Reds @ Mets 5-1-19

[Ron Madden]

Reds
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Winker CF
Puig RF
Dietrich LF
Barnhart C
Iglesias SS
DeSclafan P
Peraza 2B

Mets
McNeil LF
Alonso 1B
Cano. 2B
Comforto RF
Davis. 3B
Nimmo CF
Rosaerio SS
Midi C
DeGrom P

[cumberlandreds]

Ah...back to the pitcher hitting 8th. Lovely...............

[Spanky]

Pitcher hitting 8th when Reds score 6 or more runs = Great performance from the Hitters
pitcher hitting 8th when Reds score 3 or less runs = Poor lineup construction.

[adkindo]

no Schebler in the lineup again....Winker in CF

[JCM11]

Dietrich and Winker in the same OF? Hope Disco has his ground ball game working.

[DocRed]

no Schebler in the lineup again....Winker in CF

Yep, Friday will be an interesting day...

[DocRed]

Ah...back to the pitcher hitting 8th. Lovely...............

Puzzling considering Peraza has done pretty well in his short time hitting leadoff recently. Sometimes I wonder if Bell consults with a Magic 8 ball he has on his office desk when constructing lineups.

[HammerTime]

Yep, Friday will be an interesting day...

If they call him up and don't start him, I may lead a riot downtown. (Kidding of course, can't be too careful these days)

[Kc61]

Puzzling considering Peraza has done pretty well in his short time hitting leadoff recently. Sometimes I wonder if Bell consults with a Magic 8 ball he has on his office desk when constructing lineups.

I think the reason for Votto up first is that the Mets’ ace pitcher deGrom is going.

Peraza is hitting ok, but Bell probably thinks deGrom is a bit much for him in the lead off spot.

Not commenting on the wisdom of it, but that’s my guess why the decision was made.

[Ron Madden]

Puzzling considering Peraza has done pretty well in his short time hitting leadoff recently. Sometimes I wonder if Bell consults with a Magic 8 ball he has on his office desk when constructing lineups.

I don’t know for sure but.. Votto and Geno get more ABs hitting 1 and 2
I guess Bell is hoping Peraza will be on base when Votto and Suarez come to the plate.

[Ron Madden]

Looks like It’s cold in NY with drizzling rain

[SlimJim11]

Puzzling considering Peraza has done pretty well in his short time hitting leadoff recently. Sometimes I wonder if Bell consults with a Magic 8 ball he has on his office desk when constructing lineups.



not sure .263/.300/.316 is doing pretty well. maybe for peraza, but not for leadoff.

[mamell]

Ah...back to the pitcher hitting 8th. Lovely...............

Votto's reward for running bases like a lost gazelle with a broken leg chased by hungry lions.

[mamell]

The seats in NY don't exactly look like a 2nd place team's attendance. Perhaps it might qualify for a toilet paper manufacturers embossing pattern trade association meeting, but heck...cold and drizzling..

[NebraskaRed]

deGrom has had a few bad outings. Now he gets to return to brilliance against the Reds lineup.

[mth123]

Lefty yesterday, Peraza leads off. Righty today, Peraza bats 9th. That simple IMO.

[Ron Madden]

not sure .263/.300/.316 is doing pretty well. maybe for peraza, but not for leadoff.

Peraza is slashing.350/.490/.550 in his last 7 games.
I’d say he’s done well lately

[Tom Servo]

Nice AB by Winker, but he's no Phil Ervin. But then again, who is?

[mamell]

At least no Scott Schebler specials this inning..

[kaldaniels]

Winker really is having great AB recently. Even when results are poor.

[SlimJim11]

Peraza is slashing.350/.490/.550 in his last 7 games.
I’d say he’s done well lately

but its not due to him batting leadoff. in those 7 days he's hit leadoff twice and 9th 3 times. he didn't start the other 2.

[Ron Madden]

but its not due to him batting leadoff. in those 7 days he's hit leadoff twice and 9th 3 times. he didn't start the other 2.

