Brewers @ Reds 7-4-19

[Ron Madden]

Reds
Winker LF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Puig RF
Dietrich 2B
Senzel CF
Peraza SS
Castillo P
Casali C

Brewers
Grandal C
Yelich RF
Moustakas 3B
Hiura 2B
Thames 1B
Saladino LF
Gamel CF
Arica SS
Woodruff P

[Big Klu]

I must once again voice my disapproval of the pitcher batting 8th.

Why is it being done some days and not others? What is the logic behind it?

[JCM11]

I must once again voice my disapproval of the pitcher batting 8th.

Why is it being done some days and not others? What is the logic behind it?

It might make some sense if you had Casali 7th and Peraza 9th.

[Big Klu]

It might make some sense if you had Casali 7th and Peraza 9th.

I don't like it even then.

[Rolando]

I don't like it even then.

Just out of curiosity why is that? I totally agree it makes no sense for the catcher to bat 9th

[GADawg]

I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t throw anything juicy to Senzel considering what’s behind him....Casali could’ve provided at least a little protection

[RR1971]

I don’t know why they continue to start Peraza. We have to go on a run at some point to move up in the standings and we keep running him out there and sitting better players. We have an off day tomorrow, then two games and then the all star break. I would think professional athletes could play through that without needing a game off. It’s not like we’re at the tail end of 22 straight games in August. We need to play the best lineup now because the buy/sell decision will have to be made in the next few weeks.

[texasdave]

Normally, I wouldn't break into the game thread with minor league stuff. But this is unbelievable. The DSL-Reds' pitchers walked the first EIGHT batters that came to the plate in the top of the 6th. :laugh::eek:

[North]

I must once again voice my disapproval of the pitcher batting 8th.

Why is it being done some days and not others? What is the logic behind it?

The manager spent time in Roswell, New Mexico. Enough said.

[64red]

I must once again voice my disapproval of the pitcher batting 8th.

Why is it being done some days and not others? What is the logic behind it?

Since statistically the number 8 hole will come up more than the nine, Bell is doing it to enhance his opportunities to make double switches. This will intimidate the opposition, seeing that they are truly not on the same level strategically speaking.
If he did it every day, other teams might catch on and do it too. By the time they have figured out what’s going on, the Reds will already have won the pennant.
I don’t know. Doesn’t make since to me either.

[malcontent]

With zero LHP available today against the LHH-heavy Brewers lineup, I look forward to the day when the Reds actually have a LHP or three that they drafted ready to contribute in Cincinnati.

Garrett (round 22) has been one of only a handful that Buckley drafted in the past 20 or so years. Thank God he's no longer in charge of the draft.

LHPs Moss (round 4) and Naughton (round 9) have performed decently so far, and appear to be immune to whatever disease has laid waste to most every other (RHP) pitcher in the minors.

[Ironman92]

Today’s Toyota Fan of the Game is my buddy from where i teach. I’ve had all 3 of his kids. He tragically lost his 46 year old wife of cancer not long ago....root for a HR to hit that Toyota sign!

[Tom Servo]

With zero LHP available today against the LHH-heavy Brewers lineup, I look forward to the day when the Reds actually have a LHP or three that they drafted ready to contribute in Cincinnati.

Garrett (round 22) has been one of only a handful that Buckley drafted in the past 20 or so years. Thank God he's no longer in charge of the draft.

LHPs Moss (round 4) and Naughton (round 9) have performed decently so far, and appear to be immune to whatever disease has laid waste to most every other (RHP) pitcher in the minors.
Not too much you can do when 3 of your lefties hit the DL. If every team had a reserve LHP they could call up to pitch effectively bullpens around the league would probably be performing better.

[Big Klu]

Just out of curiosity why is that? I totally agree it makes no sense for the catcher to bat 9th

The worst hitter should bat 9th, as that spot in the order comes to the plate less often than any other. As bad as Peraza (or prior to this year, Hamilton) might be, he is still a better hitter than the pitcher.

[North]

Today’s Toyota Fan of the Game is my buddy from where i teach. I’ve had all 3 of his kids. He tragically lost his 46 year old wife of cancer not long ago....root for a HR to hit that Toyota sign!

