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WrongVerb
06-09-2019, 10:01 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8n36oVW4AEsKbC.jpg:small

HammerTime
06-09-2019, 11:18 AM
I go out of town for a few days and all hell breaks loose. Let’s hope they can get back on track today.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 11:47 AM
Interesting that it's Peraza and not Winker in CF, and that we're facing a righty and Casali is starting.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 12:14 PM
Me thinks itís stupid to give a player a day off after he had half the teamís total bases the day before.

mth123
06-09-2019, 12:26 PM
Me thinks it’s stupid to give a player a day off after he had half the team’s total bases the day before.

The Reds have lost three in a row and have days off on Monday and Thursday. Tuesday and Wednesday they can take advantage of the DH spot to get guys some rest. Today they should be playing the best they have to try to get a win. Plenty of time for Rest this week.

klw
06-09-2019, 12:33 PM
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2019/06/08/cincinnati-reds-notes-jose-peraza-playing-time-alex-wood-jose-siri-david-bell-mlb/1394329001/



Rookie center fielder Nick Senzel will likely receive a day off Sunday.

Josť Peraza started at shortstop in place of Iglesias on Saturday and Josh VanMeter received a start in left field. Puig has a career-low .211 batting average and .256 on-base percentage, but Bell said Saturdayís lineup had more to do with bench players than Puigís performance.

ďWe feel like we have to keep Peraza (sharp), he hasnít played short hardly at all,Ē Bell said. ďWe canít forget about him. He has to stay sharp at that position. VanMeter hasnít had many opportunities to start. Itís more about getting those two guys an opportunity.Ē

Peraza played shortstop in the eighth inning Friday and made a throwing error while trying to complete a potential double play. It was only the second time he played shortstop in a game since May 4.

ďComing off the bench is not an easy role,Ē Bell said of Peraza. ďItís something that he hasnít done in his career. Itís my job as the manager to make sure those guys stay ready and they get enough playing time to where they are able to come into a day and start a game or come into the middle of a game.

ďItís their responsibility to be ready too, but itís also my responsibility to make sure they are getting enough playing time to keep them effective.Ē

Entering Saturday, Senzel had played every inning since his Major League debut on May 3.

ďWe do have the off days, but sometimes itís just good to sit and watch a game too,Ē Bell said. ďAs tough as it is to take him out of the lineup, itís important for him to have a day like that.Ē

mth123
06-09-2019, 12:38 PM
Secondary priorities are always good when the season is circling the drain.

Ohiohaybaler
06-09-2019, 12:40 PM
Nola has a BABIP of .343 against him. If the Reds donít try to swing for the fences every at bat, they will break out of their slump.
Also, the first and sixth innings are bugaboos for Nola.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 12:40 PM
good thread title

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:11 PM
Winker in the leadoff spot?
Interesting.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 01:11 PM
Winker puts another one on the ground, would have been a hit but robbed by Hernandez.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:13 PM
Interesting that in "last season, Votto's worst in the big leagues", he still led the NL in OBP.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:14 PM
Interesting that it's Peraza and not Winker in CF, and that we're facing a righty and Casali is starting.
Would much prefer Peraza in CF since he has some speed. Winker is slow motion.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:14 PM
Winker in the leadoff spot?
Interesting.

It's sort of by default. When Senzel is not in the lineup, they don't really have another traditional leadoff type.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:17 PM
Would much prefer Peraza in CF since he has some speed. Winker is slow motion.

I tend to agree with you, but in Winker's defense (no pun intended) he played better defense in CF earlier in the year than he has at either corner OF spot.

(*Brought to you by somebody who supposedly has an axe to grind against Winker :D)

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:18 PM
Surprises in the top of the first.
Winker hits a ground ball to the right side.
Votto an emergency hack back to the pitcher.
Suarez easy fly ball out.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 01:22 PM
Castro in the above post means Suarez. His struggles this series have really hurt.

Sonny gets out of first easily and Peraza tracker down the last out but not without some adjustments.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:28 PM
Castro in the above post means Suarez. His struggles this series have really hurt.

Sonny gets out of first easily and Peraza tracker down the last out but not without some adjustments.

Yep. Castro/Suarez? How could I get them names mixed up. Well at least I've got Mo Willy Pena out of my memory bank.

Red Raindog
06-09-2019, 01:29 PM
Puig continues to Puig


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TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 01:29 PM
Puig is awful

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 01:29 PM
Puig continues to Puig


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Puig missed that pitch by a foot

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 01:30 PM
Votto 0-11 off the starting pitcher
Suarez has greatly struggled
Puig about as lost as he can be
Dietrich 3 straight hitless starts

Senzel sits. Canít make me like it

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:31 PM
Who is Kevin Barnes? I've never heard of him. (Evidently he's a "great baseball mind" from Atlanta?)

texasdave
06-09-2019, 01:31 PM
Let the record show that the 3,000th major league plate appearance for Yasiel Puig ended in a strikeout.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 01:31 PM
I'm convinced that Puig and Turner Ward are a sort of Trojan horse sent by the Dodgers to sabotage. Cant see any other way to explain how bad he has been.

