Going for the split 8/1/18 vs Tigers

[bleedsred]

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[cumberlandreds]

Tucker debut. Preston that is....

[Kingspoint]

Going against Detroit's hottest Pitcher, which means we should win 6-4.

[Alabama]

Make us all fans P Tuck

[CaiGuy]

What does Dilson have to do to get some playing time. I mean, com'on...Preston Tucker and Mason Williams?

[Kc61]

Winker, Schebler, Duvall and Hamilton looks pretty good right now. Just sayin’.

[cumberlandreds]

First two Reds make an out. Marty and The Cowboy on the call for Reds radio. I expect to hear a lot about UDF mixed with a lot of venom today.

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Votto grounds out to end a quiet Reds first.

[Flair4Horsemen]

First two Reds make an out. Marty and The Cowboy on the call for Reds radio. I expect to hear a lot about UDF mixed with a lot of venom today.

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Votto grounds out to end a quiet Reds first.

wow, the gameday audio app is a full half inning behind

[indy_dave00]

While Schebler is out , I'd like the Reds to start Tucker, Williams and Ervin every day

[NebraskaRed]

wow, the gameday audio app is a full half inning behind

it could just be me, but I've noticed the MLB TV delay keeps getting longer this year.

[cumberlandreds]

Goodrum with a two double for the Tiger-Cats

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VMart lines out to deep LF to the Tigers first.

[CaiGuy]

Loud first inning for Romano.

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At least he got 1 K

[cumberlandreds]

Suarez grounds out to third.

[CaiGuy]

http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/butterbean.jpg

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But oh no, Thom wasn't trying to be mean, LOL.

[Flair4Horsemen]

While Schebler is out , I'd like the Reds to start Tucker, Williams and Ervin every day

With Schebler out I'd like the Reds to just throw Dilson Herrera in LF and see if he can handle it. It would greatly increase his value if he could.

[cumberlandreds]

Williams got on base in some fashion. Work is getting in the way today. :bang:

[CaiGuy]

Ervin making him work.

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Nice AB. 1st and 3rd

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Looked like Tucker had a first pitch as a Red HR, but no dice.

[bleedsred]

Tucker first AB with runners on 1st and 3rd....lines into a DP...

[BluegrassRedleg]

Does Tom Emansky offer a Base-Running Skills video (hosted by Bob Horner)?

[Umkubas]

Tucker first AB with runners on 1st and 3rd....lines into a DP...

0-1.......two runners left stranded

At least two pitchers were involved in the Duvall trade.

The other positive is that Preston makes $585,000 and does not reach arbitration til 2021.

[cumberlandreds]

Tigers with runners at first and third with one out.

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Iglesias doubles in two runs and its 2-0 Tigers. Throw in an e-5 for Suarez too that allowed Iglesias to go to third.

[Tuff Nut]

With Schebler out I'd like the Reds to just throw Dilson Herrera in LF and see if he can handle it. It would greatly increase his value if he could.
Word is, that his arm is weaker than Scooter's, so this idea is a very hard pass, for me... Let the Ofers, play the OF. Gotta figure out which are worth keeping.

[PuffyPig]

Tigers with runners at first and third with one out.

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Iglesias doubles in two runs and its 2-0 Tigers. Throw in an e-5 for Suarez too that allowed Iglesias to go to third.

Romano not getting hit hard this inning, and the Reds defense not doing him any favours.

[cumberlandreds]

The ole 2-3 nubber for out number two. Iglesias hold at third.

[BluegrassRedleg]

They're being a bit harsh with Ervin there. That throw likely didn't make a difference. He still needs better habits of hitting the first cut-off man. Little things like that can be the difference in him staying with the Reds as a reserve OF or being a lifetime minor leaguer.

[Flair4Horsemen]

Word is, that his arm is weaker than Scooter's, so this idea is a very hard pass, for me... Let the Ofers, play the OF. Gotta figure out which are worth keeping.

That was pre-surgery. Post surgery I have no idea.

[cumberlandreds]

Inning finally over, 2-0 Tigers after two.

[Tom Servo]

They're being a bit harsh with Ervin there. That throw likely didn't make a difference.
I noticed this last night too from the booth, just a weird thing to pinpoint.

[NebraskaRed]

Fiers is out with a lower shin contusion

[cumberlandreds]

Hamilton with a one out single. I imagine a bunt will be forthcoming. :p

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Hamilton steals 2nd.

[cumberlandreds]

Peraza K's

Ground out ends the inning.

[Ironman92]

Butterbean

5’11
425 lbs

[Rolando]

Hopefully Ervin gets better habits with more playing time on defense and base running

[cumberlandreds]

First two are on for the Reds. Mason Williams up next.

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4-6-3 Bllahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[CaiGuy]

Oof, double plays will haunt.

