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Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 01:25 PM
Cincinnati Reds
Record: 19-35

SS Jose Peraza (R)
C Tucker Barnhart (S)
1B Joey Votto (L)
2B Scooter Gennett (L)
3B Eugenio Suarez (R)
RF Scott Schebler (L)
LF Adam Duvall (R)
P Homer Bailey (R)
CF Billy Hamilton (S)

CIN: Homer Bailey (R) (1-6, 6.21)

Arizona Diamondbacks
Record: 26-26

CF Jarrod Dyson (L)
1B P. Goldschmidt (R)
3B Jake Lamb (L)
2B Daniel Descalso (L)
C J. Murphy (R)
RF Chris Owings (R)
LF Socrates Brito (L)
SS Nick Ahmed (R)
P Matt Koch (L)

ARI: Matt Koch (R) (2-3, 3.77)

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 01:57 PM
I wish the outfield rotation would be a little more platoon-like. I'd have Winker in there today and not Duvall against a righty.

JCM11
05-28-2018, 03:43 PM
Has it been decided that Blandino can't play SS? Peraza has a sub .500 ops for the month of May.

Alf_Red_E
05-28-2018, 04:02 PM
With Disco on the way back, could this be homer's last best chance to keep his spot? Or does Big Sal get a bus ticket to Louisville?

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:10 PM
Arizona's stadium always makes me think I'm watching a night game.

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 04:12 PM
The Reds are playing in Phoenix, and THom is nowhere to be found? I would have thought this would be the one series he would absolutely refuse to miss!

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:14 PM
Tuned in just in time to see the double play.

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 04:18 PM
Are the balls kept in humidor until just before bat boy gets them, or are they all removed before the game? Just wonder how long the humidor effect lasts....

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:18 PM
Homer Ks Goldschmidt

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quick 9 pitch inning for Homer "Disco is replacing Sal, not me" Bailey

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 04:20 PM
I wish the outfield rotation would be a little more platoon-like. I'd have Winker in there today and not Duvall against a righty.

Maybe they​ want the best defensive players in this big OF.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:21 PM
Just 10 pitches for Homer in the 1st inning.
Not bad, I hope he can keep it going.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:22 PM
Scooter just continues to hit

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Scooter nows leads the league in average at .343

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:24 PM
Scooter a real candidate for NL player of the month

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:26 PM
Chris can't resist Thom shots when he is not there

Mitri
05-28-2018, 04:30 PM
I wish the outfield rotation would be a little more platoon-like. I'd have Winker in there today and not Duvall against a righty.

Schebler needs to be the one mostly coming off the bench.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:31 PM
Duvall drives in a run. 1-0 Reds!

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:31 PM
And we have a lead!

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 04:32 PM
Duvall with a weakly hit ground ball that beats the shift for an RBI single.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:32 PM
Homer with a bunt. Runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:34 PM
And Billy Hamilton still can't hit....

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 04:34 PM
Be patient Billy....

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:34 PM
Seeing Eye base hit for Duvall drives in a run.
Sometimes little soft hits like that can bring a hitter out of a slump.

ochoa30
05-28-2018, 04:34 PM
Seeing Eye base hit for Duvall drives in a run.
Sometimes little soft hits like that can bring a hitter out of a slump.

Really hope so because this outfield situation is awful

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 04:35 PM
Once again Billy up with runners in scoring position swinging way at everything and failing. <sigh>

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:36 PM
Descalso triples to center

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:37 PM
In the midst of talking about Homer doing well in NL West ballparks, he gives up a triple

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:37 PM
I'm just not a fan of not having the pitcher 9th. Just seems to hurt some of our momentum in innings.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:39 PM
Owings walks. 1st and 3rd

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:42 PM
E6 screws us. Good grief.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:42 PM
Ughh that shoulda ended the inning

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:42 PM
Wow. Should have been an easy DP and somehow Peraza blows it completely

ochoa30
05-28-2018, 04:42 PM
How do you not make that play? Wow

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:43 PM
Homer did not hide his emotions (nor should he have)

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 04:44 PM
sigh, this year's Reds team is just horrible defensively as a unit.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:44 PM
Damnitman

JCM11
05-28-2018, 04:44 PM
Peraza is not an MLB caliber player. Neither is Homer for that matter.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:45 PM
There goes Homer again. 3 run homer to Ahmed who was batting .204. Just an absolute batting practice pitch

Baseballdad37
05-28-2018, 04:45 PM
Well all that is on Peraza!! Thank you Peraza for being the player you are!

