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WrongVerb
07-16-2019, 02:03 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_nZOefX4AATaH8?format=jpg&name=small

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 02:10 PM
Looks good, letís win

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 02:11 PM
Ervin, Gennett and Iglesias ready off the bench

cumberlandreds
07-16-2019, 02:15 PM
Alec Mills is making his first start of the season for the Cubs tonight in replacement for the injured Cole Hamels. So this will either be an easy touch for the Reds or he will totally shut them down. Which will it be?

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 03:22 PM
Alec Mills is making his first start of the season for the Cubs tonight in replacement for the injured Cole Hamels. So this will either be an easy touch for the Reds or he will totally shut them down. Which will it be?

Hoping a non Jeff Pico performance

Bourgeois Zee
07-16-2019, 03:26 PM
I like that Farmer is getting some reps behind the plate. His swing looks solid, and I enjoy that quick bat.

I don't like that Casali was hit last night, had to come out of the game, and now Farmer is catching.

gagliano
07-16-2019, 04:05 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_nZOefX4AATaH8?format=jpg&name=small

beat those knuckle draggers!

PepperJack
07-16-2019, 04:46 PM
I wouldn't mind Farmer taking the catcher spot and running with it at all.

membengal
07-16-2019, 05:06 PM
Hoping a non Jeff Pico performance

I am still mad about that.

Bourgeois Zee
07-16-2019, 05:39 PM
I wouldn't mind Farmer taking the catcher spot and running with it at all.

Oh, I think Casali's been solid and would be fine as a platoon mate. He's a near league-average bat who holds his own defensively (3.6 FRAA this season).

Farmer will hopefully improve on his numbers with more regular playing time.

He certainly couldn't be much worse than what Barnhart's given the Reds so far this season. (Or last.)

JCM11
07-16-2019, 05:43 PM
Dodged a bullet with the Winker injury. I was all but sure that was an oblique when it happened.

DocRed
07-16-2019, 06:25 PM
I wouldn't mind Farmer taking the catcher spot and running with it at all.

I agree, give the kid a shot and see what he can do, he just may surprise. I think we already know what Tucker and Casali's ceilings are.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 06:53 PM
Oh, I think Casali's been solid and would be fine as a platoon mate. He's a near league-average bat who holds his own defensively (3.6 FRAA this season).

Farmer will hopefully improve on his numbers with more regular playing time.

He certainly couldn't be much worse than what Barnhart's given the Reds so far this season. (Or last.)

Sounds like another Barnhart hater.
I agree with everything in the post except the last two words. "(or last)".
Barnhart's 2018 wasn't that bad. .248 AVG .699 OPS While I agree that Barnhart has been awful this year, the question is: Why? He was one of the top catchers in MLB in 2017 and very solid in 15 and 16. Now some people on this board want to throw him in the trash. Injury? Maybe.. Slump? Maybe.. But a guy usually doesn't just fall off of the cliff that this in the prime age years. I would hate to see the Reds give up on him. Many guys go through a few months of poor production and then come back to to be productive.
See Votto, See Puig.

64red
07-16-2019, 07:09 PM
Since it took Bell so long to get Farmer in at catcher, I assumed he would be a disaster. Pleasantly surprised by his play.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 07:57 PM
Good point by LeCure....need to watch the up the middle defense. It needs to be good but not many regulars there

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:07 PM
Wow Almora robs Vottto

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 08:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_nZOefX4AATaH8?format=jpg&name=small

So it looks like there is a change in the lineup. Farmer and DeSclafani have been flip-flopped in the order.

Boo.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 08:08 PM
Wow Almora robs Vottto

What a catch..

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 08:08 PM
Great Catch to take extra bases away from Votto

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:08 PM
Really good play by Almora but confused to why he slid?

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Suarez homers again

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Catch that Almora !!!

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Geno kills the Cubs!!!

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Boom

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 277
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
23. Eugenio Suarez - 117
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

membengal
07-16-2019, 08:10 PM
Really good play by Almora but confused to why he slid?