Will do.

[757690]

If they played according to George Carlin’s baseball rules, Castillo would have had a three pitch 1-2-3 inning.

[CrackerJack]

Seems like anyone can run on Casali, I think I could steal a base on him

[Shoeless Jeff]

Nice pitch count in the first inning!

[mamell]

Normally, I wouldn't break into the game thread with minor league stuff. But this is unbelievable. The DSL-Reds' pitchers walked the first EIGHT batters that came to the plate in the top of the 6th. :laugh::eek:

But didn't hit 8 straight...right?

[Big Klu]

Votto with a cheap single, but no RBI.

#notelite

[mamell]

Nice time for a 3-0 lead..

[bigfoot52]

No question strike three.

[Tom Servo]

No question strike three.
I question it.

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Lady luck finally going Puig's way, infield RBI single!

1-0 Redlegs

[bagz]

Nice break

[Reds Fanatic]

1-0 Reds on a Puig infield hit

[bigfoot52]

I question it.

OK.:)

[BluegrassRedleg]

Puig is livin’ right.


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[Tom Servo]

Chris has to be annoyed at this point needing to repeatedly point out to Thom that Votto is not gonna be scoring from 2nd on anything besides a ball in the gap or HR.

[bagz]

DD comes through

[Tom Servo]

damn, Senzel GIDP

[mamell]

Well that was rotten.. I hope Woodruff doesn't settle in now.. Rattle his cage Redlegs!

[TheBigLebowski]

Freaking Senzel.

[Hillsdale87]

I believe the reds lead the majors in DP with the bases loaded


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[mamell]

Castillo's splits in day games aren't nearly as good as night games, but hopefully today is different. 0-3 in day games 3.76 era.. 1.65 at night..

Now striking out the side early is sweet.. Keep it up Luis!

[Ironman92]

Freaking Senzel.

Winter/Votto/Puig all pushing near .800

Edit: don’t know why I quoted? [emoji2371]

[mamell]

Not much from the bottom of the lineup.. Back to the top of it next inning which should fare a bit better if they can keep tormenting Woodruff..

[mamell]

T2T..Time 2 torment time.. and be redundant in the same sentence..

[Ironman92]

I have no issue with Peraza getting starts. I know he’s struggled pretty good and everyone needs a day off now and then......but I hate when Iglesias isn’t in there.

[757690]

Thom going all political, attacking Nike and defending the flag.

[OGB]

Yaaay
Thom with some ignorant political commentary!
The hits just keep coming!

[Ironman92]

Winker up to .254 and .802

[Tom Servo]

Votto crushed that, drat

[Tom Servo]

The lefties are doing well against Woodruff, not so much the righties.

[mamell]

How about another quick 123 by LC?

[Tom Servo]

How about another quick 123 by LC?
Almost...catches Hiura on the elbow

[Wonderful Monds]

If a ball is hit to center field it’s not straight up in the air

[Tom Servo]

Luis said it wasn't the mound at Miller Park but clearly something is different between facing the Brewers there and facing them at GABP.

Maybe they're up to some nefarious activities there in Milwaukee (thinking emoji)

[Ironman92]

If a ball is hit to center field it’s not straight up in the air

If it’s under 392 ft it is

[Tom Servo]

Thom disgusted there was no hit and run, and a popup instead.

[malcontent]

pitcher bats 8th strikes again

[BluegrassRedleg]

It’s hard to watch Peraza of late.


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[malcontent]

It’s hard to watch Peraza of late.
Peraza 2016: 256 PA: 78 H
Peraza 2019: 240 PA: 48 H

I view finding a replacement as a priority.

[Tom Servo]

Now that was a fast inning for Castillo

Give the man some more run support

[malcontent]

Casali battling the OPS monster within.

[UKWhoDey]

Seems like Jesse always hits into a defender with 2 outs, and comes up with a hit with 0 or 1 out lol

[JFLegal]

votto loafs more than any player i've ever seen. that even includes griffey jr.

[JCM11]

Joey would be on first if he ran that out.

[JFLegal]

Joey would be on first if he ran that out.

yes, and any other player would be getting crushed if they did that. but votto is 'untouchable' for some.