[Rolando]

First two are on for the Reds. Mason Williams up next.

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4-6-3 Bllahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Mason Williams batting 5th is a joke

[cumberlandreds]

Goodrum makes a good play to end the Reds inning. 2-0 Tigers in the 4th.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Phil Ervin is never going to want to be in Detroit again.

[NebraskaRed]

Niko Badwhiskey strikes again

[Rolando]

Goodrum makes a good play to end the Reds inning. 2-0 Tigers in the 4th.
I didn't realize Ervin was so slow

[Ironman92]

I didn't realize Ervin was so slow

He’s just average speed. I noticed that early this year when he was in OF some

[Rolando]

He’s just average speed. I noticed that early this year when he was in OF some

He has a had a weird series lots of good and bad

[cumberlandreds]

Aducci homers making it 3-0 Tigers. Lets go ahead and get on the plane to DC.

[Ironman92]

Down and in to a lefty bites them again

[Rolando]

Aducci homers making it 3-0 Tigers. Lets go ahead and get on the plane to DC.

I gotta bad feeling this could be an awful the nats might destroy them

[cumberlandreds]

Nobody covering 2nd on a steal attempt. That's bad.

[BluegrassRedleg]

This team is in "eff it" mode the last two days.

[Kc61]

I gotta bad feeling this could be an awful the nats might destroy them

It’s a different Reds lineup now. Don’t expect winning streaks like a few weeks ago. Schebler will help when he returns, he’s a solid major leaguer.

[Ironman92]

Wow, that woman eating lunch looks just like Shamu. No insult intended...I love watching that water animal do tricks. I saw her on camera and first thing I thought was Shamu. A benign statement with no ill intended.

[Rolando]

I thought Riggleman was old school fundamentals? I guess they slipped school

[Ironman92]

This team is in "eff it" mode the last two days.

I said to start yesterday’s thread this little series worried me

[cumberlandreds]

Marty said Riggelman chewed some butt between innings.

[Rolando]

It’s a different Reds lineup now. Don’t expect winning streaks like a few weeks ago. Schebler will help when he returns, he’s a solid major leaguer.

The good news with the losses that will so they are still awful and there won't reason to keep Riggleman and not make changes.

[Kc61]

The good news with the losses that will so they are still awful and there won't reason to keep Riggleman and not make changes.

The bad news with the losses is that the Reds were a good team for a few months and now they appear not to be.

At least with this lineup.

[Flair4Horsemen]

Wow, that woman eating lunch looks just like Shamu. No insult intended...I love watching that water animal do tricks. I saw her on camera and first thing I thought was Shamu. A benign statement with no ill intended.

It's ok not to post everything that comes to mind.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds out in order in the 5th.

[NebraskaRed]

I don't agree with some things Riggleman does (THE BUNTING!), but I gotta say, the way he confronts players is something I wished Price had done.

[Tony Cloninger]

Time for a Chuckie like thread. Let the losing continue until they get a Top 5 pick.

[cumberlandreds]

Tigers out in order in their half of the fifth. 3-0 Tigers.

[cumberlandreds]

Stumpf the Band is on to pitch with his 6.75 ERA.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds out in order once again. I think they are just wanting to do the tourist stuff in DC as quick as they can.

[CaiGuy]

Stumpf the Band is on to pitch with his 6.75 ERA.

Mows 'em down, get's all the way to 6.56.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds' offense

https://media.giphy.com/media/cmyq5El3zTGZ885th1/giphy.gif

[klw]

Stumpf the Band is on to pitch with his 6.75 ERA.

Lets hope the Reds tune him up

[Rolando]

The bad news with the losses is that the Reds were a good team for a few months and now they appear not to be.

At least with this lineup.
So basically nothing's changed expect a hot streak

[Tom Servo]

See I don't get the quick hook here just because one runner reached via single.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That bounce. The Reds have clearly angered the baseball gods.

[Ironman92]

92 mph down the middle

This little series sucks.

[CaiGuy]

Is Sal crying?

[mhs95_06]

That bounce. The Reds have clearly angered the baseball gods.

Yes that time Ervin hit the cut-off guy, while not the best throw to him, and the relay was in time, but the hop burnt the Reds!

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92 mph down the middle

This little series sucks.

The back door breaking ball got too much of the door on a 1-2 count.

[mhs95_06]

Yes that time Ervin hit the cut-off guy, while not the best throw to him, and the relay was in time, but the hop burnt the Reds!

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The back door breaking ball got too much of the door on a 1-2 count.

But Wandy is not waling batters since he came back up!

[BluegrassRedleg]

I was thinking the exact same thing Thom said (which kinda scares me). Baseball is a quirky game. Everything this bad Tigers team is doing is gold, and the resurgent Reds can't do anything right.