The brick wall.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:11 PM
Silver Fox

Burger Beer
07-16-2019, 08:11 PM
Can I say it...

hey-you-hiney-hole! :)

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:11 PM
Suarez now tied with Yelich for most 1st inning homers this year (8)

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:12 PM
Puig hit by the pitch

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:12 PM
63 mph lol

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:12 PM
Now Dietrich is hit by a pitch. 19th of the season

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:13 PM
89 mph

Guessing thatís the biggest gap if speed on consecutive hit by pitch pitches

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 08:13 PM
Dietrich. LOL. That was very close to being a strike.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:14 PM
Silver Fox steals the mic

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:14 PM
Suarez is hilarious

adkindo
07-16-2019, 08:14 PM
why is Ervin not playing?

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 08:14 PM
WTG Nick!!!

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:14 PM
Senzel singles in a run

JCM11
07-16-2019, 08:16 PM
Nice start to the game. Makes Almora's great catch ever more important.

I'm surprised Senzel didn't score on that.

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:16 PM
Peraza doubles off the wall. Run scores. Senzel thrown out at the plate. 3-0 Reds!

adkindo
07-16-2019, 08:16 PM
just a good play by the Cubs

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:17 PM
No way he broke on contact....no damn way

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 08:17 PM
Nice stroke by Peraza!

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 08:17 PM
Senzel singles in a run

Tremendous hit and run play with Senzel hitting it in the vacated 3rd base hole as the runner from 2nd was approaching!

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:17 PM
just a good play by the Cubs

Not buying

Iíll apologize if wrong but I say no way Senzel got a secondary lead and broke on contact

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:18 PM
Had no where to slide. How is that not blocking the plate? New rule makes no sense but good inning none the less

NCReds
07-16-2019, 08:18 PM
Offense looking strong early, just hate to see the cubs go in with momentum

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:19 PM
Not buying

I’ll apologize if wrong but I say no way Senzel got a secondary lead and broke on contact

You would think with his speed that may be the case but it was a very quick relay so it's hard to know for sure

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 08:20 PM
They got the ball to home plate pretty damn quick

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:24 PM
You would think with his speed that may be the case but it was a very quick relay so it's hard to know for sure

I timed his 2 triples vs Rockies. He was home to 3rd in 11.21 and 11.18

I timed him just now from contact of bat (on 1st but leading off and assumed secondary lead)...so about 15 less feet of running with secondary momentum instead of standstill and I had him at 10.46

The Cubs indeed played it very well but Iím 100% skeptical he didnít either hesitate or not bust it from contact.

JCM11
07-16-2019, 08:25 PM
Leave Senzel in CF.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 08:25 PM
Nicely run down, Nick

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:25 PM
Nice running catch by Senzel. 3-0 Reds after 1

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:25 PM
Nice jump by Senzel [emoji3]

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 08:27 PM
Not buying

I’ll apologize if wrong but I say no way Senzel got a secondary lead and broke on contact

When Senzel came into the picture half way to 2B, the ball was 4/13 of the way to hitting the wall. CF fielded it off the wall with all his momentum going toward the infield and a great relay put the ball right on the money to tag him as he reached for the plate on a good head first slide to the outside of the plate. Great play all around by the defense.

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 08:29 PM
When Senzel came into the picture half way to 2B, the ball was 4/13 of the way to hitting the wall. CF fielded it off the wall with all his momentum going toward the infield and a great relay put the ball right on the money to tag him as he reached for the plate on a good head first slide to the outside of the plate. Great play all around by the defense.

Of course, it was also another example of the "pitcher batting 8th" coming back to bite them in the butt. If Kyle Farmer had been on deck instead of Anthony DeSclafani, then J.R. House may have held Senzel at 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:31 PM
Winker hit in the foot. 3rd HBP already tonight

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:32 PM
Votto flies out. 3-0 Reds mid 2nd

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:33 PM
Of course, it was also another example of the "pitcher batting 8th" coming back to bite them in the butt. If Kyle Farmer had been on deck instead of Anthony DeSclafani, then J.R. House may have held Senzel at 3rd.

Except they would have just walked Farmer with runners on second and third so this logic doesnt hold up. It really doesnt matter all that much if it all.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 08:34 PM
I was late turning this one on today. Rule No. 1 should be "Never miss a Reds first inning."

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:36 PM
Lead off hit by Rizzo

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:36 PM
Tony Rizzo with another hit

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:36 PM
Garcia homers. 3-2 Reds

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 08:37 PM
No lead ever safe.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:37 PM
That kid has a good swing

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:37 PM
Anything but a fastball to that guy

Red Raindog
07-16-2019, 08:38 PM
18th HR given up by Desclafani in under 90 innings


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Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:39 PM
Heyward strikes out swinging

Rantly
07-16-2019, 08:40 PM
Except they would have just walked Farmer with runners on second and third so this logic doesnt hold up. It really doesnt matter all that much if it all.

