Thursday 5/9/19 Daygame! Reds @ A's 3:37 PM start

[klw]

Senzel CF,
Suárez 3B,
Dietrich DH,
Puig RF,
VanMeter LF,
Iglesias SS,
Barnhart C,
Farmer 1B,
Peraza 2B.

Tanner Roark pitching for the Reds

RHP Chris Basset for the A's
https://www.mlb.com/player/chris-bassitt-605135

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6IjuD0X4AAcEo2.jpg

[Tom Servo]

Well...the first 3 is about right. Hopefully 4-9 can do something.

[stein1214]

No Winker again? Come on!

[cumberlandreds]

Here's a purrrrty picture of the lineup. Old man Votto gets the day off.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6IrGSbV4AARE1b.jpg

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No Winker again? Come on!

VanMeter needs some AB's before he gets sent back to Louisville after this game.

[Big Klu]

No Winker again? Come on!

That does seem strange.

[stein1214]

Senzel CF,
Suárez 3B,
Dietrich DH,
Puig RF,
VanMeter LF,
Iglesias SS,
Barnhart C,
Farmer 1B,
Peraza 2B.

Tanner Roark pitching for the Reds

RHP Chris Basset for the A's
https://www.mlb.com/player/chris-bassitt-605135

Why are we forcing Farmer into the lineup at positions in the field where he's barely ever played before?

Last night we had Farmer at 2B, where before this season he played a total of 32 minor league innings in 2017. VanMeter at DH. VanMeter came up as a 2nd baseman.

Today we have Farmer at 1B, yes a much easier position than 2B, but he had a total of 35 minor league innings in 2017 and a handful of games with the Dodgers. Dietrich at DH. Dietrich has played a lot more 1B in his career, including about 30 games last year with Miami.

I just don't get it. Are we so in love with Farmer's bat that we're trying to make him into a super utility guy by playing him at positions he's barely played before?

[Wonderful Monds]

Yeah, I’ve already had it with David Bell. This is absurd.

[stein1214]

That does seem strange.

Against a right-handed pitcher. And again we're forcing Farmer and Peraza into the lineup. What does he have against Winker?

[ochoa30]

Winker has to be banged up or something

[Tom Servo]

Kind of think Winker is dealing with a (hopefully small) injury

[Rolando]

Kind of think Winker is dealing with a (hopefully small) injury
I'm thinking that's what it is too. Hopefully small is right

[Boston Red]

First time I've thought having Votto out of the lineup actually IMPROVES our chances of winning.

[RiverfrontRed]

Thankfully Votto is out of the lineup!

[Norm Chortleton]

Pretty funny to see RZ transition from Winker can't play defense, trade him/send him to AAA to Winker can't hit put him on the bench to Where is Winker? He must play every day.

[Big Klu]

Against a right-handed pitcher. And again we're forcing Farmer and Peraza into the lineup. What does he have against Winker?

I don't know. But then again, some people think I have something against Winker.

[Alabama]

Pretty funny to see RZ transition from Winker can't play defense, trade him/send him to AAA to Winker can't hit put him on the bench to Where is Winker? He must play every day.

I’ve always been on Winkers side and am even more so now. He should be playing every single day.
But to defend the others, they were saying that before Kemp, aschebler, and Puig all **** down their leg. They probably also thought we would actually contend

[Norm Chortleton]

I’ve always been on Winkers side and am even more so now. He should be playing every single day.
But to defend the others, they were saying that before Kemp, aschebler, and Puig all **** down their leg. They probably also thought we would actually contendI like Winker, too. He's a pure hitter, slow start or not. And I'd write his name on the card most days.

Just funny to see how mostly the same people reverse course quite often

[stein1214]

I’m new here. I’ve been saying that for a couple years now. I wanted Kemp released immediately after the trade.

[membengal]

Has to be a small injury or illness with Winker. No way is he sitting against a right hander otherwise.

[Kc61]

Winker was the only Reds position player who did not get into last night's extra inning game.

[adkindo]

Bell will move everyone around the lineup....but he keeps Puig and his .197 BA @ cleanup every game.

[Tony Cloninger]

David Bell you magnificent bastard! I read your damn book!

[Alabama]

If Winker isn’t sick or hurt, then Bell should be fired. Well really he should be for leaving Puig at 4 no matter what

[Tom Servo]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Jesse Winker has tightness in his left quad. Available to pinch-hit today. David Bell and Winker anticipate he’ll be starting tomorrow. #Reds

[stein1214]

Has to be a small injury or illness with Winker. No way is he sitting against a right hander otherwise.

