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Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 05:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeorfO_VQAAuthf.jpg

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 07:16 PM
Winker to the bench didn't last long....

NebraskaRed
06-01-2018, 07:32 PM
The 4-man OF rotation is dead.

Long live the new 4-man OF rotation.

GADawg
06-01-2018, 07:50 PM
Winker to the bench didn't last long....

I wish there was a better option for leadoff.....Id like to see him play and hit down in the order without any cares or pressure....seems like guys are often very conscious of being the "lead off" guy

KronoRed
06-01-2018, 07:57 PM
Maybe someone upstairs stepped in.

Donder
06-01-2018, 07:58 PM
Maybe someone upstairs stepped in.

Probably Manfred. The tanking was getting too obvious.

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 08:01 PM
Maybe someone upstairs stepped in.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2018/05/30/jim-riggleman-no-outfielders-have-really-hit-like-theyre-capable-rotation-winker-hamilton-schebler/656510002/



This was not Riggleman’s call alone. General manager Nick Krall and special assistant Buddy Bell met with Riggleman Wednesday.

Could just be Duvall feeling under the weather or something to that effect, but I guess we'll see if it's a quick u-turn.

Kc61
06-01-2018, 08:22 PM
My guess Winker tonight is because of San Diego.

It’s not a stadium in which you want to play for home runs. A line drive hitter can get multiple hits there.

Possible Rig was overruled on the outfield rotation, no idea, but I would want Winker hitting against a RHP in San Diego.

mhs95_06
06-01-2018, 09:07 PM
My guess Winker tonight is because of San Diego.

It’s not a stadium in which you want to play for home runs. A line drive hitter can get multiple hits there.

Possible Rig was overruled on the outfield rotation, no idea, but I would want Winker hitting against a RHP in San Diego.

Is the SD outfield less acres than Denver and Arizona also?

mhs95_06
06-01-2018, 09:19 PM
Is the SD outfield less acres than Denver and Arizona also?

I looked it up and Colorado is by far the biggest(0.18 acres bigger than the average of 2.49 acres), Arizona is 6th at 0.07 acres bigger, and SD is right at the average. There only 11 parks bigger than the average and 7 are in the NL, including 6 of the 7 biggest!

Kc61
06-01-2018, 09:41 PM
I looked it up and Colorado is by far the biggest(0.18 acres bigger than the average of 2.49 acres), Arizona is 6th at 0.07 acres bigger, and SD is right at the average. There only 11 parks bigger than the average and 7 are in the NL, including 6 of the 7 biggest!

It varies by season, but in 2017 Petco Park had the second lowest “park factor” for home runs. In other words, it was considered the second most difficult place to hit homers in the majors.

mhs95_06
06-01-2018, 09:58 PM
It varies by season, but in 2017 Petco Park had the second lowest “park factor” for home runs. In other words, it was considered the second most difficult place to hit homers in the majors.

By season do you mean spring, summer, fall; or 2015, 2016, 2017?

I've been thinking acres; the more acres, the more chance of exposing poor outfielders.

Kc61
06-01-2018, 10:02 PM
By season do you mean spring, summer, fall; or 2015, 2016, 2017?

I've been thinking acres; the more acres, the more chance of exposing poor outfielders.

No, I’m referring to the year. SD is a notoriously bad home run park, but some years its “park factor” for homers is worse than other years. Last season, 2017, it was second worst for home run hitting.

I’m guessing that’s why Duvall is out and Winker is in tonight against a RHP.

Patrick Bateman
06-01-2018, 10:05 PM
It’s more about how the ball carries.


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BillyJoeJimBob
06-01-2018, 10:11 PM
Fox Sports gives WAY too much credit to George Grande......just sayin

Big Klu
06-01-2018, 10:25 PM
4-6-yessiree-3!

BluegrassRedleg
06-01-2018, 10:26 PM
Yessiree!!!!


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Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 10:26 PM
Nice turn on the DP

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 10:30 PM
this is brutal

https://i.imgur.com/ADAfiXc.png

ochoa30
06-01-2018, 10:32 PM
this is brutal

https://i.imgur.com/ADAfiXc.png

Honestly surprised the ERA isnt much lower

Big Klu
06-01-2018, 10:32 PM
this is brutal

https://i.imgur.com/ADAfiXc.png

What should we expect? The Reds have sucked for the last five years.

