6/13/18 Reds @ Royals

[Ironman92]

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[Ironman92]

I think we win by 8+ runs

[Boston Red]

I'm on I-35 on the way to KC (I'm not writing and driving!). Can't wait.

[Kingspoint]

I'm on I-35 on the way to KC (I'm not writing and driving!). Can't wait.

Have an absolute Great Time!

If they lose, I'm blaming you.

;)

I'm hoping this will be the first of five straight series wins. Sal Romano just turned our Starting Pitchers' fortunes, hopes and expectations around.

[CaiGuy]

Gotta love the 3 man bench.

[cumberlandreds]

Gotta love the 3 man bench.

No backup 1st baseman. Chuckie weeps................

[klw]

Votto DHing again and Duvall at first. I wonder if Votto is a bit beat up? Back still sore?

[WrongVerb]

Votto DHing again and Duvall at first. I wonder if Votto is a bit beat up? Back still sore?

Or Votto is pushing 35 and you give him every chance you can to rest his legs during the season.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto DHing again and Duvall at first. I wonder if Votto is a bit beat up? Back still sore?

Riggelman said last weekend Votto would be the DH these two games. I imagine they want to give him a small break but keep his bat in the lineup.

[klw]

Riggelman said last weekend Votto would be the DH these two games. I imagine they want to give him a small break but keep his bat in the lineup.

Makes sense.

[JCM11]

Blandino and Dixon on pace to get about 20 PA's each this month.

[Big Klu]

I'll be flipping back and forth between the game and "A Fistful of Dollars" on TCM.

[klw]

I'll be flipping back and forth between the game and "A Fistful of Dollars" on TCM.

"A Fistful of Dollars" - is that the Yankees vs Nats?

[Kingspoint]

Peraza and Schebler have to make him throw more than a total of three pitches between them.

[Big Klu]

6-4-yessiree-3!

[Kingspoint]

I'll take that from Mahle.

[Red Raindog]

Scooter is going to be in the Hall of Fame at this rate


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[Kc61]

Scooter is going to be in the Hall of Fame at this rate


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Question is whether he’ll be a Red long enough to wear their cap on his plaque.

Scoreless, bottom two.

[mhs95_06]

Votto DHing again and Duvall at first. I wonder if Votto is a bit beat up? Back still sore?

DH, isn't that where you put your worst defender so he can hit and not have to go in the field? I think Riggleman got it right! Although Joey is not quite as bad as the Tenn Tech first baseman in their elimination game they lost instead of going to the CWS.

[Big Klu]

5-4-yessiree-3!

[Kingspoint]

I don't know how others feel, but I like Mahle as our best bet to become our best pitcher and a very good one through 2022.

[klw]

DH, isn't that where you put your worst defender so he can hit and not have to go in the field? I think Riggleman got it right! Although Joey is not quite as bad as the Tenn Tech first baseman in their elimination game they lost instead of going to the CWS.

Is Duvall really better at 1b than Votto? Asking as I have not actually seen Duvall in his 1b games. Is Duvall at 1st instead of Votto more of an improvement that Duvall the GG OF in the OF instead of Winker?

That being asked I am okay with Votto getting the rest.

[mhs95_06]

I don't know how others feel, but I like Mahle as our best bet to become our best pitcher and a very good one through 2022.

Yes, he and Castillo.

[Kingspoint]

Induces two Groundball Double-plays first two innngs. That's solid.

[mhs95_06]

Is Duvall really better at 1b than Votto? Asking as I have not actually seen Duvall in his 1b games.

I'd say so!

[Ironman92]

Anyone know if Paul Orlando is fast? Haven’t heard.

[Ironman92]

Duvall is at first to give Joe’s legs a little break for a couple days....not because Duvall is better or worse

[Kingspoint]

Schebler's seen two pitches in two PA's. That's horrible baseball from a leadoff hitter or anyone else.

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Yes, he and Castillo.

It's close between those two.

[Tadasimha]

Mahle is your pally - Dean Martin

[Big Klu]

Anyone know if Paul Orlando is fast? Haven’t heard.

Paulo Orlando is wearing Bo Jackson's old #16, if that means anything in KC.

[Kingspoint]

No strikeouts for Mahle through three, but he's pitched to the minimum, while letting his Defense do the work.