That's pretty much the only explanation I would accept at this point. If this isn't the case then Bell is just *****.

[cumberlandreds]

That's pretty much the only explanation I would accept at this point. If this isn't the case then Bell is just a damn idiot.

Please see post above and tone down your posts.

RedsZone Management

[stein1214]

Please see post above and tone down your posts.

RedsZone Management

Sorry...my bad.

[cumberlandreds]

Sorry...my bad.

No problem. We all have our moments.

[Tony Cloninger]

Enough of this rabble rousing. Let’s play some football!

[Jomama]

David Bell's lineup moved the betting line from Oakland -160 to -180.

[JCM11]

Big game for VanMeter today. He hasn't played any OF this year so far.

[Ron Madden]

We need Tanner Roark to be pitch efficient today, it would provide a big boost following the 13 inning game last night.

[adkindo]

lets give this another try!

[adkindo]

Dietrich goes deep!

[Kc61]

DD.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Dietrich goes deep!

I start him at first when Scooter come back.


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[westofyou]

I start him at first when Scooter come back.


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What you going to do when he comes back to earth

[adkindo]

slaps it where the defenders are not

[Rolando]

What you going to do when he comes back to earth

Who says he comes back to earth?

[Big Klu]

I get a little bit of a Dave Concepcion vibe from Jose Iglesias.

[Kc61]

Big foul territory hurts Reds on pop up with man on third.

[westofyou]

Who says he comes back to earth?

The baseball gods

[Ron Madden]

Strike 3 was low for a ball damn umps

[adkindo]

Geno goes deep!

[Ron Madden]

BANG! Geno GOES Boom!!!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Dang. A Hugh crushed that ball.


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[adkindo]

you know Dietrich never likes to let Geno upstage him :laugh:

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is there a source that would list how many of our team RBI's have came off of HR's? I am thinking it is an extremely large ratio.

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Puig gets one through

[Ron Madden]

Base Hit Puig!

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has passed Chris Sabo for 26th place on the Reds all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 272
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Todd Frazier - 108
25. Dave Parker - 107
26. Eugenio Suarez - 105
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Tony Cloninger]

Some good drives going here. Nice converting in the red zone. Let’s hope the D holds.

[Ron Madden]

Great Play Geno!!!

[Ron Madden]

Reds 3
A’s 0

After 3 innings

[WVRedsFan]

Wow. Tucker gets fooled easily

[Ron Madden]

Wow. Tucker gets fooled easily

I don’t know if it’s a fact but it seems to me Tucker swings at a lot of bad pitches

[adkindo]

Tanner lives in the fire

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nice play Geno!

[Ron Madden]

Nice... A Double Play!

[Kc61]

Roark is a better pitcher than I thought when Reds acquired him. One of the few I trust to go fairly deep in games.

[Ron Madden]

Thank God for that DP Olson doubles

[klw]

Thank God for that DP Olson doubles

Aka an Olson Twin (bagger)

[mhs95_06]

Olson beat the 4.5 man outfield on a drive just short of the LF wall, and that wasn't even the biggest gap they had which was straight away CF.

[adkindo]

Roark does not even feel alive until a man gets in scoring position

[North]

Nice outing for Roark through 4...with a big assist from Suarez' arm.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How stupid can you get?


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[Boston Red]

Well, that was an exciting out.

[adkindo]

that was obstruction, right?

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oh well

[WildcatFan]

that was obstruction, right?

Total and complete exoneration.

[Kc61]

Peraza seemed almost out of the baseline going into third. He seemed to be running to the fielder, not the bag.

He might have been safe if he ran more directly to the bag.

Very odd play, should have just stuck at second.

[wvreds]

So are Day and Welsh gonna ignore the fact that if Peraza utilized the little league teaching of follow your base coach, and not keep turning around lookin at the ball, that he would’ve been safe? Guess so.

[mhs95_06]

Peraza was committed to going into the outside wide of 3B when he was still 40' out from 3B. If he correctly takes a path straight to the base, then he has the option to slide into the base from the outside or inside, depending where the throw goes. In this case the throw was way to the outside and when fielded cleanly, he was "dead meat".

