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Ron Madden
06-30-2019, 10:02 AM
Senzel CF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Puig RF
Iglesias SS
Ervin LF
Peraza 2B
DeSclafani P
Casali C

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 10:46 AM
8 hitting from the right side + Votto.
Maybe that's a good recipe to beat Lester.

JCM11
06-30-2019, 10:51 AM
Absolutely ridiculous to have Scooter, Winker, and Dietrich all on the bench. Iglesias is ops'ing .657 vs LHP and has hit 5th 3 games in a row. Farmer is crushing LHP this year so today seems like a good time to give him a start.

DocRed
06-30-2019, 11:19 AM
Absolutely ridiculous to have Scooter, Winker, and Dietrich all on the bench. Iglesias is ops'ing .657 vs LHP and has hit 5th 3 games in a row. Farmer is crushing LHP this year so today seems like a good time to give him a start.

Putting Scooter out there for a third straight day against a leftie just coming off an injury would be pushing it. Winker or Dietrich I wouldn't mind in the lineup however.

malcontent
06-30-2019, 11:25 AM
Absolutely ridiculous to have Scooter, Winker, and Dietrich all on the bench. Iglesias is ops'ing .657 vs LHP and has hit 5th 3 games in a row. Farmer is crushing LHP this year so today seems like a good time to give him a start.
Agreed. Farmer should at least get the nod over Peraza at 2B. Casali hitting 9th also makes zero sense to me.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 11:48 AM
Peraza batting .414 vs Lester. 12/29

RR1971
06-30-2019, 11:54 AM
Lol at Peraza. Bell should be fired just for playing him too much. We can’t waste games by putting Scooter on the bench. He needs to play and get at bats so we can trade him. Putting a trade chip on the bench who hasn’t played all year is stupid. People need to see him play and everybody has seen enough of Peraza.

Alabama
06-30-2019, 11:58 AM
Has Winker not played this series? That’s inexcusable

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 12:04 PM
[QUOTE=RR1971;3972794]Lol at Peraza. Bell should be fired just for playing him too much. We can’t waste games by putting Scooter on the bench. He needs to play and get at bats so we can trade him. Putting a trade chip on the bench who hasn’t played all year is stupid. People need to see him play and everybody has seen enough of Peraza.


LOL.
You can ignore stats, but I don't think MLB managers do. Including Bell.
Gennett is blue chip trade bait? Coming off a major injury? He will have plenty of time to show that he can regained his form from last year. Don't push Scooter, he hasn't looked great at the plate in Games 1 and 2. PS== Scooter 2/13 vs Lester (.154/5 Ks) And I love Scooter as a Red.

RR1971
06-30-2019, 12:09 PM
[QUOTE=RR1971;3972794]Lol at Peraza. Bell should be fired just for playing him too much. We can’t waste games by putting Scooter on the bench. He needs to play and get at bats so we can trade him. Putting a trade chip on the bench who hasn’t played all year is stupid. People need to see him play and everybody has seen enough of Peraza.


LOL.
You can ignore stats, but I don't think MLB managers do. Including Bell.
Gennett is blue chip trade bait? Coming off a major injury? He will have plenty of time to show that he can regained his form from last year. Don't push Scooter, he hasn't looked great at the plate in Games 1 and 2. PS== Scooter 2/13 vs Lester (.154/5 Ks) And I love Scooter as a Red.
The Reds aren’t going to sign Scooter and his only use to the Reds is trading him. The fact that he hasn’t looked good suppprts my argument. He needs at bats.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 12:10 PM
Lol at Peraza. Bell should be fired just for playing him too much. We can’t waste games by putting Scooter on the bench. He needs to play and get at bats so we can trade him. Putting a trade chip on the bench who hasn’t played all year is stupid. People need to see him play and everybody has seen enough of Peraza.

LOL.
You can ignore stats, but I don't think MLB managers do. Including Bell.
Gennett is blue chip trade bait? Coming off a major injury? He will have plenty of time to show that he can regained his form from last year. Don't push Scooter, he hasn't looked great at the plate in Games 1 and 2. PS== Scooter 2/13 vs Lester (.154/5 Ks) And I love Scooter as a Red.

malcontent
06-30-2019, 12:24 PM
Peraza batting .414 vs Lester. 12/29
Thanks, didn't know that.

On a separate topic...those 1936 Palm Beach alternates could be difficult to watch.

DocRed
06-30-2019, 12:39 PM
Peraza is also our best base stealer, something that shouldn't be ignored against "no-throw over" Lester

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 12:55 PM
Thanks, didn't know that.

On a separate topic...those 1936 Palm Beach alternates could be difficult to watch.

You are right. To me these uniforms are butt ugly.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 12:58 PM
At the end of the day: Castillo our only All-Star?