[kaldaniels]

The Hochevar Game Part II

[Big Klu]

Is Duvall really better at 1b than Votto? Asking as I have not actually seen Duvall in his 1b games. Is Duvall at 1st instead of Votto more of an improvement that Duvall the GG OF in the OF instead of Winker?

That being asked I am okay with Votto getting the rest.

The best defensive alignment is probably:
Votto 1B
Duvall LF
Winker DH

But I'm confident that Duvall would be a fine defensive 1B with a little experience. And as you mentioned, this is primarily about giving Votto a few days off without losing his bat.

[Kingspoint]

Mahle retires Merrifield this time after giving up a leadoff single to start the game.

[Tadasimha]

The Hochevar Game Part II

Sounds like a film series

[Kingspoint]

Wonder how Mahle feels about working with Casali?

[mhs95_06]

The best defensive alignment is probably:
Votto 1B
Duvall LF
Winker DH

But I'm confident that Duvall would be a fine defensive 1B with a little experience. And as you mentioned, this is primarily about giving Votto a few days off without losing his bat.

With Votto getting valuable rest by DHing, it would be best if Winkler could do decent at 1B, but he probably hasn't worked on it. If Joey broke his femur running the bases tonight, I'd hope that Winker would get OJT and take over 1B for him.

[Kingspoint]

Very impressive, Tyler Mahle!

Faced the minimum on 51 pitches through 4.

Let's not wait until the 9th to score and get at least one here.

[mhs95_06]

Very impressive, Tyler Mahle!

Faced the minimum on 51 pitches through 4.

Let's not wait until the 9th to score and get at least one here.

Hammel with just 40 pitches thru 4!

[RedsfaninMT]

Hammel's going to need only about 90 pitches to go 9.

[Tadasimha]

Yeesh, they're hack happy tonight

[RedsfaninMT]

Mark Grace mention. Drink!

[Kingspoint]

Maybe this is the rare at-bat that Duvall guesses right?

[Big Klu]

THom says that Jim Riggleman has compared Jesse Winker to Mark Grace.

It's on like Donkey Kong now!

[Ironman92]

Paulo Orlando is wearing Bo Jackson's old #16, if that means anything in KC.

I’ll take prime Bo speed over Orlando

[Tadasimha]

THom says that Jim Riggleman has compared Jesse Winker to Mark Grace.

It's on like Donkey Kong now!

Gonna wreck it!

[Big Klu]

With Votto getting valuable rest by DHing, it would be best if Winkler could do decent at 1B, but he probably hasn't worked on it. If Joey broke his femur running the bases tonight, I'd hope that Winker would get OJT and take over 1B for him.

Tonight is Duvall's 40th major-league appearance at 1B, and he also had 115 appearances at 1B in the minors and winter league.

Winker has never made a single appearance at 1B at any level of professional baseball.

[Tadasimha]

Nice job, pally!

[Big Klu]

So should RedsZone get out the torches and pitchforks for Freddie Benavides, or should we still blame that one on Billy Hatcher?

[Tadasimha]

So should RedsZone get out the torches and pitchforks for Freddie Benavides, or should we still blame that one on Billy Hatcher?

It's on Price

[Ironman92]

If you play in the AL Central (except for Indians) and you hit 25 HR.....I believe you’d be near the top of the HR leaderboard if playing in AL East

[Big Klu]

It's on Price

I blame Bob Boone.

[Boston Red]

It's on Price


It's on the fence for being three feet too tall.

[Ironman92]

Someone let me know if Thom knows whether or not Orlando is fast

[Ironman92]

I blame Bob Boone.

So Jim Bowden?

[Big Klu]

Meanwhile on TCM, Clint Eastwood is facing the Rojo brothers in the street, but Ramon doesn't know that Clint is wearing a steel breastplate.

[mhs95_06]

Tonight is Duvall's 40th major-league appearance at 1B, and he also had 115 appearances at 1B in the minors and winter league.

Winker has never made a single appearance at 1B at any level of professional baseball.

That's why I say On the Job Training!

[Kingspoint]

3rd time through the lineup is always the lithmus test.

[GADawg]

I'll be flipping back and forth between the game and "A Fistful of Dollars" on TCM.

Don't tell me how either ends!!

[Big Klu]

That's why I say On the Job Training!

It's more likely that Duvall would play 1B, and Winker would play LF.

[Kingspoint]

3rd time through the lineup is always the lithmus test.

Same holds true for Hammel.

