7-17-2019 Reds at Cubs DAY GAME

[cumberlandreds]

Lets' win this series!

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Game time is 2:20 pm. This is the free game of the day on MLBTV.

[Ironman92]

Ervin is 17 for his last 29....I mean are all of those off of LH pitching?

He’s hitting .292 off of righties, not with good OPS but man he needs to be in the IMO while he’s so hot at the plate.

[Rolando]

Ervin is 17 for his last 29....I mean are all of those off of LH pitching?

He’s hitting .292 off of righties, not with good OPS but man he needs to be in the IMO while he’s so hot at the plate.

It's definitely mind-boggling especially what all Dietrich and do right now is get hit by a pitch. And I like Dietrich so I'm not knocking him as a player.

[Ironman92]

It's definitely mind-boggling especially what all Dietrich and do right now is get hit by a pitch. And I like Dietrich so I'm not knocking him as a player.

I like Dietrich too but he has more HBP than singles lol

Again, I don’t mind anyone in there starting but I do wish Ervin was in there, for really anyone.

If Votto, Puig or Suarez got a “day off”....and Ervin was in there, would that be a big deal to anyone ?

[Ironman92]

One thing I do hope is that Farmer has a game free of violent fouls off his face mask

[Ironman92]

Ervin is 17 for his last 29

Dietrich is 17 for his last 94

[Rolando]

I like Dietrich too but he has more HBP than singles lol

Again, I don’t mind anyone in there starting but I do wish Ervin was in there, for really anyone.

If Votto, Puig or Suarez got a “day off”....and Ervin was in there, would that be a big deal to anyone ?

I hope I didn't mess up my last Point I was agree with you on Irvin you should be playing right now. I definitely would have given Votto a day off.

[Ironman92]

I hope I didn't mess up my last Point I was agree with you on Irvin you should be playing right now. I definitely would have given Votto a day off.

No, not at all man

Go Reds

[JaxRed]

All of our lefties are struggling. I'd have probably had Ervin in LF. But if you're going to play a lefty in LF, why Dietrich and not Winker?

[Ironman92]

All of our lefties are struggling. I'd have probably had Ervin in LF. But if you're going to play a lefty in LF, why Dietrich and not Winker?

That’s a question as well and I feel the answer would be something like “we gotta keep getting guys like Winker and Dietrich regular at bats somehow”.....with no thought of Ervin

[Fil3232]

Good luck to Sonny today. He may have to go all 9 if he wants a win, the bullpen is in sorry shape.

[Rolando]

No, not at all man

Go Reds

Go Reds indeed! Let's take the series!

[cumberlandreds]

Update to the lineup per multiple tweets: Jaun Graterol is now starting at catcher and batting in Farmer's slot.

[cumberlandreds]

Yu Darvish is starting for the Cubs today. Since coming to the Cubs Darvish has not recorded a win in Wrigley. Let's hope that trend continues.

[Ron Madden]

That’s a question as well and I feel the answer would be something like “we gotta keep getting guys like Winker and Dietrich regular at bats somehow”.....with no thought of Ervin

Ya never know, they might be showcasing Dietrich to a trade partner.

[gagliano]

Ervin is 17 for his last 29....I mean are all of those off of LH pitching?

He’s hitting .292 off of righties, not with good OPS but man he needs to be in the IMO while he’s so hot at the plate.

they'll never listen. they'll put him in once we're down 7-0

[Ironman92]

Update to the lineup per multiple tweets: Jaun Graterol is now starting at catcher and batting in Farmer's slot.

Good. I don’t care how much he costs us either.

[gagliano]

All of our lefties are struggling. I'd have probably had Ervin in LF. But if you're going to play a lefty in LF, why Dietrich and not Winker?

no winker! no!

[Strikes Out Looking]

Ervin is 17 for his last 29

Dietrich is 17 for his last 94

Actual stats are so overrated - don't you realize batting average doesn't matter anymore...

[kaldaniels]

I still can’t get over the awful lighting and makeup on the Reds studio team. Public access level.

[CaiGuy]

I am happy that he is hitting well lately, but Ervin isn't very good...really don't get the call to give him a lot of playing time.

[Tom Servo]

I am happy that he is hitting we lately, but Ervin isn't very good...really don't get the call to give him a lot of playing time.
Baseball fans have never met a small sample size they didn't love. The confusing part to me about the big outcry for giving Ervin a lot of playing time is that Ervin DID get a lot of playing time last year down the stretch, and didn't do anything special. It's like a Men in Black brain wipe happened, I guess everyone was already watching Bengals preseason games by that point or something.

[BluegrassRedleg]

they'll never listen. they'll put him in once we're down 7-0

If Sonny Gray gives up 7 today, we're all just wasting our time here anyway.

