog]

More magic from Scooter

[Tom Servo]

Scooter! :jump:


GABP line drive HR

[NebraskaRed]

Scooter gonna scoot

[BluegrassRedleg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc

[Big Klu]

http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Pictures/elite80.jpg

[NebraskaRed]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/ScooterMuppet.jpg

[Tom Servo]

Not sure why you press your luck with Rainey here

[NebraskaRed]

Not sure why you press your luck with Rainey here

need to get that ERA below 20

[NebraskaRed]

down to 18.90 at the moment

[REDREAD]

Not sure why you press your luck with Rainey here

I can see why they leave Rainey in.. For whatever reason, he was determined "ready" and called up.. If he is here, why not use him when the Reds are down 3 runs? Save the other bullpen arms for another day.. Starting Homer is basically punting the entire game anyhow.

[NebraskaRed]

15.75

Good work, Rainey!

[REDREAD]

15.75

Good work, Rainey!

As Rainey left the mound, I was able to read his lips.. he said "Bite me, Tom Servo" :lol: (meant as a joke)

[CaiGuy]

2 walks not ideal, but he definitely has "stuff."

[Tom Servo]

As Rainey left the mound, I was able to read his lips.. he said "Bite me, Tom Servo" :lol:
lol I like Tanner! I love being proven wrong about bullpen decisions.

[CaiGuy]

Alright, leadoff hit. Ready for a Kuhl/Bullpen meltdown.

And he is out...

[NebraskaRed]

As Rainey left the mound, I was able to read his lips.. he said "Bite me, Tom Servo" :lol: (meant as a joke)

confirms my suspicion that the entire teams reads Redszone between innings.

I saw Billy Hatcher say, "That Tom Servo guy is out of control. Words can hurt"

[NebraskaRed]

Billy and Duvall with the most predictable at bats imaginable.

[Big Klu]

Not sure why you press your luck with Rainey here

Big Bucks, No Whammies! STOP!

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pyl_5070.jpg

[ochoa30]

If it ain't scooter it ain't happening with this offense

[NebraskaRed]

nice quick inning for Stephens. He looked confident and determined.

[CaiGuy]

nice quick inning for Stephens. He looked confident and determined.

A guy can make a nice living as a longman out of the pen.

Nothing wrong with that. Looks like Stephen's could stick a while in some role.

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Want to see some offense this inning.

[REDREAD]

Tucker gets some revenge for all the Reds batters plunked over the years :)

[CaiGuy]

Oh, bummer, Votto got a lot of that one.

[NebraskaRed]

someone really needs to ask Thom what he thinks "right down the middle" means

[BluegrassRedleg]

I thought A. Hugh got that one. At least a gapper. Dang.

[CaiGuy]

someone really needs to ask Thom what he thinks "right down the middle" means

I guess he doesn't get the benefit of the strike box thingy, lol.

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Suarez robbed, look like 2 runs at least.

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Wow, surprised to see Blanido PH for Shebler here.

[Big Klu]

Blando!

[ochoa30]

Great job Blandino!

[Maldez]

I'm really warming up to this Blandino guy....could be starter material.

[Tom Servo]

Tie game!

[Stray]

Peraza!

[ochoa30]

Man, never would have guessed Blandino and Peraza would come through against Vasquez. Great job by those 2 guys!

[BCubb2003]

We’ll have to start calling Blandino ... Flavorino.

[NebraskaRed]

Riggleman clearly should have gone with Tony Cruz there

[REDREAD]

Flea power!

[UKWhoDey]

I've felt good most of the night for some reason about our chances. Something feels different today.

[Big Klu]

So Dixon is bad enough in the OF that he pushes Winker from LF to RF? :eek:

[ochoa30]

Dixon and Winker in the field. Should be interesting.

[CaiGuy]

I think Tucker is to thank for that inning, Feliz wasn't the same after he got sniped by his line drive.

[Kingspoint]

Peraza knew he'd come in with that fastball and Peraza nailed it.

He threw a nasty change to Dixon.

Riggleman got the RHB's vs Vasquez and two of three got hits. Awesome!

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Dixon and Winker in the field. Should be interesting.