Then why bother doing it? Plus in your scenario you get pitchers spot out of the way so top of the order next inning

TheBigLebowski
07-16-2019, 08:41 PM
The question remains, does Wood bump Disco or Mahle??

I’m honestly not sure. I wish he could replace both.

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:41 PM
Almora lines a hit off Desclafaniís glove

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 08:42 PM
Almora frustrates me. Seems like he's another one of those guys who's better against the Reds than other teams.

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:43 PM
Then why bother doing it?

This I can't answer. To me if you have a guy with some speed to hit 9th it makes sense but otherwise I really dont know.

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:43 PM
The question remains, does Wood bump Disco or Mahle??

Iím honestly not sure. I wish he could replace both.

At this point I would lean toward him replacing Mahle but I agree it is close.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 08:43 PM
Haha

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:44 PM
Maldonado lines into a DP

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 08:44 PM
4-yessiree-3!

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 08:44 PM
At this point I would lean toward him replacing Mahle but I agree it is close.

Mahle has options and has been trending very poorly. Disco has actually been pretty solid as of late. Wont be a very hard decision for the Reds.

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 08:48 PM
I timed his 2 triples vs Rockies. He was home to 3rd in 11.21 and 11.18

I timed him just now from contact of bat (on 1st but leading off and assumed secondary lead)...so about 15 less feet of running with secondary momentum instead of standstill and I had him at 10.46

The Cubs indeed played it very well but I’m 100% skeptical he didn’t either hesitate or not bust it from contact.

270' x 10.46/11.195 = 252'
So that figures him just 18' off of first at contact. How far do you think you should be off 1B when the ball comes across the plate with your momentum going towards 2nd so you do not get picked off if the catcher gets it?

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:50 PM
2 out walk to Dietrich

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:51 PM
FC ends the inning.3-2 Reds mid 3rd

RR1971
07-16-2019, 08:52 PM
Mahle has options and has been trending very poorly. Disco has actually been pretty solid as of late. Wont be a very hard decision for the Reds.
Easy call. Mahle is out of rotation.

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 08:52 PM
Really good play by Almora but confused to why he slid?

Afraid of that super solid brick wall, not like a modern fence!

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 08:55 PM
unless my eyes deceive me, that was straight up in the air

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:55 PM
Afraid of that super solid brick wall, not like a modern fence!

He was only 11/13th to the wall

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 08:57 PM
3 Ks for Disco. 3-2 Reds after 3

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 08:57 PM
He was called only 11/13th to the wall

Got it in less than 8 parsecs

HammerTime
07-16-2019, 08:58 PM
Mahle has options and has been trending very poorly. Disco has actually been pretty solid as of late. Wont be a very hard decision for the Reds.

Odd man out to the bullpen maybe?

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 08:59 PM
Got it in less than 8 parsecs

Had him at 8.05

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 09:00 PM
I like how Suarez was still a platinum blonde there. :laugh:

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:00 PM
Then why bother doing it? Plus in your scenario you get pitchers spot out of the way so top of the order next inning

Pitcher batting 8th keeps the inning from being handicapped by an easy lead-off out by the pitcher batting 9th when the #9 spot leads off an inning.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 09:00 PM
Got it in less than 8 parsecs

"She's got it where it counts."

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:01 PM
Disco singles to left

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:01 PM
Disco hit

/beegees

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:01 PM
Disco Ball! Catch the fever!

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:03 PM
Odd man out to the bullpen maybe?

I think you have to keep him stretched out in AAA in case of injury

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:04 PM
Someone tell Thom and Jim that in high school I played 7 different positions in a double header

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:04 PM
He was only 11/13th to the wall

That 4/13 was 4 mississippis when he was half way to 2nd out of the 13 it took in slow motion from the ball hitting the bat until it hit the wall!

RiverRat13
07-16-2019, 09:04 PM
I think you have to keep him stretched out in AAA in case of injury

This. And to work on what he's struggling with. There are zero MLB starting options coming from the farm anytime soon. Mahle's development is pretty important.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:06 PM
That 4/13 was 4 mississippis when he was half way to 2nd out of the 13 it took in slow motion from the ball hitting the bat until it hit the wall!