I didn’t say it was a result of him hitting leadoff, just that he’s done pretty well his last 7 games

[SlimJim11]

I didn’t say it was a result of him hitting leadoff, just that he’s done pretty well his last 7 games


you didn't, but the quote i was originally responding to did.

[Kc61]

Disco has a low WHIP this year, not allowing too many base runners.

But five homers allowed already.

Mets announcers note a severe lefty/righty split this year, lefties hitting Disco well in the early going but not righties.

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No score after one inning.

[NebraskaRed]

"Pirates have already won their SECOND in a row"

Give it up to Thom and his ability to emphasize exactly the things that are noteworthy.

[kaldaniels]

Thom couldn’t wait to mention the PED issue with Cano during his AB.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Disco has a low WHIP this year, not allowing too many base runners.

But five homers allowed already.

Mets announcers note a severe lefty/righty split this year, lefties hitting Disco well in the early going but not righties.

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No score after one inning.

There has been 78 pitchers to give up 5 or more HRs this year

[NebraskaRed]

Thom is in love with deGrom's ability to go hitless thru 1 and a half innings

[Kc61]

Nothing doing for Reds in second.

[NebraskaRed]

and the Pirates winning two...TWO...games in a row

[mamell]

Looks to be another long night for Reds bats and us as fans unfortunately..

[Ron Madden]

Looks to be another long night for Reds bats and us as fans unfortunately..

It’s the bottom of the 2nd inning

[Tom Servo]

Some good pitching here from Disco, throwing the high fastball might just be a game changer for him.

[mamell]

It’s the bottom of the 2nd inning

That's why I like being wrong on occasion..

[Maldez]

Winker really is having great AB recently. Even when results are poor.

Wonder what that exchange of looks between Winker and degrom was about...Winker'd foul off a fastball, then lock eyes on degrom and smirk, as if to say "Just missed that one, go ahead and throw that pitch again", and degrom would return the smirk.

[Ron Madden]

Strike one on Peraza was way outside

[SlimJim11]

Did Thom just bash Syndergaard as not living up to the hype? Is Thom aware of his 86 starts prior to this season?

[Ron Madden]

McNeil is a hitter

[NebraskaRed]

Jeff McNeil is history's greatest monster

[Big Klu]

Did Thom just bash Syndergaard as not living up to the hype? Is Thom aware of his 86 starts prior to this season?

Yeah, Thor is a stiff.

[mamell]

Close to being 1-0, but only in horse shoes and hand grenades..

[kaldaniels]

Wonder what that exchange of looks between Winker and degrom was about...Winker'd foul off a fastball, then lock eyes on degrom and smirk, as if to say "Just missed that one, go ahead and throw that pitch again", and degrom would return the smirk.

I saw that. I think they were having a good time.

[NebraskaRed]

"Sandy Koufax...never lived up to the hype" - Thom probably later in the game

[Tom Servo]

thank you Nimmo!

[NebraskaRed]

very nice AB by Winker. He seems to have studied at the feet of Ervin.

[50YrRedsFan]

Puig pulling off the ball. Won't be able to get to the outside corner breaking ball.

[Tom Servo]

Puig pulling off the ball. Won't be able to get to the outside corner breaking ball.
called it

[NebraskaRed]

a run would be nice. Getting his pitch count up regardless.

[50YrRedsFan]

Scary hbp. If that was his hand, he would have broken something

[Falls City Beer]

Remember when getting rid of Hamilton was going to solve the offensive puzzle? How is this offense worse than last year’s?

[50YrRedsFan]

Remember when getting rid of Hamilton was going to solve the offensive puzzle? How is this offense worse than last year’s?

Striking out more (24.4% team ratio), fewer walks, less hard hit balls, no team speed to beat out hits or steal bases.

[mamell]

urrrrg! I could smell that before it left his hand.

