6/19/19 - Reds vs. Astros

[Tom Servo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9bdww-WwAAblGo.jpg

[Boston Red]

Need a gem from Mahle today. He's due one.

[cumberlandreds]

Altuve is back for the Astros today and in their lineup.

This is a 12:35 game today.

[Ironman92]

Wish I was there. My kid’s summer schedule is hard to believe busy.

A sweep would be cool.

[JCM11]

I really don't get playing Peraza over Farmer.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Is Votto hurt or just getting a Bell-rest?

[PuffyPig]

Is Votto hurt or just getting a Bell-rest?

I assume they are now starting to give Votto more frequent days off, especially a day game after a night game.

[Kingspoint]

Need a gem from Mahle today. He's due one.

He certainly yelled loud enough that he has to back it up today or forever shut his trap.

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I assume they are now starting to give Votto more frequent days off, especially a day game after a night game.

Votto has a .200 BA against Cole lifetime. He should sit.

[Kingspoint]

I really don't get playing Peraza over Farmer.

Cole probably isn't someone to face and have success against the first time. Peraza has faced him only five times, but he does have two hits.

[757690]

Game is delayed by weather and will not start on time.

[malcontent]

I really don't get playing Peraza over Farmer.
Amen to that. And the day after Farmer saved the game with his HR.

And Bell just stated that he needed to get Farmer more PT. Today was a crystal-clear opportunity for that.

[Maldez]

Is Votto hurt or just getting a Bell-rest?

He wore himself out with all those silly, upper-cut, chop-chop, practice swings.

[JaxRed]

From C. Trent

There's got to be at least 30-40 people who have become Robert Stephenson fans for life today. The last 15-20 minutes, it's been pouring and he's been signing autographs, taking pictures and shaking hands for all comers in the pouring rain. It's been cool to watch. Good on him.

[Shoeless Jeff]

Votto still didn't look like he is running real well on those doubles, so probably a mix of just rest and partly precautionary, particularly if it is real wet.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Could we possibly, just maybe, string together a 4 game win streak against teams not from Miami?

You know until some posted that the other day, I was have trouble remembering if the Reds had even had a 3 game win streak.

One step forward, one back... rinse repeat.


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[BluegrassRedleg]

Motion to rename this place New Seattle...


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[PuffyPig]

Cole is one pitcher who is great but has had little success vs. the Reds for some odd reason. Perhaps it's just a random thing.

[Boston Red]

Any update on game time?

[NCReds]

Any update on game time?

1:00


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[Ron Madden]

For the love of God!

Please stop raining!!!!

[Ironman92]

Lol at Thom

I hope there are 3 rain delays and this game ends at 9:30...with a Reds win in 14 innings on a Votto walkoff walk

[Ironman92]

Thom...it’s better to “nibble” than pitch it over the middle and it’s not super easy to hit the corner

[Ron Madden]

Double Play !!!

[JaxRed]

Nice efficient 12 pitch inning by Mahle.

[Ron Madden]

Good Eye Nick

[RedlegJ]

Thom please stop calling him "Da Wink"

[NebraskaRed]

I love when Thom tries to make a point, then acknowledges that his point is b.s., then continues to try and make that point.

[Ron Madden]

Da Wink wit da walk

[cumberlandreds]

Winky Dink walks

[Tom Servo]

Eugenio....

[HammerTime]

Dang, Suarez really struggling lately.

[cumberlandreds]

Suarez hits into a DP.Blahhhhhhh..............

[Redsfan6272]

walked the first two guys and your swinging at the first pitch?????

[JaxRed]

Wow Suarez is slumping bad....

[NatiRedGals]

Geno swings at first pitch alot

[NebraskaRed]

walked the first two guys and your swinging at the first pitch?????

yeah, not the best approach to that AB

[RedlegJ]

That stings

[cumberlandreds]

Dietrich lines out. Well, that was a wasted chance.

[Tom Servo]

Hopefully that wasn't their best chance at getting to Cole today.

[NebraskaRed]

man that fizzled out fast

[Ron Madden]

Dang, Suarez really struggling lately.

Geno is now 9 for 60 since being hit on the hand by Pittsburgh on May 28th.