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 01:32 PM
Hope you Nola owners got him in your lineups today

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 01:33 PM
Runner in motion with a great contact hitter

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:33 PM
Bloop!!!
Can we come out of this scoreless?

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 01:34 PM
That’s why contact matters

mth123
06-09-2019, 01:35 PM
OK. A run.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:36 PM
And the reds lead !!!

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:36 PM
OK. A run.

#perazaclutchrbi

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 01:37 PM
Thom definitely knows way more than baseball operations people.

By the way, some of the guys who struck out 150+ times last year who apparently would have no spot on Team Thom: Giancarlo Stanton, Joey Gallo, Justin Upton, Khris Davis, Paul Goldschmidt, Bryce Harper, Trevor Story, Javier Baez, Matt Carpenter, Rhys Hoskins, Cody Bellinger, Aaron Judge.

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 01:46 PM
Gray looks sharp

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:47 PM
Thom definitely knows way more than baseball operations people.

By the way, some of the guys who struck out 150+ times last year who apparently would have no spot on Team Thom: Giancarlo Stanton, Joey Gallo, Justin Upton, Khris Davis, Paul Goldschmidt, Bryce Harper, Trevor Story, Javier Baez, Matt Carpenter, Rhys Hoskins, Cody Bellinger, Aaron Judge.

A bunch of stiffs.

HammerTime
06-09-2019, 01:49 PM
Swing the bat for heavens sake.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 01:51 PM
Swing the bat for heavens sake.

Yasiel hears you

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 01:52 PM
Why does the inept Puig continue to bat so high in the lineup?

It's asinine and moronic. Flip him with Casali (the true answer is to release him).

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 01:53 PM
Votto manages a lowly walk, but no RBI.

He's no Peraza.

#notelite

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 01:55 PM
Votto manages a lowly walk, but no RBI.

He's no Peraza.

#notelite

The Votto problem is fixed. Now release Puig and fix that problem and the Offense will be good.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 01:55 PM
Anyone by chance know if Thom likes or dislikes things in baseball that take extra moments?

WrongVerb
06-09-2019, 01:55 PM
Thom definitely knows way more than baseball operations people.

By the way, some of the guys who struck out 150+ times last year who apparently would have no spot on Team Thom: Giancarlo Stanton, Joey Gallo, Justin Upton, Khris Davis, Paul Goldschmidt, Bryce Harper, Trevor Story, Javier Baez, Matt Carpenter, Rhys Hoskins, Cody Bellinger, Aaron Judge.

The Philadelphia announcers are so much more sane.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 01:56 PM
That didn't look like a strike

The Operator
06-09-2019, 01:56 PM
Strike 3 to Geno absolutely a ball. 100%

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 01:56 PM
Dietrich is due for a long ball..

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 01:58 PM
well at least Nola's throwing a number of pitches, over 50 in 3 innings

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 01:59 PM
Dietrich has really been scuffling recently.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:01 PM
Dietrich has really been scuffling recently.

Yeah, looks to me as if hes seeing 90% breaking balls and hes chasing hard. That's what happens when you hit 17 homeruns in just over 100 AB's I guess.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:02 PM
I will also never understand pitching to outside corner when your defense is heavily shifted for the pull

The Operator
06-09-2019, 02:05 PM
That would have been a strike for Nola

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:06 PM
Jeeeez.. Terrible call

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:06 PM
That's straight BS tbh. Better pitch then the strike on Suarez.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 02:07 PM
Important too because it brings up Harper with 2 on.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:09 PM
Another thing is the pitch by Gray is coming towards the plate and the Nola pitch was breaking away. Just super annoying to have to deal with human error in this day and age.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 02:15 PM
so uh, we gonna talk about that play

HammerTime
06-09-2019, 02:15 PM
That really sums up the season. How is that not ruled an error.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:15 PM
Lol, well this is fun huh?

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 02:16 PM
Reds baseball 2019 edition

Saven
06-09-2019, 02:16 PM
so uh, we gonna talk about that play

I'd rather not. That was horrendous....

Seriously, wth was that!?

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 02:16 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2019 Cincinnati Reds!

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 02:16 PM
poor Sonny

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:16 PM
Great defense there..Lost in the sun and the wind blowing it around.. 2 run infield single.. Jeeez

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
Well played.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
Not wearing sunglasses is inexcusable.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
poor Sonny

Too sunny

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
poor Sonny

Probably regretting the extension every single game he has to pitch for this joke of an org

BluegrassRedleg
06-09-2019, 02:17 PM
[emoji52]


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Big Klu
06-09-2019, 02:18 PM
That really sums up the season. How is that not ruled an error.

As per the rule book, a ball lost in the sun, wind, or lights cannot be ruled an error.