Jomama
06-30-2019, 12:59 PM
A Cub batter better be beaned in today's game or else this team has officially thrown in the towel.

Jomama
06-30-2019, 01:02 PM
At the end of the day: Castillo our only All-Star?

Yes, although Amir Garrett is marginally worthy. Nobody else is deserving.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:04 PM
A Cub batter better be beamed in today's game or else this team has officially thrown in the towel.

Pick one.
I'll take Baez. In a insignificant part of the game.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:08 PM
I once again must voice my disapproval of the pitcher batting 8th.

Jomama
06-30-2019, 01:13 PM
Votto gunna Votto.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:14 PM
OK, my evaluation of the 1936 uniforms:

Caps: Good.

Jerseys: OK. Would be better with the wishbone-C Reds logo.

Pants: Just awful. Red pants???

Socks: Good.

Overall: My least favorite of the throwbacks so far this season.

Jomama
06-30-2019, 01:16 PM
Pick one.
I'll take Baez. In a insignificant part of the game.

I'll go with Rizzo by the first relief pitcher that sees him.

757690
06-30-2019, 01:16 PM
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NC Reds
06-30-2019, 01:17 PM
Well done Disco.

North
06-30-2019, 01:19 PM
OK, my evaluation of the 1936 uniforms:

Caps: Good.

Jerseys: OK. Would be better with the wishbone-C Reds logo.

Pants: Just awful. Red pants???

Socks: Good.

Overall: My least favorite of the throwbacks so far this season.

They look like bowling pins.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:22 PM
The 1936 Reds were 74-80, and finished fifth in the NL. The Reds were managed by Chuck Dressen.

On Tuesday, June 30, 1936, the Reds were off, though I suspect it might have been a rainout. On Monday, June 29 and Thursday, July 2, the Reds had home games vs. the Cubs, but 6/30 and 7/1 had no game.

The 6/29 lineup (a 4-3 win vs. the Cubs at Crosley Field):
Kiki Cuyler cf
Lew Riggs 3b
Ival Goodman rf
Les Scarsella 1b
Babe Herman lf
Gilly Campbell c
Billy Myers ss
Alex Kampouris 2b
Paul Derringer p

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:25 PM
They look like bowling pins.

I think they look like slo-pitch softball uniforms.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 01:26 PM
The 1936 Reds were 74-80, and finished fifth in the NL. The Reds were managed by Chuck Dressen.

On Tuesday, June 30, 1936, the Reds were off, though I suspect it might have been a rainout. On Monday, June 29 and Thursday, July 2, the Reds had home games vs. the Cubs, but 6/30 and 7/1 had no game.

The 6/29 lineup (a 4-3 win vs. the Cubs at Crosley Field):
Kiki Cuyler cf
Lew Riggs 3b
Ival Goodman rf
Les Scarsella 1b
Babe Herman lf
Gilly Campbell c
Billy Myers ss
Alex Kampouris 2b
Paul Derringer p

Stupid lineup. What was Dressen thinking?

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 01:26 PM
Middletown!!

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:26 PM
Well done Schwarber

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:27 PM
Atta boy Schwarber !!
Now, we must make them pay.

klw
06-30-2019, 01:27 PM
What was the error (for those of us not watching)?

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:28 PM
What was the error for those of us not watching
Schwarber had a Votto fly ball (not straight up in the air but not an especially tough catch either) clank off his glove

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:28 PM
Stupid lineup. What was Dressen thinking?

I think Ernie Lombardi might have been injured. He started on June 21, and didn't start again until July 2.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:30 PM
Geno!!! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs!

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:30 PM
Geno!!!

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 01:30 PM
Why did Senzel not make it to 3rd?

50YrRedsFan
06-30-2019, 01:30 PM
With Suarez struggling, I would have considered moving him down in the order.

MAYBE NOT!

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 01:31 PM
Wow. [emoji378]


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Red Raindog
06-30-2019, 01:31 PM
no Reds have made outs while wearing these uniforms --- coincidence?


dang - magic is broken

North
06-30-2019, 01:31 PM
Geno!!! :jump:

3-0 Redlegs!

They got their 3 runs. Is that gonna be all she wrote - again?

50YrRedsFan
06-30-2019, 01:32 PM
Why did Senzel not make it to 3rd?

held up expecting a catch

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 01:35 PM
First inning. Thom ready to go home.


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North
06-30-2019, 01:36 PM
First inning. Thom ready to go home.


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We can only hope.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:37 PM
held up expecting a catch

There was no chance. And with 0 out, you wouldn't risk any chance of make the out at 3rd.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:37 PM
Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has passed Frank McCormick for 23rd place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 277
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Eugenio Suarez - 111
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:38 PM
Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has passed Frank McCormick for 23rd place on the Reds'all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 277
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Eugenio Suarez - 111
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Closing in on the Mayor !