[Big Klu]

If you play in the AL Central (except for Indians) and you hit 25 HR.....I believe you’d be near the top of the HR leaderboard if playing in AL East

New Comiskey Park (or whatever it's called now) is also somewhat HR friendly.

[Ironman92]

Scary.

Incredible how often those liners bounce towards an infielder for an out

[Big Klu]

Don't tell me how either ends!!

The movie's over. I won't spoil the ending.

Next up, "For a Few Dollars More", with Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef.

[Tadasimha]

That's why I say On the Job Training!

Sure, lets all hope one of the best players of his generation gets hurt so we can play a basic rookie with no positional experience there! Great plan :rolleyes:

[Ironman92]

New Comiskey Park (or whatever it's called now) is also somewhat HR friendly.

Yeah....it and Jacobs are similar but are any of those 5 as good of a HR park as any of the AL East parks.

[Ironman92]

Ha Ha....

1-0

[Tadasimha]

The movie's over. I won't spoil the ending.

Next up, "For a Few Dollars More", with Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef.

Can't go wrong with Lee Van Cleef

[Big Klu]

Ha Ha....

1-0

¡Olé!

[Kingspoint]

Can't go wrong with Lee Van Cleef

or, Valerie van der Graaf.

[TennesseeRed]

The Royals...woof.

[Big Klu]

Can't go wrong with Lee Van Cleef

Yep, and he's an antihero in this one. (He's the villain in the more famous, "The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly".)

[Ironman92]

Good base running by average speed guys Scooter and Suarez

[Big Klu]

or, Valerie van der Graaf.

Umm, OK?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Van_de_graaff_generator_sm.jpg

[BCubb2003]

How did the Royals get in this condition? Last I checked in on them, they were the model for doing it right.

[Big Klu]

THom is slobbering all over Ohio State again.

[Tadasimha]

Yep, and he's an antihero in this one. (He's the villain in the more famous, "The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly".)

Hes at his best as the anti-hero protagonist, i think: Big Gundown, Death Rides A Horse, Sartana

[Big Klu]

How did the Royals get in this condition? Last I checked in on them, they were the model for doing it right.

They punted.

[BluegrassRedleg]

THom is slobbering all over Ohio State again.

Might as well bring Herbie in for color while they're at it.

[Tadasimha]

Might as well bring Herbie in for color while they're at it.

At least he actually wants them to win

[Tom Servo]

How did the Royals get in this condition? Last I checked in on them, they were the model for doing it right.
Their window was never really wide open, their young core of Perez, Hosmer, Moustakas, and Yordano Ventura (rip) was good but was never their greatest strength. They were a team of destiny who saw the clock strike midnight, with Alex Gordon and his big contract taking one of the biggest tumbles.

[Big Klu]

Jared Hughes coming in.

"Leeroy Jenkins!"

[Tom Servo]

Riggleman does his best La Russa impression.

[mhs95_06]

Sure, lets all hope one of the best players of his generation gets hurt so we can play a basic rookie with no positional experience there! Great plan :rolleyes:

I said if he gets hurt, I'd hope the Reds would put Winker at 1st. The season is lost and with the slow afoot Winker it would be a golden opportunity to get him to a position he may be better suited for, to get him more versatile and keep his bat in the line-up.

[Baseballdad37]

I really believe if the Reds had any decent starting pitching they would definitely be over .500 easily! Their bullpen is one of the best in the MLB and we already know how good their hitters are.

[Ironman92]

Pls run Billy

[Kc61]

If you watch the Reds often, the well pitched games are completely different. Just a different feel altogether.

They are playing a weak team in KC, but we see how this team might look with reasonable starting pitching.

Hope the FO really attacks this problem head on this coming off-season.

[TennesseeRed]

How did the Royals get in this condition? Last I checked in on them, they were the model for doing it right.

You know the phrase "Ride it until the wheels fall off?"

[mhs95_06]

How did the Royals get in this condition? Last I checked in on them, they were the model for doing it right.

Typical small market team that it all comes together for a small window of time, but they can hardly afford to keep any good players with more than 4 years in MLB, and when they get close they mortgage the future to try to win it all.

[Ironman92]

Joseph gonna get some more rbi for Thom

[Ironman92]

Strikeout Jose, walk Joe, grand slam Scooter

[TennesseeRed]

Peraza!

[Tom Servo]

Nice AB by Peraza there.