[ochoa30]

Too many stupid outs on the basepaths again this year

[adkindo]

I want to score in the 5th or 6th inning.....just to know what it feels like

[BluegrassRedleg]

How ‘bout just be happy you bunted your way on base and made it to scoring position with no outs and your best hitters coming to the plate?


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[Kc61]

So are Day and Welsh gonna ignore the fact that if Peraza utilized the little league teaching of follow your base coach, and not keep turning around lookin at the ball, that he would’ve been safe? Guess so.

Safe at third or stopped at second if the coach gave the stop sign.

I admire his aggressiveness, but not his base running there.

[adkindo]

throws it away....Barnhart has to go to San Jose to retrieve the ball in foul territory

[Kc61]

Roark has a little Bronson Arroyo in him. Really bears down with men on base, gets out of jams.

Three zip Reds through five.

[mhs95_06]

Safe at third or stopped at second if the coach gave the stop sign.

I admire his aggressiveness, but not his base running there.

He wasn't going full speed all the way either, especially as he was nearing 2B like he was planning to stop there, then something changed his mind.

[Boston Red]

Reds got a chance to redo last night's disaster grounder between first and second. Passed the test this time!

[Ron Madden]

Roark at 81 pitches through 5 innings.

Reds 3
A’s 0

[mhs95_06]

throws it away....Barnhart has to go to San Jose to retrieve the ball in foul territory

How far was that from where Piscotty went to throw out Peraza?

[adkindo]

Van Meter looks very small

[mhs95_06]

Reds got a chance to redo last night's disaster grounder between first and second. Passed the test this time!

Due to a first baseman who made a quick good decision and proceeded aggressively and proficiently. Years of experience aren't that valuable when aptitude is poor.

[adkindo]

feel bad for the dude

[adkindo]

who is that dude setting up there?

[mhs95_06]

Roark gets the 1st out of the 6th due to the foul acreage in Oakland.

[Ron Madden]

Double Play to get out of the 6th. That’ll be all for Tanner today.

Reds 3
A’s 0

[mhs95_06]

And then a nice 6-4-3 DP to get out of the 6th with 94 pitches! Maybe take the mound to start the 7th?

[Rolando]

Double Play to get out of the 6th. That’ll be all for Tanner today.

Reds 3
A’s 0

Nice start tanner!

[Spanky]

who is that dude setting up there?

don't know because we don't have the sound on here at work. but clearly the fans did't get the memo that he wanted to be left alone. how much further away could you sit?

[Ron Madden]

who is that dude setting up there?

Dallas Braden he once pitched a perfect game for the A’s

[adkindo]

don't know because we don't have the sound on here at work. but clearly the fans did't get the memo that he wanted to be left alone. how much further away could you sit?

it is Dallas Braden....he looks a lot different than when he pitched

[mhs95_06]

Marty says he doesn't want to hear another peep out of Bell's mouth about needing the starters to go more innings if he doesn't let Roark go out for the 7th.

[adkindo]

Dallas Braden he once pitched a perfect game for the A’s

think that was against a very good Joe Maddon Tampa Bay Rays team

[Spanky]

Marty says he doesn't want to hear another peep out of Bell's mouth about needing the starters to go more innings if he doesn't let Roark go out for the 7th.

well guess who's not out there

[Rolando]

Marty says he doesn't want to hear another peep out of Bell's mouth about needing the starters to go more innings if he doesn't let Roark go out for the 7th.

I dare Marty to go up to bell and say during the pre game show tomorrow.

[adkindo]

nice catch Puig

[Ron Madden]

Marty says he doesn't want to hear another peep out of Bell's mouth about needing the starters to go more innings if he doesn't let Roark go out for the 7th.

I’ll be glad when Marty retires.

Tanner had over 90 pitches for 6 innings and didn’t have good control

[Rolando]

nice catch Puig

Yes it was a great effort

[westofyou]

Marty says he doesn't want to hear another peep out of Bell's mouth about needing the starters to go more innings if he doesn't let Roark go out for the 7th.

Marty says a lot of stuff, sometimes when he's chewing a sandwich too.

I tend to ignore most of it

[mhs95_06]

I dare Marty to go up to bell and say during the pre game show tomorrow.

I don't think he does the radio pre-game managers interview much anymore.

[Spanky]

nice catch Puig

his defense has been better than I expected this year, unfortunately his offense has been the opposite of what i expected

[mhs95_06]

Bell has succeeded in making Garrett a short stint lefty reliever who is now incapable of getting more than a few outs in one game.