Oh...I was doing Maineís

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:13 PM
Disco tried each of 3 different pitches after going 0-2 to Rizzo and overthrew them all, then ended up walking him on another overthrown fastball.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:13 PM
Tony D walks Tony R

Rantly
07-16-2019, 09:14 PM
Pitcher batting 8th keeps the inning from being handicapped by an easy lead-off out by the pitcher batting 9th when the #9 spot leads off an inning.
True, WHEN the 9th spot leads off the order which is rare if there are runners on base in the previous inning and the 8th place batter is a position player and they walk to get to the pitcher to make final out...nevermind I guess it doesn’t really matter :beerme:

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:16 PM
Textbook

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:17 PM
Rizzo out on interference running into Dietrich

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:17 PM
Quit arguing.

Obvious interference.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
Throw Joe Maddon's ass out of there

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
That is a really smart move there by Dietrich to force that call

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
Rizzo knows the rules

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
Such an obvious call. Sit down you old fool.

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
Love it! Haha!

( I think Dietrich knew what he was doing)

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:18 PM
Dietrich made sure of the interference a bit. Right call, anyway

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 09:19 PM
I am very impressed with Dietrich's gamesmanship! He is a very savvy ballplayer!

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:21 PM
Heyward fouls out on a 3-0 pitch. 3-2 Reds after 4

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:21 PM
Rizzo made into a doofus multiple nights in a row. I absolutely love it.


He's such a little weasel

Fil3232
07-16-2019, 09:21 PM
Christmas came early for the Creeper!!

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:21 PM
Love it! Haha!

( I think Dietrich knew what he was doing)

Yes, instead of having to make a great play for a tough out at 1st, and the runner is left on 2nd, he gets the lead runner out.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:21 PM
Heyward just bailed disco out big time, thank you!!!!!

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:24 PM
How much $ is Welsh paying Jim Day to advertise his baseball rules website?

Rantly
07-16-2019, 09:25 PM
Someone tell Thom and Jim that in high school I played 7 different positions in a double header

Which 2 did you not play?

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:26 PM
Nice pitch

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:26 PM
Votto looking for another walk.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:26 PM
Awfully generous call to ring up Suarez


Bring on the robots

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:28 PM
After that shaky 1st Mills is rolling against the Reds

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:28 PM
Catcher and SS

Iím a lefty. They bunted on me while I was at 3rd and I got em.. I played 1 inning at 2nd and made one of my best plays ever.

Didnít have a lefty catchers mitt

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:28 PM
Votto officially slumping again. I'm starting to think hes pretty much done. You have to wonder how long he would drag it out. I think he probably gives it next year and then will walk away if he doesnt bounce back.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:29 PM
After that shaky 1st Mills is rolling against the Reds

I really had high hopes for our offense against this guy after the first, but nothing since.

Rantly
07-16-2019, 09:29 PM
I am very impressed with Dietrich's gamesmanship! He is a very savvy ballplayer!


Yes and we would hate him if he played for Cards.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:31 PM
Votto officially slumping again. I'm starting to think hes pretty much done. You have to wonder how long he would drag it out. I think he probably gives it next year and then will walk away if he doesnt bounce back.

He did get robbed of a double to be fair

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:32 PM
He did get robbed of a double to be fair

True and it's not like he is horrible. I just dont think he can live with being mediocre.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:33 PM
8 pitch inning for Disco

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:33 PM
That was a quick 8 pitch inning for Disco

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:36 PM
Dietrich is a walking bruise

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:36 PM
Now 20 HBP for Dietrich and the 4th by Mills tonight

WrongVerb
07-16-2019, 09:37 PM
Dietrich moved into that one a bit.

Why is Senzel hitting 6th?

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 09:38 PM
As long as I remember the Reds have always had trouble facing soft tossing junk ball pitchers

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:38 PM
Dang it

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:38 PM
Shoot darn Peraza

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:38 PM
That 5-4-3 DP hurts

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:39 PM
So why didnít we bunt peraza..?

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:39 PM
Why cant Peraza take a dang pitch ever. You have to know you are not gonna see a fastball after the first AB. Guy has seen 3 pitches today. Just not a smart ball player.

