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Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 11:02 AM
Reds
Senzel CF
Winker RF
Suarez 3B
Dietrich 1B
Ervin LF
Gennett 2B
Iglesias SS
Farmer C
Mahle P

Rockies
Tapia LF
Story SS
Dahl RF
Murphy 1B
Desmond CF
McMahon 3B
Wolters C
Hampson 2B
Senzatela P

mamell
07-14-2019, 11:15 AM
Mahle will either pitch pretty good or will not pitch pretty good. There's even the possibility that he just pitches OK and maybe even not OK.
I'm really firm on this so don't try to talk me out of it.

klw
07-14-2019, 11:19 AM
Mahle will either pitch pretty good or will not pitch pretty good. There's even the possibility that he just pitches OK and maybe even not OK.
I'm really firm on this so don't try to talk me out of it.

Is so so not an option?

davereds24
07-14-2019, 11:48 AM
Why does Castillo not go today? Does he really need extra rest from the ASG? Itís been over a week since his last start.

Iím glad Bell rewarded Ervin. Winker needs to get it going or itís going to be an all righty outfield soon.

Rolando
07-14-2019, 11:50 AM
Why does Castillo not go today? Does he really need extra rest from the ASG? It’s been over a week since his last start.

they would rather him Start against the Cubs which makes since.

North
07-14-2019, 11:53 AM
Mahle will either pitch pretty good or will not pitch pretty good. There's even the possibility that he just pitches OK and maybe even not OK.
I'm really firm on this so don't try to talk me out of it.

As the fellow said when he stepped up to the podium, "I come before you to stand behind you.". ;)

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 12:10 PM
I like it.

Puig was gassed last night. Votto needs a day off after that.

About anything is fine for 1 game, itís a long haul.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 12:16 PM
For those of you Debbie Downers...how about after last night you let the game play out a bit. Maybe instead of the negativity on here just scream at your tv instead. A 9 inning game in Colorado and down in the first inning and itís all over for some of you. I donít know how it will play out and you donít either.

Be patient a bit, itís a long game. Donít complain about Thomís announcing and then be a Thom on here.

Go Reds!

Kc61
07-14-2019, 12:33 PM
For those of you Debbie Downers...how about after last night you let the game play out a bit. Maybe instead of the negativity on here just scream at your tv instead. A 9 inning game in Colorado and down in the first inning and it’s all over for some of you. I don’t know how it will play out and you don’t either.

Be patient a bit, it’s a long game. Don’t complain about Thom’s announcing and then be a Thom on here.

Go Reds!

Agree completely.

But still irritated about Friday night’s loss. Sorry.

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Let’s go Scooter!

mamell
07-14-2019, 12:37 PM
Is so so not an option?

See? Already trying to talk me out of it.. :p
I'm gonna go buy some new socks and a new pillow.. I have such an exciting afternoon planned.. Shopping! woooooo! :help:

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 12:39 PM
Agree completely.

But still irritated about Friday nightís loss. Sorry.

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Letís go Scooter!

Absolutely....but you werenít crying about it in the 3rd inning

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 01:14 PM
After last night's video game scoring and late finish, probably going to be a fee less runs but more than on Friday. Hopefully Ervin keeps the hot bat going and that fires up Winker.

RR1971
07-14-2019, 01:16 PM
I’d like to see what Farmer can do with more at bats. I think if he can hit 20 home runs then whatever kind of defense he has will be good. We’re just not getting much power from the other two and I’m not sure that tandem is the future. If Farmer hits better with more playing time I would move one of the other two this winter. We may be stuck with Tucker so it may be Casali. The days of sticking a 250 catcher with no power back in the 7-8 spot are over. We need better production out of that position and I don’t see anybody in the minors who would make ilia better. Farmer may be our best internal option.

HammerTime
07-14-2019, 01:16 PM
Really would like to see Scooter get going today. Good spot for him to do it.

RR1971
07-14-2019, 01:18 PM
After last night's video game scoring and late finish, probably going to be a fee less runs but more than on Friday. Hopefully Ervin keeps the hot bat going and that fires up Winker.
Mahle gives up home runs a lot so we may have to score a bunch more today.

HammerTime
07-14-2019, 01:21 PM
Iíd like to see what Farmer can do with more at bats. I think if he can hit 20 home runs then whatever kind of defense he has will be good. Weíre just not getting much power from the other two and Iím not sure that tandem is the future. If Farmer hits better with more playing time I would move one of the other two this winter. We may be stuck with Tucker so it may be Casali. The days of sticking a 250 catcher with no power back in the 7-8 spot are over. We need better production out of that position and I donít see anybody in the minors who would make ilia better. Farmer may be our best internal option.

MLB team averages for catchers .242/.313/.413

Reds are 21 out of 30 in OPS. If Farmer can be 0 WAR player defensively he should be getting starts at C.

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Mahle gives up home runs a lot so we may have to score a bunch more today.