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 02:18 PM
Embarrassing

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:20 PM
Also, why cant our catchers get there glove down? Do they think the guy is gonna slide in waist high?

Coopdaddy67
06-09-2019, 02:20 PM
poor Sonny

Feels like bad defense or freak plays have cost him several times this year.

Alabama
06-09-2019, 02:20 PM
Laugh out loud. This team has a better chance of being worst in the NL than making the playoffs.

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:21 PM
Just a tad fair and Jay might have had problems chasing it down..

The Operator
06-09-2019, 02:21 PM
Watched the drop happen while my family was singing Happy Birthday to me. It's not often that you hear people scream out "You've got to be kidding me!" During such a moment.

Oh, and I found out five minutes beforehand that I'd picked up a nail in my rear passenger tire of my car.


Everything's coming up Operator today

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:22 PM
There are 30 flags and sunglasses


No excuses

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 02:22 PM
Peraza has more rbi's than Votto.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 02:23 PM
well better be extra perfect Sonny and leave nothing to chance, doesn't look like you're getting anymore help

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:23 PM
good thread title

I disagree

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 02:24 PM
I disagree
It's still good.

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:24 PM
Two hard hit foul balls..and....a strike out.. Go figure.. I think that play last inning took all the wind out of their sails..

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:24 PM
well better be extra perfect Sonny and leave nothing to chance, doesn't look like you're getting anymore help

I think it's too late for that, lol. He dared to allow a weak pop up to first base so now hes got an L heading his way most likely.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:25 PM
Peraza has more rbi's than Votto.

Well Peraza is a beast...so thereís that

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 02:25 PM
Two hard hit foul balls..and....a strike out.. Go figure.. I think that play last inning took all the wind out of their sails..

This team was a dinghy on a calm pond before that travesty

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:25 PM
It's still good.

Hurts my eyes

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:25 PM
Watched the drop happen while my family was singing Happy Birthday to me. It's not often that you hear people scream out "You've got to be kidding me!" During such a moment.

Oh, and I found out five minutes beforehand that I'd picked up a nail in my rear passenger tire of my car.


Everything's coming up Operator today

Happy You gotta be kidding me day.. Best to check for water in your gas tank while you're at it..

Rolando
06-09-2019, 02:32 PM
This team just looks unprepared to play every day which is crazy when have 10 assistant coaches.

BCubb2003
06-09-2019, 02:33 PM
Peraza has more rbi's than Votto.

Thatís because Votto bats in front of Peraza.

Ironman92
06-09-2019, 02:40 PM
Thatís because Votto bats in front of Peraza.

Peraza has knocked in Votto 0 times this year. Peraza has had 24 fewer runners on base this season.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 02:40 PM
The Reds defense has went to the gutter this year.

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:41 PM
Gotta swing that bat to hit the ball..

adkindo
06-09-2019, 02:42 PM
it is crazy that it feels like 2 runs will actually be enough to win this one

TheBigLebowski
06-09-2019, 02:42 PM
Good eye Joe

BCubb2003
06-09-2019, 02:42 PM
Peraza has knocked in Votto 0 times this year. Peraza has had 24 fewer runners on base this season.

He is indeed a beast.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:42 PM
it is crazy that it feels like 2 runs will actually be enough to win this one

Have you seen the scores the last 3 games?

Rolando
06-09-2019, 02:45 PM
This team looks like they have quit on David Bell

Rantly
06-09-2019, 02:48 PM
Peraza has knocked in Votto 0 times this year. Peraza has had 24 fewer runners on base this season.

Wow, great comeback reply!

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 02:49 PM
What about Reeds status?

Wonderful Monds
06-09-2019, 02:50 PM
Kinda sucks that it feels like the wheels came off the season so quickly in the last week. I don’t even particularly care to watch anymore at the moment.

North
06-09-2019, 02:51 PM
Sports are supposed to be entertaining.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 02:52 PM
Puig what the hell

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:52 PM
Gray has gotten screwed in just about every way a pitcher can today. Gotta feel for the guy.

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 02:54 PM
Puig what the hell

Puig..always the hot dog.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:56 PM
Was that not strike 3 anyways?

The Operator
06-09-2019, 02:56 PM
lol I figured for sure they'd review that and the run would score

OC_Red
06-09-2019, 02:56 PM
Robot umpires now please... Harper struck out looking before that single.


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757690
06-09-2019, 02:57 PM
Reds lucky the Phillies aren’t reviewing that play. It looks like a second tag that Casali missed today.

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:57 PM
huh...tried to steal home and almost got it.. pretty gutsy.. I'da wanted it reviewed too..

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 02:57 PM
This ump is very inconsistent

BluegrassRedleg
06-09-2019, 02:58 PM
Puig..always the hot dog.

In fairness, I donít think thatís the right term. Creeper said it best. Everyone thought that runner was going home (and probably should have) and Puig was going to make the ďhero play.Ē Thatís part of his game that I donít think will ever change.