Yes.

[Ironman92]

I just caught up to live play.

Sadly Thom’s average on “straight up in the air” calls is down to an average of 326 ft and had his first call of the season under 200 ft.

Hate to break it to you guys...but Thom is improving

[Big Klu]

THom pronounces Feliz, "Fay-LEEZ".

:confused:

[CaiGuy]

So Dixon is bad enough in the OF that he pushes Winker from LF to RF? :eek:

At least Hughs is a GB pitcher...

[UPRedsFan]

anyone ever hear Marty give the game attendance without calling it a titanic struggle?

[Stray]

Thought that was gone off the bat

[Kingspoint]

That Sinker to Bell didn't sink. Lucky there.

[Big Klu]

anyone ever hear Marty give the game attendance without calling it a titanic struggle?

Not since the early 90's.

[Ironman92]

Thom thought that was going to hit the river boat in CF....turned out to be shorter than 6 of his SUITA calls.

[Kingspoint]

As long as Hughes keeps the ball down it will take three hits to get a run.

[CaiGuy]

SUITA

Another good tHom drinking game.

[Roy Tucker]

Thom is cranky tonight.

[NebraskaRed]

Jared Hughes seems to be the perfect pitcher for GABP.

[CaiGuy]

Thom is cranky tonight.

Glad he wasn't around during the Casey era.

[NebraskaRed]

Thom is cranky tonight.

he senses extra innings and he just wants to go home

[Big Klu]

Thom is cranky tonight.

If the batter is in the batter's box (even if he's fiddling with his gloves and not in a hitting position), can the pitcher prepare to throw the next pitch?

[CaiGuy]

Hamilton needs to avoid an out to keep his BA in the 200's.

[CaiGuy]

he just wants to go home

I'm OK with that.

[REDREAD]

Hold on, Jill is texting me..

[CaiGuy]

Hamilton needs to avoid an out to keep his BA in the 200's.

I was wrong, its an even 200 now.

[NebraskaRed]

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140326200452-network---howard-beale-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

live shot of Thom right now

[Red Raindog]

Thom is cranky tonight.

I've said it before -- how can you tell?

[Kingspoint]

I honestly don't know.

Why is Lorenzen on the team and has he pitched well for any 10-game stretch over his last 30 games?

[REDREAD]

I don't like using Lorenzen here, now that it is tied.

[CaiGuy]

Lorenzen's back, back again.

Lorenzen's back, tell a friend.

[Ironman92]

C’mon Reds

[WVRedsFan]

New player must be used!

Of course, Jim doesn't have much choice.

[Reds Fanatic]

Directv just totally lost this game for some reason

[CaiGuy]

New player must be used!

Of course, Jim doesn't have much choice.

What do you do when you have to make mid-series roster moves constantly just to keep your 8 man bullpen fresh.

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Votto, Scooter, Suarez all with the chance to be the hero tonight.

Let's finish this, boys!

[REDREAD]

I don't like using Lorenzen here, now that it is tied.

well, scary, but it worked.

[Ironman92]

Joey doesn’t go 0-5 too often

[Ironman92]

Gonna need a Suarez walk off

[Big Klu]

Why not let Lorenzen hit for himself?

[NebraskaRed]

I would have left Lorenzen in there to hit

[CaiGuy]

Scooter, really pressing to in order to impress Thom, chases way low to strikeout.

[NC Reds]

Ok Tony Cruz, Clint Hurdle chooses you. Do something about it.

[Ironman92]

Does Thom think this tough ass catcher is hurt due to getting hit in the pain?

[CaiGuy]

Quick, trade Cruz to them while they are desperate for a healthy catcher.

[757690]

Without looking, I’m guessing Lorenzen has a higher lifetime OPS than Cruz.

[NebraskaRed]

Tony Cruz did not deliver

[CaiGuy]

Without looking, I’m guessing Lorenzen has a higher lifetime OPS than Cruz.

Cruz - .561

Lorenzen - .618

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Tony Cruz did not deliver

Sample size is big enough for me, I think his true talent level is a .294 OPS.