[Cooper]

Geno needs a day off. Needs to clear his palette. That AB didn't make sense.

[cumberlandreds]

Geno is now 9 for 60 since being hit on the hand by Pittsburgh on May 28th.

I think you found the problem.

[TheBigLebowski]

I'll laugh to kill myself if Mahle walks Marisnick and Bell comes & yanks him.

[gagliano]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9bdww-WwAAblGo.jpg

what? no checkered uni with a bright green had from 1902???

[NebraskaRed]

was Verlander complaining about the "light" balls that both teams hit out, or just the Reds?

[Rolando]

why is Suarez still batting third. he kills every rally lately

[NebraskaRed]

those buttons on White's jersey are holding on for dear life.

[cumberlandreds]

Mahle with another good inning.

[TheBigLebowski]

That'll play

[NebraskaRed]

PUIG!

[Tom Servo]

Puig! :jump:

[cumberlandreds]

Home Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump ::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:: jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::ju mp::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

[Red Raindog]

Puig hit that ball HARD


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[BluegrassRedleg]

Crushed.


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[Bourgeois Zee]

Puig! :jump:

That ball was tattooed.

[Rolando]

that a boy Wild Horse!

[TheBigLebowski]

I've been critical of him lately, and in that time frame he's started to mash. Coincidence? I think not.

[Ironman92]

Puig murdered that ball

[Kc61]

Astros are showing some leather in this series.

[BCubb2003]

I’m watching the game on Apple TV and got the MLB.com alert on Puig’s home run a second before he hit it. I promise to use my superpower for good.

[TheBigLebowski]

Peraza, unfortunately, has accepted my criticisms and run with them.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds go down in order after the Puig HR. 1-0 Reds

[Ironman92]

Geno is now 9 for 60 since being hit on the hand by Pittsburgh on May 28th.

Interesting timing but I just see a guy that rarely tries to go with the pitch. He’s trying to pull and pulling off everything

[NebraskaRed]

"Nibbling" is Thom's word of the day

[BCubb2003]

"Nibbling" is Thom's word of the day

Chris Welsh should be negotiating world peace, he’s so diplomatic.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Chris Welsh should be negotiating world peace, he’s so diplomatic.

He'd be a fine pitching coach, I suspect.

[cumberlandreds]

Another 1-2-3 inning for Mahle.

[JaxRed]

Heard this as I jumped in shower, but my Dad would fit in that 150 miles circle. Vandalia, OH, 93 years old, Battle of the Bulge and POW at Slaughterhouse 5.

[cumberlandreds]

Chris Welsh should be negotiating world peace, he’s so diplomatic.

Plenty of opening for just such that here at State Department. :)

[Rantly]

Chris Welsh should be negotiating world peace, he’s so diplomatic.

He's got one of the hardest jobs in baseball.

[WrongVerb]

Cincinnati Reds
@Reds

Numbers on that Puig dinger:

�� 428 feet
�� 107.9 mph exit velocity

#BornToBaseball
5:44pm · 19 Jun 2019

[NebraskaRed]

"Where's the glory in pitching in the 7th inning?"

Closers seem to have lead singer's disease, as they call it in music.

[Ironman92]

"Nibbling" is Thom's word of the day

Nibbled it straight up in the air!

[TheBigLebowski]

98-99 MPH queso up in the zone is not what Diet Rich needs to be nibbling on.

[cumberlandreds]

Reds get a couple of two out hits but leave'em stranded. 1-0 Reds

[Bourgeois Zee]

Winker's heating up. His last month: .290/ .371/ .468/ .839

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was the old mid-90s Braves strike there.

[WrongVerb]

"Nibbling" is Thom's word of the day



Lance McAlister
@LanceMcAlister

Mahle is painting today
#Reds
5:59pm · 19 Jun 2019

[Ron Madden]

Winker's heating up. His last month: .290/ .371/ .468/ .839

Glad he wasn’t sent to Louisville

[JaxRed]

At this point I'm wondering if we can shut them out....

[cumberlandreds]

Another 1-2-3 inning, 10 in a row. 1-0 Reds in the 4th

[TheBigLebowski]

Sometimes I forget just how small Jose Altuve is.