[wvreds]

Hernandez has been nails thus far.

[Ron Madden]

Reds 3
A’s 0

After 7 innings

[mhs95_06]

Took VanMeter a while to get to that inning ending can of corn. Also, didn't get much of a jump on that Olson drive that went in the gap between him and the LCF.

[Boston Red]

Suarez murdered that one!

[Ron Madden]

Geno double down the RF line.
Geno with 2 doubles and a HR today

[mhs95_06]

Bassitt gets two more outs than Roark on one less pitch, but gives up 3 more runs.

[Boston Red]

Why?

[Red Raindog]

We need to find the person handing out the stupid pills


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[wvreds]

Oh. My. Gosh. Why, just why? Bell should start fining players for this garbage

[Spanky]

I can't recall if I've ever seen an above average base-running Reds team. (I'm only 21)

[mhs95_06]

These Reds baserunners somehow seem to feel a need to get to 3B with 2 outs. Is it because they don't think they have enough speed to score on a two out single, or they have lower confidence in their teammates getting a 2 out hit to the OF than they have of stealing a base and the throw going wild?

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Oh. My. Gosh. Why, just why? Bell should start fining players for this garbage

Maybe he is the instigator, the un-indicted co-conspirator!

[NatiRedGals]

I would have sent Raisel out there in the 8th for ****s n giggles

[Ron Madden]

And In the midst of the complaining

Reds 3
A’s 0

After 8 innings

[Red Raindog]

Is VanMeter slow?


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[mhs95_06]

Is Senzel or Lorenzen going to play center in the 9th?

[Boston Red]

LOL, if Lorenzen had tried to go to third and gotten hosed...

[Tony Cloninger]

And In the midst of the complaining

Reds 3
A’s 0

After 8 innings


I just got back from lunch because I work for a living. And until you posted this I thought the Reds were losing.

[mhs95_06]

LOL, if Lorenzen had tried to go to third and gotten hosed...

Were there grounds for obstruction if he tried and got tagged?

[Ron Madden]

Iglesias coming in for the save

[wvreds]

Well I am certainly glad Raisel gets to pitch in the 9th. This should please him

[Boston Red]

Were there grounds for obstruction if he tried and got tagged?

Not sure, but apparently obstruction isn't a point of emphasis for this crew anyway. Barnhart clearly should have just tackled Piscotty instead of trying to tag him Tuesday night.

[Ron Madden]

There’s a K

[Ron Madden]

There’s a BB

[gagliano]

David Bell you magnificent bastard! I read your damn book!

wall street?

[Ron Madden]

There’s a fly out to CF 2 outs

[BluegrassRedleg]

Marty and Cowboy’s discussion of how the seagulls know it’s the 9th inning has been a classic.


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[Ron Madden]

There’s a gap shot double runners at 2nd and 3rd 2 outs

[JCM11]

He missed the catcher's glove by two feet on that double.

[JFLegal]

welsh has no idea it's the 9th inning apparantly.

"reds caught a break that the runner from third didn't score."

ummmm.

[Mutaman]

Not a good inning

[Boston Red]

So does Laureano homer to tie, or does he walk to set up a walk-off grand slam?

Woo hoo, neither!

[Ron Madden]

There’s a pop up Reds Win!!!

[JFLegal]

"farmer backing and calling, and the final game of the 2019 series against the oakland a's belongs to the reds!"

[Mutaman]

great inning

[Tom Servo]

We’re good again :beerme:

[Rolando]

We’re good again :beerme:

Good win now let's start building some momentum

[westofyou]

Marty and Cowboy’s discussion of how the seagulls know it’s the 9th inning has been a classic.


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Beach Rats

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-athletics/2019/05/09/566104#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=566104

[Ironman92]

Wasn’t the most exciting but I enjoy a solid win

[Umkubas]

Winner Winner chicken dinner

[Roy Tucker]

wall street?

George C Scott as George Patton talking about Erwin Rommel.

[cumberlandreds]

Not much wrong with the Reds pitching so far this season. You have to happy with that.

Base running is just awful. That has a lot to do with the poor record too. You can't keep running yourself into outs and expect to win close games. Reds were lucky in this one to get away with a number of base running blunders.

I would have left Roark in to at least start the 7th. But they got away with it, so I won't complain. The bullpen was great today.

Win two of three across the bay and this 29 game stretch of mostly road games will turn out about as well as you could hope.