[CaiGuy]

Cruz - 5 Hr's in 612 AB's

Lorenzen - 2 HR's in 53 AB's

[Tony Cloninger]

I mean maybe they don’t want Lorenzen to hurt himself but good wavy gravy come on with using Bill Plummer to hit there.

[Tony Cloninger]

Are you kidding me? Mickey Rivers just showed up to bat and get a double.

[CaiGuy]

So...I was wrong about Dickerson.

[NebraskaRed]

I predict that Dixon gets his first hit tonight.

[Roy Tucker]

Mark it on your calendar. Peraza walks.

[Ironman92]

Good call

[NC Reds]

I don't have the data but I feel like we get burned on that call a lot.

[Tom Servo]

yeah I think Dixon interfered

[mhs95_06]

Cervelli hit Dixon on purpose to make Peraza go back to first.

[Stray]

That wasn't obnoxiously inside the line. Tough break.

[CaiGuy]

Cervelli hit Dixon on purpose to make Peraza go back to first.

He's running in the grass, it's interference.

All good, though. Solid bunt. Thom loves him already.

[Kingspoint]

Not a good start for Dixon. Settle down there, big guy.

[NebraskaRed]

I predict that Dixon gets his first hit tonight.

lol

[CaiGuy]

Billy down to .199

[ochoa30]

Come on Tucker!

[Tom Servo]

Billy down to .199
Seems suboptimal when your batting average number starts with a 1 and your OB and SLG percentages begin with a 2.

[CaiGuy]

Seems suboptimal when your batting average number starts with a 1 and your OB and SLG percentages begin with a 2.

So glad they have two regulars in the OF with those kind of numbers. So glad.

[Big Klu]

How long until THom starts pimping the idea of starting an inning with a runner on second base?

[CaiGuy]

lol

I dunno, your prediction is still in play.

[NC Reds]

How long until THom starts pimping the idea of starting an inning with a runner on second base?

I'm stunned it hasn't happened yet.

[ochoa30]

Bob Castellini obviously doesn't watch this team much if he hope's Billy Hamilton is here forever. This guy should be a fifth outfielder if that. He is awful.

[NC Reds]

That was Reds-like.

[Stray]

terrible baserunning

[mhs95_06]

I think the way they usually call that, if the runner is across the line, is if the runner screens the fielder on first and he misses it without it touching the runner, they let it stand, and only call the interference if the throw hits the batter. So if you throw it to the right of 2 feet left of the line, you better hit the batter! Cervelli intended to hit the batter and was successful, got the call and the runner had to go back to 1B, rather than if he makes the correct throw the runner is sacrificed to 2B.

[NC Reds]

The spirit of Bill Hall lives in Harrison.

[ochoa30]

Harrison always kills us. No surprise there. That bunt play costs us the game most likely.

[Red Raindog]

Harrison always kills us. No surprise there. That bunt play costs us the game most likely.

not like a loss here will matter much

[CaiGuy]

Can't fault the bullpen for this one in any case. Another solid effort on their end.

[ochoa30]

not like a loss here will matter much

Definitely not, lol. It's all just jostling for the draft pick for the reds now. It was a nice comeback, you cant win em all.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Votto leadoff double!

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff double for Votto

[BluegrassRedleg]

That man isn't going 0-for-6. :)

[NC Reds]

Swing away please.

[Tom Servo]

Votto wasn't getting to third, Thom. Come on.

[ochoa30]

Really should have been on third but a nice start. I may have spoke too soon.

[Mutaman]

Pretty good pitch too.

[ochoa30]

Votto wasn't getting to third, Thom. Come on.

He was still bobbling the ball when votto was rounding the base. I thought he had it but could be wrong. Better safe then sorry.

[mhs95_06]

Should have been tied after 2 batters. Votto is worse on base-running than he is on defense!

[Mutaman]

That was not a good pitch and scooter did what he does.

[mhs95_06]

Harvey needs to PH!

[Stray]

Thom is all worked up.

[Reds Fanatic]

Suarez lines out to left and Votto holds at 3rd

[ochoa30]

Dickerson has an awful arm. Hes got to go there.

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Short bench is killing us tonight

[Big Klu]

The venom in THom's voice was palpable.