[Tom Servo]

yes, and any other player would be getting crushed if they did that. but votto is 'untouchable' for some.
Went to throw my laundry in the dryer, I’ll take your word for it. Bad, Joey! Do better.

[Big Klu]

Chris just dunked over THom.

THom: "So Chris, will you wear the T-shirt this weekend?"

Chris: "Well, as you're the self-annointed Director of Programming, I'll do whatever you decide."

THom: "Self-annointed?! SELF-ANNOINTED?!"

Chris: "What, did somebody give you that title?"

THom: "No..."

Chris: "Well, then..."

[JFLegal]

Went to throw my laundry in the dryer, I’ll take your word for it. Bad, Joey! Do better.

my laundry has been washed and is still in the dryer. i'll probably get the clothes out in two days or so.

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Chris just dunked over THom.

THom: "So Chris, will you wear the T-shirt this weekend?"

Chris: "Well, as you're the self-annointed Director of Programming, I'll do whatever you decide."

THom: "Self-annointed?! SELF-ANNOINTED?!"

Chris: "What, did somebody give you that title?"

THom: "No..."

Chris: "Well, then..."

like jordan jumping from the free throw line dunk, with little thom looking up like 'please don't hurt me.'

[Ironman92]

Went to throw my laundry in the dryer, I’ll take your word for it. Bad, Joey! Do better.

He eased up last 3-4 steps. Replay didn’t look very good for him.

[malcontent]

Do not walk Grandal.

[Ironman92]

votto loafs more than any player i've ever seen. that even includes griffey jr.

That’s silly.

[Wonderful Monds]

votto loafs more than any player i've ever seen. that even includes griffey jr.

lmao

[JFLegal]

That’s silly.

i'm not being sarcastic my friend. votto loafs a hell of a lot.

[WrongVerb]

Joey would be on first if he ran that out.

Brewers broadcasters referenced Joey's back issues for why he wasn't running hard.

[JCM11]

9 to go for a no no.

[Wonderful Monds]

Thom trying to jinx Castillo in a variety of ways.

[Ironman92]

Votto home to 1st 4.88 [emoji15] from the left side

[JCM11]

Brewers broadcasters referenced Joey's back issues for why he wasn't running hard.

He ran hard about 60% of the way then let up. If he ran it out he would've beat the high throw.

A few insurance runs would be nice to take some pressure off Castillo.

[JFLegal]

Votto home to 1st 4.88 [emoji15] from the left side

that's silly. ;)

[Tom Servo]

9 to go for a no no.
Legitimately did not even notice lol

[Ironman92]

i'm not being sarcastic my friend. votto loafs a hell of a lot.

I guess you haven’t watched many players

[WrongVerb]

He ran hard about 60% of the way then let up. If he ran it out he would've beat the high throw.

I don't disagree. But it's also excusable if his back is causing problems.

[JFLegal]

everyone just shut the hell up about anything pitching related. we're talking about votto loafing. stay focused. :)

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I guess you haven’t watched many players

oh, c'mon. give me one player who loafs more than votto.

[malcontent]

Time for Dietrich to step up.

[JCM11]

I don't disagree. But it's also excusable if his back is causing problems.

It's possible this would've been an off day for Joey if Scooter hadn't had to leave the game last night.

[JFLegal]

He ran hard about 60% of the way then let up. If he ran it out he would've beat the high throw.

A few insurance runs would be nice to take some pressure off Castillo.

and again, any other player who did that would be getting crushed by fans/media. votto gets a pass every time.

[Ironman92]

that's silly. ;)

Silly slow from left side and stopwatch timed

[757690]

and again, any other player who did that would be getting crushed by fans/media. votto gets a pass every time.

Tbh, he deserves it, as do all franchise players.

[Ironman92]

everyone just shut the hell up about anything pitching related. we're talking about votto loafing. stay focused. :)

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oh, c'mon. give me one player who loafs more than votto.

Miguel Cabrera

[JFLegal]

Silly slow from left side and stopwatch timed

that's what happens when you loaf. ;)

[JCM11]

Senzel with another rocket for an out.