[Tom Servo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6hZZ2d7kI

[NebraskaRed]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7Zesyac4CuSN5rsA/giphy.gif

[Ron Madden]

I knew Tucker would swing and miss at a breaking ball right there

[kaldaniels]

I don’t mind it but I’m suprised Welsh tweets during broadcasts.

[NebraskaRed]

I see more and more people tweet/comment about a teaming going 3 or 4 innings without getting a hit. It isn't that uncommon, so why make note of it?

[50YrRedsFan]

I see more and more people tweet/comment about a teaming going 3 or 4 innings without getting a hit. It isn't that uncommon/

not for the Reds

[mamell]

I knew Tucker would swing and miss at a breaking ball right there

I think my wife in the next room watching something else knew it..

[Tom Servo]

ball 4 to Conforto was a strike

[50YrRedsFan]

ball 4 to Conforto was a strike

agreed

[NebraskaRed]

I was in favor of the Reds signing AJ Pollock. Looks like that would have been a mistake.

[NebraskaRed]

Nimmo hits a 2 run bomb in GABP, but it's caught by Winker at Citi Field

[NC Reds]

Winker and CF go together like whiskey and coke.

[50YrRedsFan]

I was in favor of the Reds signing AJ Pollock. Looks like that would have been a mistake.

Many players going through tough times. It makes me think players should continue to play during the off season.

[mamell]

Yey...gonna get some rain tonight here in SC.. We can use a bit..

[Tom Servo]

a hit!

[NebraskaRed]

Disco breaks up the no hitter

[Kc61]

Disco with an opposite field single.

Maybe hitting oppo isn’t a terrible idea.

[NebraskaRed]

I believe Keith Hernandez just called him Perazo

[50YrRedsFan]

I believe Keith Hernandez just called him Perazo

you're not listening to Thom?

[RiverRat13]

Senzel will hopefully help, but the offense is going to be an uphill battle as long as it has all three of Iglesias, Tucker, and Peraza in the lineup.

[onehand]

How do you not move Disco over to 2B by Sac Bunt?

[NebraskaRed]

you're not listening to Thom?

switched it up

[50YrRedsFan]

Senzel will hopefully help, but the offense is going to be an uphill battle as long as it has all three of Iglesias, Tucker, and Peraza in the lineup.

Add Puig and Kemp when he gets back. Not pretty.

[RedTeamGo!]

Disco’s ERA down to 3.68 and he hit 96.5 mph tonight. We still talking about DFA’ing him or nah?

[InsaneinthBrame]

Hope he is ok

[Tom Servo]

Disco’s ERA down to 3.68 and he hit 96.5 mph tonight. We still talking about DFA’ing him or nah?
Definitely looking like a superior option to Gio Gonzalez at the moment, as I said earlier the high fastball adjustment is working wonders. Was never personally in favor of a DFA though.

[Kc61]

Disco ends the fifth striking out the pitcher, no score.

[50YrRedsFan]

Disco throwing well tonight. After Bell burnt the bullpen down last night, Disco needs to go at least 7.

[Tom Servo]

ughhh another very deep flyout

[Tom Servo]

Advice from Ervin paying dividends for Winker.

[Tony Cloninger]

Disco is just inconsistent. For every Fly Robin Fly and Knock on Wood there is Push Push in the Bush and Disco Duck.

[Tom Servo]

darn, nice effort from Wink though

[Kc61]

Nice try by Winker in CF, but couldn’t quite get there, ball off his glove, double.

Disco out, Peralta in, Schebler coming into game in double switch.

I assume Dietrich coming out.

[NC Reds]

THom is displeased.

[Stray]

no idea why you pull Disco there

[Red Raindog]

Bell loves himself some bullpen


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[HammerTime]

Bulllpen is spent and he pulls him early over that? Geeesh.

[Larry Schuler]

Thom’s pouty “in disbelief” voice is so pleasing to listen to.

[BluegrassRedleg]

WTH is Bell doing?


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[JCM11]

Captain Hook pulls Disco after 85 pitches of a dominant performance.