[Ron Madden]

Nobody says anything when the shift works

[JaxRed]

Sometimes I forget just how small Jose Altuve is.

Kevin Hart disagrees

[RedTeamGo!]

glad he wasn’t sent to louisville

zero


point


zero

[cumberlandreds]

Infield hit for Iglesias.

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Peraza loops in a single and runners at the corners with one out.

[NebraskaRed]

good to have Iglesias back

[HammerTime]

Big potential run here.

[JaxRed]

Strangely enough..Peraza found the first pitch to his liking....

[cumberlandreds]

Casali K's. Mahle will have to help himself now.

[JaxRed]

Bad at bat by Casali.

[WrongVerb]

Sometimes I forget just how small Jose Altuve is.

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/66/65/50/14375433/3/360x0.jpg

[cumberlandreds]

Mahle K's and leaves two stranded once again.

[HammerTime]

Big potential run here.

So much for that.

[malcontent]

Casali screwed up taking strike 1.

[ochoa30]

Cole probably very happy to be pitching in the NL park today after that inning

[JaxRed]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/66/65/50/14375433/3/360x0.jpg

Just do it......14992

[Ron Madden]

Mahle is really pitch efficient today, he could be something special if he could keep this going

[BluegrassRedleg]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/66/65/50/14375433/3/360x0.jpg

That Little League team that always had the 20-year-old kid...

[TheBigLebowski]

Was that Dietrich's kid shagging that grounder?

[cumberlandreds]

Dietrich with a good play to end the 5th. 1-0 Reds

[NebraskaRed]

Garrett "Drew" Stubbs with a groundout to first to end the inning.

[Bourgeois Zee]

According to Gameday, Mahle's getting squeezed here.

Seven pitches this inning were at least partially in the strike zone and called balls. Three were egregiously bad.

[ochoa30]

Not sure what Senzel is looking for. 2 fastballs right down the pipe and he takes both.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Dietrich with a good play to end the 5th. 1-0 Reds

He's been a net positive with the glove all season so far.

Fangraphs' defensive measurements likes him a bit in that regard.

[Ron Madden]

Wink with another hit

[NC Reds]

Winker looks sharp at the plate again. Good to see.

[cumberlandreds]

Wink with another hit

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[NebraskaRed]

it's time for a day off or two for Geno

[BluegrassRedleg]

Never thought Cole touched 100 on the gun.

[Ron Madden]

Good AB Dietrich

[Bourgeois Zee]

That was a phenomenal AB from Dietrich.

[GAC]

I was on the back porch relaxing in the recliner listening on WLW, but kept nodding off LOL So I came came inside, watching on TV, hoping to stay awake yelling at Thom to shut the the f**** up!

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Puig toe jam!

[Spanky]

101 !?

[cumberlandreds]

Puig K's to end the inning. 1-0 Reds

[Tadasimha]

Whoa! Cole brought some serious heat to those last two! Puig fouls off 100 mph so he ramped it up to 100.6 for strike 3

[Boston Red]

So, I guess Bell goes and gets Mahle at some point during this inning, right? :)

[NC Reds]

6 years, $140 million for Cole in the offseason.

Not enough to get it done?

[Kingspoint]

Regardless of what happens here, Bell needs to let Mahle try to pitch himself out of trouble, AND LET HIM FAIL, and be OK with it, should it happen. It's the only way Mahle can take the next step in his development.

[Bourgeois Zee]

At least they made him work.

He hits this inning.

They may take him out an inning early.

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6 years, $140 million for Cole in the offseason.

Not enough to get it done?

He'll want $30 million to move from Houston, I'd imagine.

[BluegrassRedleg]

101 !?

Yeah. I'm not buying this gun they have. That thing's registering 3-4 mph too high IMO.

[GAC]

Something woke Mahle up. Everything's working for him. He looks really sharp, solid command.

[Bourgeois Zee]

There went the immaculate inning.

[Griffey012]

Something woke Mahle up. Everything's working for him. He looks really sharp, solid command.

I wonder if in response to Mahle's comments Bell simply said "pitch better".

[cumberlandreds]

Something woke Mahle up. Everything's working for him. He looks really sharp, solid command.

That talk with Bell may have done it. Maybe cleared the air a little and took some pressure off?