[JFLegal]

Miguel Cabrera

i thankfully do not watch many tigers games any longer, but i believe you. but as you know, he's basically just a DH now. how many NL players loaf as much as votto? i'm sure we can agree it's an extremely short list.

[Ironman92]

i thankfully do not watch many tigers games any longer, but i believe you. but as you know, he's basically just a DH now. how many NL players loaf as much as votto? i'm sure we can agree it's an extremely short list.

Robinson Cano

[JFLegal]

Robinson Cano

so just one?

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i blame thom. he kept bringing it up.

[JCM11]

Welp let's get a W on a 1 hitter.

[TheBigLebowski]

Crap

[JFLegal]

i don't think thom knows what 'straight up in the air' means.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Straight up in the air. [emoji23]


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[KittyDuran]

Sprinkling rain on the east side but should be able to finish game. [emoji120]


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[JFLegal]

Straight up in the air. [emoji23]


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that was like reverse-thom. he thought a ball that almost left the park was an infield flyout. my goodness he is bad in all facets.

[Ironman92]

i thankfully do not watch many tigers games any longer, but i believe you. but as you know, he's basically just a DH now. how many NL players loaf as much as votto? i'm sure we can agree it's an extremely short list.

I don’t see a lot of loafing....I definitely didn’t like him letting up and costing himself a hit and Reds a baserunner. I’m more bothered that he is often caught off guard on line drives and balls off bat as to where infielders and OF are positioned and he gets horrible first steps after his secondary leads, which are bad. I’ve said many times he’s the worst baserunning superstar I can think of.

[JCM11]

7 shutout innings and counting.

[Wonderful Monds]

Imagine thinking “America is stronger now than ever before” lol thank you Thom

[malcontent]

Jeezus, what a change in the pitching department for this team.

[JCM11]

Imagine thinking “America is stronger now than ever before” lol thank you Thom

Imagine thinking it's not. Don't derail the thread with crap.

[Fil3232]

I am very happily enjoying the Brewers broadcast. Thom needs to be launched into space yesterday.

[Wonderful Monds]

Imagine thinking it's not. Don't derail the thread with crap.

I didn’t, thanks.

[JFLegal]

Imagine thinking “America is stronger now than ever before” lol thank you Thom

what do you mean?

[RED VAN HOT]

7 shutout innings and counting.

Actually, Reds pitchers have 21 consecutive shutout innings.

[Ironman92]

Good job Jose [emoji106]

[Tony Cloninger]

Just checking in to let or remind everyone. Castillo is NOT an ace. Number 3 at best.

[JFLegal]

Jeezus, what a change in the pitching department for this team.

they got the pitching.

[NCReds]

When was the last time peraza had a base hit before today?

[Fil3232]

what do you mean?

It’s right there for ya :thumbup:

[JFLegal]

Just checking in to let or remind everyone. Castillo is NOT an ace. Number 3 at best.

i agree. on the nl all-star team, i see him as a #3.

[Tom Servo]

Just checking in to let or remind everyone. Castillo is NOT an ace. Number 3 at best.
That was some great discourse the other week, he also hasn't improved at all.

[Ironman92]

This thread is like talking to my 60 year old mom

[TheBigLebowski]

Casali is being exposed a bit. Not a starting C.

[westofyou]

When was the last time peraza had a base hit before today?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2019.shtml

[malcontent]

This could be a mistake by Counsell.

If Bell had let Winker hit...

[Norm Chortleton]

This thread is like talking to my 60 year old momI'm almost her age. She probably agrees. [emoji16]

[JFLegal]

This thread is like talking to my 60 year old mom

so she agrees votto is the lofiest loafer who has ever loafed? ;)

jk man, i'm gonna move on from that topic now.

[malcontent]

This thread is like talking to my 60 year old mom
Ageist!

;)

[Tony Cloninger]

i agree. on the nl all-star team, i see him as a #3.

No doubt. I mean Bob Gibson would have buried that no hitter after burying the hitter who dared tried to even hit a ball of him.

[westofyou]

and again, any other player who did that would be getting crushed by fans/media. votto gets a pass every time.