[CaiGuy]

See I don't get the quick hook here just because one runner reached via single.

Yeah, at 89 pitches and no double switches needing to be made, I see no reason not to let him to try to finish the inning. Maybe he comes out of it with a "quality " start.

[Tony Cloninger]

They really want to force feed Wandy to succeed. Have they learned nothing from the Will McEnaney or Bill Scherrer histories.

[mhs95_06]

Reds relievers not doing well with inherited runners. Ervin back to airmailing throws to the cut-off!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Ervin's a guy I've been rooting for, but he may not survive this. Unreal.

[CaiGuy]

LOL - Philip Ervin has got himself on Thom's list for life now.

[mhs95_06]

Ervin needs to go back to minors when Schebler is ready, if not before.

[NebraskaRed]

Schebler is only batting in Louisville still, right?

[BCubb2003]

Ervin needs to go back to minors when Schebler is ready, if not before.

Schebler for MVP.

[Ironman92]

Geesh

[Strikes Out Looking]

Anyone actually know Schebler's status?

[NebraskaRed]

so who's going to sneak into the clubhouse and record Riggleman going on a Lee Elia-type tirade?

[Tom Servo]

Anyone actually know Schebler's status?
He's DHing for Louisville, it's the throwing that's giving him trouble.

[CaiGuy]

Tucker can become a fully initiated 2018 Red with a slam here.

[NebraskaRed]

it's your big chance, Preston...

[CaiGuy]

Tucker can become a fully initiated 2018 Red with a slam here.

I accept this outcome as well.

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Casali initiation time now.

[Strikes Out Looking]

He's DHing for Louisville, it's the throwing that's giving him trouble.

I think he's faking it and really just wants to play 2b like the rest of the lame arm club Dick W. has collected.

[Tom Servo]

I honestly believe Ervin's bat might be coming around, he was hitting in AAA and he's hitting now. The other stuff definitely needs tightening up though.

[NebraskaRed]

imagine what this game would look like if Sal had been given a chance to get out of that inning.

[CaiGuy]

I think he's faking it and really just wants to play 2b like the rest of the lame arm club Dick W. has collected.

He have to settle for Billings then.

2B Depth Chart:

ML - Scooter
AAA - Senzel
AA - Herrera
A+ - Long
A - India

[mhs95_06]

Need to get the 4th and 5th runs in this inning, even if they don't get any hits!

[PuffyPig]

imagine what this game would look like if Sal had been given a chance to get out of that inning.

They may well be down 4-0, as everything (including the Red's hits) would likely have turned out different. There is no way of actually knowing.

[mhs95_06]

imagine what this game would look like if Sal had been given a chance to get out of that inning.

Might have looked like had he got out of the inning. If he did, I doubt the Tigers would have left that pitcher in for 5 straight hits, or maybe not even brought him in at all.

[Flair4Horsemen]

Reds are going to win this.

[CaiGuy]

Billy

[Tom Servo]

imagine what this game would look like if Sal had been given a chance to get out of that inning.
Riggleman played himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr7CKWxqhtw

[NebraskaRed]

I did the Dr. Strange thing and looked at all of the possible outcomes of leaving Sal in the game. You're all wrong.

[CaiGuy]

That was dumb.

[NebraskaRed]

Casali with that slide into home

https://media.giphy.com/media/i2GADdaJIscPS/giphy.gif

[NC Reds]

That may have been the worst base running decision I have ever seen.

[klw]

Peraza remains allergic to taking pitches to allow Billy to steal.

[CaiGuy]

Reds' offense

https://media.giphy.com/media/cmyq5El3zTGZ885th1/giphy.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/520a5c457cb70ba1cedd73c6ddf40184/tenor.gif

[mhs95_06]

Casali trying to be a hero. Running on the contact play may have been a much better play ending with Hamilton and Casali on 2nd and 3rd with one out, or worst case 1st and 2nd with 1 out, or maybe the run scores and the tying run is on 2nd with one out.

[ochoa30]

The amount of bone headed plays this series and really since the all star break have been ridiculous. What the heck is Casali thinking there? You're a freaking catcher dude, lol

[mhs95_06]

Peraza remains allergic to taking pitches to allow Billy to steal.

Billy never tries to steal when he does take.

[50YrRedsFan]

The Reds have to be one of the worst teams on the basepaths.

[klw]

He's DHing for Louisville, it's the throwing that's giving him trouble.

Same problem for Ervin.

You can't spell Ervin without an "E"

Ervin would quit but he can't throw in the towel


That's all I've got, enjoy the veal!

[mhs95_06]

They need a sign for Billy that he must steal and Peraza must take.

[klw]

Billy never tries to steal when he does take.

Well that is because poor Billy is in shock when it happens.