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 01:40 PM
held up expecting a catch

Yes, but he should have been more than halfway to 2nd when the ball was missed and rolled to the wall -- plenty of time to make it to 3rd. I figured he either was trying to tag up at 1st, or more likely, turned his head and retreated and missed seeing the non-catch.

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 01:42 PM
Addison Russell really doesn't deserve the toned down "domestic situation" euphemism that THom was using. That's a bad person.

WrongVerb
06-30-2019, 01:42 PM
It's fair to say Suarez slump is in the rear view mirror.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:46 PM
Addison Russell really doesn't deserve the toned down "domestic situation" euphemism that THom was using. That's a bad person.

But you can't talk badly about America's darlings, the Cubbies! You can only bad-mouth and criticize the Reds!

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 01:47 PM
It's fair to say Suarez slump is in the rear view mirror.

I hope, but one big swing doesn't mean a slump is over.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:49 PM
Casali not doing a whole lot at the plate since he was first anointed a time split and now full time catching duties.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 01:50 PM
Casali not doing a whole lot at the plate since he was first anointed a time split and now full time catching duties.

I thought this might have been a good day to see Farmer.

Kc61
06-30-2019, 01:51 PM
Reds are 12-24 in day games.

malcontent
06-30-2019, 01:51 PM
Cubs announcer said that Peraza '"has a reputation as a disciplined hitter"...just before he struck out on a head-high ball four.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 01:52 PM
Wonder when the lefty bugaboo strikes Disco.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 01:52 PM
Cubs announcer said that Peraza '"has a reputation as a disciplined hitter"...just before he struck out on a head-high ball four.

Is there another Peraza?

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:53 PM
Just realized that Lester has to weigh more than Schwarber.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 01:53 PM
Had he done much the week before the anointment. Maybe the anointment was made to give cover to Tucker who was already suffering from his oblique injury. Has anyone heard when the original injury occured?

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 01:54 PM
Casali not doing a whole lot at the plate since he was first anointed a time split and now full time catching duties.

My guess is that he will be overexposed. He is actually a quality #2 catcher, but I don't see him as a regular.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:55 PM
Had he done much the week before the anointment. Maybe the anointment was made to give cover to Tucker who was already suffering from his oblique injury. Has anyone heard when the original injury occured?

Swinging in the batting cages before Wednesday’s game versus the Los Angeles Angels, Cincinnati Reds catcher Tucker Barnhart felt pain on the right side of his body and immediately knew it was a serious injury.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2019/06/28/cincinnati-reds-tucker-barnhart-injury-taylor-trammell-futures-game-nick-travieso-mlb-baseball-nl-al/1597084001/


My guess is that he will be overexposed. He is actually a quality #2 catcher, but I don't see him as a regular.
Agreed.

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Well, this isn't what you want. Two out single by Schwarber and now a double by Bryant.

Now Rizzo...the dangerous lefty against DeSclafani.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 01:56 PM
Peraza is a trainwreck.


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757690
06-30-2019, 01:57 PM
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Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:57 PM
nm

malcontent
06-30-2019, 01:57 PM
Did Peraza play that throw wrong?

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 01:58 PM
Fan interference !!!

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:58 PM
Cubbies are going to go nuts if this is ruled an out..

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 01:58 PM
Phil Ervin has the shortest bill Iíve ever seen on a baseball hat before.


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JFLegal
06-30-2019, 01:58 PM
reverse bartman?

757690
06-30-2019, 01:59 PM
Bartman all over again ;)

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 01:59 PM
Out!

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 01:59 PM
Let it begin !!!!

JFLegal
06-30-2019, 02:00 PM
boom! the kid did his job. ervin might have caught it, but the kid reaching over and interfering got the job done!

reverse bartman is real.

InsaneinthBrame
06-30-2019, 02:00 PM
Love it

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 02:00 PM
On the topic of catcher, I think Tyler Stephenson needs to be introduced to AAA for the remainder of the year. He turns 23 in August. Put him in the 2020 mix.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 02:00 PM
Did Peraza play that throw wrong?

Yep. Another Red brainfart..

Red Raindog
06-30-2019, 02:00 PM
Cubbies are going to go nuts if this is ruled an out..

crocodile tears here

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 02:01 PM
Shut up Rizzo

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:01 PM
Maddon and Rizzo should be ejected. The rule states that you are not allowed to argue replay rulings. I remember Bryan Price being ejected for doing exactly that.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:01 PM
I'm like 90% sure Rizzo was gonna hit a game tying 3 run bomb there, so that worked out well.