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Baseball fans have never met a small sample size they didn't love. The confusing part to me about the big outcry for giving Ervin a lot of playing time is that Ervin DID get a lot of playing time last year down the stretch, and didn't do anything special. It's like a Men in Black brain wipe happened, I guess everyone was already watching Bengals preseason games by that point or something.

Thing about life, you can keep working at your craft and get better.

[bigfoot52]

Guess the Reds are going to look at third strikes today.

[Kc61]

Given Bell’s style, Ervin wasn’t even next in line to play.

Dietrich is in LF. If not, it would be Winker. Ervin isn’t even on the screen against this pitcher.

[Big Klu]

Going with the red alternates on the road again today. I don't mind it, as long as they don't overdo it. (And so far, they haven't.)

The Brewers, Pirates, Rockies, and Indians are examples of teams that wear their alternates entirely too often on the road. I'm not sure they even have gray jerseys anymore.

[Kc61]

Reds are 15-28 in day games. There’s no good reason for it, so the law of averages points to things evening out, beginning with this win today.

[JaxRed]

I prefer these to the grays.

[Alabama]

Reds are 15-28 in day games. There’s no good reason for it, so the law of averages points to things evening out, beginning with this win today.

Reason is they just aren’t a good baseball team. It’s not rocket science.

[adkindo]

I am happy that he is hitting well lately, but Ervin isn't very good...really don't get the call to give him a lot of playing time.

personally, I consider the guy that is hitting well better than the guy that is not on any given day. You say he is not very good...ok, maybe you are correct, but why not squeeze as much as you can get out of his hot streak if it is going to be short lived? Most of the other guys have had all year without a sniff of a hot streak.

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I recall Graterol from spring training....didn't he hit surprisingly well in Arizona this year?

[gagliano]

Actual stats are so overrated - don't you realize batting average doesn't matter anymore...

it rocks. batting avg, hr, rbi. that's all you need to know about a hitter. for a pitcher, w/l and era. thank you.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Going with the red alternates on the road again today. I don't mind it, as long as they don't overdo it. (And so far, they haven't.)

The Brewers, Pirates, Rockies, and Indians are examples of teams that wear their alternates entirely too often on the road. I'm not sure they even have gray jerseys anymore.

Red jersey and gray pants are a great look IMO.

[Kc61]

Reason is they just aren’t a good baseball team. It’s not rocket science.

Then why are they 28-21 in night games?

[Big Klu]

I prefer these to the grays.

I think the grays would look better if they got rid of the road cap (red w/black bill) and just wore the all-red cap both home and away.

Or if they really want a "road" cap, go with something like this (inspired by the caps from the late 50's and early 60's):

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[CaiGuy]

Thing about life, you can keep working at your craft and get better.

I mean...I guess, but you could say the same thing about the guys ahead of him on the depth chart, Winker and Dietrich. Those guys are better than him to start with, so I would bank on them being better moving forward as well.

I know that guys can improve and even exceed expectations, but I hate the fact that that is used as an argument every time when you have literally thousands of AB's of data that show that a guy isn't destined to be good.

[adkindo]

Then why are they 28-21 in night games?

half the lineup are vampires?

[JaxRed]

So is Alabama just a bad poster, or is he in a slump?

[Kc61]

half the lineup are vampires?

No, it’s special lighting where Reds guys are positioned.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I wish the FSO guys would mention Darvish hasn't won in his own ballpark a few more times. Because, of course, it cannot happen today.

[Alabama]

Then why are they 28-21 in night games?

Are you saying this is a good team?

[CaiGuy]

personally, I consider the guy that is hitting well better than the guy that is not on any given day. You say he is not very good...ok, maybe you are correct, but why not squeeze as much as you can get out of his hot streak if it is going to be short lived? Most of the other guys have had all year without a sniff of a hot streak.

Because with that line of thinking, you have to keep playing the guy after he cools off to find out if the hot streak is over. You don't get to know in advance how long it will last or how good he will be for how long.

I would rather play the guys who are likely to play the best starting today and moving forward. And to figure out who those guys are you need to look at all the information you have, not just the last couple of weeks.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I mean...I guess, but you could say the same thing about the guys ahead of him on the depth chart, Winker and Dietrich. Those guys are better than him to start with, so I would bank on them being better moving forward as well.

I know that guys can improve and even exceed expectations, but I hate the fact that that is used as an argument every time when you have literally thousands of AB's of data that show that a guy isn't destined to be good.

It applies to anyone you choose. That's the beauty of it. We don't have to be slaves to our past (and sample sizes). :)

[Kc61]

Are you saying this is a good team?

I’m saying it’s the top of the second, two outs, Darvish off to a hot start, but Reds only back one run.