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ochoa30
06-09-2019, 02:58 PM
This ump is very inconsistent

Sonny would have a shut out if he had done his job properly

- - - Updated - - -

Why has no one pointed out that that pitch was clearly a strike? How does that not get called. Worst ump I've seen this year, just insane how bad he has been

mamell
06-09-2019, 02:59 PM
Ahh..he was definitely out..

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:01 PM
Puig needs released. That might be a wake up call to these other guys. Hes worthless.

dsterry
06-09-2019, 03:02 PM
Hopefully the Reds let Puig walk after the season.

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:02 PM
Maybe the Reds will decide to play some exciting baseball again someday, but right now the only people excited watching them are fans of other teams.
That said..Peaches are on sale today and it's peach season here in SC.. That's more exciting than Reds baseball right now..

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:03 PM
6 pitches = 3 outs for Puig without even adancing any runners. They were completely ineffective outs, other than getting the game over more quickly and making things as easy as possible on the opposing team and pitcher.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:04 PM
Puig needs released. That might be a wake up call to these other guys. Hes worthless.
Wasn't that what people said about releasing Kemp? Maybe "wake up calls" aren't real.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:04 PM
Ahh..he was definitely out..

Definitely??
It looks like the tag is on the knee.
Thank you Philly for not reviewing.

stein1214
06-09-2019, 03:04 PM
Making Nola work through the first 4 and then let him breeze through 5 and 6 on about 15 pitches combined.

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:05 PM
Hopefully the Reds let Puig walk after the season.

If they made the move for the fans to bring him here, they got to be consistent and make the move to release him as soon as possible. Same old crap as with Bailey...trying to salvage sunken costs.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:05 PM
Wasn't that what people said about releasing Kemp? Maybe "wake up calls" aren't real.

I couldn't care less if they are or not. He sucks and should be gone. Let Ervin start the rest of the season out there. He cant possibly be any worse. Gives a way better AB from what I've seen too.

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 03:05 PM
The Reds are #28 out of 30 in numbers of pitches seen. Way too many early in the count outs and first pitch swinging.

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:06 PM
Great play by Sonny.. To bad the rest of the infield doesn't seem to want to emulate him..

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:06 PM
Puig needs released. That might be a wake up call to these other guys. Hes worthless.

That needs to be shouted from the rooftops by the fans. Hold this franchise accountable. Don't let them continue to cash everyone's checks and think that's OK.

dsterry
06-09-2019, 03:07 PM
Good job by Sonny Gray today. He deserved a better fate.

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:08 PM
The Reds are #28 out of 30 in numbers of pitches seen. Way to many early in the count outs and first pitch swinging.

That's 100% Coaching.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:08 PM
That needs to be shouted from the rooftops by the fans. Hold this franchise accountable. Don't let them continue to cash everyone's checks and think that's OK.

I dont think enough people care tbh. The 10 or so of us that do aren't gonna be able to move the needle. The franchise is in dangerous territory of losing whatever fanbase they have left IMO.

Crumbley
06-09-2019, 03:08 PM
Have seen enough Puig, itís not going to work here

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:09 PM
I dont think enough people care tbh. The 10 or so of us that do aren't gonna be able to move the needle. The franchise is in dangerous territory of losing whatever fanbase they have left IMO.
This Redszone theory where our posts have some effect on the machinations of the team is really something.

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:09 PM
The Reds are #28 out of 30 in numbers of pitches seen. Way to many early in the count outs and first pitch swinging.

No excuses for that other than pure laziness and a lack if accountability by Management and poor Coaching. If you can't instill plate discipline in your players you need to be gone.

Rolando
06-09-2019, 03:10 PM
I couldn't care less if they are or not. He sucks and should be gone. Let Ervin start the rest of the season out there. He cant possibly be any worse. Gives a way better AB from what I've seen too.

I would be okay with releasing Puig but let's move past guys like Ervin too he does bring anything special either.

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:11 PM
This Redszone theory where our posts have some effect on the machinations of the team is really something.

They actually do. It's why Kemp, Wood and Puig became REDS in the first place.

If you don't hold Ownership and Management accountable, they'll just keep cashing your checks. It's a business and we are the Consumers. Consumers have to have a collective voice or they will be taken advantage of every single time. No exceptions.

NC Reds
06-09-2019, 03:12 PM
Turner Ward has been a poor fit. Hopefully that is addressed in the off-season (won’t happen sooner).

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:12 PM
I would be okay with releasing Puig but let's move past guys like Ervin too he does bring anything special either.

I dont think he will be an all star but he has been pretty solid offensively and will fill in OK for now. Aquino, Longhi, O' Grady could be worth a look as well.

Rolando
06-09-2019, 03:14 PM
They actually do. It's why Kemp, Wood and Puig became REDS in the first place.