Give it a rest

[757690]

That was some great discourse the other week, he also hasn't improved at all.

He’s had brilliant games every year he’s been a Red. I love people who scream “small sample size” also draw conclusions over one game that isn’t even finished.

[JFLegal]

what a garbage ab from ervin. how about do not try and hit every ball 500 feet.

[RR1971]

He swung at three balls

[JFLegal]

Give it a rest

already did. but i appreciate you proving my point.

[westofyou]

already did. but i appreciate you proving my point.

No you didn't you mentioned it again two posts before my reply, try to remember some of us can count too.

[JFLegal]

He swung at three balls

yeah, not the best work there. and i want to like ervin. i want to believe he can be a decent #4 outfielder for this club.

[Tony Cloninger]

He’s had brilliant games every year he’s been a Red. I love people who scream “small sample size” also draw conclusions over one game that isn’t even finished.


Then who were the ones labeling him at best maybe a 2? After a few rough starts with heavy walks. He’s an ace in the making.

[JCM11]

That changeup broke 3 feet like a screwball.

Nice play there by Peraza. I still wish Iglesias was in for defense.

[JFLegal]

nice play, jose.

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now castillo is getting squeezed?

and here comes the rain delay.

[Wonderful Monds]

That’s weird, it hasn’t rained a drop here in Clifton.

[ochoa30]

Damn, that really sucks

[North]

I hope that rain moves north a bit...my wife put down fertilizer on the lawn this morning. :thumbup:

[malcontent]

That changeup broke 3 feet like a screwball.
Fringe change.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Both of those pitches to Aguilar could have been called strikes. Could have finished this inning with one more pitch. What a terrible break.


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[Redeye fly]

yeah, not the best work there. and i want to like ervin. i want to believe he can be a decent #4 outfielder for this club.
He can be. Coming off the bench against a lefthander who looks like he's trying to pull the ball out of his jersey might not be the best measure of judging Ervin... or anyone. He's had plenty of decent at bats before that.

[membengal]

Yikes. I got in from seeing Midsommer in time to see the no-hitter go away. Figured this thread would be fun. Jokes on me!

[Ron Madden]

Yikes. I got in from seeing Midsommer in time to see the no-hitter go away. Figured this thread would be fun. Jokes on me!

Castillo could be pitching a perfect game and the game thread would still be full of people gripping about something.

[TheBigLebowski]

Any word on when/if the game should resume?

[malcontent]

Yikes. I got in from seeing Midsommer in time to see the no-hitter go away. Figured this thread would be fun. Jokes on me!
I think it's just the tension of knowing how big this game is. The fact that they're only 4.5 out, and can get a game closer is crazy.

[mamell]

Castillo could be pitching a perfect game and the game thread would still be full of people gripping about something.

Twas pretty close to perfect minus the 2 HBP then the single.. a great outing by LC.no bones about it. Woodruff really knuckled down as well..

[Tadasimha]

Twas pretty close to perfect minus the 2 HBP then the single.. a great outing by LC.no bones about it. Woodruff really knuckled down as well..

Good pitching from both teams the past two games

[ScotlandRed]

15059

Ummm

[JaxRed]

I assume he's going to be done....

[mamell]

Looking at Wunderground map of the Cincinnati area and it appears that popup storm just keeps regenerating itself in the same spot.. lol Pretty much the same kind of weather here in SC the past hour or so.. Was hot a heck in a black tarp all day till the rain.. And of course I spent an hour watering the flowers right before it started.. Go figure..

[Kingspoint]

Castillo got screwed by the ump on those first two pitches to Aguilar.

[malcontent]

I assume he's going to be done....
Yep. I wonder if it's time for Hughes or Lorenzen. Just please no Hernandez.

[JaxRed]

Yep. I wonder if it's time for Hughes or Lorenzen. Just please no Hernandez.

I'd go Hughes

[Kingspoint]

15059

Ummm

What's going on? mlb stopped after this.

[JFLegal]

Castillo got screwed by the ump on those first two pitches to Aguilar.

big time.

[Tom Servo]

What's going on? mlb stopped after this.

Rain delay

[Kingspoint]

Before he got screwed by those two pitches and the rain delay, Castillo was ready to say to Gray, "I'll see your "8", and raise you "1"."