Big Klu
06-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Wasn't Raffy Lopez briefly a Red?

Big Klu
06-01-2018, 10:47 PM
Circus catch by Schebler!

I guess everyone went to bed.

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 10:48 PM
Wasn't Raffy Lopez briefly a Red?
Yep.

Uggo catch by Scheb but it was caught & saved runs and that's the important part.

InsaneinthBrame
06-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Thankfully Winker was not in right

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 10:52 PM
Billy leadoff walk in the 3rd, good time now for the offense to get to this kid second time through the order.

1-0 Reds after a Billy steal and two ground balls. Not exactly what I was looking for but a run is nice.

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 10:57 PM
Billy gets second ridiculously easy

RedsfaninMT
06-01-2018, 11:01 PM
Billy gets second ridiculously easy

Yes, that was almost a pointless throw. If only Billy could get on more often...

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:04 PM
Jankowski looks like Bronson Arroyos love child

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Yes, that was almost a pointless throw. If only Billy could get on more often...

If the Reds had a dollar for every time that has been said, they could double their payroll

RedTeamGo!
06-01-2018, 11:06 PM
If I didn’t catch Jankowski’s first name and someone put a gun to my head and said “what’s his first name?” I would say “Travis” with absolutely no hesitation.

RedsfaninMT
06-01-2018, 11:13 PM
Another ump with a horrible strike zone.

ochoa30
06-01-2018, 11:15 PM
Another ump with a horrible strike zone.

Doesn't give Mahle an inch off the inside corner but gives one to this kid 4 inches inside to Suarez. So sick of the inconsistency.

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:15 PM
Peraza double to wall! 2 runs score!

3-0 Redlegs

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:16 PM
I thought Schebler might pass Suarez !!

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:17 PM
Schebler nearly runs over Suarez!

ochoa30
06-01-2018, 11:17 PM
Show the bunt earlier. What does it accomplish to show the bunt so late? Jeez

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:18 PM
Riggleman sure does love the bunt...

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:19 PM
Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes set to star in Major League 4: Reds Can't Bunt

cincinnati chili
06-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Everything Chris Welsh has said for the last 3 minutes is entirely wrong.

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:22 PM
I like the person in Seat 1, Row C

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:22 PM
The grey mask doesnt go with the padre brown and this ump will call a strike on a ball thrown into the dugout

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:24 PM
I much prefer Padres in shades of brown and yellow. (vs whatever they wear now)

Kingspoint
06-01-2018, 11:26 PM
Someone said in Wed's game thread that it looked like Peraza was turning a corner again.

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:27 PM
Someone said in Wed's game thread that it looked like Peraza was turning a corner again.
This is his 4th straight multi-hit game.

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:29 PM
Barnhart is a bad mutha-tucker

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:29 PM
Barnhart with a little dribbling single up the middle to bring in Peraza, 4-0 Redlegs

Lockett done, Reds actually did get to a rookie in his debut for once.

cincinnati chili
06-01-2018, 11:29 PM
"No Bronze will be cast in her likeness" (only the out-of-towners will get this)

RedTeamGo!
06-01-2018, 11:31 PM
Welsh sounds so at ease with Grande next to him. I bet he feels like he’s wearing his most trusted and comfortable pair of underpants.

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:31 PM
Time for Votto to get that average to .300 again

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:32 PM
"No Bronze will be cast in her likeness" (only the out-of-towners will get this)

Every time she slides I cringe.....

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:33 PM
Welsh sounds so at ease with Grande next to him. I bet he feels like he’s wearing his most trusted and comfortable pair of underpants.

Are you comparing George Grande to a pair of boxers?

cincinnati chili
06-01-2018, 11:33 PM
"You see, they'll try to overthrow you. Say, charge it to the game." WTF does that mean?

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:35 PM
"You see, they'll try to overthrow you. Say, charge it to the game." WTF does that mean?

That commercial is a test of my reflexes.....how quickly can I mute....

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:41 PM
Four scoreless for Mahle

BluegrassRedleg
06-01-2018, 11:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:43 PM
Scooter! :jump:

5-0 Redlegs

Tadasimha
06-01-2018, 11:44 PM
Scoot home slow

RedTeamGo!
06-01-2018, 11:45 PM
Are you comparing George Grande to a pair of boxers?