[Kc61]

For anybody watching or following the game, DD vindicates the decision to play him today by getting his usual - HBP.

[malcontent]

Graterol with a 0.501 career OPS. Ouch.

And he gets the 8-hole when Casali and Farmer don't. LOL.

[Tom Servo]

it rocks. batting avg, hr, rbi. that's all you need to know about a hitter. for a pitcher, w/l and era. thank you.
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[adkindo]

Because with that line of thinking, you have to keep playing the guy after he cools off to find out if the hot streak is over. You don't get to know in advance how long it will last or how good he will be for how long.

I would rather play the guys who are likely to play the best starting today and moving forward. And to figure out who those guys are you need to look at all the information you have, not just the last couple of weeks.

a couple 0 for 4's would be a pretty good sign to me the streak has cooled....you know, a typical Winker game.

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For anybody watching or following the game, DD vindicates the decision to play him today by getting his usual - HBP.

wasn't that Scooter?

[Kc61]

1-0 Cubs, mid-second inning.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Graterol with a 0.501 career OPS. Ouch.

If he was playing against us, I'd be scared to death right now. That's 2018 Tony Wolters stuff.

[Kc61]

a couple 0 for 4's would be a pretty good sign to me the streak has cooled....you know, a typical Winker game.

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wasn't that Scooter?

Oops. Sorry, when I see an HBP I just assume it’s Dietrich. Yes, Scooter. That’s all he needs is to get hit by some pitched balls, LOL.

[Big Klu]

For anybody watching or following the game, DD vindicates the decision to play him today by getting his usual - HBP.

That was his tag-team partner, Scooter.

[Kc61]

Did the Reds make a forty man roster move for Graterol?

[JaxRed]

For anybody watching or following the game, DD vindicates the decision to play him today by getting his usual - HBP.

That was his identical twin Gennett.

[Big Klu]

Did the Reds make a forty man roster move for Graterol?

Evidently not. Were either of the Nick's (Travieso or Howard) on the 40-man roster before they were released?

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was his tag-team partner, Scooter.

What would DD and SG's tag-team name be?

[adkindo]

I can live with a few solo HR's.....one of the most exciting and least damaging play in baseball

[Kc61]

What would DD and SG's tag-team name be?

True Grit.

[Tracy Jones]

What would DD and SG's tag-team name be?

Obviously the Midnight Rockers

15098

[JaxRed]

Russell goes deep. I think it was caught by Ferris Buehler. That may already be too much to overcome. I was hoping for Gray shutout.

[TheBigLebowski]

I can live with a few solo HR's.....one of the most exciting and least damaging play in baseball

A solo HR isn't damaging?

[Ironman92]

Baseball fans have never met a small sample size they didn't love. The confusing part to me about the big outcry for giving Ervin a lot of playing time is that Ervin DID get a lot of playing time last year down the stretch, and didn't do anything special. It's like a Men in Black brain wipe happened, I guess everyone was already watching Bengals preseason games by that point or something.

I’m not saying he deserves even 50 starts this year...I’m saying baseball is hard and right now he’s hot, ride him while he is. Is that crazy?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Obviously the Midnight Rockers

15098

Because, you know, they have a bad record in day games. :p

[Big Klu]

True Grit.

I was thinking The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, but I like yours better.

[JaxRed]

I’m not saying he deserves even 50 starts this year...I’m saying baseball is hard and right now he’s hot, ride him while he is. Is that crazy?

No, you're absolutely right.

[Ironman92]

I mean...I guess, but you could say the same thing about the guys ahead of him on the depth chart, Winker and Dietrich. Those guys are better than him to start with, so I would bank on them being better moving forward as well.

I know that guys can improve and even exceed expectations, but I hate the fact that that is used as an argument every time when you have literally thousands of AB's of data that show that a guy isn't destined to be good.

Like Scooter?

[Tom Servo]

I’m not saying he deserves even 50 starts this year...I’m saying baseball is hard and right now he’s hot, ride him while he is. Is that crazy?
Didn't say it was crazy, just seems like much ado about nothing in the long run.

[Ironman92]

For anybody watching or following the game, DD vindicates the decision to play him today by getting his usual - HBP.

Huh? He struck out looking.

Scooter got hit

[Big Klu]

Jim and Chris were wondering who Graterol's backup might be, if Casali and Farmer are both unavailable.

I think it would be Dietrich.

[Tracy Jones]

Because, you know, they have a bad record in day games. :p

Lol exactly!

Or they are just guys I could easily see rocking mullets and zebra spandex

[Ironman92]

Oops. Sorry, when I see an HBP I just assume it’s Dietrich. Yes, Scooter. That’s all he needs is to get hit by some pitched balls, LOL.