[Griffey012]

darn, nice effort from Wink though

He got a great break on that. Those hard, low liners are the hardest ball to judge in CF in my opinion.

[Tom Servo]

If I'm going to have to hear this incredulous tone from Thom about pitch counts and starters innings all year I'm gonna lose it.

[Red Raindog]

THom is displeased.

One of the rare times I have to agree with him


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[HammerTime]

Disco is just inconsistent. For every Fly Robin Fly and Knock on Wood there is Push Push in the Bush and Disco Duck.

I’ll take an inconsistent 3.5 ERA he has currently.

[Kc61]

Double switch will enable Peralta to pitch a longer stint.

Nice idea by Bell who kept switching off relievers last night.

[kaldaniels]

He got a great break on that. Those hard, low liners are the hardest ball to judge in CF in my opinion.

Welsh started in on how Winker misjudged it but quickly shut up after the replay.

[UPRedsFan]

Captain Hook pulls Disco after 85 pitches of a dominant performance.

Bell and Johnson have guided the Reds pitching to the 4th best ERA in baseball and the second least number of runs allowed. I’m not second guessing these guys’ decisions.

[mgbrown66]

Bell won’t stop until every bullpen arm just falls off. WTF

[Red Raindog]

Bell and Johnson have guided the Reds pitching to the 4th best ERA in baseball and the second least number of runs allowed. I’m not second guessing these guys’ decisions.

Fair point but I have to worry about the sustainability of this process


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[RED VAN HOT]

Do you use Bowman next inning?

[UPRedsFan]

Fair point but I have to worry about the sustainability of this process Pro
Don’t you think they know how many games there are in the season? I’m sure they are aware of usage.

[Tom Servo]

Nice AB from Barnhart to draw the walk. Ervin-esque.

[Ron Madden]

Disco is just inconsistent. For every Fly Robin Fly and Knock on Wood there is Push Push in the Bush and Disco Duck.

I’m happy that Anthony DeSclafani is still a Cincinnati Red

[Tony Cloninger]

Bulllpen is spent and he pulls him early over that? Geeesh.


Is this what they signed up for when they hired him?

I mean this is over the top.

[fielder's choice]

Schebler right on cue

[Jomama]

Where oh where is Nick Senzel?

[Tom Servo]

alright, no more Schebler

[JCM11]

Brilliant double switch getting the hopeless Schebler in the game.

[HammerTime]

I’ll buy his ticket to Louisville right now.

[BluegrassRedleg]

No organization with any ounce of pride would still have Scott Schebler sabotaging its offense.


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[TheBigLebowski]

For crying out loud - ENOUGH Scheppler. Criminy. How much do we have to tolerate???

[Larry Schuler]

I hope it stays tied until the 10th or 13th and the Mets can win.

[UPRedsFan]

Is this what they signed up for when they hired him?

I mean this is over the top.

2nd least amount of runs allowed. 2nd only to Tampa. I’ll take over the top with those results

[HammerTime]

Is this what they signed up for when they hired him?

I mean this is over the top.

It does seem that way, but they have a top 5 ERA so hard to complain too much.

[Tony Cloninger]

Scott is the new Hoover

[Kc61]

I guess Bell doesn’t bunt as much as Price and Riggleman. That time, it might have been the smart move. Schebler swinging away isn’t often successful these days.

[kaldaniels]

I mean I root for Schebler to fail but not fail that bad.

[Tony Cloninger]

It does seem that way, but they have a top 5 ERA so hard to complain too much.


Oh you just watch me. Oh Boy just watch me. Channeling my inner Thom.

[ochoa30]

I mean I root for Schebler to fail but not fail that bad.

You know you're struggling when fans would be content with you only making 1 out, lol.

[malcontent]

I honestly thought they were going to push a run across.

But the Frazier Return took care of business.

[Tony Cloninger]

2nd least amount of runs allowed. 2nd only to Tampa. I’ll take over the top with those results

Not sustainable at this rate. I think even the 1975 Oakland A’s bullpen would get tired.