[UPRedsFan]

So, I guess Bell goes and gets Mahle at some point during this inning, right? :)

Don’t think so. Bottom of inning might be a tough decision with Mahle hitting 4th

[HammerTime]

Mahle feeling it today.

[Chip R]

He'll want $30 million to move from Houston, I'd imagine.

If this off season resembles the last two, he'll probably re-sign with HOU with a decent raise but not what he would get 3-4 years ago on the open market.

[HammerTime]

Don’t think so. Bottom of inning might be a tough decision with Mahle hitting 4th

If you are in a spot to add to the lead you probably have to take him out. Well see..

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Mahle feeling it today.

I'm sorry. :cry:

[cumberlandreds]

Brantley, not Jeff, hits one out and it's 2-1 Astros.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Great 0-2 pitch.

[Kingspoint]

I wonder if in response to Mahle's comments Bell simply said "pitch better".

Emough people said it, including Mahle to himself, that Bell didn't have to.

[Boston Red]

See Tyler, that's why you keep getting taken out in the 6th!

[Spanky]

let's get those runs right back.

[GAC]

Mistake pitch and Brantley makes him pay. 2-1 Astros. Can't hang a breaking ball like that LOL

[ochoa30]

Offense needs to step it up. Mahle was great today.

[redsrule2500]

Mahle feeling it today.

jinxed it. Interesting that Mahle has so much trouble with 2 outs.

[Kingspoint]

See Tyler, that's why you keep getting taken out in the 6th!

:rolleyes:

[Ladeda]

Offense needs to step it up. Mahle was great today.

^ This. 2 ER, 6 IP. I will take that every day of the week.

[NebraskaRed]

had Bell removed Mahle before he threw the first pitch in the first inning, none of this would have happened.

Something to think about.

[mhs95_06]

Once again, low and not far enough in to a lefty with a quick bat is not good for the pitcher!

[Spanky]

Mistake pitch and Brantley makes him pay. 2-1 Astros. Can't hang a breaking ball like that LOL

It was on the bottom inside corner of the zone.

[RedTeamGo!]

See Tyler, that's why you keep getting taken out in the 6th!

Yeah he needs to learn how to get run support!

[ochoa30]

It was on the bottom inside corner of the zone.

Yeah, it was more good hitting then bad pitching but I'm sure he did not want that ball in the zone at all

[Rolando]

it was still too good of a pitch on.0-2

[JFLegal]

reds had chances every inning to score, but never could (except for the puig blast). not going to beat a good team doing that nonsense.

once again the bats fall asleep when mahle pitches. although, what a stupid decision to throw that pitch on an 0-2 count to brantley, who can't hit a fastball these days.

[Kingspoint]

Offense needs to step it up. Mahle was great today.
Yes, he was.

A desperate and powerful Houston team desperate to not get swept and he has dominated them for six innings, likely seven or even eight.

[JFLegal]

casali's last at-bat was a killer. needed to score there.

[Spanky]

it was still too good of a pitch on.0-2

yea but I wouldn't classify that as a hanger Brantley still needed to put a good swing on the ball.

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well that was quick

[Tadasimha]

Way to make him work, guys

[cumberlandreds]

Reds out in order. 2-1 Astros

[JFLegal]

just when casali seized the starting job (it seemed) he becomes really bad.

[NebraskaRed]

nm

[GAC]

Mahle pitched one heck of a game!

[HammerTime]

Mahle pitched one heck of a game!

Yep, can't complain about his outing. Looked great.

[cumberlandreds]

Mahle pitched one heck of a game!

Mahle is still in there. This will be it though with him leading off next inning.

[Tony Cloninger]

reds had chances every inning to score, but never could (except for the puig blast). not going to beat a good team doing that nonsense.

once again the bats fall asleep when mahle pitches. although, what a stupid decision to throw that pitch on an 0-2 count to brantley, who can't hit a fastball these days.

I agree.
Pitchers who get beat like this on 0-2 pitches. 2 outs. Even if it’s an issue with no scoring runs for them still tend to be the ones that find ways to lose games like this.

[Tadasimha]

All right, Tyler, keep it at one run

[redsrule2500]

Mahle pitched one heck of a game!

...still pitching a game!!