If you don't hold Ownership and Management accountable, they'll just keep cashing your checks. It's a business and we are the Consumers. Consumers have to have a collective voice or they will be taken advantage of every single time. No exceptions.

honest question as fans what are we supposed to do? I'm in 5 minutes from the stadium and I haven't been to a game in two years. So other then not going to games I'm not sure what else fans can do?

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 03:15 PM
I'd be okay with giving an error on ball lost in Sun if fielder decides not to use sunglasses.

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:16 PM
I dont think he will be an all star but he has been pretty solid offensively and will fill in OK for now. Aquino, Longhi, O' Grady could be worth a look as well.

It would certainly be watchable for the rest of the season. Spots need to open up in AAA for Friedl, and evetually Trammell, anyway. Need to to see what these guys have at this peak point in their careers. The spikes are usually pretty good and unpredictable for a player's peak years.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:16 PM
They actually do. It's why Kemp, Wood and Puig became REDS in the first place.

If you don't hold Ownership and Management accountable, they'll just keep cashing your checks. It's a business and we are the Consumers. Consumers have to have a collective voice or they will be taken advantage of every single time. No exceptions.
We're like a hundred or so Reds fans using a forum system that has been largely irrelevant for a decade now, nobody is listening to us. Twitter maybe, us no.

I'm very disappointed with Puig and don't think there's any reason why he should be a Red beyond this year but man, this place just wants blood. Again, remember Matt Kemp? Remember when releasing him was this great win for accountability and how everything was going to be good now?

People didn't want to deal with a revolving door of AAA jabronis and wanted major league talent. And the minute the major league talent slumps (which sucks, but **** happens) they start calling for the jabronis again. Can't we at least aim higher?

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:18 PM
Have seen enough Puig, it’s not going to work here
Release him. He's a cancer.
Puig Casino night? Are you kidding me?
Who would give any kind of $$$ for him.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:18 PM
honest question as fans what are we supposed to do? I'm in 5 minutes from the stadium and I haven't been to a game in two years. So other then not going to games I'm not sure what else fans can do?

This is what fans can do. I haven't given a penny to this org in over 3 maybe 4 years. Not going to buy merch, not going to see them in person, no MLB. TV, nothing. This seems to have spurned some moves this offseason so hopefully they will do even more this coming Trade deadline and offseason but time is running out. The city doesnt seem to care at all from what I've seen.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:19 PM
Wow that has to be painful for Realmuto

Bad crossup

North
06-09-2019, 03:19 PM
This team looks like they have quit on David Bell

I couldn't imagine what it would be like working for that cold fish.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:20 PM
Release him. He's a cancer.
Puig Casino night? Are you kidding me?
Who would give any kind of $$$ for him.
Pretty sure it's for charity

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:20 PM
honest question as fans what are we supposed to do? I'm in 5 minutes from the stadium and I haven't been to a game in two years. So other then not going to games I'm not sure what else fans can do?

Individually, only what you do. Collectively, it works. I've seen it time and time again. It doesn't work too well in Cincinnati and I believe that's because the media and City Council enjoy schmoozing too much with the Sports' Owners and their influence.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:21 PM
We're like a hundred or so Reds fans using a forum system that has been largely irrelevant for a decade now, nobody is listening to us. Twitter maybe, us no.

I'm very disappointed with Puig and don't think there's any reason why he should be a Red beyond this year but man, this place just wants blood. Again, remember Matt Kemp? Remember when releasing him was this great win for accountability and how everything was going to be good now?

People didn't want to deal with a revolving door of AAA jabronis and wanted major league talent. And the minute the major league talent slumps (which sucks, but **** happens) they start calling for the jabronis again. Can't we at least aim higher?

If Puig and Kemp aren't Jabronis then I've been dreaming since late March. Actually its seems more like a nightmare.

adkindo
06-09-2019, 03:21 PM
Pretty sure it's for charity

so far, most of his paycheck should be considered charity

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:22 PM
We're like a hundred or so Reds fans using a forum system that has been largely irrelevant for a decade now, nobody is listening to us. Twitter maybe, us no.

I'm very disappointed with Puig and don't think there's any reason why he should be a Red beyond this year but man, this place just wants blood. Again, remember Matt Kemp? Remember when releasing him was this great win for accountability and how everything was going to be good now?

People didn't want to deal with a revolving door of AAA jabronis and wanted major league talent. And the minute the major league talent slumps (which sucks, but **** happens) they start calling for the jabronis again. Can't we at least aim higher?

100 people read it for every one that posts. These 100, plus us, speak to others away from here. The people they speak to speak to 10,000 more. Everything has an effect.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Nice at bat by can meter. No way would I let winker hit.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 03:24 PM
I'd be okay with giving an error on ball lost in Sun if fielder decides not to use sunglasses.

Do we know it was the sun, or did the wind have something to do with it?

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Armed guard for the pitcher to leave the mound.. AS IF some crazy fan is gonna need shot for asking for an autograph or something.. ..I know..they've been around a long time, but still seems a bit silly..