No, Grande is def a pair of tighty whiteys

UKWhoDey
06-01-2018, 11:45 PM
Atta boy Scoot!!

Kingspoint
06-01-2018, 11:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc

When I was a bank teller at BofA in '84, Ronnie Montrose handed me $4K cash to put in his account. It did smell of pot. I copied his deposit slip and kept it in my wallet for about 15 years.

Only one girl and I even recognized him when he came in.

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:52 PM
Mahle understands that the Raffy Lopez's of the baseball world exist for you to use to pump up your strikeout totals.

BluegrassRedleg
06-01-2018, 11:55 PM
When I was a bank teller at BofA in '84, Ronnie Montrose handed me $4K cash to put in his account. It did smell of pot. I copied his deposit slip and kept it in my wallet for about 15 years.

Only one girl and I even recognized him when he came in.

:)

Classic.

JaxRed
06-01-2018, 11:57 PM
Hosmer is a big out here...

Tom Servo
06-01-2018, 11:59 PM
95 pitches for Mahle through his 5 scoreless. Pitch efficiency still not ideal, though you'll take what you can get.

Batting for himself to start the 6th.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:02 AM
lol Mahle leadoff triple

or double with an error, technically

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:03 AM
Billy is bad

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:03 AM
Billy is bad
(extremely pedantic voice) but Peraza

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 12:06 AM
Madrigal is 3-4 with 4 RBI's through 6. If we take him Monday (my 59th!), he could be starting at SS next season. Another problem fixed.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:07 AM
Reds leave Mahle stranded, pretty pitiful. At least they have the 5 run lead.

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:08 AM
Madrigal is 3-4 with 4 RBI's through 6. If we take him Monday (my 59th!), he could be starting at SS next season.

Hell, he could be starting SS next month. Move Peraza to CF and Hamilton to bench.

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 12:08 AM
Was that Tucker with the f-bomb there?

JaxRed
06-02-2018, 12:08 AM
Madrigal is 3-4 with 4 RBI's through 6. If we take him Monday (my 59th!), he could be starting at SS July 1st. Another problem fixed.

FIFY

Edit: RTG was quicker....

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 12:10 AM
Hell, he could be starting SS next month. Move Peraza to CF and Hamilton to bench.

Would be fine by me. If Horner could skip the Minors, Madrigal could, too. He's much more polished than Conforto was.

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:10 AM
FIFY

Edit: RTG was quicker....

That’s what she said.

Hey yooooo self-own.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:12 AM
Was it the Letterman interview where Thom kept trying to harass Jim Day into asking more questions to a celebrity who is clearly not too interested in being interviewed? I remember a few of those.

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Mahle gets ahead of Pirela but allows a sharp single up the middle and that's it for him in the 6th.

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 12:14 AM
I like how Riggleman is using this off day and Mahle batting for himself to give one more guy two days off.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 12:15 AM
Was it the Letterman interview where Thom kept trying to harass Jim Day into asking more questions to a celebrity who is clearly not too interested in being interviewed? I remember a few of those.

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Mahle gets ahead of Pirela but allows a sharp single up the middle and that's it for him in the 6th.

That would be the one.

JaxRed
06-02-2018, 12:17 AM
Stephens was talking some stuff out there......

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:17 AM
Lorenzen looks like a bareknuckled boxer

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 12:19 AM
Spangenberg has the versatility in the field and consistency at the plate to make him a Red next year.

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That would be the one.

The only interview I remember Thom being involved with is when he interviewed the bird.

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:21 AM
Great performance by Lorenzen

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 12:21 AM
Thinking if Letterman and Seinfeld both give Joey their seal of approval, it's only a matter of time before Votto is a Yankee.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:21 AM
Lorenzen gets three quick outs.

Tadasimha
06-02-2018, 12:22 AM
Spangenberg has the versatility in the field and consistency at the plate to make him a Red next year.

He Spangs

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 12:28 AM
Should be Homer Bailey time.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:29 AM
Third hit for Peraza! Brings in a run.

And a wide throw at third brings in Suarez! 7-0 Reds


Should be Homer Bailey time.
He's sitting in the dugout so that ain't happening.

BluegrassRedleg
06-02-2018, 12:29 AM
Nice baserunning. Barely in there.