I slowed it down twice and saw no sign of a HBP

[adkindo]

What would DD and SG's tag-team name be?

Storm....Thunder Dietrich and Lightning Gennett

[Tom Servo]

btw that HR by Russell was his 6th of this season, half of which have come against the Reds.

[adkindo]

A solo HR isn't damaging?

not as much as a 2 Run HR, 3 Run HR or a Grand Slam....in all seriousness, it often seems like they are not, and often happen randomly as opposed to innings where guys are getting doubles and driving in runs.

[Kc61]

12 consecutive scoreless innings for the Red team.

[Chip R]

Jim and Chris were wondering who Graterol's backup might be, if Casali and Farmer are both unavailable.

I think it would be Dietrich.

What specifically is wrong with Casali? I haven't heard anything about it here or anywhere else. I know he got nailed a few times on Monday and he was out last night but is it his shoulder, head or what?

[Tom Servo]

12 consecutive scoreless innings for the Red team.
is that bad


What specifically is wrong with Casali? I haven't heard anything about it here or anywhere else. I know he got nailed a few times on Monday and he was out last night but is it his shoulder, head or what?
knee inflammation

[BluegrassRedleg]

What specifically is wrong with Casali? I haven't heard anything about it here or anywhere else. I know he got nailed a few times on Monday and he was out last night but is it his shoulder, head or what?

I think they said knee.

[Big Klu]

What specifically is wrong with Casali? I haven't heard anything about it here or anywhere else. I know he got nailed a few times on Monday and he was out last night but is it his shoulder, head or what?

Jim Day said something about Casali's knee bothering him. It's why Farmer pinch-hit for him a couple of nights ago.

[Alabama]

not as much as a 2 Run HR, 3 Run HR or a Grand Slam....in all seriousness, it often seems like they are not, and often happen randomly as opposed to innings where guys are getting doubles and driving in runs.

The one last night was pretty damning. With this offense, they all are

[Ironman92]

Didn't say it was crazy, just seems like much ado about nothing in the long run.

I’m just posting stuff in today’s game thread.

I’m the biggest Puig fan on here and he’s getting heralded since June 14th or whatever but the last few games he’s showing signs of his swing not being as quick/short and his front foot timing isn’t quite in sync

Right now....game on the line and need a big hit

1. Ervin
2. Farmer off bench
3. Senzel
4. Suarez
5. Puig

Just my thoughts

[ochoa30]

If you're a righty and throw anything other then a breaking ball to Nick Senzel you should be fined. He simply cant hit them. Wonder how he fared against them in the minors? Obviously they are better up here but it's kind of alarming

[malcontent]

If they lose today, I'd say it's time to be looking to sell.

Williams saying the Reds would be buyers was always such a hoot.

[Chip R]

knee inflammation


I think they said knee.


Jim Day said something about Casali's knee bothering him. It's why Farmer pinch-hit for him a couple of nights ago.

Thanks, guys. :) I thought it may have been his shoulder from the ball that hit him on Monday. Day initially thought he got hit in the cup.

[Ironman92]

Not many good swings so far. Darvish has them guessing

[Ironman92]

His hanging 87 mph curve often up in zone for a strike but it’s freezing everyone

[ochoa30]

Sucks that Darvish is starting to figure it out. He looks great so far today.

[TheBigLebowski]

If they lose today, I'd say it's time to be looking to sell.

Williams saying the Reds would be buyers was always such a hoot.

Yes, if they lose ground in this series, it's time to admit defeat.

[Mutaman]

If they lose today, I'd say it's time to be looking to sell.

Williams saying the Reds would be buyers was always such a hoot.

Wish they would sell Williams. And some of his relatives.

[Ironman92]

I don’t see the outcome being good but this is one hell of an at bat

[Tuff Nut]

Sucks that Darvish is starting to figure it out. He looks great so far today.

All once-struggling pitchers look good against the Reds.

[Ironman92]

All once-struggling pitchers look good against the Reds.

I think this is different. He’s hitting 98mph and rarely missing in the hitting zone. This is the best I’ve seen him in years

[JCM11]

Sucks that Darvish is starting to figure it out. He looks great so far today.

It's funny how opposing pitchers start to figure it out against the Reds offense.

[Ironman92]

Puig seems to really be thinking at the plate...not too much but in a good way. He seems to be evaluating after each swing and pitch. He’s not licked in physically with it but seems very good mentally up there.

[Chip R]

btw that HR by Russell was his 6th of this season, half of which have come against the Reds.

Russell hits the reds like they're his wife.

[TheBigLebowski]

It's funny how opposing pitchers start to figure it out against the Reds offense.

Never fails. Or seldom.