[Falls City Beer]

I was screaming for Bell to take Mahle out before Brantley. Any chance that was Bell’s way of showing him up, letting him face a top ten in MLB lefty in GAB with the game in the balance? (That almost certainly was the game right there). The odds had to have been about as high in Brantley’s favor as he could ask for.

[Kingspoint]

A performance like this mends all fences and lifts the entire team. They need to come through with the bats these last three innings.

[NC Reds]

Wow, that was smooth.

[Boston Red]

I was screaming for Bell to take Mahle out before Brantley. Any chance that was Bell’s way of showing him up, letting him face a top ten in MLB lefty in GAB? The odds had to have been about as high in Brantley’s favor as he could ask for.

Got to think Bell would like to win this game more than show up his pitcher.

[Kingspoint]

Mahle might have thrown a complete game if we'd had the lead.

[GAC]

Iglesias is just slick at SS

[cumberlandreds]

Mahle with another good inning. Lets get some runs!

[ochoa30]

Beautiful game pitched by Mahle!! Deserves to win. Get the kid some runs!!

[Falls City Beer]

Got to think Bell would like to win this game more than show up his pitcher.

Idk. Managers don’t like being questioned. The clear and obvious move was to lift him.

[Kingspoint]

:thumbup:

[Boston Red]

Idk. Managers don’t like being questioned.

Agree with you on that. They also don't like to be fired, though.

[Spanky]

Idk. Managers don’t like being questioned. The clear and obvious move was to lift him.

yea it was totally clear and obvious when the guy hadn't given up a run yet and your best lefty out of the pen last night gave up 2 runs in less than an inning pitched.

[NC Reds]

Houston has quite a bullpen.

[ochoa30]

Idk. Managers don’t like being questioned. The clear and obvious move was to lift him.

This is such non sense. He was cruising and the Reds need innings. He got ahead in the count and made a mistake to one of the best hitters in the league. It happens. Bell did the right thing regardless of the negative outcome.

[Ron Madden]

It’s easy to blame the offense but Cole pitched a good game too

[Falls City Beer]

Beautiful game pitched by Mahle!! Deserves to win. Get the kid some runs!!

The Astros with a lead are nails. The game likely ended with Brantley’s homer. The Reds don’t have much to counter their pen.

[JCM11]

Farmer needs more PT.

[Spanky]

Farmer is our best pinch hitter since Chris Heisey

[ochoa30]

The Astros with a lead are nails. The game likely ended with Brantley’s homer. The Reds don’t have much to counter their pen.

We'll see

[Falls City Beer]

This is such non sense. He was cruising and the Reds need innings. He got ahead in the count and made a mistake to one of the best hitters in the league. It happens. Bell did the right thing regardless of the negative outcome.

Mahle is never cruising. He’s a long ball waiting to happen. Bell is dead right to have a quick hook with him.

[Boston Red]

Double plays aren't great. Unless you're the team in the field!

[Spanky]

Not looking good

[ochoa30]

Ugh, Senzel struggling here recently.

[JCM11]

This offense is depressing. Something has to happen to shake things up.

[Kingspoint]

Well, that's the first time I've cussed today.

[NebraskaRed]

I was thinking Winker might get out of this game without hitting it to that same spot on the right side, but there it was.

[WrongVerb]

101 !?



David Adler
@_dadler

Gerrit Cole vs. Yasiel Puig

2nd inning: Puig 🚀 HR
107.9 mph, 19°, 428 ft

5th inning: Cole 🔥 K
100.6 mph, 2,653 rpm, 3.93 ft high
(fastest K pitch by a SP this year)
6:52pm · 19 Jun 2019 ·

[Falls City Beer]

This offense is depressing. Something has to happen to shake things up.

They had to protect that one run lead. They aren’t getting any more today. All they had to do was either pitch around Brantley or get a lefty in there.

[JaxRed]

Bowman doesn't get much work.

[Rolando]

Mahle cant complain and then when he gives you the chance to get out of it you throw an 0-2 meatball. the offense has been horrible I agree but he deserves a lot of the blame to

[ochoa30]

They had to protect that one run lead. They aren’t getting any more today. All they had to do was either pitch around Brantley or get a lefty in there.