Arenado out of the lineup at least.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 01:43 PM
MLB team averages for catchers .242/.313/.413

Reds are 21 out of 30 in OPS. If Farmer can be 0 WAR player defensively he should be getting starts at C.

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Arenado out of the lineup at least.

Iíd rather win and get to watch Arenado play

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 02:15 PM
Homer Bailey to the Aís

RR1971
07-14-2019, 02:26 PM
Homer Bailey to the A’s

Looks like KC got a weak hitting middle infielder in return.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 03:03 PM
Puig sore knee.

I noticed it last night. Hope itís nothing much

gagliano
07-14-2019, 03:05 PM
Reds
Senzel CF
Winker RF
Suarez 3B
Dietrich 1B
Ervin LF
Gennett 2B
Iglesias SS
Farmer C
Mahle P

Rockies
Tapia LF
Story SS
Dahl RF
Murphy 1B
Desmond CF
McMahon 3B
Wolters C
Hampson 2B
Senzatela P

4pm games suck

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Mahle will either pitch pretty good or will not pitch pretty good. There's even the possibility that he just pitches OK and maybe even not OK.
I'm really firm on this so don't try to talk me out of it.

gutsy call

gagliano
07-14-2019, 03:08 PM
Homer Bailey to the A’s

as an oakland fan, this is disturbing.

WVRedsFan
07-14-2019, 03:08 PM
Homer Bailey to the A’sLike Joey said about Jay Bruce, Homer's in the past. Bye, bye, Homer.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:08 PM
as an oakland fan, this is disturbing.
As a what now

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 03:10 PM
4pm games suck

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gutsy call

3:10 games are awesome though

WVRedsFan
07-14-2019, 03:10 PM
After 5 hours of sleep, I'm back and ready unless this game goes to 3:00 AM. That would be a problem.

gagliano
07-14-2019, 03:11 PM
3:10 games are awesome though

close enough

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As a what now

they're my AL team

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:15 PM
Senzel just misses another triple lol, just foul

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:17 PM
Like yesterday, Reds down in order in the first.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:21 PM
Rockies announcers are very well-informed. They seem to know a lot about Mahle.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 03:21 PM
Wow....thanks for stopping at 2nd

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:22 PM
Here we go, leadoff double for the Rox

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Brutal error by Suarez, doing that a bit lately.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:22 PM
No excuse for that, Geno

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:23 PM
4pm games suck

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gutsy call

Well, I do like living out on the limbs since I used to like climbing trees as a kid.. The only trees I climb these days are pre cut up as lumber on the floor as in wood flooring..

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That platinum blond look on Suarez is affecting him..

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:25 PM
Wow....thanks for stopping at 2nd

Coaches call, he was watching the coach the whole way.

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:26 PM
So much for Thom's down and away prediction..

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:28 PM
So much for Thom's down and away prediction..

Thom?

Equinox
07-14-2019, 03:31 PM
With Mahle pitching we may need another 17 runs again....

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:33 PM
Mahle just misses a fine job pitching around the error and getting a zero on the board on 22 pitches, and is upset he wasn't able to flag down the RBI grounder up the middle for the 3rd out!

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And it now turns in to a crooked number for the Rockies.

North
07-14-2019, 03:33 PM
Walsh and Thom sound alike to me many times.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:34 PM
So much of Mahle's problems seem to be mental. If he makes a mistake, count on him making another or two immediately after.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:35 PM
3-0 Rox

Kind of concerning that Mahle is coming apart right around the same point he did last season

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:35 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't appear Mahle has much movement on his FB..

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:36 PM
Reds playing like they were up too late last night!

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:37 PM
Three sloppy defensive plays so far.

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:37 PM
Two really sloppy outfield plays in a row doesn't bid well for a win..

GAC
07-14-2019, 03:38 PM
Typical Mahle first inning

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:38 PM
So much of Mahle's problems seem to be mental. If he makes a mistake, count on him making another or two immediately after.

Kind of like Cueto and Castillo in their earlier years.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:38 PM
If, and it's a big IF, Alex Wood joins the rotation eventually, I don't see how it's a debate about who he might replace.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:38 PM
Gotta get one of Stephenson or Bowman warming up

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If, and it's a big IF, Alex Wood joins the rotation eventually, I don't see how it's a debate about who he might replace.
Yeah a month ago I thought it was Disco but it’s an easy choice now.

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:39 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't appear Mahle has much movement on his FB..

Due to thin air!

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 03:39 PM
I turned over to MLB Network to watch perfect game and as channel changed the pitch was being struck and a hit that was right to second but they were shifted

I broke up the perfect game in 1/10th of a second lol

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:40 PM
Well that was a fun inning for other people....just not for us.
I just feel like today's lineup isn't going to produce a hell of a lot..