Tadasimha
05-28-2018, 04:45 PM
Grand slam on a rocket

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:45 PM
And true to form, the baseball gods punish us for that mistake.

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 04:46 PM
And Homer gives up a Homer , of course

Baseballdad37
05-28-2018, 04:46 PM
Grand slam on a rocket

Huh??

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 04:47 PM
I kept thinking it would be a very Reds thing to do if they came into Arizona and gave the D-Backs the spark they needed to get hot again

Tadasimha
05-28-2018, 04:47 PM
Grand slam on a rocket

Sorry - forgot one run had already come in

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:47 PM
Well, this is all putting Homer's ERA above 7 again, right? Time to make a change. This isn't working.

Ironman92
05-28-2018, 04:49 PM
Scooter a real candidate for NL player of the month

He and Washington CH grad Travis Shaw

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 04:50 PM
Our weekly “white flag” game with Homer on the mound.


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Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:50 PM
I all honesty Homer shoulda been out of the inning before that HR.

We can still win this game

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 04:50 PM
Well, this is all putting Homer's ERA above 7 again, right? Time to make a change. This isn't working.

Technically it won't because those are unearned runs due to Peraza but he will get it there soon enough

Ironman92
05-28-2018, 04:51 PM
Homer did not hide his emotions (nor should he have)

Peraza didn’t try? Pitchers shouldn’t show up the fielders.

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 04:51 PM
I kept thinking it would be a very Reds thing to do if they came into Arizona and gave the D-Backs the spark they needed to get hot again

Was there really any doubt? The Reds are just the medicine that a struggling team needs..
Facing Homer is like a slump buster.

Ironman92
05-28-2018, 04:53 PM
Making an easy play in the field and keeping a .204 hitter from hitting a 3 run HR

Peraza sucked and Homer matched him

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 04:54 PM
This Game Ain't Over Yet

Baseballdad37
05-28-2018, 04:55 PM
Votto isn't being Votto like all year!

KronoRed
05-28-2018, 04:55 PM
The Reds are playing in Phoenix, and THom is nowhere to be found? I would have thought this would be the one series he would absolutely refuse to miss!

He's probably over in the Arizona booth, telling them how awesome they are.

KYExtemper
05-28-2018, 04:58 PM
He's probably over in the Arizona booth, telling them how awesome they are.

Based on yesterday's commentary he may have gone to Milwaukee to slobber all over the Brewers.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:04 PM
3 up & 3 down for Bailey in the 3rd.

RiverRat13
05-28-2018, 05:05 PM
If Homer gives up 14 runs in his next 11 innings, he'd match 2017 Bronson Arroyo.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:08 PM
Geno singles to LF

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Scheb HBP

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:12 PM
Are we going to bunt again?

Edit: Yep....

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:12 PM
C'mon Billy don't swing at everything

well he took 2 pitches

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:13 PM
Damn

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 05:16 PM
If you must play Billy, if you must to please the owner, bat him leadoff. Twice today, he's been up with runners on second and third only to be impatient and fail. Batting him 9th is not the way to go.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:18 PM
If you must play Billy, if you must to please the owner, bat him leadoff. Twice today, he's been up with runners on second and third only to be impatient and fail. Batting him 9th is not the way to go.

So the answer is to hit him leadoff so he can make even more outs?

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:19 PM
who the hell is John Ryan Murphy

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:19 PM
Cowboy has referee to the team we’re playing as “the Rockies” all day long.


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Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 05:20 PM
Homer cures more slumping teams then anyone. I don't care how you hit he serves up pitching right in the middle of the strike zone

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:20 PM
I do not know how many more times you can run Homer out there

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 05:20 PM
If you must play Billy, if you must to please the owner, bat him leadoff. Twice today, he's been up with runners on second and third only to be impatient and fail. Batting him 9th is not the way to go.