[adkindo]

Darvish does not have a no hitter going in Ervin was playing....:deadhorse:

[Ironman92]

Darvish does not have a no hitter going in Ervin was playing....:deadhorse:

We’ve moved on. He can ground out to 3rd in the 8th inning

[Rolando]

Darvish does not have a no hitter going in Ervin was playing....:deadhorse:

Lol

[Ironman92]

Ok Scooter, get us going

[Ironman92]

Uh oh...hope not hurt

[JaxRed]

Uh oh...hope not hurt

Hmmmm do we? If he took 10 days off I'd be ok with it.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Getting hit by a pitch is seemingly the only thing this crew can do the last 15 innings.

[Ironman92]

Dietrich limping, put Winker, Peraza or Ervin in

[adkindo]

Dietrich should steal 2nd

[Jomama]

The Reds are currently 26th in the majors in runs scored for the year, ahead of only Baltimore, the White Sox, Miami, and Detroit.

[adkindo]

finally....Ervin time!

[Ironman92]

Hmmmm do we? If he took 10 days off I'd be ok with it.

Yes, I definitely hope he is not hurt

[JaxRed]

Ervin already on base. We told you !!

[BluegrassRedleg]

That palm is gonna hurt tomorrow.

[Ironman92]

Ervin isn’t fast but with 2 outs....see if you can steal

[adkindo]

That palm is gonna hurt tomorrow.

yeah, but he is the hero of the bleachers for the next 5 minutes

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hahahahahahaha. Of course, Graterol.

[ochoa30]

Yes, I definitely hope he is not hurt

Yeah but honestly could Van Meter probably not give you what he has the last 30+ days? He would probably be considerably better actually

[Ironman92]

Congrats on your first Reds hit

[Ironman92]

Yeah but honestly could Van Meter probably not give you what he has the last 30+ days? He would probably be considerably better actually

I don’t disagree but I refuse to act like I’m ok with a Reds player getting hurt in any way

[ochoa30]

I don’t disagree but I refuse to act like I’m ok with a Reds player getting hurt in any way

Not ok with it. Just saying we have a capable replacement IMO

[mhs95_06]

Then why are they 28-21 in night games?

How much different and for better or worse are their offensive runs scored and ERA in day vs. night games?

[Ironman92]

Not ok with it. Just saying we have a capable replacement IMO

I know we do but like Farmer getting smoked twice last night and having to call up a guy that can’t hit in the minors, I don’t care. If he goes 0-3 with 3 double plays and several passed balls costing us the game...I don’t care this one game. I want Farmer ok because he’s a good guy sacrificing himself for the team ......Dietrich, while cold and potentially not going to produce much the rest of the year...He’s a Red and he’s been great on this team for what most of us expected. I’m just showing what I feel is the necessary compassion on a forum that sometimes feels like robotic gm’s waiting to make their next move.

[CrackerJack]

I see 0 runs in the 5th against a guy with a 4.72 ERA, ugh, cmon already with this lineup.

[adkindo]

gotta get Ervin to the plate....get this offense going

[Rolando]

we're going to get some runs this inning let's go!

[JaxRed]

Gray's pitched a pretty nice game.

[JCM11]

Rocket shot double to get the inning started.

[JaxRed]

Was hoping he could get 3

[Ironman92]

Knock him in Joey

[ochoa30]

Very nice swing on the hanger by Darvish. Keep it going Joey!

[BluegrassRedleg]

I see 0 runs in the 5th against a guy with a 4.72 ERA, ugh, cmon already with this lineup.

On the heels on 9 empty frames against a cast of slapnuts yesterday.

[Ironman92]

Good AB needed by Geno

[Ironman92]

Terrible 1st swing

[Ironman92]

They just aren’t picking up Darvish

[adkindo]

why did Senzel run?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Good God.

[Ironman92]

Great game here...bleh

C’mon Stupid, do something big

[JCM11]

Senzel should've stayed in the throwing lane.

[ochoa30]

Man, that just sucks. Hit it anywhere else and it's a run or any softer for that matter

[Ironman92]

why did Senzel run?

Replay shows he hesitated too. Ugh

[bigfoot52]

Same thing happened last night. Plate blocked without the ball. What happened to that rule?

[Ironman92]

Desperate. Had he broke immediately maybe

[adkindo]

Same thing happened last night. Plate blocked without the ball. What happened to that rule?

I just think on this one he was out by so much, it would not really be considered blocking the plate

[Ironman92]

98 on the corner

Geesh

[Ironman92]

Yeah, I just cussed

[JCM11]

Dang Puig was just ahead of that hanger.

6 shutout innings for Cy Darvish.

[Kc61]

How much different and for better or worse are their offensive runs scored and ERA in day vs. night games?