[Norm Chortleton]

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[CrackerJack]

Tarps coming off

[JaxRed]

And Hernandez warming up. Bell is going to ride that horse till it dies.

[malcontent]

And Hernandez warming up. Bell is going to ride that horse till it dies.
Yep. And I agree that it should be Hughes.

[ochoa30]

Of course he walks Aguilar. Last pitch not close.

[Fil3232]

Great situation to not have a lefty :/

[JFLegal]

nice work hernandez.

[Tom Servo]

Exhale

[Red Raindog]

Never a doubt about Hernandez
[emoji106]


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[bigfoot52]

Way to go David Hernandez!!!
Big pitch !!

[ochoa30]

Very nice breaking ball there. Let's get some insurance.

[malcontent]

Whoaaaa....Hernandez.

:thumbup:

[BluegrassRedleg]

Whew. Nice pitch for the punchout. Would help to get a run (or three) here with Yelich due to come up in the 9th.

[Fil3232]

Castillo charged with the walk. Tough one.
Didn’t trust DH there but he came through. Nice going.

[JaxRed]

Inexcusable for Castillo to walk that guy...:D

[PuffyPig]

If you look at Fangraphs, Hernandez has been a much better pitcher than Hughes this year, just been much unluckier.

I get that he's looked pretty tired recently, but have to believe that Bell is aware and has taken that in consideration.

[JaxRed]

Is Raisel warming?

[JFLegal]

Castillo charged with the walk. Tough one.
Didn’t trust DH there but he came through. Nice going.

first walk in mlb history where a pitcher only throws two pitches -- both strikes (at least should have been) -- and walks a batter.

pretty damn impressive.

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Is Raisel warming?

yes.

[JaxRed]

I wouldn't mind if we scored 3 and they had Raisel sit back down.

[JFLegal]

I wouldn't mind if we scored 3 and they had Raisel sit back down.

that would un-suck.

welp. dp lane. we'll need to settle for a puig blast.

[JaxRed]

From Cubs/Pirates game....

Maddon tossed after another brushback pitch to one of his guys.

Emerges from dugout and appears to go after Hurdle, who's on top step of Pirates dugout -- Maddon blocked by ump West (Joe vs. Joe).

[bigfoot52]

DP. Ugh!

[JFLegal]

From Cubs/Pirates game....

Maddon tossed after another brushback pitch to one of his guys.

Emerges from dugout and appears to go after Hurdle, who's on top step of Pirates dugout -- Maddon blocked by ump West (Joe vs. Joe).

pretty sure that would not go well for maddon.

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iggy coming on for the save.

[Red Raindog]

pretty sure that would not go well for maddon.

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iggy coming on for the save.

Yeah
I doubt Maddon would get his hands above his waist before he would be visiting sleepy land


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[bigfoot52]

No walks please!

[BluegrassRedleg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNu8X50VYeA

[NCReds]

This will be an exciting inning. Knowing that one swing can change the whole game...

[Powel Crosley]

Oh boy...

[Red Raindog]

Bad luck with the ball bouncing against the bottom the outfield padding


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[Kc61]

Ball 3 there hurt. Iglesias had to come in to Yelich with a full count, that’s a tough spot. Can’t fall behind on a guy like Yelich.

[Equinox]

Game has a playoff feel to it, intense and in need of a win

[bigfoot52]

A catch, Phil.

[Red Raindog]

Nice job Ervin


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[Ironman92]

Nice!

[JCM11]

What a great catch by Ervin. Luckily that goof ball in the stands who tried to catch it looks like he's never played ball before.

[bigfoot52]

Keep it out of the dirt, Iggy.

[JCM11]

Iggy's on a roll.

[Ironman92]

BOOM

[bigfoot52]

Great job to get the lefties out.

[Red Raindog]

I’m heading towards optimism


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[Kingspoint]

:thumbup:

[ochoa30]

Awesome game and win!!!

[TheBigLebowski]

YESSIR

[North]

See what clean livin' gets ya! :castellini:

[paulrichjr]

Oh my goodness. Baseball is fun again

[Ron Madden]

Reds Win!!!

