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Ironman92
06-16-2018, 01:40 PM
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JaxRed
06-16-2018, 03:35 PM
So it IS possible to print and write cursive at the same time !!

KronoRed
06-16-2018, 03:43 PM
So it IS possible to print and write cursive at the same time !!

Someone tell my 4th grade teacher :angry:

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:14 PM
Schebler grounds out to 2b on the second pitch (on a nice play), Tucker hits a comebacker to picther on 1st pitch. Need Joey to work the count a bit.

Edit: He did, and drew a walk.

Scooter flew out on first pitch

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 04:16 PM
How does that ball fall in?

And how does that one fall in, too?

Red Raindog
06-16-2018, 04:17 PM
Winker seems to me to have poor instincts as an outfielder


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JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:22 PM
First batter hits a liner to Winker that he gets a bad start on, and it falls in for a hit. Probably should have been caught.

Next batter slices one to the line that Winker lumbers to and does not get caught. Feel pretty sure Duvall would have had that one.

Reds were playing back and third hitter hits grounder to Scooter and the run scores.

Castillo walks next guy to put men at first and third one out.

Castillo K's Dickerson on a high 95 MPH fastball.

Bell grounds out weakly to 3rd.

Inly one runs scores, but it should have been a 1-2-3 inning.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 04:25 PM
First batter hits a liner to Winker that he gets a bad start on, and it falls in for a hit. Probably should have been caught.

Next batter slices one to the line that Winker lumbers to and does not get caught. Feel pretty sure Duvall would have had that one.

Reds were playing back and third hitter hits grounder to Scooter and the run scores.

It's OK. He's playing LF, which is his real position.

Oh, wait...

Tom Servo
06-16-2018, 04:25 PM
How does that ball fall in?

And how does that one fall in, too?
Thought that first one should have been caught, looked bad. Second one I've seen Duvall play the ball the same way on, I don't know if any of the three corner guys catch it from where Winker was positioned.

Luis limits the damage to a run.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 04:28 PM
Thought that first one should have been caught, looked bad. Second one I've seen Duvall play the ball the same way on, I don't know if any of the three corner guys catch it from where Winker was positioned.

Luis limits the damage to a run.

I thought the second one looked like he gave up on it.

Tom Servo
06-16-2018, 04:31 PM
Geno! :jump:

he's so good

Red Raindog
06-16-2018, 04:32 PM
Suarez long ball
I like the guy


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Red Raindog
06-16-2018, 04:33 PM
Winker havoc!


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Big Klu
06-16-2018, 04:35 PM
Suarez has now passed Leo Cardenas for third place among Latino players on the Reds home run list.

1. Tony Perez (Cuba) - 287
2. Dave Concepcion (Venezuela) - 101
3. Eugenio Suarez (Venezuela) - 73
4. Leo Cardenas (Cuba) - 72
5. Edwin Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña (Dom. Rep.) - 54
7. Cesar Geronimo (Dom. Rep.) - 44
8. Felipe Lopez (Puerto Rico) - 41
9. Bo Diaz (Venezuela) - 39
10. Javier Valentin (Puerto Rico) - 34
11. Cesar Cedeño (Dom. Rep.) - 30
12. Mariano Duncan (Dom. Rep.) - 28
13. Jose Guillen (Dom. Rep.) - 27
14. Juan Castro (Mexico) - 25
15. Ramon Hernandez (Venezuela) - 24
16. Eduardo Perez (USA/Puerto Rico) - 23
17. Alex Ochoa (USA) - 20
18. Luis Quiñones (Puerto Rico) - 19
18. Benito Santiago (Puerto Rico) - 19
18. D'Angelo Jimenez (Dom. Rep.) - 19
18. Alex Gonzalez (Venezuela) - 19
22. Juan Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 16
23. Miguel Cairo (Venezuela) - 13
24. Roberto Kelly (Panama) - 12
25. Ruben Rivera (Panama) - 10
25. Jose Peraza (Venezuela) - 10

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:36 PM
I thought the second one looked like he gave up on it.

I think that ball is absolutely caught by Duvall.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:38 PM
After Suarez hit a bomb for a homer on pitch 12, Winker bunts against the shift. Pitcher got there in time but couldn't find the handle and Winker is safe. Peraza fouls out.