Highly unlikely that the pen was holding that lead either. They're not facing the Marlins here. The offense has failed again today. No one else to blame here.

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[Cooper]

Someone -the starter has to eat some innings- taking him out against Brantley makes no sense.

[Tom Servo]

They had to protect that one run lead. They aren’t getting any more today. All they had to do was either pitch around Brantley or get a lefty in there.
Alright man, we get it. And I actually agree with you, I prefer the Captain Hook routine to the "gut feeling" about how good a starter looks. But if they lose this one there's still about 30 more that bother me more than this one against a World Series caliber team, and here's still another two innings to go.

[Spanky]

They had to protect that one run lead. They aren’t getting any more today. All they had to do was either pitch around Brantley or get a lefty in there.

This is a weird take.

[ochoa30]

Mahle cant complain and then when he gives you the chance to get out of it you throw an 0-2 meatball. the offense has been horrible I agree but he deserves a lot of the blame to

2 runs in 7 innings against the Astros so no

[Boston Red]

Mahle cant complain and then when he gives you the chance to get out of it you throw an 0-2 meatball. the offense has been horrible I agree but he deserves a lot of the blame to

I'd say Mahle deserves zero blame. 2 runs in 7 IP is doing your job 100 times out of 100. Now, the fact that he gave up a two out HR in the 6th after complaining about not being allowed to pitch deep into games...it's a bit of hoisting with your own petard, sure.

[JCM11]

Mahle cant complain and then when he gives you the chance to get out of it you throw an 0-2 meatball. the offense has been horrible I agree but he deserves a lot of the blame to

We can't throw a shutout every game. Eventually the 25th ranked offense in MLB is going to have to wake up if they want to win games on a consistent basis.

[Rolando]

We can't throw a shutout every game. Eventually the 25th ranked offense in MLB is going to have to wake up if they want to win games on a consistent basis.

I don't disagree but let's not act like Mahle ever left the game with a shutout this year

[Spanky]

I don't disagree but let's not act like Mahle ever left the game with a shutout this year

pitchers rarely do...

[Rolando]

I'd say Mahle deserves zero blame. 2 runs in 7 IP is doing your job 100 times out of 100. Now, the fact that he gave up a two out HR in the 6th after complaining about not being allowed to pitch deep into games...it's a bit of hoisting with your own petard, sure.

He did pitch a really good game I agree. All I'm saying is I hope he learned a lesson that it's not really ever good point about that kind of stuff in the media

[Falls City Beer]

This is a weird take.

We know our offense is bad. We know Mahle is a long ball machine. We know that Brantley is a top 10 in MLB lefty hitter. It’s literally 100% sensible.

Sure, I get it. The offense needs to be better. Guess what? It’s not going to. The season is half over. So your in-game strategies should take into consideration the facts on the ground, not wishing this offense would stop being pathetic.

[Boston Red]

pitchers rarely do...

Well, pitchers not facing the Reds rarely do...

[Spanky]

We know our offense is bad. We know Mahle is a long ball machine. We know that Brantley is a top 10 in MLB lefty hitter. It’s literally 100% sensible.

I was talking about the fact that you are going to blame this loss on Mahle and not the offense.

[Ron Madden]

When Houston’s offense is held to 2 runs Reds pitcher gets credit.

When Reds offense is held to 2 runs or less Reds offense gets the blame.

[Rolando]

We know our offense is bad. We know Mahle is a long ball machine. We know that Brantley is a top 10 in MLB lefty hitter. It’s literally 100% sensible.

I completely agree it's all about knowing the situation

[Bourgeois Zee]

They had to protect that one run lead. They aren’t getting any more today. All they had to do was either pitch around Brantley or get a lefty in there.

I'd give this more credence were you to have said so before he hit it out.

[Spanky]

We sure have some managerial geniuses show up in these threads when the Reds are losing.

[Tom Servo]

When Houston’s offense I held to 2 runs Reds pitcher gets credit.

When Reds offense is held to 2 runs or less Reds offense gets the blame.
Yeah I really don't get the attitude about being mad at any particular person or part of the team in regards to today's game so far. They're down one run to possibly the best team in the AL who had their second best starter, an All-Star last year, on the mound. Not saying you have to settle for just being happy to be here, but they won the series already and can still win this one! A little perspective is nice.