GAC
07-14-2019, 03:40 PM
Is there some reason why this is not being broadcast on WLW 700? At least not on iHeartRadio.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 03:41 PM
Like yesterday, Reds down in order in the first.
Like yesterday, a 4 spot for Colorado in the first.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 03:41 PM
I canít make any decisions on pitchers or hitters when temps are below 55 or playing in Colorado

RR1971
07-14-2019, 03:42 PM
Thought the game started at 340 so I just turned it on and saw the score. Not really surprised. Most MLB teams reset their rotations to get their best pitchers line up to start the second half. We decide to let ours miss 3 games in Colorado and start a guy who gives up 2 HRs a game with a 4.5 ERa. Oh well, let’s start hitting again.

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:42 PM
Well that was a fun inning for other people....just not for us.
I just feel like today's lineup isn't going to produce a hell of a lot..

Scooter is the guy I want to see something from. I still think Dietrich is done.

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Scooter is the guy I want to see something from. I still think Dietrich is done.

OK that's better !

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:46 PM
Hustle double from Dietrich and a walk to Ervin. Scooter up.

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:47 PM
Two bad breaking ball hitters, Dietrich and Ervin, hitting good in the thin air where the breaking balls aren't nearly as sharp.

RR1971
07-14-2019, 03:48 PM
Ervin seems to swing at a lot of low balls out of the zone but other than that he looks like he has a pretty good eye. If he can develop some more power and hit around 280 he may be an everyday player.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:49 PM
Reds aren't the only people playing sloppy defense

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:49 PM
I guess the Rockies were up late also!

North
07-14-2019, 03:49 PM
Better to be lucky than good?

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:49 PM
Wow..Sparkling defense today. I'm impressed.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:50 PM
Scooter does good, Scooter does bad.

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:51 PM
Good play by the P retiring Scooter from the hotbox with no throws!

Scooter base running costs the Reds a run.

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 03:51 PM
I turned over to MLB Network to watch perfect game and as channel changed the pitch was being struck and a hit that was right to second but they were shifted

I broke up the perfect game in 1/10th of a second lol

There is no more appropriate way for a perfecto to be broken up in baseball these days than a routine grounder going through where the second baseman typically camps out.


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RR1971
07-14-2019, 03:51 PM
Scooter does good, Scooter does bad.
He should have gone back to second. Maybe could have beat it.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 03:51 PM
Help yourself back into the game, TM

mamell
07-14-2019, 03:53 PM
Kinda looked like Mahle made it to first.. DUMB DUM DUMB on the pitcher's part there though.

RR1971
07-14-2019, 03:53 PM
There is no more appropriate way for a perfecto to be broken up in baseball these days than a routine grounder going through where the second baseman typically camps out.

Kent Murphy said he broke up 4000 no hitters in the first inning.

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Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 03:53 PM
I have a senz that this is a big matchup

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 03:53 PM
Good hustle from Mahle -- I think he thought he was trying to beat out a double play.

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:55 PM
based loaded for da Wink

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 03:56 PM
Group Hug

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Huge at bat for Winker. No weak grounder to second please....

North
07-14-2019, 03:57 PM
Eight runs so far...it's deja vu all over again. :p

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 03:57 PM
well that was fortunate

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 03:57 PM
I'll take it!

WVRedsFan
07-14-2019, 03:58 PM
It's happening again! I love it!

CrackerJack
07-14-2019, 03:58 PM
Need more triples

RR1971
07-14-2019, 03:59 PM
Hard hit ball by Winker. Maybe his luck is changing.

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 03:59 PM
I think thatís the 4th time they batted around in two days.


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mamell
07-14-2019, 04:00 PM
I missed the play with Winker up...what happened?

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:01 PM
So much for Scooter not wanting to play

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 04:01 PM
Does Welsh ever make comments like that for Votto not having his feet in the right place at 1st base?

Scooter's temporarily lost run due to base running did finally score.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:02 PM
Does Welsh ever make comments like that for Votto not having his feet in the right place at 1st base?

Scooter's temporarily lost run due to base running did finally score.

Never...but 1st thing I thought of when I saw Murphyís feet

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:03 PM
Even the Rockies fans have hands of stone

North
07-14-2019, 04:03 PM
Coors Field should be the permanent home of the All-Star game. :runaway:

OGB
07-14-2019, 04:03 PM
I wish I could find a relevant thread in ORG to discuss this, but for all the "Reds defense is a massive liability" doom and gloom crowd, we are watching one of the worst defensive series in a long time by this Rockies team.
Granted the Reds haven't been great, but THIS is what bad defense looks like.
Counting Winker's 3B on Friday, I honestly feel like 5 of the Reds' 6 triples were balls that were misplayed into an extra base.
That last inning of Rockies defense was stunningly bad.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:04 PM
I assume David Dahlís momís name is Barbie

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 04:04 PM
nice inning for Mahle

Equinox
07-14-2019, 04:05 PM
Reds down 4-0 after the first inning? No problem

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:05 PM
Nice uno-dos-tres from Tyler!