Castillo, one of our better hitting pitchers is told to bunt.... He K's and now it's Billy.

Wild pitch advances Winker.

Billy K's.

1-1 going to bottom of 2

Red Raindog
06-16-2018, 04:39 PM
Billy K's®

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:45 PM
First hitter slices one to Schebler who makes a nice running grab just short of wall. Castillo then walks the number 8 hitter and the pitcher bunts him to second with 2 outs. Harrrison pops out to Scooter.

Castillo at 43 pitches thru 2 innings.

Tom Servo
06-16-2018, 04:46 PM
Would be cool with Castillo didn't have to go full on every batter.

Thom is an audiophile now I guess, loves this Pirates sound system especially compared to the Dodgers one.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 04:49 PM
Would be cool with Castillo didn't have to go full on every batter.

Thom is an audiophile now I guess, loves this Pirates sound system especially compared to the Dodgers one.

I've been to PNC Park many times. They do have an excellent audio system, and a very nice scoreboard too.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:51 PM
Looks like nice crowd today also.

Ironman92
06-16-2018, 04:51 PM
I've been to PNC Park many times. They do have an excellent audio system, and a very nice scoreboard too.

Was there 5 years ago and they had spin rate and other pitching stuff on every pitch. How far it dropped or moved left to right. Ahead of their time. We sat in the all you can eat seats and had a great time. I ate 3 seats.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 04:53 PM
Schebler flies out on 1st pitch. Tucker flies out. And Joey flies out.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:00 PM
First hitter for Pirates lines out to Winker. Marte flies out to Schebler. Moran crushes one to CF for homer. As they say "it just sounded different". And then Dickerson send one to the wall for a double. Need an out here to get out of trouble.

Bell flies out to CF

2-1 Pirates

Kc61
06-16-2018, 05:04 PM
Moran homer seemed to have a nice launch angle - very high bomb to center. Followed by a double that didn’t quite have enough juice on it.

Chris says the ball is really jumping. Let’s hope it’s jumping for the Reds side too.

Tom Servo
06-16-2018, 05:06 PM
It's depressing for me how watching Castillo starts went from must-watch TV to watching them with my hands over my eyes just wishing for something good to happen.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 05:07 PM
Was there 5 years ago and they had spin rate and other pitching stuff on every pitch. How far it dropped or moved left to right. Ahead of their time. We sat in the all you can eat seats and had a great time. I ate 3 seats.

I haven't​ been there in 6 or 7 years, but I used to go over when the Reds were in town about 4 or 5 times a season. It is exactly two hours from my house (as long as you don't get caught in rush hour traffic on I-376).

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:10 PM
Scooter leads off with a bloop. Now we need (another) blast for Suarez. Nope, line out to CF. Winker lines out and Pirates intentionally walk Peraza to get to Castillo. Castillo hit a grounder to 1b but Nova boots it and we have bases loaded and 12 out and Billy up.

Billy grounds out.

Did it cross anyone else's mind that you could pinch hit for Billy?

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 05:18 PM
Chris Welsh and Thom B are wrong as they often are. Nothing wrong with Josh Bell's feed to Nova. It was right in his glove. Nova took his eye off the ball. Infuriating to hear them wrongly lay blame like that.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 05:22 PM
Chris Welsh and Thom B are wrong as they often are. Nothing wrong with Josh Bell's feed to Nova. It was right in his glove. Nova took his eye off the ball. Infuriating to hear them wrongly lay blame like that.

You would like for the throw to have been earlier, so that the pitcher didn't have to catch the ball and look for the bag at the same time.

But it's a play that needs to be made.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:24 PM
Diaz takes first pitch for homer. 3-1. Next guy grounds out to SS. Nova K's, Harrison grounds to SS.

InsaneinthBrame
06-16-2018, 05:25 PM
To me Castillo just does not seem like the same pitcher as last year. It is plenty warm sp that can no longer be an excuse.

I just do not see that 98-99-100 fastball any more. I am beginning to wonder if he has a small injury that he is not telling anyone. another thing is that he does not have the same command of pitches.

It is so frustrating watch him this year.

Kc61
06-16-2018, 05:26 PM
Pirates with another blast, 3-1 ballgame.