[TheBigLebowski]

I honestly thought they were going to push a run across.

But the Frazier Return took care of business.

It’s the gift that keeps on takin’.

[mamell]

Reds hitters with bases loaded with nobody out could make my 60 year old torn rotator cuff look great..even after running my finger through a table saw..

Overkill ya think?

[Ladeda]

It does seem that way, but they have a top 5 ERA so hard to complain too much.


When the pen is overworked and the SP is kicking tail-- I prefer to ride the hot hand. I'd much prefer to have Tony D out there in the 7th vs Peralta bc he was pitching so well. Sometimes you actually need your starters to go more than 6 IP.

[Tom Servo]

Don't get the strategy of letting Wandy face all these right handers here, not working out well.

[Red Raindog]

Don’t you think they know how many games there are in the season? I’m sure they are aware of usage.

Yes
I do they think just might have a clue about the number of games scheduled for a National League team.



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[Kc61]

Two on, one out, bottom seven, Peralta can’t get out the righties tonight.

So Hughes coming in to get the double play.

[mamell]

I honestly thought they were going to push a run across.

But the Frazier Return took care of business.

I can't honestly say that I would have agreed once it was Schebler..

[BluegrassRedleg]

If only this situation could have been foreseen...

[mamell]

Is anyone sure Bell really wants to manage much longer?

[Tony Cloninger]

Offense still blows.

[NC Reds]

Good job by Hughes.

[mamell]

Oh BOY! Duke getting ready to lose the game for us! Excited yet anyone?

[Kc61]

Nice K for Hughes. Two out, two on.

Hughes or Duke? Lefty coming up, Dominic Smith.

Hughes staying in.

Out, grounder 1-3.

[RED VAN HOT]

Duke getting ready in the pen.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Well at least he stopped using Duke

[Tom Servo]

Great work from Hughes

[Ron Madden]

Good Job Hughes!

[TheBigLebowski]

Alright. We’re scoring 2 here. I’m calling it.

[mamell]

Well at least he stopped using Duke

Never underestimate Bell's ability to make the wrong call.. He's Super Wrong Caller.. Able to leap off of tall buildings..

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Alright. We’re scoring 2 here. I’m calling it.
I'll mail you an IOU for a dollar if they do..

[kaldaniels]

Thom praising O’Rourke’s numbers before realizing they are AAA stats.

[NC Reds]

Bad call ump

[BluegrassRedleg]

Not a strike, but also too close to take. Gotta foul that thing off if you don't like it.

[Ron Madden]

Two of those strikes on Joey were outside

[kaldaniels]

Not a strike, but also too close to take. Gotta foul that thing off if you don't like it.

I’ll never get on a guy too much for not swinging at a ball outside the zone.

[Sea Ray]

Double switch will enable Peralta to pitch a longer stint.

Nice idea by Bell who kept switching off relievers last night.

He pitched an extra third of an inning. Big deal. These early hooks by Bell do not have the rest of the game or the rest of the season in mind. His starters have been very good this yr yet Bell's been pulling 'em in the 5th/6th innings regardless. This will have ramifications later on. There's reason why there's term "managing like it's the 7th game of the World Series. In the 7th game of the WS you don't have to worry about 2 mos down the road or whether you night run out of pitchers in the 10th inning

[Kc61]

Two outs, Winker walks, Puig up, Lugo replacing the lefty reliever.

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He pitched an extra third of an inning. Big deal. These early hooks by Bell do not have the rest of the game or the rest of the season in mind. His starters have been very good this yr yet Bell's been pulling 'em in the 5th/6th innings regardless. This will have ramifications later on. There's reason why there's term "managing like it's the 7th game of the World Series. In the 7th game of the WS you don't have to worry about 2 mos down the road or whether you night run out of pitchers in the 10th inning

Price showed us what happens if you try to get seven innings from a starter these days.

Peralta pitched to four batters, not one or two. If he was more effective he would have pitched even longer.