[NebraskaRed]

nice!

[BluegrassRedleg]

WINKER D :eek:

[Falls City Beer]

I'd give this more credence were you to have said so before he hit it out.

I did to my friend. But you probably wouldn’t anyway. Again my predicting that outcome isn’t the Kreskin moment. It’s a move screaming to be made.

[ochoa30]

He is fielding the throw. If this is overturned it will be asinine.

[Boston Red]

Yeah I really don't get the attitude about being mad at any particular person or part of the team in regards to today's game so far. They're down one run to possibly the best team in the AL who had their second best starter, an All-Star last year, on the mound. Not saying you have to settle for just being happy to be here, but they won the series already and can still win this one! A little perspective is nice.

SURELY we can at least blame Curt Casali for not getting that runner in from third with less than two outs, right?

[NC Reds]

Kemp got Winked.

[Falls City Beer]

I was talking about the fact that you are going to blame this loss on Mahle and not the offense.


It’s not about blame. It’s about strategy.

[JaxRed]

Great explanation by Chris on that play.

[JCM11]

WINKER D :eek:

He threw a two hopper to home from 80 feet away, but it got the job done:laugh:

[Tom Servo]

SURELY we can at least blame Curt Casali for not getting that runner in from third with less than two outs, right?
That did suck but if they don't win I'm not holding Casali personally responsible.

I'm on record though for not buying into the "Casali is actually really good" thing, ideally he should mostly be hitting against LHP.

[Spanky]

It’s not about blame. It’s about strategy.

Okay I didn't know I was in the presence of Tony freaking LaRussa here... my bad.

[redsrule2500]

almost trashed all of my MLB affiliated merchandise in the 0.5 seconds I thought he was called safe.

[androosh]

WINKER D :eek:

This is a family board.

[JFLegal]

i was about ready to fire all my employees if that was overturned.

[ok, i wouldn't do that. only the non-reds fans.]

[ochoa30]

Yeah I really don't get the attitude about being mad at any particular person or part of the team in regards to today's game so far. They're down one run to possibly the best team in the AL who had their second best starter, an All-Star last year, on the mound. Not saying you have to settle for just being happy to be here, but they won the series already and can still win this one! A little perspective is nice.

If the Reds offense hadn't been so bad this year you wouldnt see this as much but they are the sole reason this team isnt playing as well as it should be. I do agree that Cole is very good and did a great job pitching out of jams today but the Reds once again had multiple scoring opportunities and couldn't capitalize on a single one.

[TheBigLebowski]

Time for a Diet Rich 80's heavy metal blast

[Cooper]

Welsh did an awesome job of laying out all the rational.

Taking out Mahle at the point mentioned is a football game strategy. They needed some innings out of the starter -there's 4 games coming up before an off day.

[TheBigLebowski]

That one didn't quite have the distance.

[JFLegal]

i will admit that when thom thought the call would get overturned, i felt more confident that it would not.

- - - Updated - - -

puig doubles!

[Tom Servo]

If the Reds offense hadn't been so bad this year you wouldnt see this as much but they are the sole reason this team isnt playing as well as it should be. I do agree that Cole is very good and did a great job pitching out of jams today but the Reds once again had multiple scoring opportunities and couldn't capitalize on a single one.
I agree but just don't think the one size fits all approach here works. I was pissed when they were getting blanked by Nick Pivetta, but how am I gonna be mad that they didn't get more against Gerritt Cole?

[ochoa30]

Need Jose to come up big here!!

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice AB Iglesias.

[JFLegal]

another blown opportunity. this game is a microcosm of the reds' entire season.

[ochoa30]

That was probably there shot but one more inning to go

[Tom Servo]

Puig OPS above .700 now for the first time this season, fyi

[JCM11]

I agree but just don't think the one size fits all approach here works. I was pissed when they were getting blanked by Nick Pivetta, but how am I gonna be mad that they didn't get more against Gerritt Cole?

The frustration isn't just about this game. The offense is 25th in scoring runs this year. They're not facing Gerrit Cole on a nightly basis.