JFLegal
06-30-2019, 02:01 PM
even jerky! (said with mouth full, and laughing at a bad joke from wife)

Saven
06-30-2019, 02:01 PM
Rizzo and Maddon right now:

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JFLegal
06-30-2019, 02:02 PM
Maddon and Rizzo should be ejected. The rule states that you are not allowed to argue replay rulings. I remember Bryan Price being ejected for doing exactly that.

i was thinking the same thing. did they change that rule or something? probably more like the cubs getting special treatment.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:02 PM
boom! the kid did his job. ervin might have caught it, but the kid reaching over and interfering got the job done!

reverse bartman is real.

Namtrab!

North
06-30-2019, 02:04 PM
No complaints about bad luck will be allowed today.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:04 PM
THom with another instance of backhandedly saying that a guy is fat. "That guy looks like he should be a left tackle for the Badgers!"

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:04 PM
I thought this might have been a good day to see Farmer.

I wouldn't mind if Farmer "Wally Pipped" our catchers.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:05 PM
Lester rolling now

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:05 PM
Did Votto tweak his back again?

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:09 PM
On the topic of catcher, I think Tyler Stephenson needs to be introduced to AAA for the remainder of the year. He turns 23 in August. Put him in the 2020 mix.

I wouldn't make that move. But I would not throw a fit if it happened.

malcontent
06-30-2019, 02:11 PM
Did Votto tweak his back again?
Es imposible saber.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:13 PM
Rare misplay by Puig, catchable ball. Hope it doesn't haunt...

nope, next pitch out to end the frame.

JFLegal
06-30-2019, 02:13 PM
THom with another instance of backhandedly saying that a guy is fat. "That guy looks like he should be a left tackle for the Badgers!"

poor 5-foot-3 thom was probably picked on by a lot of fat kids. maybe still is?

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 02:13 PM
Good Disco makes an appearance today. Need to tack on some runs now.

JFLegal
06-30-2019, 02:15 PM
Rare misplay by Puig, catchable ball. Hope it doesn't haunt...

nope, next pitch out to end the frame.

man, i don't know about that. i thought so at first too. then i watched the replay and it fell further in front of him than i initially thought. i hear you though, he could have got a better jump on it for sure. but once he didn't get a good jump, he made the right decision in pulling up (and i'm not just saying that because the next guy flew out).

malcontent
06-30-2019, 02:16 PM
All-World Disco has risen.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:16 PM
One other comment on today's throwbacks:

I'm starting to really like the white cap with the red bill. I wouldn't mind seeing it as an alternate home cap in the future (and maybe a gray version as an alternate road cap.)

Also, I like the plain block number font on the backs of the jerseys. Much better than the "riverboat font" on the regular jerseys. (I guess that's two comments.)

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:16 PM
man, i don't know about that. i thought so at first too. then i watched the replay and it fell further in front of him than i initially thought. i hear you though, he could have got a better jump on it for sure. but once he didn't get a good jump, he made the right decision in pulling up (and i'm not just saying that because the next guy flew out).
Yeah ultimately just standing there was some very good damage avoidance, but I think he either missed it off the bat or lost it because it seemed he only need a few steps to have caught it.

Kc61
06-30-2019, 02:18 PM
All due respect to Jose Iglesias, if he’s hitting fifth against lefties, Reds are short a RHH.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 02:19 PM
IMO, Dietrich in the HR derby would be a real hard sell. Thom trying on hometown/family sentiment.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 02:22 PM
This is a very Reds game right now.

Kingspoint
06-30-2019, 02:22 PM
Just saw Suarez's Homer.

I"d say he's healthy and the rest of the NL better watch out.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 02:24 PM
Disco usually has problems in the 5th and 6th.
We'll see today.
Only 45 pitches entering the 5th is a big change for him.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:24 PM
This is a very Reds game right now.
At least you can understand Lester getting back to form, it's more frustrating when it's those rookies or other jabronis who start mowing them down after giving up a few runs.

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Nice hustle by Lester on the ground out

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:25 PM
All due respect to Jose Iglesias, if heís hitting fifth against lefties, Reds are short a RHH.

I think he should be batting 2nd, with Votto, Suarez, and Puig each sliding down one spot in the order.

NCReds
06-30-2019, 02:25 PM
This is a very Reds game right now.

Agreed. The ol score in the first inning and then go ice cold for a little while. But as long as those 3 runs are enough itís whatever I guess


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JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:31 PM
Peraza, working on his patience, saw 2 pitches that time.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:31 PM
A hit!

*DJ Khaled voice* another one

North
06-30-2019, 02:33 PM
At least you can understand Lester getting back to form, it's more frustrating when it's those rookies or other jabronis who start mowing them down after giving up a few runs.