[Sea Ray]

Well at least he stopped using Duke

I'm sure we'll see Duke before this one's over

[malcontent]

Someone needs to inform Votto that pitchers aren't going 3-2 all the time on him anymore.

[kaldaniels]

Apparently to Thom bringing in the righty in vs Puig means we are now worshiping the computers.

[Shoeless Jeff]

Can we stop swinging at all the first pitches and actually try to work a walk!����

[Sea Ray]

Two outs, Winker walks, Puig up, Lugo replacing the lefty reliever.

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Price showed us what happens if you try to get seven innings from a starter these days.

Peralta pitched to four batters, not one or two. If he was more effective he would have pitched even longer.

That's another problem. Effectiveness. How many guys in Bell's pen will be more effective than Disco was? Certainly not Peralta

[mamell]

You could just about read O'roark's lips heading to the dug out.. It wasn't mentioning how thrilled he was to be there..

[Tony Cloninger]

Two of those strikes on Joey were outside


This is becoming a broken record. The umpires are just not down with Votto and his Ted Williams act anymore.

[mhs95_06]

Don’t you think they know how many games there are in the season? I’m sure they are aware of usage.

But they sell more tickets trying to be as good early as they can!

[Big Klu]

Apparently to Thom bringing in the righty in vs Puig means we are now worshiping the computers.

"The ol' computer got him!"

"COMPUTER!!!"

[Red Raindog]

Puig crushes one but ......... snakebit


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[HammerTime]

Still can’t catch a freaking break at the plate.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Of course.

[Ron Madden]

Well I’ll be damned!

We can’t buy a break

[TheBigLebowski]

This team is both bad and unlucky as hell. Deadly combo.

[Kc61]

That's another problem. Effectiveness. How many guys in Bell's pen will be more effective than Disco was? Certainly not Peralta

If you think you’re going to survive trying to have 200 inning starters in this era, you’re the only one. If the bullpen needs to be better they should make some moves. It’s a different era, Bell is doing what every manager does.

[mamell]

Mercy! I thought Puig was gonna knock him through the wall there..

[Falls City Beer]

The only hitter in this lineup gaining respect from opposing pitchers is Winker. Every other hitter will get pitched to without hesitation.

[mhs95_06]

I guess Bell doesn’t bunt as much as Price and Riggleman. That time, it might have been the smart move. Schebler swinging away isn’t often successful these days.

But Schebler can't bunt either.

[Kc61]

Glad to see Puig hit that ball with authority. Maybe he’ll come around soon. They miss his long ball bat.

[HammerTime]

This is becoming a broken record. The umpires are just not down with Votto and his Ted Williams act anymore.

Is this a serious post? :laugh: Excellent troll if not.

[TheBigLebowski]

This is becoming a broken record. The umpires are just not down with Votto and his Ted Williams act anymore.

Yeah, Joey is not the only hitter in the league to deal with slightly imperfect strike zones. The effrontery on display each time he K’s is a tired act. He’s the problem. Not the umps.

[Kc61]

But Schebler can't bunt either.

I seem to recall he’s not too bad at it. Maybe I’m wrong. Nobody can bunt anymore, true.

[Ron Madden]

This is becoming a broken record. The umpires are just not down with Votto and his Ted Williams act anymore.

No. It’s that most of today’s umpires do a terrible job calling balls and strikes

[Tony Cloninger]

Is this a serious post? :laugh: Excellent troll if not.

Have you seen how long I’ve been here? You don’t last long without some sarcasm and wit.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thom :laugh:

These panties are in such a wad tonight, they'll need the jaws of life to save them.

[mamell]

But Schebler can't bunt either.

He can at least walk if he doesn't swing the bat..

[Kc61]

Zach Duke to face Cano. A bridge too far.

[NC Reds]

Lol more outraged THom

[HammerTime]

Alright Duke, this is the only reason you are here. You simply have to get this out.