3.5 outta first place! I still have hope!

[malcontent]

3.5 back on 7/4.

[mamell]

YIPPIEKY YAY! Reds Win! 23 scoreless innings.. Not too shabby folks..

[Tadasimha]

Great win and a big series win too!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Derek Johnson, Reds MVP?


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[Mutaman]

Just like old KoKo. Where are the doubters now?

[bigfoot52]

If our offense ever catches fire, look out!

[Redeye fly]

23 consecutive scoreless innings against that team. Yes the game has ups and downs and sometimes you hit someone who's down. But you still have to do it and when guys like Yelich, Thames, Moustakas, and others can leave the park with one swing that's pretty impressive regardless. Grandal and their new guy in there as well.

[mamell]

See what clean livin' gets ya! :castellini:

The only thing clean lvin ever did for me is cost a bunch for soap.. LOL But I took a nice long shower right before the game anyway just to make Proctor and Gamble a little richer..

[ochoa30]

23 consecutive scoreless innings against that team. Yes the game has ups and downs and sometimes you hit someone who's down. But you still have to do it and when guys like Yelich, Thames, Moustakas, and others can leave the park with one swing that's pretty impressive regardless. Grandal and their new guy in there as well.

Yep. Good pitching beats good hitting and that's what happened here this series. Especially the last 2 games. Cant remember the last time the Reds got back to back starts like those 2 right there. Beautiful to watch.

[mamell]

It's very good to see Rasial Iglesias get his pitches back in order instead of throwing batting practice every time out.. He's starting to pay off down the stretch into the ASG..

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Yep. Good pitching beats good hitting and that's what happened here this series. Especially the last 2 games. Cant remember the last time the Reds got back to back starts like those 2 right there. Beautiful to watch.

Exactly 973 months 8 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes and 59 seconds.. Oh wait..How about forever ago?

[mamell]

You know... One might think the Reds surprise pitching staff would be all over MLB.com, but yet hardly a peep.. I guess they have to get back to back to back to back no hitters and 15 HRs per game or something.. It's still nice to fly under the radar anyway..
Heck, just 3.5 back in last place beats EVERY last place team by HUGE margins and the only one of two even in 4th place with a + run differential. The Halo's are at +7 @ 11 games out in 4th place.. This should be BIG news in baseball..

In other news the Reds aren't the only NLC team losing it's temper over the Pirates throwing at hitters. Maddon was just tossed for yelling into the Pirates dug out, probably telling Hurdle what punks he and his pitching staff are.. I'm sure the exact words might get me tossed from this site come to think about it..

[WVRedsFan]

I have to call myself an idiot. It's Independence Day, so I did the whole thing--parades, activities, etc., thinking the game was at 7:10. Why, I don't know. So, with the satellite still tuned to FSO, I turn it on, thinking I'd only miss a little bit. Instead I saw the three outs, the fantastic Irvin catch, and the end of the 3-1 series win. Unfortunately while the Cubs and Brewers are faltering, last place is where we seem to be stuck in since the Pirates are playing the once hapless Cubs. just part of being a reds fan, I guess. Good win. Big win.

[Redeye fly]

I have to call myself an idiot. It's Independence Day, so I did the whole thing--parades, activities, etc., thinking the game was at 7:10. Why, I don't know. So, with the satellite still tuned to FSO, I turn it on, thinking I'd only miss a little bit. Instead I saw the three outs, the fantastic Irvin catch, and the end of the 3-1 series win. Unfortunately while the Cubs and Brewers are faltering, last place is where we seem to be stuck in since the Pirates are playing the once hapless Cubs. just part of being a reds fan, I guess. Good win. Big win.

The thing is, when last place has you 3.5 games out of first I don't think it really matters like it generally does. I don't think we should have any illusions of a World Series appearance or even first place with 4 other teams in front of us. But, just play well with hopefully a little more offensive production and let the rest take care of itself. And the offense isn't awful. Needs improvement without a doubt. But we scored 6 runs and 5 runs the first 2 games of this series and had enough hits to generate more than 1 run on most days in this game. Woodruff has a great arm and is clearly their most talented starter.