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Nice hustle by Lester on the ground out

Good vocabulary! I haven't seen the word jabroni used in quite a while. :laugh:

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 02:34 PM
A hit!

*DJ Khaled voice* another one

What do we have here??? :thumbup:

PepperJack
06-30-2019, 02:34 PM
Is Cowboy right about Disco not usually on the 3rd base side of the rubber? I have not paid attention in prior starts.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:37 PM
Not gonna do much with that pitch, can't tell if Votto's mad it was called a strike or that he didn't foul it off.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 02:37 PM
Trying to eke a walk. Again. It's amazing how many backward Ks he's got this year.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 02:38 PM
Can't complain Votto.
Too close to take.
Wish he would just take a full swing at the ball more.
He seems to be looking for a walk more than stinging the ball.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 02:40 PM
Can't complain Votto.
Too close to take.
Wish he would just take a full swing at the ball more.
He seems to be looking for a walk more than stinging the ball.

He used to spoil those like he was toying with pitchers. I know age gets the best of everyone eventually, but would at least like to see him give himself a chance instead of getting rung up.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:43 PM
2 outs in the 6th with Rizzo on second and Heyward up.

North
06-30-2019, 02:44 PM
Thom's wish for a base hit for the Cubs was thwarted by Senzel.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:45 PM
Disco seems to agree with my view that Heyward was a real threat there, though that 3-0 pitch looked like a strike.

Now the righty David Bote represents the two out tying run.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:47 PM
Thom's wish for a base hit for the Cubs was thwarted by Senzel.

I miss George Grande.

Jomama
06-30-2019, 02:48 PM
Disco looking tired.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:48 PM
Need this out badly..

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 02:49 PM
97 up to get a zero in the 6th!

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 02:49 PM
Got it !!

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:51 PM
Very nicely done there

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 02:51 PM
Disco Inferno!

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_l/public/photo/image/2013/07/01_WCW_LIB_00151.jpg

RedlegsFanatic
06-30-2019, 02:51 PM
Nice to see Disco in mid-season form!
If we had im pitching like this most of the season the Reds would be in a Wild Card Playoff race..
Who knows what the 2nd half may bring???

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Could you imagine if the Cubs traded for Bumgarner?
Would you ever want to win a game 20-0 more?

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:54 PM
well that sucks, don't see a guy over slide like that very much...

Jomama
06-30-2019, 02:54 PM
Bad base-running, not bad luck.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 02:55 PM
That kind of bounce in the corner is why there are triples to LF when they go dead!

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 02:55 PM
And another base running gift to the opponent.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 02:55 PM
This team and its baserunning...Holy excrement

InsaneinthBrame
06-30-2019, 02:58 PM
Disco has been either really good or bad this year. Of his 16 starts 8 of them he has given up 1 run or less if you include today. Twice given up 6, 4 times 4ER and twice 3ER

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 02:58 PM
Nice AB by Puig, draws a walk

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 02:59 PM
Bad base-running, not bad luck.

Yes, as soon as he saw the powerful bounce out of the corner fielded cleanly, should have gone back to 1st. The desire for an EBH was too strong a temptation from prudence as a lead-off hitter.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 02:59 PM
Those are the at-bats Puig didn’t have in the season’s first two months.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:01 PM
Thom :laugh:

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:01 PM
Yes, as soon as he saw the powerful bounce out of the corner fielded cleanly, should have gone back to 1st. The desire for an EBH was too strong a temptation from prudence as a lead-off hitter.
But he was safe, the momentum just took him too far off the bag. That was the 'bad 'part, I don't know why one would argue that going for two was a mistake.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:01 PM
Descalso not nearly the tagger that Baez is!

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:04 PM
4-0 Redlegs on an Ervin bloop single!

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:04 PM
Feeling like this 4th run could end up being huge.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:05 PM
My boy Philly!!

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:05 PM
4-0 Redlegs on an Ervin bloop single!

Puig's stolen base comes up huge!

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:06 PM
But he was safe, the momentum just took him too far off the bag. That was the 'bad 'part, I don't know why one would argue that going for two was a mistake.

Momentum took him off, but the forced contortion to avoid the tag caused the momentum to take him off, rather than any bad base-running other than the decision to go.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:06 PM
Pinch hitter for Peraza.
Dietrich?

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:07 PM
I'd probably have used Scooter as a PH here

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:08 PM
Momentum took him off, but the forced contortion to avoid the tag caused the momentum to take him off, rather than any bad base-running other than the decision to go.

Pro ballplayers should execute those slides in their sleep

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:08 PM
I'd probably have used Scooter as a PH here

Bell decided to let Peraza hit.