[InsaneinthBrame]

The one thing Schebler has done well is walk this year. Who would have thought that. Highest walk rate on team at 15.9%:eek:

[malcontent]

Yeah, Joey is not the only hitter in the league to deal with slightly imperfect strike zones. The effrontery on display each time he K’s is a tired act. He’s the problem. Not the umps.
Guy gets down to his last strike, and unless it's 3-2, he better be ready to protect the plate.

[mamell]

....and the game is over.. Mets go to the world series in this game..

[adkindo]

I see we have another offensive explosion fellas

[mhs95_06]

I’ll never get on a guy too much for not swinging at a ball outside the zone.

Yes, if you do very much, you'll never get one in the zone!

[Kc61]

I don’t like this move because Hughes hardly ever allows homers. So even if Cano hits him, it’s likely in the ballpark. And Hughes was just mowing them down.

Hope this works but I wouldn’t have made that pitching change.

[mamell]

I see we have another offensive explosion fellas
By we you mean them?

[50YrRedsFan]

The end may be near.

[Sea Ray]

If you think you’re going to survive trying to have 200 inning starters in this era, you’re the only one. If the bullpen needs to be better they should make some moves. It’s a different era, Bell is doing what every manager does.

The era isn't as different as you might think. If I'm the Mets I thank him for pulling Disco

[Tony Cloninger]

If you think you’re going to survive trying to have 200 inning starters in this era, you’re the only one. If the bullpen needs to be better they should make some moves. It’s a different era, Bell is doing what every manager does.


And doing what every manager does because it’s analytics driven is better than what managers were doing for about 50 to 100 years without the data? No one is saying let’s go back to having starters gut through 7-9 innings at 120-30 pitches a start. But you need one of your starters to be allowed some starts to go longer. Having to justify all these relievers when they are not anywhere near let’s say a Yankees bullpen is not the answer either.
Sometimes the best option is your starter.

[NC Reds]

The Duke is A-number-1 and ready to escape from New York with a win.

[Tony Cloninger]

No. It’s that most of today’s umpires do a terrible job calling balls and strikes


Yes. I’ve been saying this since the mid 2000s.

[paulrichjr]

Just like we all thought. Zach Duke got them out!

[adkindo]

we survived Duke

[BluegrassRedleg]

Easy inning may have saved Thom's life. A stroke was imminent.

[mamell]

Duke didn't cough it up. Alert the press..

[Kc61]

The era isn't as different as you might think. If I'm the Mets I thank him for pulling Disco

Actually the era is very different. I’ve posted the numbers. Over the past several years, relief innings have increased very significantly MLB-wide. Starting innings are well down.

And as for the Mets thanking Bell, they are scoreless through 8 innings with all the Reds’ relief usage. Not sure what they would thank the Reds for.

Not sure how Disco could have done much better and he might have done worse.

[mamell]

Just like we all thought. Zach Duke got them out!

I knew he was gonna do great.. I just thought it would be for the other team.

[Ron Madden]

I don’t like this move because Hughes hardly ever allows homers. So even if Cano hits him, it’s likely in the ballpark. And Hughes was just mowing them down.

Hope this works but I wouldn’t have made that pitching change.

I think the pitchers spot in the order is coming up, they woulda pinch hit for Hughes anyway

[RedTeamGo!]

Imagine paying actual money to see this game in person.

[Kc61]

I think the pitchers spot in the order is coming up, they woulda pinch hit for Hughes anyway

I was referring to Duke against Cano. It worked out so, all’s well.

[NC Reds]

THom’s second guess game is strong tonight.

[Big Klu]

The Duke is A-number-1 and ready to escape from New York with a win.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/snakeplissken/images/1/10/Duke.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120808074905

[Kc61]

Iglesias!!!!

[Playadlc]

Boom!!!!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Jose can you see...

[NC Reds]

Iggy!

[Playadlc]

What a huge HR!

[CrackerJack]

Are the Mets yelling "Batttah, Batttah...swing!" from the outfield, or something?