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Ha. Thom brags on the performance by the Phillies pitchers over the past 3 days.
Welsh comes right in and notes it's against a very cold hitting team.
Tell it like it is Chris!!

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Thank you Chris Welsh. This team cant hit at all right now so I'm sorry but I'm not giving the Phillies pitchers too much credit. Good job not throwing meatballs every single pitch I guess.

stein1214
06-09-2019, 03:25 PM
...at some point you have to stop pinch hitting for Winker every time they bring in a lefty.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:26 PM
Infield hit for Senzel


Bases loaded for Votto

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:26 PM
People didn't want to deal with a revolving door of AAA jabronis and wanted major league talent. And the minute the major league talent slumps (which sucks, but **** happens) they start calling for the jabronis again. Can't we at least aim higher?


The topic is only about this season.

So, it's OK to give up on this season and continue to give Puig a roster spot, and Kemp before him when there are players in the organization who could only do better wasting away their peak seasons at Louisville?

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 03:26 PM
Thom praising the Phillies pitchers in this series, then Welsh comes in stating how cold the Reds offense has been. I love it.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:26 PM
Votto.
Please just take some good cuts at the ball !!

The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:27 PM
Joey!!!!!!!

Tie ball game!!!!

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 03:27 PM
Tie Ballgame!!!

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:27 PM
If Puig and Kemp aren't Jabronis then I've been dreaming since late March. Actually its seems more like a nightmare.
Yeah, it sucks. The Reds could trade for an All-Star tomorrow and that could turn around and play horrid. It still wouldn't make the AAA guys any better bets moving forward.


100 people read it for every one that posts. These 100, plus us, speak to others away from here. The people they speak to speak to 10,000 more. Everything has an effect.
lol

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:27 PM
Wha..??? We're tied up? Glad I didn't go buy peaches after all..

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 03:27 PM
Votto manages only 2 RBI's.

#notelite

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:28 PM
Votto 2 RBIs !!!
I'm having heart palpatations!!

UKWhoDey
06-09-2019, 03:28 PM
Imagine that. Joey doesn't choke up and swings all the way through.....RBIs.

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 03:28 PM
Joey!!!!!!!

Tie ball game!!!!

Miracles still happen.

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:29 PM
Thom praising the Phillies pitchers in this series, then Welsh comes in stating how cold the Reds offense has been. I love it.

They haven't exactly lied about anything. Reds bats have been terrible and Phillies pitching very good.. Would you rather hear blind homerism telling us what a great lineup we've had all week? "We so awesomely lost 3 in a row!"???

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 03:30 PM
...at some point you have to stop pinch hitting for Winker every time they bring in a lefty.

Why? He has been next to helpless vs. LHP, and the right-handed Senzel is on the bench to replace him offensively and defensively.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:31 PM
Yeah, it sucks. The Reds could trade for an All-Star tomorrow and that could turn around and play horrid. It still wouldn't make the AAA guys any better bets moving forward.


lol

It is crazy to me how unlucky this team seems to be. Kemp was trash, Puig hasn't been much better, and Wood hurt all year. That trade could not have worked out much worse. I'm looking forward to the Hall of Fame enshrinements for Downs and Gray in 20 years or so as well, lol.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 03:32 PM
Geno! Reds lead 4-3

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:32 PM
Geno delivers!!

adkindo
06-09-2019, 03:32 PM
how is Votto not on 3rd?

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:33 PM
Suarez chewing of Votto for not going to third on the bad throw..

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:33 PM
how is Votto not on 3rd?

He's Joey Votto?

Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd?

He wants to be standing on 3rd when Puig Strikes out on 3 pitches or Pops Out?

BluegrassRedleg
06-09-2019, 03:33 PM
Who are these guys, and what did they do with the sad sack Reds?


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bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:34 PM
Baserunning is not in Votto's skills list.

BluegrassRedleg
06-09-2019, 03:34 PM
He's Joey Votto?

Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd.

Never make any out at third.


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mamell
06-09-2019, 03:34 PM
Let's see if they can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory..

adkindo
06-09-2019, 03:35 PM
He's Joey Votto?

Never make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd?

He wants to be standing on 3rd when Puig Strikes out on 3 pitches or Pops Out?

seemed like he could have walked there

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 03:35 PM
I hope Van Meter and Senzel stay in game

North
06-09-2019, 03:36 PM
Individually, only what you do. Collectively, it works. I've seen it time and time again. It doesn't work too well in Cincinnati and I believe that's because the media and City Council enjoy schmoozing too much with the Sports' Owners and their influence.

That is so. And the sports press here is very timid. And I think those that aren't are eventually denied access.

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:36 PM
It is crazy to me how unlucky this team seems to be. Kemp was trash, Puig hasn't been much better, and Wood hurt all year. That trade could not have worked out much worse. I'm looking forward to the Hall of Fame enshrinements for Downs and Gray in 20 years or so as well, lol.