TheBigLebowski
07-16-2019, 09:40 PM
Peraza is not good. I hope he’s playing elsewhere soon.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:40 PM
Why cant Peraza take a dang pitch ever. You have to know you are not gonna see a fastball after the first AB. Guy has seen 3 pitches today. Just not a smart ball player.

And the frustrating thing is he could win batting titles if he would adopt a smarter approach.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:40 PM
So why didn’t we bunt peraza..?
It looks like the wiser choice now.
I would have bunted him, even though the Pitcher is up next.

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:41 PM
That is a big missed scoring chance

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 09:41 PM
And the "pitcher batting 8th" bites us in the butt again.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:42 PM
And the "pitcher batting 8th" bites us in the butt again.

It sure seems like it hurts us more than it helps. The whole "second leadoff hitter" novelty hasn't really rang true.

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:42 PM
And the frustrating thing is he could win batting titles if he would adopt a smarter approach.

Agreed. He could be very good. We saw the potential last year but I just dont think he will ever reach it fully. Atleast not with the Reds.

RR1971
07-16-2019, 09:42 PM
Why cant Peraza take a dang pitch ever. You have to know you are not gonna see a fastball after the first AB. Guy has seen 3 pitches today. Just not a smart ball player.
I’ve been a critic of Peraza but in his defense he’s still a young player and could get better. He has shown signs of being really good at the plate. The downside is he’s in his 5th MLB season.

Kingspoint
07-16-2019, 09:43 PM
And the "pitcher batting 8th" bites us in the butt again.
On the bright side, the Pitcher's spot is gone with the heart of the order coming up.

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:43 PM
And the "pitcher batting 8th" bites us in the butt again.

Makes no sense at all.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:43 PM
It looks like the wiser choice now.
I would have bunted him, even though the Pitcher is up next.

I understand heís been exceptionally well at the plate as of late, but still doesnít surprise me one bit that he grounds into a DP in a big AB

RR1971
07-16-2019, 09:44 PM
It sure seems like it hurts us more than it helps. The whole "second leadoff hitter" novelty hasn't really rang true.
Just like the shift has seemed to hurt us more. Maybe we just remember the bad ones more.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:44 PM
Disco's sixth inning. Usually a hump to get over.

KronoRed
07-16-2019, 09:45 PM
Seems like the pitcher batting 8th thing happens most vs the Cubs, like we're trying to top their manager.

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:45 PM
It sure seems like it hurts us more than it helps. The whole "second leadoff hitter" novelty hasn't really rang true.

Especially when the “second leadoff hitter” is almost always a slow footed catcher.

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
It sure seems like it hurts us more than it helps. The whole "second leadoff hitter" novelty hasn't really rang true.

I guess I have never understood why you would bat the worst hitter in the lineup anywhere but 9th, especially in the NL where there is a significant gulf between the worst hitter and the second-worst hitter.

TheBigLebowski
07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I don’t get the benefit to this P batting 8th strategy. Never have.

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 09:47 PM
Seems like the pitcher batting 8th thing happens most vs the Cubs, like we're trying to top their manager.

If we really want to top their manager, then we should bat our pitcher 7th.

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Puig has looked really good out there.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Go to your room Baez.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Puig!! Nice Catch....

Ron Madden
07-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Puig is kinda good in RF

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Great catch, Yas!

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Agreed. He could be very good. We saw the potential last year but I just dont think he will ever reach it fully. Atleast not with the Reds.

Yea, he has the feeling of a future trivia question "what player to win a batting title in the last five years spent their first 4 full seasons in Cincinnati?".

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Drat!

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Ugh. Bryant


Tie game

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Dang

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 09:50 PM
This Reds team has fun.

Tie game. Bryant homers

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 09:50 PM
I hate to say it, but I saw that coming before Disco ever let go of that pitch.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:50 PM
Disco was due for a gopher ball.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:50 PM
Son of a b

adkindo
07-16-2019, 09:50 PM
just knew that was coming....thankful the bases were empty

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:51 PM
Story of the season for Desclafani.... 5 2/3

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:51 PM
Reds really should have scored more against the Cubs starter. Hopefully they can get to the pen.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:51 PM
I dislike Bryant almost as much as Rizzo.

They remind me of every turdy "bro" I ever knew.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 09:51 PM
Well, that felt like a much better outing than what he is going to walk away from. Two lapses in location/concentration.