[Red Raindog]

That is a nice surprise


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[Ron Madden]

YES! Iglesias!!!”

[HammerTime]

Hip Hip Jose!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Iglesias!!! huge HR

[Sea Ray]

Actually the era is very different. I’ve posted the numbers. Over the past several years, relief innings have increased very significantly MLB-wide. Starting innings are well down.

And as for the Mets thanking Bell, they are scoreless through 8 innings with all the Reds’ relief usage. Not sure what they would thank the Reds for.

Not sure how Disco could have done much better and he might have done worse.

You're missing the point. It's not about this game. It's about the entire season. Pulling the pitcher an inning too early every game adds up over an entire season. It also decreases his options later in the game

[membengal]

Iglesias close to team MVP to date.

[Big Klu]

Jose Iglesias hit it straight up into the air.

[mamell]

Jose can you see? Indeed!

[adkindo]

Iglesias goes DEEP!

[JCM11]

Give Iglesias a contract extension already.

[Kc61]

Iglesias hugging Iglesias in the dugout.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Duke for the win

[malcontent]

THAT is my starting SS when Gennett returns.

[The Operator]

So who comes in for the save tonight? Garrett?

[mhs95_06]

And now with a 1-0 lead, the closer has pitched too much in the last 3 days.

[Tony Cloninger]

Dave Concepcion saves them again.

[kaldaniels]

Winker, albeit a goofball, seems to be a dugout leader.

[Kc61]

You're missing the point. It's not about this game. It's about the entire season. Pulling the pitcher an inning too early every game adds up over an entire season. It also decreases his options later in the game

It’s not pulling pitchers an inning early. It’s standard for today’s game. Average start is 5+ innings. Some managers pull guys after four innings. They aren’t trained to go 7-8 innings anymore. That’s just how it is, all the stats show it.

So good teams spend money and effort having good and deep bullpens today.

[HammerTime]

Winker, albeit a goofball, seems to be a dugout leader.

It does seem that way.

[adkindo]

Winker, albeit a goofball, seems to be a dugout leader.

my guess is he is just playing his role

[Ron Madden]

I thought they might go with Stephenson for the save

[UPRedsFan]

It’s not pulling pitchers an inning early. It’s standard for today’s game. Some managers pull guys after four innings, don’t even let them go five. They aren’t trained to go 7-8 innings anymore. That’s just how it is, all the stats show it.

So good teams spend money and effort having good and deep bullpens today.

Yes. Bell and Johnson know what they are doing.

[50YrRedsFan]

I figured it would be Lorenzen. He is the freshest reliever.

[JCM11]

Big out to start the inning.

[Kc61]

Somebody has been working with Lorenzen. Missing a few bats.

[HammerTime]

Somebody has been working with Lorenzen.

He’s looked great pretty much all year. Only one real weak spot in that bullpen.

[Big Klu]

Lorenzen looks like he may have to go the Ted Kluszewski route with his jersey sleeves before long.

[mamell]

Has it ever worked when Barnhardt stands up?

[Kc61]

Two down, bottom nine, Reds up 1, Lorenzen pitching, batter is Brandon Nimmo.

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Yay.

[membengal]

Winker is fun.

[HammerTime]

Winker. Lol. Love it.

[Ron Madden]

REDS WIN!!!!!!

[NC Reds]

Lol. Winker goading Mets fans.

[Saven]

Lmao Winker

[kaldaniels]

Jesse Winker is an American Hero.

[Reds Fanatic]

I love Winker.

[TheBigLebowski]

I have a full-on man crush on Da Wink.

[The Operator]

Holy crap they won!

[Kc61]

Fine win tonight, tight series, all one-run games, Reds in good shape for tomorrow.

[HammerTime]

Heck of a win tonight boys. Like it or not Bell pulled the right bullpen strings.

[Playadlc]

Nice win.

Good pitching is everything.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Who had Zack Duke in the win pool tonight?


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[JCM11]

Terrific pitching tonight, and we actually didn't waste this performance.