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 03:09 PM
That hurt to watch.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:09 PM
Disco pulled?
Maybe too early with 73 pitches.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 03:10 PM
I'm ok with this. If Winker gets a hit he can break it open.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:10 PM
It’s a good call

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:11 PM
Disco pulled?
Maybe too early with 73 pitches.
In think in that spot you have to try and go for more runs. Also Disco hasn't been known for pitching great deep in games.

Winker grounds out though, bullpen game the rest of the way.

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:11 PM
OK, my evaluation of the 1936 uniforms:

Caps: Good.

Jerseys: OK. Would be better with the wishbone-C Reds logo.

Pants: Just awful. Red pants???

Socks: Good.

Overall: My least favorite of the throwbacks so far this season.

Players hated them, they only wore them 5 or 6 times

https://redlegnation.com/2019/06/30/cincinnati-reds-150-throwback-uniforms-1936-edition/

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 03:11 PM
Yeah I have no problem with taking Disco out. History suggests bad things were coming.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:11 PM
Disco = Not happy

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:12 PM
I'm ok with this. If Winker gets a hit he can break it open.

Yeh, I guess. Hot day too.
Hopefully the bullpen has their stuff today.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:13 PM
Disco = Not happy
Disco can deal with it.

Bell going to the closer in the 7th ;)

Wonderful Monds
06-30-2019, 03:13 PM
I think he should be batting 2nd, with Votto, Suarez, and Puig each sliding down one spot in the order.

Why? Heís not a good hitter and his numbers are already trending way back to his career norms.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:13 PM
I'm ok with this. If Winker gets a hit he can break it open.

Yes, and Disco got thru his high leverage inning last inning and historically goes bad quickly -- good move even though Winker made the last out.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:14 PM
Looks like Lorenzen, Garrett, and Iglasias to nail it down.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:14 PM
leadoff double, it begins...

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:15 PM
THom stirring up "closer controversy".

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:15 PM
Disco can deal with it.

Bell going to the closer in the 7th ;)

I don't think Lorenzen is going to close this one.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:18 PM
Lorenzen with a great play to make that a comebacker out!

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:19 PM
Why? Heís not a good hitter and his numbers are already trending way back to his career norms.

Mainly because I don't want him batting 5th. It reminds me when Pete Rose would hit Dave Concepcion in the 5th spot in the mid-80's.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:20 PM
Double switcher works out for the Cubs.

JCM11
06-30-2019, 03:21 PM
Looks like Bell has made his new worst decision as a manager by taking Disco out.

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:21 PM
So much for the controversy

DocRed
06-30-2019, 03:21 PM
Lorenzen lmfao....


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BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:22 PM
David Bell = F-

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 03:22 PM
Hard to believe that went out..

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:22 PM
Lorenzen right down broadway to Schwarber on the first pitch.
Not focused.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:22 PM
Lorenzen catches too much of the plate, 4-3 game.

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:22 PM
Looks like Bell has made his new worst decision as a manager by taking Disco out.

Yes, he threw those pitches too

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:23 PM
Never know what your are going to get out of the Reds bullpen.

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Lorenzen aint' got it today.

PuffyPig
06-30-2019, 03:24 PM
Disco had a much better chance of exploding in the 7th than Lorenzo did IMO.

I'm just basing that on historical averages and what we've seen this year.

DocRed
06-30-2019, 03:24 PM
Bell being Bell...what else is new?


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Wonderful Monds
06-30-2019, 03:24 PM
Mainly because I don't want him batting 5th. It reminds me when Pete Rose would hit Dave Concepcion in the 5th spot in the mid-80's.

Yeah don’t get me wrong he definitely shouldn’t be batting 5th, he just shouldn’t be hitting higher than 7th in general.

InsaneinthBrame
06-30-2019, 03:25 PM
Should have brought in Garrett a batter sooner,

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:25 PM
Looks like Bell has made his new worst decision as a manager by taking Disco out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
Lorenzen was super last time out.

coryfly
06-30-2019, 03:25 PM
Disco had a much better chance of exploding in the 7th than Lorenzo did IMO.

I'm just basing that on historical averages and what we've seen this year.



I just would have preferred leaving him in until a runner gets on board. Then go to the bullpen. That seemed logical with the pitch count where it was considering how he was pitching.

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:25 PM
73 pitches and cruising. I dont care who the pitcher is you dont take him out. Obviously the pen should have been able to hold it but it just seems like whatever Bell does backfires

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:26 PM
A terrible throw from LF! Lorenzen with an.800 on base average for his stint.

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:26 PM
I love how Bell gets all the heat for a piss poor pitching performance.


If Disco stayed in and shat his pants I'm sure y'all would be saying the same thing about Bell that you are now.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:26 PM
Another one Rizzo didn't want to get hit by!