Better yet Homer....well...you know..

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:36 PM
seemed like he could have walked there

The post was made to be a joke. Seems Votto gives up too easily on the basepaths giving in to his inability to run well.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 03:37 PM
...at some point you have to stop pinch hitting for Winker every time they bring in a lefty.
IMO, Winker shouldn't be in the starting lineup, whoever is pitching.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:37 PM
oh no, Lorenzen

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 03:37 PM
That is so. And the sports press here is very timid. And I think those that aren't are eventually denied access.

That does seem to be the way it's always been there.

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I hope Van Meter and Senzel stay in game

Hope they pinch-hit for Puig.

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:38 PM
I don't feel good about Lorensen right now.. He's given up a few leads lately..

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:39 PM
I hope Bell doesn't hesitate to go to Garrett or Iglesias if Lorenzen struggles here.

stein1214
06-09-2019, 03:39 PM
Why? He has been next to helpless vs. LHP, and the right-handed Senzel is on the bench to replace him offensively and defensively.

Why do you think he's next to helpless against LHP? Don't keep telling us you wanna get him 500 at bats this year and he's one of the players you're building the team around if all he is is a platoon player. At some point you have to expose him to lefties if he's going to be an every day player.

50YrRedsFan
06-09-2019, 03:40 PM
Oh boy, Lorenzen. I am not confident in him in these close games. Fastball is straight with little movement. And this park is home run friendly.

Rolando
06-09-2019, 03:40 PM
This team looks like they have quit on David Bell

Hopefully I spoke too soon

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 03:41 PM
I hope Van Meter and Senzel stay in game

They do.

Senzel remains in the game in CF.
VanMeter remains in the game in LF.
Peraza moves from CF to 2B.
Dietrich out of the game.
Lorenzen now pitching, batting 4th.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 03:43 PM
I'd have left Lorenzen in.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:45 PM
I'd have left Lorenzen in.
I was confused until I saw Williams is left handed, for some reason I thought he was a righty hitter.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 03:45 PM
Why do you think he's next to helpless against LHP? Don't keep telling us you wanna get him 500 at bats this year and he's one of the players you're building the team around if all he is is a platoon player. At some point you have to expose him to lefties if he's going to be an every day player.

I don't think he is a player you necessarily build around. He is a useful player, and is an asset as long as he is not making too much money, but I would move him before he gets expensive.

And I would choose Senzel 100 times out of 100 in that situation.

HammerTime
06-09-2019, 03:48 PM
seemed like he could have walked there

The throw was about to be cut. He would have been toast.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 03:48 PM
Reds 4
Phil’s 3
At the end of 7 innings

The Bullpen Has To Hold’em Now

The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Man Puig's bat is slooooow

Red Raindog
06-09-2019, 03:50 PM
Curses
Puigged again


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Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 03:50 PM
right down the middle, wow

HammerTime
06-09-2019, 03:51 PM
This is why you don’t do irrational things like extend Puig as quickly as possible.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 03:51 PM
Puig has seen more fastballs than any hitter in MLB
Billy Hamilton has seen the 2nd most.

Red Raindog
06-09-2019, 03:52 PM
Puig has seen more fastballs than any hitter in MLB
Billy Hamilton has seen the 2nd most.

Has Puig hit one yet?

[emoji48]


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The Operator
06-09-2019, 03:52 PM
Puig has seen more fastballs than any hitter in MLB
Billy Hamilton has seen the 2nd most.

Teams have absolutely no fear of him this year.

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 03:52 PM
Puig has seen more fastballs than any hitter in MLB
Billy Hamilton has seen the 2nd most.

What pitch can they guy hit because he sure cant hit the breaking ball either? Just crazy

Red Raindog
06-09-2019, 03:53 PM
Thatís a pretty amazing strike call on Iglesias


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dsterry
06-09-2019, 03:55 PM
Jordan Baker has been horrible today. I'm surprised it took this long for Bell to come out.

Wonderful Monds
06-09-2019, 03:58 PM
Is Puig just done or.....?

mamell
06-09-2019, 03:59 PM
Hammer looks like a 12 year old kids out there..

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 04:00 PM
Man Puig's bat is slooooow

He really needs to sit for a few days. The only problem is that he is one of the Reds' best defensive outfielders by far.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 04:00 PM
I love Van Meter patience

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 04:02 PM
I love Van Meter patience

I wouldn't mind seeing VanMeter start in the OF over a couple of weeks and see how he can handle it..

WrongVerb
06-09-2019, 04:04 PM
Phillies announcers commenting on the Reds outfielders walking out to their positions instead of running.

Why so lethargic?

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:06 PM
Big K for Amir

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 04:06 PM
Garrett owns Harper, wow.

Really think Amir might be the closer of the future.

mamell
06-09-2019, 04:06 PM
Another million dollar strikeout!