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 12:30 AM
Peraza with 4 RBIs.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 12:32 AM
Excellent music in the background at Petco while the umps check the replay. ("Feels So Good", by Chuck Mangione)

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 12:32 AM
June and Duvall is still hitting .181. Amazing.

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Excellent music in the background at Petco while the umps check the replay. ("Feels So Good", by Chuck Mangione)

Hank Hill, baby.

Kc61
06-02-2018, 12:35 AM
Chris Welsh with a good analysis of Peraza’s play, at least it seems as much.

Good player when confident, but can become defensive at the plate and in the field.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 12:35 AM
Those Elk & Elk commercials have really evolved. The first one had one Elk never speaking and both had a mean look on their faces. Now, they look human and even smile. Sorry, but as much as I hate to say it, the big lead has me bored, but I'll take it.

RedTeamGo!
06-02-2018, 12:38 AM
Lorenzen looks fantastic

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:38 AM
Chris Welsh with a good analysis of Peraza’s play, at least it seems as much.

Good player when confident, but can become defensive at the plate and in the field.
I feel a little vindicated by looking up walk rates, because that remains probably the biggest knock on Peraza, and I see he's still walking more than Jean Segura and Dee Gordon, both guys I have comped Peraza to in the recent past.

Both of those guys are productive hitters who rely on hitting a lot of singles and didn't genuinely start hitting until they were 26. I obviously don't know for sure if Peraza can get there, but I think he has a chance to.

ochoa30
06-02-2018, 12:40 AM
I feel a little vindicated by looking up walk rates, because that remains probably the biggest knock on Peraza, and I see he's still walking more than Jean Segura and Dee Gordon, both guys I have comped Peraza to in the recent past.

Both of those guys are productive hitters who rely on hitting a lot of singles and didn't genuinely start hitting until they were 26. I obviously don't know for sure if Peraza can get there, but I think he has a chance to.

When hes good he looks good and even has some pop. When hes bad hes so bad it's crazy. He needs consistency and maybe he could be decent. I still feel like hes a good utility player on a good team and there's nothing wrong with that.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 12:40 AM
Those Elk & Elk commercials have really evolved. The first one had one Elk never speaking and both had a mean look on their faces. Now, they look human and even smile. Sorry, but as much as I hate to say it, the big lead has me bored, but I'll take it.

Now we have Tim Misny, and he'll "make...them pay!"

I would like to see a court case litigated between Tim Misny and Kevin Kurgis. I envision it as a classic SNL skit.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 12:43 AM
Jose hitting a respectable .265, but OPS is .636 where I image most SS are. Now, that defensive lapse...

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Now we have Tim Misny, and he'll "make...them pay!"

I would like to see a court case litigated between Tim Misny and Kevin Kurgis. I envision it as a classic SNL skit.

But, he "makes them pay!"

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:47 AM
Lorenzen rolling.

JaxRed
06-02-2018, 12:48 AM
This is the best I can ever remember Lorenzen looking....

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 12:48 AM
I don't see that straight fastball down the middle like before. Great job for Lorenzen

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:50 AM
This is the best I can ever remember Lorenzen looking....
There was that one 3 inning relief outing early last year against Pittsburgh, but this might have been even better. He just carved them up.

Also possible hot take that I think someone else might have said before: I think I'm more interested in seeing Lorenzen tried as a stater again than Garrett.

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 12:52 AM
There was that one 3 inning relief outing early last year against Pittsburgh, but this might have been even better. He just carved them up.

Also possible hot take that I think someone else might have said before: I think I'm more interested in seeing Lorenzen tried as a stater again than Garrett.

Would it be unreasonable for the Reds to consider a Lorenzen/Garrett tandem start?

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 12:53 AM
Would it be unreasonable for the Reds to consider a Lorenzen/Garrett tandem start?
Seems pretty reasonable considering they've used both of them in these multi-inning roles. It's the kind of experimenting I'd personally like to see, but I'm not really counting on.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 12:54 AM
Would it be unreasonable for the Reds to consider a Lorenzen/Garrett tandem start?

They'll never do that, but with the starting pitching as bad as it is, you would hope both Michael and Amir would someday start

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 12:56 AM
Marty and Amanda have a commercial now?