[Tom Servo]

lol I didn't realize Floro was up next, yeah they needed to send Votto there.

[Kingspoint]

With the pitcher coming to bat, Votto holds at 3rd?

[Reds Fanatic]

Down to Peraza for the last chance

[BluegrassRedleg]

I think you have to go there, BUT I also think Votto would have been out by 10 feet.

[Mutaman]

This team beats itself in so many ways.

[Stray]

Cmon Peraza

[BCubb2003]

Votto has catcher’s speed these days.

[ochoa30]

I think you have to go there, BUT I also think Votto would have been out by 10 feet.

Doubtful. Dickerson has a noodle arm. Not sure his throw even reached the plate.

[Ironman92]

I think you have to go there, BUT I also think Votto would have been out by 10 feet.

80 feet closer than he’s going to get

[Tom Servo]

I think you have to go there, BUT I also think Votto would have been out by 10 feet.
Yeah I agree but in that case you just hope the Bucs screw it up. Which isn't a sure thing but probably still a better bet than Floro coming through.

[JaxRed]

Votto made 2 baserunning mistakes. I assume that will kill us...

[Tony Cloninger]

Even when they have their best hitters up they manage to hit it to the worst place possible.

[Tom Servo]

Votto made 2 baserunning mistakes. I assume that will kill us...
Real big mistake not getting thrown out at third to start the inning

[Reds Fanatic]

The venom in THom's voice was palpable.

A Brennaman never misses a chance to go after Votto

[mhs95_06]

Pitching around Peraza to get to Dixon.

[Big Klu]

Yeah I agree but in that case you just hope the Bucs screw it up. Which isn't a sure thing but probably still a better bet than Floro coming through.

I'm a little surprised Castillo or Harvey didn't PH for Floro.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Doubtful. Dickerson has a noodle arm. Not sure his throw even reached the plate.

Look where he caught it... with momentum totally moving toward the plate. It would have taken a truly monumental poor throw to not throw out someone with Votto's legs.

[Griffey012]

Dickerson has an awful arm. Hes got to go there.

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Short bench is killing us tonight

It’s amounts to whether or not you think Peraza or the pirates making two casual throws to get Votto out is more likely. My guess was Votto would have been so dead at the plate it would be laughable.

[Ironman92]

Pitching around Peraza to get to Dixon.

They will pay

[Reds Fanatic]

Walk. Bases loaded

[ochoa30]

Look where he caught it... with momentum totally moving toward the plate. It would have taken a truly monumental poor throw to not throw out someone with Votto's legs.

Agreed but Dickerson is the guy to make that throw. He needs to tag with the pitchers spot on deck.

[Stray]

basehit wins it

[Tony Cloninger]

Good job Peraza not swinging at everything.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yeah I agree but in that case you just hope the Bucs screw it up. Which isn't a sure thing but probably still a better bet than Floro coming through.

Yeah. Better of two sets of bad odds. At least tagging they have to make a good throw and a good catch/tag.

[ochoa30]

Welcome to majors kid now get a game winning hit, lol

[Stray]

Everything says Votto shouldn't have ran. Even my arm if it were remotely online with a running start woulda beat him...but I still think you gotta make them make the throw, catch and tag. But still we have a chance.

[Tom Servo]

Welcome to majors kid now get a game winning hit, lol
This will determine once and for all whether he is better than Rosell Herrera or not.

[Mutaman]

Right down the pipe.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dixon grounds out. Reds lose 5-4

[Tom Servo]

This will determine once and for all whether he is better than Rosell Herrera or not.
Bust.

[wally post]

It looked to me that Hatcher held Votto. too bad

[Kingspoint]

Bust.

He's no Junior.

[ochoa30]

Cant imagine another team in the league not scoring in that inning. Reds are gonna red. Get em tomorrow.

[Tom Servo]

He's no Junior.
Thought he was your guy though

[Big Klu]

Short bench is killing us tonight

Unfortunately, the four-man bench is no longer short. It's the new normal.

[BluegrassRedleg]

It looked to me that Hatcher held Votto. too bad

Probably shell-shocked from getting 99 of his last 100 sends to home thrown out from here to there.