So the answer is to hit him leadoff so he can make even more outs?

#pitcherbatsseventh

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:21 PM
So we are into "taking one for the team" territory or "get him out of there" territory?

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:23 PM
So we are into "taking one for the team" territory or "get him out of there" territory?

Leave him out there as long as possible to save the bull pen. Live to fight another day.

If he gets his brains beat out so be it.

Baseballdad37
05-28-2018, 05:23 PM
Homer the slump buster!

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 05:24 PM
Homer gives up another Homer.

Welsh with the obvious comment "Homer is going to have to figure out how to do something different" :lol:

Baseballdad37
05-28-2018, 05:28 PM
This is a Little League team

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 05:31 PM
So the answer is to hit him leadoff so he can make even more outs?

Outs with no one on are less damaging. Just my opinion. I would play him as a bench and defensive, pinch runner player.

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 05:32 PM
This is a Little League team

Yay!

https://www.dairyqueen.com/PageFiles/392/dq-treats-wafflecone-plaincone.png?width=&height=810

UKWhoDey
05-28-2018, 05:32 PM
I'm not even sure I want Homer in the bullpen. Ship him to Louisville already, sheesh.

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:33 PM
Outs with no one on are less damaging. Just my opinion. I would play him as a bench and defensive, pinch runner player.

So, would I.....but then we have a hole at CF.

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 05:35 PM
The last 4 games, Reds starters have pithed 18.2 innings, given up 27 hits, 18 runs--16 of them earned, walked 13, and struck out 15. And still counting because I researched this before that last inning.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:41 PM
That was the polar opposite of a cheap GABP HR. That was a ridiculous humidor non-HR.

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:41 PM
I'd say I wish the Reds had the Chase Field effect but as we've seen today it hasn't helped Homer much

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:41 PM
Should Peraza have tagged up on that?

Edit: Moot point

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:44 PM
Scheb could make this interesting with a long ball..

Editt: Duvall could make this interesting with a long ball..

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:44 PM
Bases juiced for Duvall

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:44 PM
Scheb could make this interesting with a long ball..

now Duvall could make it really interesting

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 05:45 PM
6-2 Dbacks now

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:45 PM
Duvall delivers! Bases clearing double! 6-5 game!!

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:45 PM
Duvall has a pulse! Bases-clearing double. 6-5 game all the sudden.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
Wow. Bases clearing double by Duvall. Duvall with 4 RBI today

Red Raindog
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
That was unexpected from Duvall -- nice double!

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
Good job Duvall!

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
now Duvall could make it really interesting

Yes. Yes, he could.

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
ohhhhhh man

Totally the right call to send Duvall, can't believe they got him

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
That was not a weakly hit grounder that beat the shift.

Three-run double for Duvall!

Red Raindog
05-28-2018, 05:46 PM
I'd challenge because Bucknor is never right

dang - first time in my 66 years!

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:47 PM
Hatcher continues to get guys hosed at home plate.

JaxRed
05-28-2018, 05:47 PM
Why was Bailey hitting?

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 05:49 PM
2 outs, bases loaded for Duvall..
Would be a great time for a grand slam

edit : I guess I am really lagging

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:49 PM
I have no problem with sending Duvall, but I think they should have challenged that one.

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 05:49 PM
Why was Bailey hitting?

Beats me.

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 05:50 PM
Hatcher continues to get guys hosed at home plate.

It was totally the right call to send the runner. Arizona just made a good play.

Rolando
05-28-2018, 05:51 PM
Beats me.

He got hit no harm

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 05:53 PM
Homer about to put this one out of reach.

So he gets yanked, nice call by Riggleman.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:53 PM
It was totally the right call to send the runner. Arizona just made a good play.

I agree. Just laughing at his track record. :laugh:

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:53 PM
NOW you take Homer out?

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:53 PM
It was totally the right call to send the runner. Arizona just made a good play.

I agree. Duvall had a better chance of scoring there than waiting for Billy to drive him in.

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 05:53 PM
Get Bailey out of there. I deserve better tnan this.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 05:55 PM
I agree. Duvall had a better chance of scoring there than waiting for Billy to drive him in.