Just looked quickly. Difference seems to be in the pitching. Team ERA is 3.22 at night - best in NL. 4.68 in day games. Slightly more runs scored per game at night.

[ochoa30]

Replay shows he hesitated too. Ugh

Would not have mattered. Ball was smoked right at Bote. Just bad luck really.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That was a HR pitch. Out in front. Missed his chance.

[Jomama]

why did Senzel run?

Cubs were playing back. You have to run on contact and hope it isn't hit really hard right at someone (which, unfortunately, it was). I don't mind being aggressive there.

[BluegrassRedleg]

When they said Yu had never won at Wrigley, and it was a day game for the Reds, this was basically over.

[Ironman92]

Swing isn’t as short and quick as it was

[TheBigLebowski]

I can't watch, but that doesn't seem like a bad thing reading this thread.

[coryfly]

Yeah, he needed to run inside and then probably just plow into the catcher or something. The way he ran and gave himself up I don't think they really had an argument though.

[ochoa30]

When they said Yu had never won at Wrigley, and it was a day game for the Reds, this was basically over.

I had this same thought, lol. Dude has been very good though. 98 is no joke.

[adkindo]

Cubs were playing back. You have to run on contact and hope it isn't hit really hard right at someone (which, unfortunately, it was). I don't mind being aggressive there.

I guess, but he had a perfect view of the hit, and I would speculate that he could get back to the bag before the 3rd baseman.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Jesse Winker doesn't catch that. :deadhorse:

:evil:

[JaxRed]

Cubs only have 2 hits also, but.....

[coryfly]

What a baby.

[JCM11]

Best start of the series so far by Sonny.

[ochoa30]

Cubs only have 2 hits also, but.....

2 very long hits unfortunately. Gray has been very good again though. Offense a no show.

[JaxRed]

Nobody bunts on Juan Graterol.....

[adkindo]

Cubs only have 2 hits also, but.....

have to wonder if a good Pitcher even would sign with the Reds in free agency with this offense

[mhs95_06]

Just looked quickly. Difference seems to be in the pitching. Team ERA is 3.22 at night - best in NL. 4.68 in day games. Slightly more runs scored per game at night.

thanks

[Jomama]

I guess, but he had a perfect view of the hit, and I would speculate that he could get back to the bag before the 3rd baseman.

At least it's a rookie making the mistake, and he seems to actually care. I'm tired of seeing the veteran players having brain cramps on the base paths. Here's hoping he learns from the situation. And ultimately Puig struck out anyway.

[ochoa30]

have to wonder if a good Pitcher even would sign with the Reds in free agency with this offense

They will sign but the Reds would need to overpay. It's more the ballpark though IMO. Should help that Johnson and the pitching staff have had a nice year so far.

[bigfoot52]

Now we get a lefty.

[JCM11]

You can't keep Phillip Ervin off base.

[adkindo]

can't keep Ervin off base

[mhs95_06]

Lefty played right into Ervin's hand, but he gets a bad strike one call which is negated by the HBP!

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Nice play by Russell.

[JaxRed]

That might have been a time to pinch hit Peraza

[bigfoot52]

Scooter doing his Winker impression.
However Winker would have been doubled up.

[malcontent]

Gotta wonder what kind of year the injury took away from Gennett. Still not the same.

Can't have nice things, case #3135.

[Alabama]

This team is so bad at getting that runner in from 3rd with less than 2. Need some guys with legit contact skills, that can handle the bat.

[malcontent]

Graterol needs a Hal King moment.

[TheBigLebowski]

2 very long hits unfortunately. Gray has been very good again though. Offense a no show.

Someone told me earlier solo HRs do not matter.

[JCM11]

I think the wind knocked that one down.

Boy Iglesias is a terrible baserunner.

[bigfoot52]

Juan gave it a ride.
Peraza: Knock somebody in!

[Kc61]

Gotta wonder what kind of year the injury took away from Gennett. Still not the same.

Can't have nice things, case #3135.

I think he’s coming on, Scooter, that was lefty-lefty, never been his strong suit. Hopefully on the home stand.

[JaxRed]

That might have been a time to pinch hit Peraza

Or now....

[adkindo]

At least it's a rookie making the mistake, and he seems to actually care. I'm tired of seeing the veteran players having brain cramps on the base paths. Here's hoping he learns from the situation. And ultimately Puig struck out anyway.

like that?

[ochoa30]

He better be safe. Like how does that even happen?

[Jomama]

Ugh...what was I saying about veteran players having brain cramps on the base paths?

[adkindo]

close....think he was safe

[JaxRed]

That will burn Peraza's at bat too.

[JCM11]

Just brutal to get picked off first base by the catcher in that spot.

[ochoa30]

What an idiotic thing to do. Just insane.