[gagliano]

The thing is, when last place has you 3.5 games out of first I don't think it really matters like it generally does. I don't think we should have any illusions of a World Series appearance or even first place with 4 other teams in front of us. But, just play well with hopefully a little more offensive production and let the rest take care of itself. And the offense isn't awful. Needs improvement without a doubt. But we scored 6 runs and 5 runs the first 2 games of this series and had enough hits to generate more than 1 run on most days in this game. Woodruff has a great arm and is clearly their most talented starter.

awesome, awesome win. these kinds of wins can change a season. within range and 79 games to go, who knows? and my apologies to winker. he hit a hell of a leadoff today!

[PuffyPig]

In the dog days of August and September, the teams that can run a reliable starter out there day after day generally comes out the winner.

We saw the Griffey Reds stay close for half a season sometimes and then fade badly down the stretch for that very reason.

The Reds pitching staff has given up the least amount of runs in the NL so far. If that continues, we'll be in the playoffs. Winker, Votto and Puig are all hitting these days, so our offense will be at least league average.

[Fil3232]

In the dog days of August and September, the teams that can run a reliable starter out there day after day generally comes out the winner.

We saw the Griffey Reds stay close for half a season sometimes and then fade badly down the stretch for that very reason.

The Reds pitching staff has given up the least amount of runs in the NL so far. If that continues, we'll be in the playoffs. Winker, Votto and Puig are all hitting these days, so our offense will be at least league average.

Agree. Also why this team *needs* Alex Wood to get healthy and be able to contribute. Barring getting a starter at the deadline, there is no margin for error should one of the starters get injured. This team needs great health and/or some infusion of arms to truly compete.

[cumberlandreds]

The starting pitching seems to be getting better. If it continues this trend that should be good for the rest of the season. This team is on the right road to urn the corner. If they turn that corner then they have a good shot at the playoffs.

Holding down a Brewer offense like they did is very impressive. No one else has done that this season.

[Kingspoint]

The starting pitching seems to be getting better. If it continues this trend that should be good for the rest of the season. This team is on the right road to urn the corner. If they turn that corner then they have a good shot at the playoffs.

Holding down a Brewer offense like they did is very impressive. No one else has done that this season.

They've been fortunate to be healthy (knock on wood) as there appears to be no help in AA or AAA. The Sims start was a fluke. Asking him to be average, at best, seems to be asking for help. We'll have to trade hitting for pitching or else trade pitching prospects below AA for help, which is incredibly stupid. We have hitting throughout the organization where players are blocked at multiple levels. That's where the help is going to have to come from.

If you find yourself waiting on Wood, you'll run out of time.

[Umkubas]

Winner Winner chicken dinner

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/brewers-vs-reds/2019/07/04/565262#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565262

[Umkubas]

Cant remember the last time the Reds got back to back starts like those 2 right there.

Game 33 - May 11th, 2010 - Cueto pitches a complete game - Reds win 5-0
Game 34 - May 12th, 2010 - Bailey pitches a complete game - Reds win 5-0

Game 115 - August 12th, 2012 - Cueto pitches 8 innings - Reds win 3-0
Game 116 - August 14th, 2012 - Latos pitches 7 innings - Reds win 3-0

Game 55 - May 31st, 2013 - Cueto pitches 8 innings - Reds win 6-0
Game 56 - June 1st, 2013 - Leake pitches 6 innings - Reds win 2-0

Game 98 - July 28th, 2015 - Leake pitches 8 innings - Reds win 4-0
Game 99 - July 29th, 2015 - Descalfani pitches 7 innings - Reds win 1-0

GO SUNDEVIL BASEBALL

[GAC]

This thread is like talking to my 60 year old mom

The sad part is - I'm older then your Mom son! LOL

Here's what's funny .... Read the first page or two, pre-game, and listen to people questioning pretty much everything - manager's lineup .... why is this player(s) starting? ... the batting order.... what's wrong with Bell? We're trying to win games here!

Final score: Reds 1 Brewers 0

And one of those players someone didn't want to start made a game changing catch in the 9th, no outs, and Yelich on 2B. Go figure and GO REDS!