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:05 PM
I wish I could find a relevant thread in ORG to discuss this, but for all the "Reds defense is a massive liability" doom and gloom crowd, we are watching one of the worst defensive series in a long time by this Rockies team.
Granted the Reds haven't been great, but THIS is what bad defense looks like.
Counting Winker's 3B on Friday, I honestly feel like 5 of the Reds' 6 triples were balls that were misplayed into an extra base.
That last inning of Rockies defense was stunningly bad.

Blackmon robbed Puig of a triple yesterday

CrackerJack
07-14-2019, 04:06 PM
I never cared for the fact a fan can reach over the wall to interfere with a play and it's "ok." Maybe I'm missing something that makes more sense than allowing that.

Kc61
07-14-2019, 04:06 PM
So much for Scooter not wanting to play

Yeah, what was that all about?

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:06 PM
Coaches call, he was watching the coach the whole way.

Replay I watched showed him slowing to 2nd, nearly there and then looking to 3rd

mhs95_06
07-14-2019, 04:07 PM
Doesn't hardly seem fair that Mahle's 4 runs are unearned and Senzatela's 4 are earned. Both teams' defenses less than stellar!

OGB
07-14-2019, 04:07 PM
Blackmon robbed Puig of a triple yesterday

So one good play negates an entire series of miserable defense?

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:07 PM
Yeah, what was that all about?

Heís just not tough and really doesnít wanna play

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:07 PM
Thought the Rockies made a bunch of good plays Friday night

mamell
07-14-2019, 04:08 PM
I wish I could find a relevant thread in ORG to discuss this, but for all the "Reds defense is a massive liability" doom and gloom crowd, we are watching one of the worst defensive series in a long time by this Rockies team.
Granted the Reds haven't been great, but THIS is what bad defense looks like.
Counting Winker's 3B on Friday, I honestly feel like 5 of the Reds' 6 triples were balls that were misplayed into an extra base.
That last inning of Rockies defense was stunningly bad.

To be fair it was a late, late game for both teams, but still not up to big league standards for any team at any time of day or night..

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:08 PM
So one good play negates an entire series of miserable defense?

Where did I say that? I was simply saying...one triple was saved.

Itís been a terrible defensive series outside of Rockies INF in game 1

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:09 PM
Thought the Rockies made a bunch of good plays Friday night

They did. Their infield robbed several hits from the Reds.

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:11 PM
Scooter doesn't want to bat LOL

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:13 PM
Got him!

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:13 PM
Murphy isn't good at this whole baserunning thing, is he?

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 04:13 PM
Dietrich does bad, Dietrich does good.

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:13 PM
LOL at that play on both sides. Good grief.

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Good offense bad defense LOL

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Murphy and Votto are so similar

North
07-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Poor base running there...

Wonderful Monds
07-14-2019, 04:14 PM
They’re wearing their red alternates on the road today I just realized, that’s pretty unusual isn’t it?

mamell
07-14-2019, 04:15 PM
Safe at first I should think..

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:15 PM
WOW!!! Nice Play

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 04:15 PM
Rockies announcers are very upset

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
BAD call

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
"Tags him after the fact." :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
He didnít make an effort to 2nd?

Awful awful call

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
I don't know what to say about that play by Geno - other than good stop Dietrich!

Norm Chortleton
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
Rockies got hosed there

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
Why wouldn't the Rox challenge that?

RedlegsFanatic
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
Can anyone please explain to me why David Bell had Hernandez facing the toughest part of the Rockies lineup on Friday? Well...Dahl?
& Murphy?
Instead of Wandy (who was up) or Amir? What's the point in even having them on the roster?
Especially leaving him in to let Murphy homer off him. Who had already homered off Hernandez once in 8 at bats.

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
I have no idea what we just saw.

Red Raindog
07-14-2019, 04:16 PM
Iím going with the runner turned towards second base after crossing the bag and was tagged out then


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GAC
07-14-2019, 04:17 PM
Dietrich putting in the work

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:17 PM
Poor Dietrich is getting a workout today.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
Iím going with the runner turned towards second base after crossing the bag and was tagged out then


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That was the umpís call, but a terrible call in favor of the Reds

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
Can anyone please explain to me why David Bell had Hernandez facing the toughest part of the Rockies lineup on Friday? Well...Daul & Murphy?
Instead of Wandy (who was up) or Amir? What's the point in even having them on the roster?
Especially leaving him in to let Murphy homer off him. Who had already homered off Hernandez once in 8 at bats.

Garrett is on the IL

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
Can anyone please explain to me why David Bell had Hernandez facing the toughest part of the Rockies lineup on Friday? Well...Daul & Murphy?
Instead of Wandy (who was up) or Amir? What's the point in even having them on the roster?
Especially leaving him in to let Murphy homer off him. Who had already homered off Hernandez once in 8 at bats.

We've moved on. We're complaining about Saturday now.

WrongVerb
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
"Tags him after the fact." :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Rockies announcers saying (IMO correctly) that the runner had to show intent to go to second to be tagged out like that. Nice to have a bad call go in the Reds favor.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
Almost like the ump doesnít know the rule

Kc61
07-14-2019, 04:18 PM
I’m going with the runner turned towards second base after crossing the bag and was tagged out then


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He’s not even allowed to turn toward second base? Without advancing toward second? Odd call.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
I have no idea what we just saw.