[Kc61]

Iglesias called out on replay.

I think we’ll see Peraza take over at shortstop.

That way he stays in the game and leads off next inning.

Pitcher would take Iglesias batting spot which doesn’t come up for awhile.

[ZakkW]

Has there ever been a worse base-running team than this one? They run themselves right out of so many innings and scoring opportunities

[BluegrassRedleg]

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[adkindo]

that is bs....seems like as the season has aged, they have leaned heavily with the call on the field if it was even close...maybe trying to create some data to support their umpires

[TheBigLebowski]

These things are how a team like the Reds can defy Pythag. How to lose ballgames 101, by the 2019 Cincinnati Reds.

[Jomama]

close....think he was safe

Too close to overturn, I guess.

[Kc61]

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Nope. Big four game home series against Cards coming up.

[mhs95_06]

He better be safe. Like how does that even happen?

By trying to be in position to score the tying run on a lazer double off the LCF wall like Senzel got cut down on last night!

[Redsfan6272]

Yep and the Reds manager won't get ticked at his players for any of this. Just give excuses after the game . Wish we could clone Lou Pinella

[Rolando]

Nope. Big four game home series against Cards coming up.
Big for the cardinals?

[ochoa30]

By trying to be in position to score the tying run on a lazer double off the LCF wall like Senzel got cut down on last night!

Just cant happen. There is not one valid excuse. He is the trailing runner with 2 outs in the 7th inning. You only get so many chances and he absolutely nuked that one.

[JaxRed]

Iglesias called out on replay.

I think we’ll see Peraza take over at shortstop.

That way he stays in the game and leads off next inning.

Pitcher would take Iglesias batting spot which doesn’t come up for awhile.

Good call.

[Rolando]

By trying to be in position to score the tying run on a lazer double off the LCF wall like Senzel got cut down on last night!
It's still lazy baserunning

[malcontent]

White Flag time.

[ochoa30]

It's about to be out of reach anyways. Hernandez has nothing left for whatever reason.

[Jomama]

Oh boy...Hernandez. I guess Bell is waving the white flag.

[JaxRed]

If he doesn't get this guy he would be out of game for me.

[Jomama]

The big question is...is there anyone warming up in the bullpen yet?

[JaxRed]

Don't talk to him.....pull him !!!

[CaiGuy]

I am a fan of Hernendez but he can't get hitters out at this point. Time for a DL stint or demotion or something.

[mhs95_06]

At least need to have Herget warming.

[Kc61]

Big for the cardinals?

Reds have 8 at home against Cards in next few weeks. They can catch and pass the Cards. That would be big.

[Alabama]

I just don’t understand how y’all can continue to support this crap with a positive attitude.

[adkindo]

Hernendez is finished.....this is malpractice by Bell

[mamell]

Yet another way to speed up baseball, have someone who really can't sing come out and sing yet another song between every inning.. How about a brass band come out and play the long version of Stars and Stripes forever between the 3rd? Jeeeez..

[Jomama]

Don't talk to him.....pull him !!!

That assumes there is somebody ready to come in. Bell would have had to have been ahead of the curve for once. Let's call it the Bell Curve...or the Bell Curse.

[Big Klu]

The big question is...is there anyone warming up in the bullpen yet?

Bowman is.

[Jomama]

See....he just got Bowman up when they went out to talk to him. Ridiculous.

[CaiGuy]

I just don’t understand how y’all can continue to support this crap with a positive attitude.

I don't understand why you keep following the game and posting if you hate the team so much.

[ochoa30]

I just don’t understand how y’all can continue to support this crap with a positive attitude.

You're either a bandwagon fan or your not. The people here are loyal. Go be a Braves fan please. Not a single person here will mind.

[mhs95_06]

Framing error for a PB?

[JaxRed]

Whiff (Graterol)

[Jomama]

How do you miss catching that?

[JCM11]

How do you miss catching that?

By trying to frame a strike before catching it.

[Big Klu]

Chris won't come out and suggest that Hernandez is injured, but he said that there is definitely something not right with him.

[ochoa30]

By trying to frame a strike before catching it.

Exactly. If we had robo umps dumb things like that wouldnt happen. Atleast get the strike call right though. It wasnt even borderline.

[Red Raindog]

Hernandez does what he's been doing -- someone should mention this to Bell

[CaiGuy]

You could feel that coming.

[mamell]

So much for the law of averages working in Hernandez's favor.. He's done.

[JCM11]

Hernandez is a great guy, but it's time to send him packing. Also this was a 2 run game and you have Bell going to DH yet again vs the heart of the order.

[Jomama]

By trying to frame a strike before catching it.

It was more of a rhetorical question.