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:52 PM
Couldn't make it thru the 6th with a 1 run lead tonight!

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:52 PM
We have seen this scenario from Disco many times before.
Good pitching for 5 or 6 innings, then the HR ball..

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:52 PM
Watch Peralta come in and walk these 2 lefties.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:52 PM
I hate to say it, but I saw that coming before Disco ever let go of that pitch.

I was worried leavin that runner at third would come back to bite them.


And here's Wandy. Oh boy

malcontent
07-16-2019, 09:52 PM
Bell got two outs and a tater from Disco, after not hitting for him with a guy on 3B.

Questionable, especially hitting him 8th.

stein1214
07-16-2019, 09:53 PM
Story of the season for Doesclafani.... 5 2/3

Seems like any time he allows even one guy to reach in the 6th inning it’s an automatic hook.

Tom Servo
07-16-2019, 09:54 PM
Well, that felt like a much better outing than what he is going to walk away from. Two lapses in location/concentration.
Disco did fine overall, heís better than Alec Mills and itís too bad the Reds offense forgot that after the 1st inning.

NCReds
07-16-2019, 09:54 PM
I think Reds pitching likes getting behind in counts.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Ugh Winker can't make the play


Rizzo ground rule double


I hate this

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Bell got two outs and a tater from Disco, after not hitting for him with a guy on 3B.

Questionable, especially hitting him 8th.

Not letting him hit.
I don't like the 8 spot either.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Minus-infinity dWAR

adkindo
07-16-2019, 09:56 PM
Winker is just terrible in LF.....rather see Ervin or Peraza out there

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:56 PM
Bell got two outs and a tater from Disco, after not hitting for him with a guy on 3B. Questionable.

I wonder if he would have hit for him if the bases were loaded and none out. I'm guessing he would have.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 09:56 PM
Winker drifted to time it instead of getting v there quickly and running through it

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 09:56 PM
Winker just doesn't cover a lot of ground in the OF.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Garcia K's

Tie ball game 3-3 after 6

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Honestly I think even Adam Dunn catches that ball. That was pretty ugly. Guy just has very poor instincts and no foot speed to make up for it.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Generous but I will take it!

Get some, boys

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Wow. Gift call. The Glavine treatment. :eek:

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 09:59 PM
Wandy gets a bad break on the double, but a good one for the K!

RedlegsFanatic
07-16-2019, 10:03 PM
As a life long Redlegs Fanatic, I have tried so hard to like David Bell. To get him on my good side and give him the benefit of the doubt. But he just continues to make wrong move after wrong move. His "player ego first" style of managing is not my cup of tea. I would have absolutely 100% no questions asked bunted Peraza in the 6th and pinch hit for Disco. Yes he pitched ok and his pitch count as around 80. But the bottom of the 6th was the start of the 3rd time thru the order. That possible run or 2 in the 6th will prolly decide this game. If this game were at home, then yes leave Disco in for the 6th. But not at Wrigley, not with only a 1 run lead and the top due up for the 3rd time. This team would be leading the Central if you switched managers in the dugouts tonight. Just my opinion.

Tom Servo
07-16-2019, 10:05 PM
and pinch hit for Disco. Yes he pitched ok and his pitch count as around 80.
People crushed him on here for removing him in that exact type of situation like two weeks ago.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 10:06 PM
92 mph in the LHB kill zone for Votto. Fouls it off. :(

Tom Servo
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
Heyward doesn't come down with the catch for what seems like the first time ever against the Reds.

coryfly
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
People crushed him on here for removing him in that exact type of situation like two weeks ago.

Yeah, I have many issues with some of Bell's decisions but leaving Disco in there was something I felt everyone would have agreed with.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
Joey!


Finally Heyward doesn't make a play

Reds Fanatic
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
2 out double by Votto

mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
pinch runner?

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
Nice job getting to second there by Joey

The Operator
07-16-2019, 10:07 PM
Come on Geno

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 10:08 PM
Votto with a double, but no RBI. (Not sure it's a legit double)

#notelite

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 10:08 PM
Not today, Heyward. Not today.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 10:08 PM
Puig wouldíve had it

RedlegsFanatic
07-16-2019, 10:08 PM
Although I was surprised and happy when he gave Iggy the wake up call and removed him from the closers role for a few games. I would have done it a month ago tho

Tom Servo
07-16-2019, 10:09 PM
uhhh that was strike 3 lol

The Operator
07-16-2019, 10:09 PM
Geno caught a break on ball 1 lol

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 10:09 PM
Holy smokes. Another break from the ump.