[NebraskaRed]

Niko Tastybourbon cannot be stopped

[PuffyPig]

The amount of bone headed plays this series and really since the all star break have been ridiculous. What the heck is Casali thinking there? You're a freaking catcher dude, lol

I was surprised he didn't score from 2nd on Hamilton's long single, then remembered who was on base.

It's seems he forgot also.

[mhs95_06]

Somebody covered 2nd but Garrett wasn't paying attention to the runner, and wasn't paying attention to throwing strikes either!

[50YrRedsFan]

Garrett has not impressed me. Always struggling with control. I don't like him in game deciding situations.

[Tom Servo]

Hate to say it but Amir's season is starting to resemble Wandy Peralta from last year a bit. An amazing April and then just a slow slide down the pole towards mediocrity.

[NebraskaRed]

Hate to say it but Amir's season is starting to resemble Wandy Peralta from last year a bit. An amazing April and then just a slow slide down the pole towards mediocrity.

I'd guess he's not completely healthy. Even before whatever happened with his ankle last week.

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Hernandez and Hughes were really good pickups

[Strikes Out Looking]

Hernandez and Hughes have options/contracts for next year correct? I ask because some writer was amazed the Reds didn't trade them saying they were FA's at the end of the year.

[Baseballdad37]

Hernandez once again lights out!! Sure glad he wasn’t traded!!

[BillDoran]

I'd guess he's not completely healthy. Even before whatever happened with his ankle last week.

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Hernandez and Hughes were really good pickups

This front office is hardly proactive. But when they do getting around to making a decision, it's generally a good one.

[Tom Servo]

Hernandez and Hughes have options/contracts for next year correct? I ask because some writer was amazed the Reds didn't trade them saying they were FA's at the end of the year.
Both under contract for next season.

[Baseballdad37]

Hernandez and Hughes have options/contracts for next year correct? I ask because some writer was amazed the Reds didn't trade them saying they were FA's at the end of the year.

Signed for next year! Btw a lot of ignorant writers out there that don’t have a clue what they are talking about!!

[mhs95_06]

Votto can judge nothing about a ball in flight unless its from the pitchers hand!

[PuffyPig]

Votto can judge nothing about a ball in flight unless its from the pitchers hand!

He actually looked like he played it OK, just the circumstances.

[mhs95_06]

Suarez says he never swings for home runs, but he took way too big of swings on the 2-0 and 2-1 pitches! Singles and station to station on the bases was working fine last inning until someone tried to be a hero!

[Coopdaddy67]

Votto can judge nothing about a ball in flight unless its from the pitchers hand!

There's really nothing he could do. If Votto's a step further towards 2B and he catches it, Votto's risking getting doubled up. Just a really unlucky play that you only see a handful of times a year.

[Rolando]

Suarez says he never swings for home runs, but he took way too big of swings on the 2-0 and 2-1 pitches! Singles and station to station on the bases was working fine last inning until someone tried to be a hero!

Well to his defense he would have had single if nor for votto

[ochoa30]

Just one of those series. The Tigers get every little break and the reds beating themselves. Should have been at worse a split but what can you do.

[CaiGuy]

Walk. Rally time.

[klw]

Walk. Rally time.

or not
7-4 final

[50YrRedsFan]

Billy with another K.

Reds swept by the Tigers. Bad showing by the Reds after winning 3 of 4 from the Phillies. Still a long way to go to respectability.

[Alabama]

Signed for next year! Btw a lot of ignorant writers out there that don’t have a clue what they are talking about!!

They 100% should have been moved. Guys like them were getting decent returns this year. Now they get to come in and pitch 4 innings a week next year for a 90 loss team. Whippee

[CarolinaRedleg]

On to DC

[Tony Cloninger]

What worries me about Scott and Jesse is that they become the regular players version of Disco and the Homer. Always waiting for them to get healthy. Always something happening to get them hurt.

[Ironman92]

Man that was irritating

[The Operator]

Nobody covering the bag on a stolen base

For all the Riggleman love this team shows pretty poor fundamentals still

[Kingspoint]

I blame Detroit and Pittsburgh for not being "1st Place Clubs".

Sure missed those "RBI's" of Duvall, too.

Seriously, though, inconsistency will come from the young players. Schebler's return will be a big boost.

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Nobody covering the bag on a stolen base

For all the Riggleman love this team shows pretty poor fundamentals still

And, that gets instilled during Spring Training.

[cumberlandreds]

This series was the Reds telling us we just aren't that good yet. Yeesh, what a bad two games. Other than Bailey's good performance not much good can be taken from this series. On to DC. Expect some rain delays and maybe a rain out over the next two days. Flash flood watches are in effect through Friday. This has been one of the wettest summers on record for DC and it shows no sign of stopping. Outside chance I may be at Saturday game. I put in for tickets in our company's corporate box and should find out today if got picked. I never win these so I am not expecting them.