[Reds Fanatic]

Something has to be done with Hernandez. You can't think you are in a race and keep giving away games with him. ERA is now up to 6.92

[ochoa30]

He literally threw 4 hangers in a row, lol

[Redsfan6272]

Im yelling go outside dang it , noooo lets put it in Heywards wheelhouse. GRRRRRRRRR

[Jomama]

Too late, Bell.

[mhs95_06]

Just cant happen. There is not one valid excuse. He is the trailing runner with 2 outs in the 7th inning. You only get so many chances and he absolutely nuked that one.

Not saying it shouldn't not happen, just giving a thought process and motivation for how it could happen.

[Redsfan6272]

Chris won't come out and suggest that Hernandez is injured, but he said that there is definitely something not right with him.

Bell will keep throwing him out there!!!!

[Jomama]

Something has to be done with Hernandez. You can't think you are in a race and keep giving away games with him. ERA is now up to 6.92

The only race the Reds are in is for the basement with Pittsburgh.

[ochoa30]

"I'm starting to think this Hernandez guy isnt very good." - David Bell probably

[Rolando]

Reds have 8 at home against Cards in next few weeks. They can catch and pass the Cards. That would be big.

I truly want to be optimistic but it's hard to be when you don't score and for some odd reason the manager keeps putting the worst picture alive right now in the game

[JaxRed]

I hate to harp on this but... I have no problem trying Hernandez. (ok maybe a little), but given his recent record you have someone warming before he even enters game. After walking 2, there was ZERO reason to be in the game.

[adkindo]

You're either a bandwagon fan or your not. The people here are loyal. Go be a Braves fan please. Not a single person here will mind.

I am not sure he meant "support" the team as in cheering for the Reds....assume he meant excusing the terrible job Bell has did this year and players just not getting the job done. Our offense is not hot and cold....it is either warm or in hibernation. I am beyond frustrated with many things with this team...do not think that means I should change teams after nearly 40 years.

[Alabama]

I don't understand why you keep following the game and posting if you hate the team so much.

I’m here because I love the Reds. Obviously wouldn’t be here if I hated them. You can be a fan and call out the incompetence of the organization. It is so bad, from the top down. I want to see them win but they just continue to do the opposite.

[JaxRed]

They need to talk to Hernandez and come up with an 'arm strain' and give him some time off followed by stint in minors.

[Rolando]

"I'm starting to think this Hernandez guy isnt very good." - David Bell probably

I doubt it for some reason Bell is being stubborn with us and it's really making him look silly

[Jomama]

I hate to harp on this but... I have no problem trying Hernandez. (ok maybe a little), but given his recent record you have someone warming before he even enters game. After walking 2, there was ZERO reason to be in the game.

Agreed. The bullpen should have been active as soon as Hernandez got to the mound. Instead he waited until he walked two straight batters.

[mhs95_06]

I truly want to be optimistic but it's hard to be when you don't score and for some odd reason the manager keeps putting the worst picture alive right now in the game

Thinking that maybe the picture wouldn't be reality!

[Big Klu]

Well, the double and the flyout to deep LF makes both runs earned. (The second run could have been questionable due to the passed ball.)

[bigfoot52]

I just don’t understand how y’all can continue to support this crap with a positive attitude.

If you don't like, go back to your country!

[Rolando]

They need to talk to Hernandez and come up with an 'arm strain' and give him some time off followed by stint in minors.

I would just cut him.
I think at this point he's old and washed-up just like Zach Duke was

[malcontent]

I just don’t understand how y’all can continue to support this crap with a positive attitude.
I can't, Alabama. Specifically, I'd have sent Bell packing weeks ago.

[JCM11]

Of course Bowman comes in and makes it look easy.

[adkindo]

David Hernandez ERA in July....27.00....teams are batting .579 on him

[Baseballdad]

I think Hernandez got be injured! How could someone who was lights out in the first and have results like this!

[Redsfan6272]

Just sucks. Win a huge 1st game ag the Cubs, score 3 runs in the first inning yesterday and ZERO after that!!! They need to trade for a leader for next season. Is there any player out there like Greg Vaughn???

[Rolando]

Thinking that maybe the picture wouldn't be reality!
Well hell I can't get on anybody else I can't even make a coherent sentence lol

[Alabama]

I am not sure he meant "support" the team as in cheering for the Reds....assume he meant excusing the terrible job Bell has did this year and players just not getting the job done. Our offense is not hot and cold....it is either warm or in hibernation. I am beyond frustrated with many things with this team...do not think that means I should change teams after nearly 40 years.

Thank you man. I wouldn’t be on a Reds message board if I didn’t love them. Some stuff is inexcusable though and of course what we post here doesn’t matter, but someone needs to hold the decision makers accountable.