[Rolando]

Brandon Dixon was awful all game. What a ,joke

[Alabama]

That’s on Suarez. And way to make an impression Dixon��

[UKWhoDey]

Still can't believe Joey didn't tag and go. It was worth a shot.

[ochoa30]

Brandon Dixon was awful all game. What a ,joke

Calm down. It was his first ever big league game.

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Peraza had 2 walks tonight and we lost. Clearly walks are bad.

[forfreelin04]

Mahle would have been my choice.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 55-107.

[Alabama]

That’s what happens when you create a losing culture. Guys don’t come through in big situations

[Big Klu]

Mahle would have been my choice.

Castillo (.222) is the only Reds pitcher other than Bailey (.125) hitting over .100.

[Rolando]

Calm down. It was his first ever big league game.

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Peraza had 2 walks tonight and we lost. Clearly walks are bad.
Grounding out is no biggie but not knowing how to run the bases on the bunt is embarrassing

[REDREAD]

Grounding out is no biggie but not knowing how to run the bases on the bunt is embarrassing

I got a good laugh when Welsh and Thom said that "half the players don't know that rule.. probably half the coaches don't either".. I mean seriously? If we know it, and Thom knows it, I am pretty sure the players and coaches know it.

[forfreelin04]

Bottom line is Votto is terrible baserunner. Hatcher is to blame a bit for not sending him from the 3rd on the Suarez line out. But the bigger mistake was Votto looking back at Rodriguez on the double. If he picks up his third base coach after rounding third, hes at third standing up with nobody out. Rodriguez fumbled that ball a ton. Later, Votto waits too long move to third on the Gennett single negating any chance to score.

[Griffey012]

He was more miserable than usual in the last inning.

[Rolando]

Bottom line is Votto is terrible baserunner. Hatcher is to blame a bit for not sending him from the 3rd on the Suarez line out. But the bigger mistake was Votto looking back at Rodriguez on the double. If he picks up his third base coach after rounding third, hes at third standing up with nobody out. Rodriguez fumbled that ball a ton. Later, Votto waits too long move to third on the Gennett single negating any chance to score. Joey is clown on the bases

[Kingspoint]

Thought he was your guy though

I feel bad for him. Rough start.

[forfreelin04]

Fair enough, either way they shouldnt have a four man bench unless they were playing in the AL

[chicoruiz]

TV guys were bemoaning Votto not tagging, but to me it looked pretty shallow; I know the left fielder was supposed to have a bad arm, but unless it’s Lonnie Smith bad I’d say He gets Votto four times out of five.

On the other hand, I totally would have bunted with Floro. He’s a lot more likely to get a bunt down than a base hit or deep fly, and a successful bunt moves the winning run into scoring position. Plus once you put the ball in play, maybe something weird and wonderful could happen.

Not that it ended up mattering anyway. These guys are killing me...

[Rolando]

TV guys were bemoaning Votto not tagging, but to me it looked pretty shallow; I know the left fielder was supposed to have a bad arm, but unless it’s Lonnie Smith bad I’d say He gets Votto four times out of five.

On the other hand, I totally would have bunted with Floro. He’s a lot more likely to get a bunt down than a base hit or deep fly, and a successful bunt moves the winning run into scoring position. Plus once you put the ball in play, maybe something weird and wonderful could happen.

Not that it ended up mattering anyway. These guys are killing me...l
The biggest problem is Votto should have had a. easy triple he runs hard

[Tom Servo]

l
The biggest problem is Votto should have had a. easy triple he runs hard
He runs with three pianos on his back, in that situation you have him stopping at 2nd almost every time.

[Big Klu]

Something to consider:

If Votto tags and comes to the plate and is thrown out (which I think was highly likely), then the game is effectively over, as the pitcher (whether Floro or another pitcher pinch-hitting for him) is now batting with two outs and the tying run at 1st. On the other hand, if Votto holds, then Floro bats with one out. He most likely strikes out, but then the Reds still have Peraza (and as it turned out, also Dixon) batting with two outs and the tying run at 3rd. A lesser light at the plate, to be sure, but still a better chance IMO than trying to send Votto on that particular flyout.