[JFLegal]

The frustration isn't just about this game. The offense is 25th in scoring runs this year. They're not facing Gerrit Cole on a nightly basis.

plus, they were doing quite well off cole. they just kept choking in key situations.

[Rolando]

The frustration isn't just about this game. The offense is 25th in scoring runs this year. They're not facing Gerrit Cole on a nightly basis.

why not use Votto is a pinch hitter there Iglesias a bad hitter why would you want him up in that situation

[Falls City Beer]

Welsh did an awesome job of laying out all the rational.

Taking out Mahle at the point mentioned is a football game strategy. They needed some innings out of the starter -there's 4 games coming up before an off day.

So now was the game—the a ha moment—to allow the starters go beyond the self-imposed hard 6 inning max all year? Let a home run prone guy try to be Curt Schilling? Especially when you’ve gotten a brilliant 5 2/3 innings and probably a lead still.

[JFLegal]

why not use Votto is a pinch hitter there Iglesias a bad hitter why would you want him up in that situation

that's a very good point. iglesias has been good with runners in scoring position this year, but i would prefer votto up there for sure.

[ochoa30]

I agree but just don't think the one size fits all approach here works. I was pissed when they were getting blanked by Nick Pivetta, but how am I gonna be mad that they didn't get more against Gerritt Cole?

I hear that for sure. The thing that gets me about today is the Reds had a lot of baserunners and failed to come through. Yes, Cole is very good but if they got the guys on then they should be able to come up with one hit in one of those innings and they didnt. Of course that will happen in the course of a season but it happens to this team way too much so it's going to stick out a lot more. Cole was good but Mahle was better and the team is losing. Just sucks but you take a series win here every single time if you can get it.

[TheBigLebowski]

The frustration isn't just about this game. The offense is 25th in scoring runs this year. They're not facing Gerrit Cole on a nightly basis.

To add, Cole had a 3.67 ERA coming into today's game. He allowed 1 ER over 7 IP, so he performed noticeably better than his season's stats would have predicted.

He's good but he's far from untouchable, which is how the Reds made him look other than one swing from Yasiel. It's like this almost every game.

[Bourgeois Zee]

why not use Votto is a pinch hitter there Iglesias a bad hitter why would you want him up in that situation

Well, I told my cousin's best friend's aunt that it was simple strategy and that it was literally the only move, but by the time I'd said it, Iglesias had gotten out.

Still, were I the Cincinnati manager, we'd be undefeated.

Just sayin'.

[NebraskaRed]

Matt Bowman was such a great pick up

[NC Reds]

I like Bowman. Very pleasant surprise.

[Rolando]

Well, I told my cousin's best friend's aunt that it was simple strategy and that it was literally the only move, but by the time I'd said it, Iglesias had gotten out.

Still, were I the Cincinnati manager, we'd be undefeated.

Just sayin'.

Lol

[Spanky]

To add, Cole had a 3.67 ERA coming into today's game. He allowed 1 ER over 7 IP, so he performed noticeably better than his season's stats would have predicted.

He's good but he's far from untouchable, which is how the Reds made him look other than one swing from Yasiel. It's like this almost every game.

It evens out for what they did to Verlander yesterday.

[ochoa30]

Well, I told my cousin's best friend's aunt that it was simple strategy and that it was literally the only move, but by the time I'd said it, Iglesias had gotten out.

Still, were I the Cincinnati manager, we'd be undefeated.

Just sayin'.

Yeah, you should be able to predict the outcome of every AB so you can make the right decision. Bell is such an idiot!!

[JCM11]

why not use Votto is a pinch hitter there Iglesias a bad hitter why would you want him up in that situation

First base was open they would've walked him to get to Peraza.

[Alabama]

This is why you have to have some speed and/or some guys with bat control in a lineup. Especially one lacking as much talent as ours. It’s how you wind up with 8 hits, 3 walks and 1 run to show for it. 14 lob, 0-7 with risp.
No clutch at bats.
Need to have a miracle bottom 9

[Rolando]

First base was open they would've walked him to get to Peraza.

I see your point but to me Iglesias and Peraza or pretty much a wash. So you put the go-ahead run on first base that isn't all bad for the Reds either

[GAC]

How long is a pitcher expected to protect a 1-0 lead? LOL