Infinitely.

Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 05:56 PM
Nice Play Adam!!!

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 05:57 PM
If the Reds get 4 innings out of Homer and are only down one run, why would you let him hit in a key situation and then trot him out there for the next inning? Seems like the time to pinch hit and to bring in the bullpen.

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 05:58 PM
NOW you take Homer out?

I know. It's not Riggleman's fault. He's being forced to play him. Beat writers need to get on Ownership for this until Bailey is off the Roster. News bosses need to back them up. Too much carte blanche for Cincinnati sports Owners.

bleedsred
05-28-2018, 05:58 PM
Thank you Jim Day for asking the obvious in regards to Homer.....seeds planted

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 05:59 PM
If the Reds get 4 innings out of Homer and are only down one run, why would you let him hit in a key situation and then trot him out there for the next inning? Seems like the time to pinch hit and to bring in the bullpen.

Ownership forcing his usage.

Red Raindog
05-28-2018, 05:59 PM
Get Bailey out of there. I deserve better tnan this.

yes -- we all deserve a happy ending!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7RopOgsh5c

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 05:59 PM
it was a very Price-esque move by Riggleman

Kc61
05-28-2018, 06:01 PM
I know. It's not Riggleman's fault. He's being forced to play him. Beat writers need to get on Ownership for this until Bailey is off the Roster. News bosses need to back them up. Too much carte blanche for Cincinnati sports Owners.

They aren’t giving up on Bailey. But they might DL him to see if rest/side work will help him.

Since he’s had so much surgery it’s not much of a reach for them to argue he needs DL time.

My guess is that will happen at some point in the near future.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 06:02 PM
Piss ants hitting bombs for D-backs today.

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 06:02 PM
welp

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 06:02 PM
man

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 06:04 PM
Homer's ERA now at 6.68 going into June

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 06:05 PM
wife heard me yell from the other room, so she asked what the score was now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwDMFOLIHxU

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 06:07 PM
It's not like we, and all our Grandmas, and the players and coaches didn't see this Bailey performance coming.

No better way for Ownership (and for Admin...president, gm, etc) to show they don't give a rat's patooey about the fans and the players than to let Bailey take up a spot on the 40-man roster. As a fan, you want to find greener pastures. As a player, you want to find better bosses.

Red Raindog
05-28-2018, 06:08 PM
Billy K's -- I try to keep that saved so I can copy & paste it easily

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 06:09 PM
They aren’t giving up on Bailey. But they might DL him to see if rest/side work will help him.

Since he’s had so much surgery it’s not much of a reach for them to argue he needs DL time.

My guess is that will happen at some point in the near future.

NO!

Cut bait.

Know when a relationship is over.

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What a waste of time.

Kc61
05-28-2018, 06:12 PM
Homer's ERA now at 6.68 going into June

6.68 sounds like ownership will have to do something soon. Probably DL, but whatever.

The two replacements are Disco and Stephenson. Seems obvious.

Disco should be back soon, next week?

Stephenson, depends on how much they want to see him in AAA.

Either way, they will have a replacement for Bailey (and Romano?) quite soon.

Alf_Red_E
05-28-2018, 06:13 PM
It's not like we, and all our Grandmas, and the players and coaches didn't see this Bailey performance coming.

No better way for Ownership (and for Admin...president, gm, etc) to show they don't give a rat's patooey about the fans and the players than to let Bailey take up a spot on the 40-man roster. As a fan, you want to find greener pastures. As a player, you want to find better bosses.

Trade bait at the deadline for a desperate team?

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 06:16 PM
The Reds could flip Jackson Stephens and Homer.. Send Homer to the pen as the mop up guy. (since ownership does not have the guts to cut him)

Make Jackson Stephens the starter.. Sure, Stephens probably will not do as good in the rotation, but at least it is not an automatic loss like when Homer starts.

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Trade bait at the deadline for a desperate team?

No team is that desperate.

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 06:16 PM
they gotta get the bullpen car in Cincinnati

baump
05-28-2018, 06:16 PM
I agree. Duvall had a better chance of scoring there than waiting for Billy to drive him in.