[Kc61]

Strikeout Jose, walk Joe, grand slam Scooter

Peraza seldom strikes out.

[Ironman92]

Peraza seldom strikes out.

I’m well aware. Scooter rarely hits grand slams

[Ironman92]

Nice AB by Peraza

[Kc61]

I’m well aware. Scooter rarely hits grand slams

So you were drawing to an inside straight. Ok with me.

[Ironman92]

So you were drawing to an inside straight. Ok with me.

No I was guessing with my heart

[mhs95_06]

Should have squeezed with Joey!

[Kc61]

No I was guessing with my heart

Either way, it’s 3-0. Too bad inning ended on DP.

[Big Klu]

Hes at his best as the anti-hero protagonist, i think: Big Gundown, Death Rides A Horse, Sartana

Clint does everything left-handed in this one. (His right hand is reserved for shooting only.)

[Red Raindog]

or, Valerie van der Graaf.

https://youtu.be/WDmhP6YiN6s


Yeah I’m old

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[UPRedsFan]

Well, I’m convinced we’re better than KC. No offense Kc.

[Ironman92]

Welsh talking about my area

[Ironman92]

He didn’t name a city near Athens you moron. Grab a map and look at it

[Tadasimha]

Welsh talking about my area

Put your pants back on - this is a family board

[mhs95_06]

Saurez with a hard breaking side-arm sinker to Duvall!

[Ironman92]

Put your pants back on - this is a family board

Not sure why I’d have my pants off if he were?

[Ironman92]

Great. Peralta in to blow it

[BluegrassRedleg]

Flippin' breakin' balls!!! :laugh:

[Big Klu]

He didn’t name a city near Athens you moron. Grab a map and look at it

Yeah, I spent quite a bit of time in Athens in my youth. And none of those towns are particularly close.

[Ironman92]

Thom mad at Hughes who has simply been outstanding all year

[Tom Servo]

Thom piling praise on Hughes and then when he walks a guy starts in with how disgusted he is lol

[BluegrassRedleg]

He's even pissed about out #3 because it was a line drive. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Ironman92]

Surprised he hasn’t mentioned this game going to glacier speed

[Tadasimha]

Insurance runs? Sure, why not!

[TennesseeRed]

The Royals, man.

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And it gets worse. lol.

[Ironman92]

Thom is mad the Royals suck

[Tom Servo]

I wanna play the Royals more.

[BluegrassRedleg]

9th innings vs. KC are fun.

[Ironman92]

The Royals are mad Thom sucks

[Big Klu]

I forgot that Klaus Kinski was one of the villainous henchmen in this movie.

[TennesseeRed]

Thom is mad the Royals suck

After every bunt, I'm waiting for him to go with "...and speaking of bunts, I don't know if you remember, but in the 11th inning of the last game of the Rockies series, D.J. LeMahieu laid a bunt down and I'm still FLABBERGASTED"

[TennesseeRed]

BOMB!!!!!

[Ironman92]

After every bunt, I'm waiting for him to go with "...and speaking of bunts, I don't know if you remember, but in the 11th inning of the last game of the Rockies series, D.J. LeMahieu laid a bunt down and I'm still FLABBERGASTED"

The Rockies play in Denver which is nearby Athens Ohio

[BluegrassRedleg]

Boom!!!

Grand slam Duvall :beerme:

[WVRedsFan]

Duvall Grand Slam!

[Tom Servo]

Duvall! :jump:

Grand slam, 7-0 good guys

[Ironman92]

448 ft...that’s my guess

[JCM11]

Adam Duvall doesn't always get hits, but when he does they go a long way.

[WVRedsFan]

Adam Dunn lives.

[Ironman92]

414???????

From the pitcher’s mound maybe

[BluegrassRedleg]

414???????

From the pitcher’s mound maybe

Right! LOL. What the heck was that estimate?

[Ironman92]

Lord ....Thom really wants outta there

[Roy Tucker]

The Royals are bad.

[Big Klu]

THom loses track of how many outs there are. Get your head in the game, THom!

[Red Raindog]

I forgot that Klaus Kinski was one of the villainous henchmen in this movie.

Ah Fitzcarraldo

One my favorites along with Aguirre the Wrath of God and who can forget Nosferatu

Klaus was great


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[Red Raindog]

That’s a big slam


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[Ironman92]

THom loses track of how many outs there are. Get your head in the game, THom!