Reds have an odd relationship with the long ball this year.

Mostly they just give them up.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:31 PM
Schebler almost goes deep, and ends up with a double. Tucker and Votto fly out harmlessly. As does Scooter.

InsaneinthBrame
06-16-2018, 05:31 PM
Pirates with another blast, 3-1 ballgame.

Reds have an odd relationship with the long ball this year.

Mostly they just give them up.

Out homered 97 to 65 coming into today. This stat makes me depresssed

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 05:32 PM
If Thom and Chris are going to criticize guys for cadillacing it, how about criticize Schebler for admiring that should-have-been-a-triple double.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 05:37 PM
It's depressing for me how watching Castillo starts went from must-watch TV to watching them with my hands over my eyes just wishing for something good to happen.

Maybe (just maybe) he caught lightning in a bottle last year, and this is who he really is?

I personally don't think that's the case, but I'm beginning to think he's not the top of the rotation guy some thought he was, either. Maybe he eventually settles in as a #3-4 type?

BluegrassRedleg
06-16-2018, 05:40 PM
Thom: Idiot

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:40 PM
Meadows slices a single to LF to open inning. Next guy grounds to SS and Meadows goes to second. Moran flies to CF. Runner does not advance. Fly out to Schebler to end inning.

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 05:44 PM
Thom wrong again. Claims Kevin Mitchell played with the Giants before he went to the Mets.

Old school 1983
06-16-2018, 05:46 PM
RZ 2012-2013: Castillo is having a sophomore slump. RZ 2018: He's terrible.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 05:51 PM
Thom wrong again. Claims Kevin Mitchell played with the Giants before he went to the Mets.

I caught that one, too. (The mistake, not the ball.)

BluegrassRedleg
06-16-2018, 05:53 PM
Capt. Can o' Corn leaves runners stranded yet again.

Red Raindog
06-16-2018, 05:54 PM
has anyone suggested that Billy cannot hit?

BluegrassRedleg
06-16-2018, 05:54 PM
I caught that one, too. (The mistake, not the ball.)

Yep. How could he forget Big K was in the middle of that Davis-Knight bruhaha?

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 05:55 PM
Suarez, K's. Winker singles sharply, Peraza flies out, and Duvall pinch-hitting for Castillo walks. Once again a critical game situation comes down to Billy. Once again we don't pinch hit, once again we fail. (on first pitch).

InsaneinthBrame
06-16-2018, 05:58 PM
RZ 2012-2013: Castillo is having a sophomore slump. RZ 2018: He's terrible.

I think people are saying something is wrong.

Near 6 ERA is not a slump IMO

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 05:59 PM
Billy has amazing speed to track that down. But I was always taught to spin around in the OF to make that throw, rather than stopping your momentum. I admit to not having the best coaching. Any of you former players/current-former coaches have a thought on that? It seems like he would have had a better chance to get Bell if he'd done that.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 05:59 PM
Suarez, K's. Winker singles sharply, Peraza flies out, and Duvall pinch-hitting for Castillo walks. Once again a critical game situation comes down to Billy. Once again we don't pinch hit, once again we fail. (on first pitch).

Ever since the Reds have decided to bat Hamilton ninth, it seems the #9 spot comes up in those situations a lot.

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 06:04 PM
Yep. How could he forget Big K was in the middle of that Davis-Knight bruhaha?

I seriously wonder if Thom was watching much baseball at that age. Was this 86? 87? I think he was doing kegstands at his frat at Ohio U. And I don't mean metaphorical kegstands. Dude was president of his frat.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:04 PM
Billy has amazing speed to track that down. But I was always taught to spin around in the OF to make that throw, rather than stopping your momentum. I admit to not having the best coaching. Any of you former players/current-former coaches have a thought on that? It seems like he would have had a better chance to get Bell if he'd done that.

You're right. For a right-handed throwing CF moving to his right, turning into the throw would be preferable to throwing against his body. But I doubt if it would have changed the result in this case.