A little off Joe Buckís infamous call

ochoa30
07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
I’m going with the runner turned towards second base after crossing the bag and was tagged out then


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I think he called him out on the catch, not the tag. Replay never showed it slow enough but his toe may have been on the bag for a split second when he caught the ball although I doubt it. I dont see any other way its not challenged but who knows, lol.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
Can anyone please explain to me why David Bell had Hernandez facing the toughest part of the Rockies lineup on Friday? Well...Dahl?
& Murphy?
Instead of Wandy (who was up) or Amir? What's the point in even having them on the roster?
Especially leaving him in to let Murphy homer off him. Who had already homered off Hernandez once in 8 at bats.

Please let it go and move on

Red Raindog
07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
In this case yes
Didnít say I thought itís a fair call


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JaxRed
07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
O'Grady has homered today also

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:20 PM
Heís not even allowed to turn toward second base? Without advancing toward second? Odd call.

Heís allowed but not convince ump knows that

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:21 PM
I’m going with the runner turned towards second base after crossing the bag and was tagged out then


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If Chris Welsh is right about the rule... the runner is allowed to do that. It's all about body language and if the ump thinks he made a move towards 2B. And I didn't see it. Bad call IMO

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:22 PM
If that was considered a move toward second base, can you imagine the can of worms it would open for future replay stoppages?

mamell
07-14-2019, 04:22 PM
That was a little too quick..

Kc61
07-14-2019, 04:22 PM
He’s allowed but not convince ump knows that

I thought ump forgot you’re allowed to run through first base. He’s so used to these plays after the slide, usually at second.

But who knows.

North
07-14-2019, 04:27 PM
Gift horse...

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:27 PM
Maybe during his starts they need to figure out a way where Mahle doesn't pitch the first inning! LOL

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:27 PM
That should have been a K.

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:28 PM
Geez ump!

BCubb2003
07-14-2019, 04:29 PM
The off-to-second call isnít a reviewable call is it?

Kc61
07-14-2019, 04:29 PM
Mahle getting some tough calls on close pitches.

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:30 PM
If Jim Day would keep his mouth shut he wouldn't have to floss

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1-2-3 4th inning for Mahle

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:32 PM
The off-to-second call isnít a reviewable call is it?

According to the Rockies announcers it wasn't

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:34 PM
LOL the bullpens are like "what do you guys want here?"

JCM11
07-14-2019, 04:35 PM
Rockies catcher acting like a punk.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:35 PM
Senzel not gonna take any lip from Rox catcher

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:35 PM
Rockies catcher said something that ticked Senzel off

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:35 PM
I like how Senzel gets hit, Wolters runs his mouth, and the ump's all over Senzel. WTF

JCM11
07-14-2019, 04:36 PM
Ha ha steals second on the yapper.

Red Raindog
07-14-2019, 04:36 PM
Hope he steals third too


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BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:36 PM
Aw. Too bad. Would have like to have seen Wolters' feeble throw to second.

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:36 PM
He should probably stop talking and learn how to control the ball.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:36 PM
I like how Senzel gets hit, Wolters runs his mouth, and the ump's all over Senzel. WTF

Rookie

CrackerJack
07-14-2019, 04:38 PM
big black & blue mark on Senzel's elbow it looks like, yikes

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:38 PM
I like how Senzel gets hit, Wolters runs his mouth, and the ump's all over Senzel. WTF

I don't think the ump was giving Senzel a hard time... just trying to get in between the two

You know how you answer the catcher? steal second base onhim lol

podgejeff_
07-14-2019, 04:39 PM
Stop swinging on this guy, he's lost the zone.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:40 PM
5-4 Reds

GAC
07-14-2019, 04:40 PM
When Senzel comes home - take the catcher out! lmao

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:40 PM
Good grief. I thought that was going to be a pop-up to center that had a close play at the plate.

RED VAN HOT
07-14-2019, 04:40 PM
Why bring the IF in in the 5th at Coors?

North
07-14-2019, 04:41 PM
Senzel is a class act.

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:45 PM
Senzel is a class act.

Has a lot of fire. Met him at reds caravan. He is confident. I believe if he becomes a star heíll be one many donít like.

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 04:45 PM
If Hernandez gets up I might go crazy....

Red Raindog
07-14-2019, 04:46 PM
If Hernandez gets up I might go crazy....

How would we tell?
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BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:47 PM
Whatever advanced scouting report they had on Murphy, they need to burn it.