The Operator
07-16-2019, 10:09 PM
This ump is awful lol


But Geno K's very next pitch, the gift was not taken advantage of

WVRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:11 PM
Finally got cable and internet back.

Rantly
07-16-2019, 10:12 PM
Even jerky

coryfly
07-16-2019, 10:13 PM
Peralta does his job.

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 10:16 PM
Tonight's jinx brought to you by the good people at Lowes.

malcontent
07-16-2019, 10:16 PM
Would they have sent Senzel in the 1st if Disco wasn't hitting 8th?

BluegrassRedleg
07-16-2019, 10:16 PM
This ump is awful lol


But Geno K's very next pitch, the gift was not taken advantage of

Last night's guy called 8 Reds pitches in the strike zone balls, including 5 from Castillo.

WVRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:17 PM
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mhs95_06
07-16-2019, 10:19 PM
Would they have sent Senzel in the 1st if Disco wasn't hitting 8th?

yes

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 10:20 PM
Nice job Hughes.
Ground balls.

50YrRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:20 PM
Strop vs Puig, round 3

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 10:21 PM
Let's get a few off Strop!

malcontent
07-16-2019, 10:21 PM
I like Hughes late. Over Hernandez, that's for sure.

JCM11
07-16-2019, 10:22 PM
Would they have sent Senzel in the 1st if Disco wasn't hitting 8th?

Yes, it took two perfect throws and a great tag to barely get him.

Tom Servo
07-16-2019, 10:23 PM
Baez robs Dietrich

50YrRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:24 PM
Puig k's....Dietrich robbed by Baez

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 10:24 PM
Why should that be a 6-3? Baez was clearly playing the 2B position on that play.

50YrRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:25 PM
Reds with only 3 hits since the 1st inning.

JCM11
07-16-2019, 10:26 PM
It's not looking good for us scoring another run.

Ironman92
07-16-2019, 10:26 PM
Not a good feeling here

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 10:26 PM
Reds with only 3 hits since the 1st inning.

Typical of so many games this season.

757690
07-16-2019, 10:27 PM
Might have been mentioned earlier, but are the Cubs wearing throwback uniforms tonight?

ochoa30
07-16-2019, 10:27 PM
Damn, Nick smoked that but a nice running catch by Almora.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 10:28 PM
Might have been mentioned earlier, but are the Cubs wearing throwback uniforms tonight?

Yes, from 1969

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 10:29 PM
Might have been mentioned earlier, but are the Cubs wearing throwback uniforms tonight?

Yes, 1969 uniforms.

Maybe someone in the Reds' bullpen should unleash a black cat onto the field.

50YrRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:30 PM
Yes, from 1969

The year the Cubs choked away the pennant to the Mets.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 10:30 PM
Might have been mentioned earlier, but are the Cubs wearing throwback uniforms tonight?

Where is Kessinger and Billy Williams?

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 10:32 PM
Where is Kessinger and Billy Williams?

Williams threw out the first pitch along with several other players from that squad

Big Klu
07-16-2019, 10:33 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/8/4/0/64661840/black_cat_adb3gopk.gif

coryfly
07-16-2019, 10:33 PM
That is pretty nasty from Hughes there.

Tadasimha
07-16-2019, 10:33 PM
Man, the cubs as a whole are whiners but Schwarber is an absolute toddler out there

50YrRedsFan
07-16-2019, 10:34 PM
good movement on that strikeout pitch to Schwarber.

Kc61
07-16-2019, 10:36 PM
I like Hughes late. Over Hernandez, that's for sure.

Early this year Hernandez was better than Hughes.

Now Hughes is better than Hernandez.

The ebb and flow of relief pitching.

bigfoot52
07-16-2019, 10:36 PM
Williams threw out the first pitch along with several other players from that squad

Williams could hit.
As Brickhouse would say "Hey Hey!"

The Operator
07-16-2019, 10:38 PM
Last night's guy called 8 Reds pitches in the strike zone balls, including 5 from Castillo.

Technology is really exposing how poor they are with balls and strikes. We knew it all along but there's no question now.