Kc61
06-02-2018, 01:00 AM
Would it be unreasonable for the Reds to consider a Lorenzen/Garrett tandem start?

It’s a great idea for Lorenzen.

I’d rather see Garrett available most nights, he’s become the best lefty in the pen.

I’d consider Stephenson to pair with Lorenzen as a starting point when he comes up.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:01 AM
Marty and Amanda have a commercial now?Yep. I met Amanda several years ago at Marshall U. Now, she's a commercial star

JaxRed
06-02-2018, 01:01 AM
Doing 4 innings like this makes you ponder......

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:02 AM
Welp...

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 01:04 AM
so much for the shut out

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Billy is hurt.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:05 AM
Billy looks like he's hurt. Grabbing left shoulder. In the meantime, that Lorenzen starting...maybe not so fast

JaxRed
06-02-2018, 01:08 AM
Billy looks like he's hurt. Grabbing left shoulder. In the meantime, that Lorenzen starting...maybe not so fast

That's normally caught be Billy for a shutout, and Billy misplayed the first hit.

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 01:08 AM
In the meantime, that Lorenzen starting...maybe not so fast
Ah I stand by it. Those hits to center both could (not saying should, but could) have been caught.

WrongVerb
06-02-2018, 01:08 AM
Reds could bring Floro in and put Lorenzen in center of they have to.

BluegrassRedleg
06-02-2018, 01:09 AM
And this one belongs to the Reds! :beerme:

Tom Servo
06-02-2018, 01:09 AM
We're stiill good! :beerme:

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:10 AM
Ah I stand by it. Those hits to center both could (not saying should, but could) have been caught.Yeah, but I saw the old Michael on that long triple. Guess he got tired.

TNRED
06-02-2018, 01:10 AM
Chris says Billy has to come out even if you have to put Homer Bailey in. Might as well get some use out of him.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 01:10 AM
Michael Lorenzen with a four-inning save.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:13 AM
Michael Lorenzen with a four-inning save.

Will he get a save for that? Yes he will. Shows in the box score as save 1

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Peraza speaks English!

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 01:15 AM
On pace for 59-103.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 01:19 AM
Reds could bring Floro in and put Lorenzen in center of they have to.


Chris says Billy has to come out even if you have to put Homer Bailey in. Might as well get some use out of him.

The most likely move probably would have been Blandino to SS, with Peraza moving from SS to CF.

Kingspoint
06-02-2018, 01:21 AM
On pace for 59-103.

Looking forward to that 100+ being gone very soon.

WVRedsFan
06-02-2018, 01:26 AM
Looking forward to that 100+ being gone very soon.

Reds are 18-22 since Price was fired and 18-19 (if you discount the shock factor of them losing Price) under Riggleman. I see an upward move. On the down side, Winker was 0-3 with a walk and a .240 average and trending down sadly,

BluegrassRedleg
06-02-2018, 01:57 AM
Michael Lorenzen with a four-inning save.

It was like 1977 out there tonight.

Big Klu
06-02-2018, 01:57 AM
According to Brian and Jeff in the studio, Lorenzen's save was the first four-inning save by a Red since Elmer Dessens in 2000. I think I was at that game, a win at home vs. the Padres.

Edit: I was! An 11-5 win vs. San Diego on June 24. My dad and I went. We had green seats in LCF, more toward CF. Barry Larkin hit 2 HR's.

BluegrassRedleg
06-02-2018, 02:25 AM
Elmer Dessens!!!

Umkubas
06-02-2018, 02:43 AM
Canadian Josh Naylor and Canadian and former Stanford Cardinal and teammate of Alex Blandino, Cal Quantril both play for San Diego’s AA franchise, the San Antonio Missions.
Naylor is having a spectacular year and Quantril has his ups and downs.

GO CANADA GO
GO STANFORD CARDINAL BASEBALL

757690
06-02-2018, 10:57 AM
It was like 1977 out there tonight.

Somewhere, Pedro Bourbon Sr. is smiling.

JCM11
06-02-2018, 01:31 PM
On pace for 59-103.

We're 16-17 since April 27 (the day David Hernandez was activated). I'm getting kinda optimistic now with Homer out of the rotation. If I did the math right our team era for the month of May without Homer was 4.01.

Scooter played hurt the first month, Suarez missed two and a half weeks, and we've had a lot of addition by subtraction since then.