Baseballdad37
06-16-2018, 06:05 PM
It's amazing if we don't use Hernandez. Hughes, Lorenzen, Garrett, Floro,or Iglesias we are doomed

RedsfaninMT
06-16-2018, 06:06 PM
Billy thinking of challenging BIll Bergen's year of .161? I think the .132 and .139 seasons Bergen put up are likely out of reach.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:07 PM
I seriously wonder if Thom was watching much baseball at that age. Was this 86? 87? I think he was doing kegstands at his frat at Ohio U. And I don't mean metaphorical kegstands. Dude was president of his frat.

[BLEEP]ing Betas.

InsaneinthBrame
06-16-2018, 06:07 PM
And people thought the Reds would be better than the Pirates this year

Mutaman
06-16-2018, 06:19 PM
[BLEEP]ing Betas.

I'm an armpit, I'm an armpit, I'm an armpit til I die. But I'd rather be an armpit than a Beta Theta Pi.

Mutaman
06-16-2018, 06:22 PM
Maybe we can trade Castillo to the Angels for john Lamb.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:22 PM
I think the clock has struck midnight on Austin Brice.

Votto and Floro demonstrate how PFP is supposed to work.

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 06:30 PM
Thom Brennaman WOULD like a band called the Street Gypsies.

InsaneinthBrame
06-16-2018, 06:30 PM
13755
Hope this works Castillo's ERA and Fastball graph.
ERA is going up and velocity is going down

Powder River
06-16-2018, 06:36 PM
First game I’ve been able watch in a while.... this team just takes the love of baseball right out of me.

cincinnati chili
06-16-2018, 06:38 PM
Thom kind of wrong again. About the save rule. To get a 3-inning save, the official scorer has to determine that he pitched effectively. He doesn't get it automatically for pitching the last 3 innings.

BTW, I didn't set out to point out all of Thom's mistakes today, but he's making it pretty damn easy.

JaxRed
06-16-2018, 06:39 PM
Holy cow. Senzel is starting at SS tonight in AAA!!

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:40 PM
13755
Hope this works Castillo's ERA and Fastball graph.
ERA is going up and velocity is going down

Get back in there and sell! SELL!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/obAoPP1bdIM/maxresdefault.jpg

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:45 PM
Brandon Dixon hits his first major-league home run!

Mutaman
06-16-2018, 06:50 PM
Were Don Ameche and Alan (The Horse) Ameche related?

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:52 PM
Were Don Ameche and Alan (The Horse) Ameche related?

Yes, they were cousins.

Big Klu
06-16-2018, 06:55 PM
On pace for 58-104.

WVRedsFan
06-16-2018, 10:58 PM
Luis's problems might be a sophomore slump or 2017 might have been fool's gold. Either way, the Reds were counting on Luis and other suspects for 2018. It's proven to not have been prudent, and that's sad.

Kingspoint
06-17-2018, 02:59 AM
I think the clock has struck midnight on Austin Brice.

Votto and Floro demonstrate how PFP is supposed to work.

I thought so. It's why I suggested at the beginning of the week that we claim the Mariners' Mike Morin and replace Brice with him. Morin passed through unclaimed and was sent to AAA on Saturday. Would have much rather seen him pitching for us instead of Brice. Relievers should not be given long leashes. Brice's has been too long.

Sea Ray
06-17-2018, 10:41 AM
I don't know that Brice ever wore the golden slipper. I will say that he's one of many Reds who really aren't major league caliber. Brice would never find a spot on the roster of a .500 MLB team

Kingspoint
06-18-2018, 12:52 AM
I don't know that Brice ever wore the golden slipper. I will say that he's one of many Reds who really aren't major league caliber. Brice would never find a spot on the roster of a .500 MLB team

He showed potential through the end of Spring Training last season, then proceeded to bomb in the regular season with Cincinnati. I don't know what or how he did in the Winter, but he had another decent Spring Training. But, with another flop at the major league level, it's time to move on, try to get him through waivers and DFA him. If he passes, he goes to AAA or AA. If not, no big deal.

Too many other Relievers around the leagues, via trade, pick up off waivers, our own AA & AAA pitchers, to waste more chances this year on Brice. They need to make this move Monday. That's four of the last five series where they lost the first two games of the series, four in a row if you only count 3-game series. Can't have a losing atmosphere anymore. They won the last game of the last four series, so the effort is there. Give them some help and replace Brice from a long list of candidates.