Equinox
07-14-2019, 04:48 PM
Wish Wood wanted to pitch, could use a fifth MLB level starter. Mahle would be a good bullpen guy or double header starter when we need an extra starter, but he’s just not a good rotational guy

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:48 PM
Looks like The 3rd time through the order is catching up to Mahle

Ironman92
07-14-2019, 04:49 PM
Nice play Scooter

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:49 PM
Nice play there, by Scooter

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 04:49 PM
Whatever advanced scouting report they had on Murphy, they need to burn it.
One of those guys who the rest of the league has mostly cooled down since his 2016-2017 peak, except he still hits like a 1.000 OPS guy against the Reds.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:50 PM
Why not ibb to setup the double play?

JCM11
07-14-2019, 04:52 PM
Bullpen just now getting up. Bell is kinda bad at this managing thing.

ochoa30
07-14-2019, 04:52 PM
Mahle just cant get lefties out

HammerTime
07-14-2019, 04:53 PM
There should have been someone up in the pen already.

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 04:53 PM
Bullpen just now getting up. Bell is kinda bad at this managing thing.

I assumed someone had been throwing.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 04:54 PM
8 runs in 4 1/3 innings still no call to the pen.

Clown show

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
Bullpen just now getting up. Bell is kinda bad at this managing thing.
Reds have a game in Chicago tomorrow, pretty sure the idea was to get as much out of Mahle here as possible. Unfortunately he crapped the bed for another big inning.

Red Raindog
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
This looks like two tired teams to me


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malcontent
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
8 runs in 4 1/3 innings still no call to the pen.

Clown show
2.5 more years of it.

HammerTime
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
Alright. I’m done, go enjoy the rest of the day everyone.

Kc61
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
If Reds would rather preserve the pen than go for the win, I’m out.

See you all tomorrow.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
Wheels have completely fallen off

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 04:56 PM
No bueno.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 04:56 PM
Reds have a game in Chicago tomorrow, pretty sure the idea was to get as much out of Mahle here as possible. Unfortunately he crapped the bed for another big inning.

The main goal should be to win this game and the series.

North
07-14-2019, 04:56 PM
Sell! :evil:

KronoRed
07-14-2019, 04:56 PM
Love some Coors field baseball, Reds will make a comeback.

Equinox
07-14-2019, 04:57 PM
Well, I was about to turn the game off then I saw Mahle leaving the game so I’ll stay tuned. Really wish I could have stayed up for last nights game

ochoa30
07-14-2019, 04:57 PM
Hard to fathom why he is left in to get hit around like that. Are the at most 2 extra outs he could have gotten worth 5 runs? Odd. Bell has really made some perplexing decisions in this series for sure

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 04:58 PM
The main goal should be to win this game and the series.
Sure, I agree. But it's not like going to the bullpen guarantees success. You could just as easily see the bullpen blow up and then you've not only lost this game but severely hamstrung yourself for the impending Cubs series.

I think Mahle should have been yanked sooner, but I get the thought process. He hadn't thrown a lot of pitches and had put up 3 scoreless innings. Bell showed him some faith, and he crapped out that inning.

Todd Gack
07-14-2019, 04:58 PM
This looks like two tired teams to me


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Too many fans think the manager should manage EVERY GAME like Game 7 of the World Series.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 04:58 PM
8 runs in 4 1/3 innings still no call to the pen.

Clown show

Yet you waited till they got someone up in the bullpen to complain about nobody warming up in the bullpen

NCReds
07-14-2019, 04:58 PM
Might as well have let Mahle finish the inning if youíre gonna let him allow 5 runs before pulling him. Shouldíve pulled him after the first run allowed.

malcontent
07-14-2019, 04:59 PM
I think we overrated Mahle, just slightly.

RR1971
07-14-2019, 04:59 PM
Reds have completely mismanaged this series. Hernandez on Friday and starting Mahle today. Castillo should have pitched today or yesterday. You reset your rotation and don’t start your best pitcher in Denver for three games? Then you met Mahle stay out there and give up 5 runs in the 5th. Poor decisions.

Jomama
07-14-2019, 05:00 PM
Bell should be fired for his team's poor defense alone.

GAC
07-14-2019, 05:00 PM
8 runs in 4 1/3 innings still no call to the pen.

Clown show

Can some of that credit be given to bad, shoddy defense? They're playing like their heads are up their collective butts!

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 05:01 PM
Sure, I agree. But it's not like going to the bullpen guarantees success. You could just as easily see the bullpen blow up and then you've not only lost this game but severely hamstrung yourself for the impending Cubs series.

I think Mahle should have been yanked sooner, but I get the thought process. He hadn't thrown a lot of pitches and had put up 3 scoreless innings. Bell showed him some faith, and he crapped out that inning.

Yep. The thought process is what every manager in MLB would have done. Just stuck with him maybe two guys too long.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:02 PM
Yet you waited till they got someone up in the bullpen to complain about nobody warming up in the bullpen

Do you want me to give a running commentary on the entire game? I get being Mr. Positive is your gimmick, but it must get old defending all of Bell's bad moves.

ochoa30
07-14-2019, 05:02 PM
The defense has been atrocious for sure. That's really the one thing you cant do in Coors. Extra outs and bases are just not gonna cut it there.