He was daydreaming about Kyle Schwarber getting down a successful bunt....in Arizona, with Urban Meyer in the stands wearing an Ohio University hat

[Ironman92]

I think we win by 8+ runs

Meh, not bad

Two straight game wins with me starting game threads....see you Friday

[WVRedsFan]

Amazing with the bad year he's having, but Duvall has 11 HR and 38 RBI's while hitting .188 and OPS-ing at .668. If he could get it going somewhat better, the offense would also be better.

[Tom Servo]

Would really appreciate Iggy not doing any further damage to his BB/9 or HR/9 here.

[Red Raindog]

I'm on I-35 on the way to KC (I'm not writing and driving!). Can't wait.

You should attend more often


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[TennesseeRed]

Hamilton!

[Big Klu]

He was daydreaming about Kyle Schwarber getting down a successful bunt....in Arizona, with Urban Meyer in the stands wearing an Ohio University hat

Not an Ohio University hat, but an Ohio State hat.

THom only mentions OU out of guilt. He has no love for them.

[Tom Servo]

Great catch by Billy

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hamilton selling out his body for a great catch there.

[Ironman92]

Billy had a chance to Bo that wall

[JCM11]

Billy's lucky he didn't snap his ankle there.

[BluegrassRedleg]

And this one belongs to the Reds! :beerme:

[WVRedsFan]

Reds win 7-0. Sweep!!!

[Tom Servo]

We're still good! :beerme:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Whoa. All-out fight in LA-TEX on home plate collision.

[Big Klu]

Whoa. All-out fight in LA-TEX on home plate collision.

Sponsored by Trojan?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Sponsored by Trojan?

:laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqnTcQJn-is

[mhs95_06]

Mahle 5-6 with 3.96 ERA.

[Big Klu]

On pace for 60-102.

[Kingspoint]

Meh, not bad

Two straight game wins with me starting game threads....see you Friday

The REDS just won a series. I seriously want to get greedy and win the next one.

[Kingspoint]

Mahle 5-6 with 3.96 ERA.
In my best Gomer Pyle impression, "That's nice! That's real nice!"

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On pace for 60-102.

I believe that's the first time we hit the "60" number?

[Sea Ray]

This is the absolute worst Reds team I've ever seen. I've said it all year. I can't believe we found a team that's worse.

[WVRedsFan]

This is the absolute worst Reds team I've ever seen. I've said it all year. I can't believe we found a team that's worse.

The record proves it. Jim Riggleman has managed to have a record of 23-28 or a winning percentage of .451, so there is some progress. If Riggleman can do at least that well. we would win 43 more or a total of 69-93 or a winning percentage of .426, which is about where we've been since Price took over, but a record of 66-78 under Riggs is .458. Yeah, its kind of obvious this isn't a good team.

[WrongVerb]

I listened to Marty and Jeff last night. It was amusing to hear them discover park effects as player after player flied out to the warning track.

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Also, this team continues to be what it appeared to be last month: they can beat other bad teams but lose to the decent to good teams.

[cumberlandreds]

The Reds have found a team they can beat regularly. It's too bad they don't play them again until the last week of the season. Actually the Reds may be better than a few teams like the Orioles,Padres,White Sox and a couple of others. Just a lot of bad baseball teams in 2018. This may actually keep them from losing 100 games this season.

[cumberlandreds]

On pace for 60-102.

Almost to the point of not having the worst record on record for the Reds. With the Pirates coming up, who aren't playing well at all and the Tigers they have a shot at getting off the 100 loss pace.

[Kingspoint]

Wonder how Mahle feels about working with Casali?

"I'm really comfortable with him. I like him a lot back there. He has a good presence. He calls a good game. I don't think I'm too hard to call pitches for so it's easy for me to mend with guys. We mend really well." -- Mahle, on working with Curt Casali, who was acquired in a trade from the Rays on May 31

[Boston Red]

Mend?

[Big Klu]

Mend?

I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QPS9DYlwwuI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAL8/0nTxCLLgZPY/photo.jpg

[Big Klu]

I believe that's the first time we hit the "60" number?


Almost to the point of not having the worst record on record for the Reds. With the Pirates coming up, who aren't playing well at all and the Tigers they have a shot at getting off the 100 loss pace.

I believe the Reds are currently at their highest winning percentage of the season.