Red Raindog
06-09-2019, 04:06 PM
Wow
Garrett spits out Harper


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Tony Cloninger
06-09-2019, 04:08 PM
The Reds were playing better until these last few games and after that 1-8 start.

But sure they quit on Bell already. Of course. Barely first week of June.

How old are some of you posters? Not old enough to understand the ebb and flow of a season at all really.
Why follow this sport? Follow football. That would work better with the life and death mentality of every series. Heck every Game really.

The 1-8 start just has made any losing streak of more than 3-4 games the complete breakdown of any sense of rationality.

What you can get worried about is the state of the farm and how little pitching there is. Thatís something to get worked up over.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:08 PM
Do Your Job Iggy

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 04:08 PM
I don't think Iglesias is such a lock. I worry every time he takes the mound.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 04:09 PM
Iggy gets us out of the 8th


Hopefully good Iggy for the 9th

WrongVerb
06-09-2019, 04:09 PM
I don't think Iglesias is such a lock. I worry every time he takes the mound.

Same here.

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 04:10 PM
The Reds were playing better until these last few games and after that 1-8 start.

But sure they quit on Bell already. Of course. Barely first week of June.

How old are some of you posters? Not old enough to understand the ebb and flow of a season at all really.
Why follow this sport? Follow football. That would work better with the life and death mentality of every series. Heck every Game really.

The 1-8 start just has made any losing streak of more than 3-4 games the complete breakdown of any sense of rationality.

What you can get worried about is the state of the farm and how little pitching there is. That’s something to get worked up over.

Do you want to be humiliated?

mamell
06-09-2019, 04:10 PM
Good time for the top of our lineup to be hitting. Some more runs might be quite helpful, but whaddo I know about the game?

Kingspoint
06-09-2019, 04:11 PM
I don't think Iglesias is such a lock. I worry every time he takes the mound.

He and Garrett need to flipflop roles.

Tony Cloninger
06-09-2019, 04:11 PM
Do you want to be humiliated?


Thank you sir may I have another.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 04:11 PM
Hammer borrowed his glasses from the nearest 1980's high school principal.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 04:11 PM
This JD Hammer guy has way too cool of a name to look like such a nerd.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 04:12 PM
Hammer time

Fil3232
06-09-2019, 04:12 PM
This strike zone is a wiiiiiiiide

adkindo
06-09-2019, 04:12 PM
Hammer borrowed his glasses from the nearest 1980's high school principal.

great name, bad look

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 04:12 PM
This JD Hammer guy has way too cool of a name to look like such a nerd.

Sounds like a pro wrestler.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:13 PM
Don’t care what anybody says

I love Nick Senzel

adkindo
06-09-2019, 04:13 PM
Senzel hammered JD

Big Klu
06-09-2019, 04:14 PM
Marshall is one of Ohio University's two biggest rivals, but an OU alumnus who shall remain nameless doesn't know what town it is in.

#smh

dsterry
06-09-2019, 04:19 PM
Iglesias made Hoskins look silly in that AB.

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:19 PM
Lord, I hope Iglesias can get it done today.

To tell the truth I have more faith in Amir and Bowman right now.

Iglesias gets a K

adkindo
06-09-2019, 04:20 PM
Marshall is one of Ohio University's two biggest rivals, but an OU alumnus who shall remain nameless doesn't know what town it is in.

#smh

curious, what are they rivals in? I (WVU fan) follow Marshall "lightly" since many of my family graduated from there, but I have never really thought of Ohio U as a significant rival. Honestly, with all the conference changes in recent decades, it feels like both WVU and Marshall's rivalry's have been diminished.

The Operator
06-09-2019, 04:21 PM
Hooo boy

Realmuto on board with a single


C'mon Iggy...

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:21 PM
A Double Play would work right now

ochoa30
06-09-2019, 04:21 PM
This strike zone is a wiiiiiiiide

For the Phillies pitchers only

The Operator
06-09-2019, 04:22 PM
2 down

mth123
06-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Phil Gosselin. That should help iggy a bit.

JaxRed
06-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Hate to see go ahead run at plate

Ron Madden
06-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Ok Iggy one more out!

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Reds Win!!!

The Operator
06-09-2019, 04:23 PM
Reds win!!!!

mth123
06-09-2019, 04:24 PM
OK, Great come off the mat win. That was really needed.

Tom Servo
06-09-2019, 04:24 PM
We're good again! :beerme:

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Lets go with Peraza LF--Senzel CF--VanMeter RF
Suarez/Iglasias/Dietrich/Votto Infield
Casali C
Let them start for at least a week regardless of pitching. See how they perform.

dsterry
06-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Good win today to avoid the sweep. Gotta get those bats going but another well pitched game. Great job by the bullpen.

bigfoot52
06-09-2019, 04:26 PM
A win finally. It could have easily gone either way.
Let's start a streak now!

adkindo
06-09-2019, 04:26 PM
I do not think it can be overstated how bad the Reds needed this game....