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:27 PM
The only thing that can save us from David Bell...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y_6fZGSOQI

DocRed
06-30-2019, 03:27 PM
Disco had a much better chance of exploding in the 7th than Lorenzo did IMO.

I'm just basing that on historical averages and what we've seen this year.

Sure but Dusco gets pulled as soon as a runner or 2 gets on base and he was only at 73 pitches. For some reason you leave Lorenzen in until he goes Chernobyl though.


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Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:27 PM
Yeah don’t get me wrong he definitely shouldn’t be batting 5th, he just shouldn’t be hitting higher than 7th in general.

I agree, but they currently have plenty of guys to fill the bottom third of the lineup. With who they currently have, Jose Iglesias in the #2 spot makes more sense vs. LHP. (Unless you want to bump Casali up to 6th.)

JCM11
06-30-2019, 03:28 PM
Hindsight is 20/20.
Lorenzen was super last time out.

Disco was super today.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:28 PM
And the second guessers all come out to complain.

PuffyPig
06-30-2019, 03:28 PM
73 pitches and cruising. I dont care who the pitcher is you dont take him out. Obviously the pen should have been able to hold it but it just seems like whatever Bell does backfires

Well, the bullpen had had the best ERA in the NL this year, so Bell must have made some calls regarding the bullpen correctly.

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 03:30 PM
Sit down Contreras

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:30 PM
I just would have preferred leaving him in until a runner gets on board. Then go to the bullpen. That seemed logical with the pitch count where it was considering how he was pitching.

I would have done it that way too, had the offensive pinch hitting opportunity presented itself. Now if Suarez wouldn't have got thrown out at 2nd it would have worked out a whole lot differently.

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:30 PM
Well, the bullpen had had the best ERA in the NL this year, so Bell must have made some calls regarding the bullpen correctly.

That's fair. The last 2 days obviously haven't been great. I'm not saying it's his fault. It's on the pitchers clearly but I did not like his choice today at all. Still on Lorenzen but a nice job by Garrett to hold the lead.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:30 PM
We've got a really good break twice today. :thumbup:

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:31 PM
Disco was super today.

3rd time through the order - .311/.385/.556/.940
75th pitch on - .279/.340/.535/.875

JFLegal
06-30-2019, 03:31 PM
is that play not reviewable? that is awesome. reds got a break there. it did barely hit his foot. lol.

Roy Tucker
06-30-2019, 03:33 PM
Call me old fashioned, but I love they do God Bless America at a Sunday afternoon ballgame.

coryfly
06-30-2019, 03:33 PM
Well, the bullpen had had the best ERA in the NL this year, so Bell must have made some calls regarding the bullpen correctly.


Without a doubt he has. He has made some great calls regarding the bullpen. I just personally feel you leave a guy in who has been successful against this particular lineup on this particular day until he gives up a baserunner. Just an opinion though.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:33 PM
Stick with Garrett in the ninth?
I think I would.
Heyward up first.

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:34 PM
Call me old fashioned, but I love they do God Bless America at a Sunday afternoon ballgame.

They have only been doing it since 2001 though, so that's not too old

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
THom wanted to walk Contreras so that Amir could face Heyward.

What he fails to consider is that Maddon probably pinch-hits Baez for Heyward in that case.

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
John Wick is a pitcher now? Look out

coryfly
06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
Stick with Garrett in the ninth?
I think I would.
Heyward up first.

I would stick with him in the 8th.

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
Stick with Garrett in the ninth?
I think I would.
Heyward up first.

I'd go with Garrett and would not remove him unless someone reaches base.

757690
06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
See, Bell was correct. He needs to pinch hit for Disco because they were going to need more runs.

Hillsdale87
06-30-2019, 03:36 PM
That's fair. The last 2 days obviously haven't been great. I'm not saying it's his fault. It's on the pitchers clearly but I did not like his choice today at all. Still on Lorenzen but a nice job by Garrett to hold the lead.

You're not always going to be rewarded with great results from correct decision making. But that works itself out over the course of the season, and the numbers would.indocate that Bell is largely making good decisions on bullpen. He used the same logic today, but it obviously blew up.

That said, it's not like he just took Desclafani out for no reason. He removed him for a pinch hitter in an RBI situation with the chance to pad the lead. I'm sure the win expectancy with Winker at the plate goes up, especially when you consider that the Reds bullpen has been so good


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BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:36 PM
Stick with Garrett in the ninth?
I think I would.
Heyward up first.

Absolutely.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:36 PM
Heyward AGAIN robs Senzel, jesus

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:37 PM
Dam !

coryfly
06-30-2019, 03:37 PM
Heyward has killed Senzel this series.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:37 PM
Gotta be effing kidding me.