Jomama
07-14-2019, 05:02 PM
Looks like The 3rd time through the order is catching up to Mahle

The first time through the order wasn't a picnic either.

GAC
07-14-2019, 05:02 PM
Bell should be fired for his team's poor defense alone.

This is how I can tell I'm on a Cincinnati forum! LOL

RR1971
07-14-2019, 05:03 PM
Too many fans think the manager should manage EVERY GAME like Game 7 of the World Series.

Getting somebody up and making a pitching change happens in just about all 162 games. Nothing game 7 about that.

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Do you want me to give a running commentary on the entire game? I get being Mr. Positive is your gimmick, but it must get old defending all of Bell's bad moves.
I think it’s fair to assume we all thought someone was warming up until we saw they weren’t.

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 05:05 PM
Getting somebody up and making a pitching change happens in just about all 162 games. Nothing game 7 about that.

The idea there is he's going to get a couple of outs, you get back in the dugout, and you bring in somebody to start the next inning. It can unravel in a hurry, which it did. He was late making the change, but not egregiously. You can't go to Chicago with a decimated bullpen. His logic was sound.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 05:07 PM
Do you want me to give a running commentary on the entire game? I get being Mr. Positive is your gimmick, but it must get old defending all of Bell's bad moves.

I just don’t give up on a game until it’s over and constantly complain about everything.
If you don’t like what I post use the ignore button

malcontent
07-14-2019, 05:08 PM
If Wood can crawl to the mound, I'd give him Mahle's spot.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:08 PM
90 games is enough time to make an evaluation, and Bell doesn't have a feel for in game managing. I think he's handled the off field stuff well(like the drama with Mahle), but when it comes game time I'm unimpressed.

North
07-14-2019, 05:08 PM
I think we overrated Mahle, just slightly.

Dunno... in the pregame show they were talking about how Mahle should have stayed in AAA but since Wood didn't come around they had to keep him up.

Rolando
07-14-2019, 05:08 PM
The idea there is he's going to get a couple of outs, you get back in the dugout, and you bring in somebody to start the next inning. It can unravel in a hurry, which it did. He was late making the change, but not egregiously. You can't go to Chicago with a decimated bullpen. His logic was sound.
I don't know how sound the logic was what's the first two guys go on base you need to pull him

dsterry
07-14-2019, 05:08 PM
This is not meant to troll Mahle, but given Sims' success at Lousiville this year, why hasn't be been given another shot since his start against the Pirates?

RR1971
07-14-2019, 05:09 PM
The idea there is he's going to get a couple of outs, you get back in the dugout, and you bring in somebody to start the next inning. It can unravel in a hurry, which it did. He was late making the change, but not egregiously. You can't go to Chicago with a decimated bullpen. His logic was sound.
The pen just had 4 days off. Ihleasias hasn’t pitched in a week. Why are they all of a sudden going to be work out. Bell has taken the starters out after 5 innings all year. Wearing the pen out before Chicago is a laughable excuse in my opinion. The games all count the same, this one is just as important.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:10 PM
I just don’t give up on a game until it’s over and constantly complain about everything.
If you don’t like what I post use the ignore button

I don't dismiss people with different opinions than mine. That's one of the reasons why social media is AIDS.

50YrRedsFan
07-14-2019, 05:10 PM
Sell, Sell, Sell. I would make EVERYONE available except Castillo and Senzel.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 05:10 PM
Ervin reminds everyone the game isn't over yet

WVRedsFan
07-14-2019, 05:11 PM
Hopefully, Mahle will be replaced by Gordon soon. 4 innings and 12 hits just doesn't do it. The occasional good start is not going to work if we expect to get in contention or even if we aren't.

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I don't know how sound the logic was what's the first two guys go on base you need to pull him

yes

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 05:12 PM
90 games is enough time to make an evaluation, and Bell doesn't have a feel for in game managing. I think he's handled the off field stuff well(like the drama with Mahle), but when it comes game time I'm unimpressed.
Eh, not really. I became one of Price's biggest critics, and even I gave him a full pass for 2014 before I started getting on him in 2015 (pretty much right away, the Kevin Gregg call on Opening Day was what did it for me).

There's never going to be a manager I fully agree with, I just want someone with some consistency who uses some understandable reasoning for his decisions. If this game was a month ago and Bell left Mahle out there that long with an effective bullpen waiting in the wings, I'd be saying he foolishly threw this one away. But given the circumstances of how the bullpen has been of late and the fact that they play tomorrow, I understand this call even if I would have given Mahle less rope.

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 05:12 PM
Pity Scooter doesn't want to play

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:12 PM
Now we're seeing why Mahle shouldn't have been left to get his brains beat out. Here comes more runs lol.

malcontent
07-14-2019, 05:12 PM
90 games is enough time to make an evaluation, and Bell doesn't have a feel for in game managing.
Long enough for us, LOL. Reds FO gonna need years. Bell could be a diamond-in-the-rough, you know.