Billy's hitting, .286, .750 ops, with RISP

Kc61
05-28-2018, 06:18 PM
The Reds could flip Jackson Stephens and Homer.. Send Homer to the pen as the mop up guy. (since ownership does not have the guts to cut him)

Make Jackson Stephens the starter.. Sure, Stephens probably will not do as good in the rotation, but at least it is not an automatic loss like when Homer starts.

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No team is that desperate.

Jackson Stephens should not be a starter on this team. There are other candidates for Bailey’s spot. A move will be made pretty soon.

NebraskaRed
05-28-2018, 06:19 PM
Wandy Peralta would not have given up that run had he not used the bullpen cart

#dumbtake

Rolando
05-28-2018, 06:22 PM
It's time for Wandy to go Louisville

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 06:24 PM
Peralta had a "Fool's Gold" career and now we know what he is really like. It's sad that all that rebuilding it still rings true that good pitching relies on experience and track record most times. No money spent means 6-5 games that blows up into 10-5 quickly. It's so sad.

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 06:25 PM
they gotta get the bullpen car in Cincinnati

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SlNxF3JGEBs/maxresdefault.jpg

Tom Servo
05-28-2018, 06:25 PM
Peralta had a "Fool's Gold" career and now we know what he is really like. It's sad that all that rebuilding it still rings true that good pitching relies on experience and track record most times. No money spent means 6-5 games that blows up into 10-5 quickly. It's so sad.
Can't just spend to have everybody in the pen making Hernandez and Hughes money, you need to develop some actual guys.

Wandy showed flashes last year, but he's regressed significantly. He should have been sent down before May even began.

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 06:26 PM
Jackson Stephens should not be a starter on this team. There are other candidates for Bailey’s spot. A move will be made pretty soon.

Hard to say.. I have no idea what condition Disco is in.. if he's really ready, then yes, you are right.
If Disco is 'Finnegan ready" ie not really ready, then he should not be in the rotation.

Robert Stephenson should be in AAA all year.. That guy just got too complacent when he has been called up.
Maybe if Robert really pitches well, he gets a Sept callup.
Then in 2019, make Robert earn another chance.. no more freebies for Robert, no matter how bad and desperate the big league rotation is.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 06:26 PM
Barnhart's going to have trouble repeating as GG this season because the pitchers have been abysmal at holding people on.

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 06:30 PM
6.68 sounds like ownership will have to do something soon. Probably DL, but whatever.

The two replacements are Disco and Stephenson. Seems obvious.

Disco should be back soon, next week?

Stephenson, depends on how much they want to see him in AAA.

Either way, they will have a replacement for Bailey (and Romano?) quite soon.

Use Relievers if there's no Starter candidate.

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 06:32 PM
No team is that desperate.
...or stupid.

lnn6574
05-28-2018, 06:35 PM
they gotta get the bullpen car in Cincinnati

It would have to be battery powered. Gas is too high right now for Mr. C.


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Tony Cloninger
05-28-2018, 06:37 PM
Schebler needs to be the one mostly coming off the bench.

Schebler is the only one really hitting and Winker has no business being in RF anymore.

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 07:16 PM
The Red look lethargic today, or is it just me?

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 07:20 PM
Rainey walks in a run..

Kingspoint
05-28-2018, 07:23 PM
The Red look lethargic today, or is it just me?

That's what happens to morale with Bailey pitching.

It's like Easy Company trying to deal with Captain Sobel.

WVRedsFan
05-28-2018, 07:23 PM
Rainey walks in a run..

Not ready for Prime Time?

Seems to be a lot of that going around

REDREAD
05-28-2018, 07:24 PM
well, at least Rainey minimized the damage there. Good comeback.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 07:26 PM
Scooter another 3 hits today

BCubb2003
05-28-2018, 07:27 PM
The Splendid Scooter.

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2018, 07:28 PM
Kind of sad to be blown out in a game where you have 16 hits

Big Klu
05-28-2018, 07:33 PM
On pace for 56-106.

BluegrassRedleg
05-28-2018, 07:36 PM
5 runs on 16 hits. Ouch. [emoji23]


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Ron Madden
05-28-2018, 09:31 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-d-backs/2018/05/28/530201#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=530201