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:37 PM
I hate Heyward so much. Make the bad man stop!

westofyou
06-30-2019, 03:38 PM
Heyward AGAIN robs Senzel, jesus

He's having a fine glove series for sure

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:39 PM
Well it's definitely Cubs momentum right now.

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:39 PM
I would stick with him in the 8th.

Ok. 8th inning. I wish it was the 9th!:)

Tadasimha
06-30-2019, 03:39 PM
Finally tuning in - love the throwback unis

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:40 PM
It's most likely coming down to Raisel today

Roy Tucker
06-30-2019, 03:40 PM
I wouldn’t say Heyward robbed him. It was a catchable ball.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:41 PM
Buckle up. These are going to be six of the hardest outs ever.

WVRedsFan
06-30-2019, 03:41 PM
Got here in time to see Lorenzen being Lorenzen (you never know what you'll get). Listened on radio, and was having a great time. Too bad the Reds are now setup to blow this game. Let's score some runs!

PuffyPig
06-30-2019, 03:43 PM
Disco was super today.

Well, he started the last game with 6 straight K's before suddenly exploding.

There is nothing wrong with getting Disco out earlier rather than later. Plus, it gave Winker a chance at more runs.

The actual result doesn't change the fact that it wasn't a horrible call, and one that many managers would have made.

coryfly
06-30-2019, 03:44 PM
Ok. 8th inning. I wish it was the 9th!:)

Don't we all, haha.

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:44 PM
Looked like a strike but another crucial lead off walk given up by this pen

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:44 PM
Man, this team loves to blow ballgames.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:44 PM
I'd go with Garrett and would not remove him unless someone reaches base.

Exactly! Unfortunately, he walked the one guy he was most important for. Shades of Bray, Bill that is!

PuffyPig
06-30-2019, 03:45 PM
I wouldn’t say Heyward robbed him. It was a catchable ball.

Well, every ball that gets caught is a "catchable" ball, otherwise it couldn't get caught.

But not every RF likely catches that ball.

But to be, the disappointing part was how close it was to not being "catchable".

Roy Tucker
06-30-2019, 03:45 PM
Amir, buddy, pal, old friend, you are in the game to get those guys out.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:46 PM
I wouldnít say Heyward robbed him. It was a catchable ball.

It was more catchable than he made it look! Got turned wrong and made a nice recovery.

gagliano
06-30-2019, 03:46 PM
Stick with Garrett in the ninth?
I think I would.
Heyward up first.

alas, yes. but no. disaster awaits.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:47 PM
Iglesias hangs first pitch to Baez. Gets away with it (for now).

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Nasty pitch for the K. Filth.

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:49 PM
Well, every ball that gets caught is a "catchable" ball, otherwise it couldn't get caught.

But not every RF likely catches that ball.

But to be, the disappointing part was how close it was to not being "catchable".

Jay Bruce comes to mind.

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 03:49 PM
Raisel abused Russell. Need one more.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:50 PM
Vintage Demon's Head for first two outs.

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:50 PM
If he nails this down with 6 tight outs, get on the horn and take some offers.

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 03:51 PM
alas, yes. but no. disaster awaits.

Save situation, but not 9th inning. Will Raisel succeed?

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JCM11
06-30-2019, 03:51 PM
You just can't do that.

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:53 PM
If he nails this down with 6 tight outs, get on the horn and take some offers.

Area code 617

NC Reds
06-30-2019, 03:55 PM
That was huge

bigfoot52
06-30-2019, 03:56 PM
Atta boy Casali.
Way to hang in there after that passed ball.
Big out!

BluegrassRedleg
06-30-2019, 03:56 PM
E-X-H-A-L-E

TheBigLebowski
06-30-2019, 03:56 PM
Phew

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 03:56 PM
Halfway there for Raisel. Would be big to get some insurance here.

Tom Servo
06-30-2019, 03:57 PM
Friendship ended with Michael Lorenzen, now Raisel Iglesias is my best friend

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 03:57 PM
Got all 3 right handed hitters out. The 9th will be tougher!

JaxRed
06-30-2019, 03:58 PM
Got all 3 right handed hitters out. The 9th will be tougher!

Send in Duke for those lefties? :D

ochoa30
06-30-2019, 04:00 PM
Would love a Puig bomb right here

Big Klu
06-30-2019, 04:02 PM
Friendship ended with Michael Lorenzen, now Raisel Iglesias is my best friend

Are you a 7th grade girl? lol

mhs95_06
06-30-2019, 04:02 PM
Send in Duke for those lefties? :D

Duke can walk the two righties and get Schwarber, Rizzo, and Heyward out for the win?