I'm confident they'll eventually arrive at our position.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 05:13 PM
Hopefully, Mahle will be replaced by Gordon soon. 4 innings and 12 hits just doesn't do it. The occasional good start is not going to work if we expect to get in contention or even if we aren't.

Ah yes, Gordon. That pitcher we all know and love.

50YrRedsFan
07-14-2019, 05:14 PM
Long enough for us, LOL. Reds FO gonna need years. David could be a diamond-in-the-rough, you know.

I'm confident they'll eventually arrive at our position.

When we're all dead and gone.

North
07-14-2019, 05:17 PM
Gawd I love Texas Leaguer hits!

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 05:18 PM
The pen just had 4 days off. Ihleasias hasn’t pitched in a week. Why are they all of a sudden going to be work out. Bell has taken the starters out after 5 innings all year. Wearing the pen out before Chicago is a laughable excuse in my opinion. The games all count the same, this one is just as important.

Nobody ever said or implied it wasn't. His aim was to eke one more inning out of Mahle. They just strung a lot of hits together in a flurry. He waited a couple of guys too long and it got to 10-5 instead of maybe just 7-5.

Four innings of pen in Denver is potentially still a lot, and in the back of his head, he's counting on his guys playing add-on against Colorado's terrible pen. This could wind up being a marathon today. The logic he used is what every manager in baseball would have tried to do. The execution was just too late.

klw
07-14-2019, 05:19 PM
Ah yes, Gordon. That pitcher we all know and love.
Gordon Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.

Ron Madden
07-14-2019, 05:20 PM
Hip Hip Jose!!!

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 05:20 PM
another insane game.

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:20 PM
The execution was just too late.

That's the key.

10-9 now lol

adkindo
07-14-2019, 05:21 PM
Peraza looking to return to last years form in the 2nd half

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 05:21 PM
trade Peraza to the Rockies right now for...?

Trademark
07-14-2019, 05:21 PM
What a crazy series

BluegrassRedleg
07-14-2019, 05:21 PM
It's almost as if Bell knew a couple more touchdowns were gonna be scored today. ;)

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 05:22 PM
Viva Peraza

JaxRed
07-14-2019, 05:22 PM
Gordon Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.

Easy preppy

Big Klu
07-14-2019, 05:22 PM
Peraza has tied Mariano Duncan for 12th place among Hispanic players on the Reds' all-time home run list.


1. Tony Perez (Cuba) - 287
2. Eugenio Suarez (Venezuela) - 115
3. Dave Concepcion (Venezuela) - 101
4. Leo Cardenas (Cuba) - 72
5. Edwin Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 71
6. Wily Mo PeŮa (Dom. Rep.) - 54
7. Cesar Geronimo (Dom. Rep.) - 44
8. Felipe Lopez (Puerto Rico) - 41
9. Bo Diaz (Venezuela) - 39
10. Javier Valentin (Puerto Rico) - 34
11. Cesar CedeŮo (Dom. Rep.) - 30
12. Mariano Duncan (Dom. Rep.) - 28
12. Jose Peraza (Venezuela) - 28
14. Jose Guillen (Dom. Rep.) - 27
15. Juan Castro (Mexico) - 25
16. Ramon Hernandez (Venezuela) - 24
17. Eduardo Perez (USA/Puerto Rico) - 23
18. Yasiel Puig (Cuba) - 21
19. Alex Ochoa (USA/Cuba) - 20
20. Luis QuiŮones (Puerto Rico) - 19
20. Benito Santiago (Puerto Rico) - 19
20. D'Angelo Jimenez (Dom. Rep.) - 19
20. Alex Gonzalez (Venezuela) - 19
24. Juan Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 16
25. Miguel Cairo (Venezuela) - 13
26. Roberto Kelly (Panama) - 12
27. Ruben Rivera (Panama) - 10

InsaneinthBrame
07-14-2019, 05:23 PM
I think Peraza should be starting SS. He has upside unlike Iglesias. Plus he has been out hitting him the last 10 weeks

Equinox
07-14-2019, 05:23 PM
Whoever comes out of the pen will tell us if the Reds are trying to win this game or not.

North
07-14-2019, 05:23 PM
What's the over/under on this game?

NebraskaRed
07-14-2019, 05:23 PM
uh oh

Tadasimha
07-14-2019, 05:24 PM
Winker just pulled something on that swing

JCM11
07-14-2019, 05:24 PM
Well if that's an oblique we're going to be seeing more Ervin for sure.

WVRedsFan
07-14-2019, 05:24 PM
Ah yes, Gordon. That pitcher we all know and love.

Damn. Still struggling from last night. I meant Wood. Apologies. Fatigue.

Tom Servo
07-14-2019, 05:25 PM
I think Peraza should be starting SS. He has upside unlike Iglesias. Plus he has been out hitting him the last 10 weeks
Definitely more offensive upside, but I think one has to admit at this point that Peraza ultimately isn't going to cut it defensively at SS. He gave it his best shot last year, but it's just not his position.