PDA

View Full Version : Cardinals @ Reds 7-18-19



Pages : [1] 2

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 03:07 PM
Reds
Winker CF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Puig RF
Gennett 2B
Ervin LF
Iglesias SS
Graterol C
Roark P

Cardinals
Edman 3B
Martinez RF
Goldschmidt 1B
O’Neill LF
Fowler CF
Wieters C
DeJong SS
Wong 2B
Hudson P

Kc61
07-18-2019, 03:17 PM
Bell might consider using Peraza at shortstop a bit more. With Graterol in the lineup, and Iglesiasí offense declining, the bottom of the order is pretty weak. If Graterol and Iggy hit better than I expect, Iíll stand corrected.

JCM11
07-18-2019, 03:18 PM
What's the word on Senzel's leg injury?

Tom Servo
07-18-2019, 03:25 PM
What's the word on Senzel's leg injury?
They had to amputate.

NebraskaRed
07-18-2019, 03:47 PM
They had to amputate.

Still the fastest runner on the team.

CaiGuy
07-18-2019, 04:24 PM
They had to amputate.

Merely a flesh wound.

gagliano
07-18-2019, 04:34 PM
another 0-4 on the way from our fleet footed leadoff man

Kc61
07-18-2019, 04:51 PM
They had to amputate.

How long is he out?

Tom Servo
07-18-2019, 04:54 PM
How long is he out?
should be better by tomorrow

Kc61
07-18-2019, 04:55 PM
should be better by tomorrow

Good.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 05:30 PM
Bell might consider using Peraza at shortstop a bit more. With Graterol in the lineup, and Iglesiasí offense declining, the bottom of the order is pretty weak. If Graterol and Iggy hit better than I expect, Iíll stand corrected.

Thatís fine but how is Peraza going to help that?

Kc61
07-18-2019, 05:52 PM
Thatís fine but how is Peraza going to help that?

LOL.

Actually heís hitting .896 OPS for the last thirty days, Mr. Peraza.

And a .327 BA, to boot.

Guy really messed things up for himself with the slow start, itís a terrible habit, but he does come around in the second half usually.

mamell
07-18-2019, 05:54 PM
They had to amputate...the wrong leg.

You didn't say that.. I merely contributed. They sewed it back on and amputated the right leg which is not to be confused with his right leg. "They know what causes that stuff these days." Dr Bell was quoted as saying..

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 06:00 PM
LOL.

Actually heís hitting .896 OPS for the last thirty days, Mr. Peraza.

And a .327 BA, to boot.

Guy really messed things up for himself with the slow start, itís a terrible habit, but he does come around in the second half usually.

I never mind as long as the guy is hitting. I just want the Reds to win....but if both are going to go 1-4 and 0-4....I want Iglesias in there

bigfoot52
07-18-2019, 06:02 PM
According to John Fay:
Casali- 10 DL
Farmer - 7 day concussion IL
Hernandez - 10 day DL Sore arm

Up
VanMeter
Sims

Signed
Catcher Ryan Lavarnway to 1 yr

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 06:07 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

1h
David Bell says Nick Senzel (hamstring strain) won't require a trip to the IL but may miss next day or two. Mild strain, but #Reds want to be cautious

bigfoot52
07-18-2019, 06:12 PM
According to John Fay:
Casali- 10 DL
Farmer - 7 day concussion IL
Hernandez - 10 day DL Sore arm

Up
VanMeter
Sims

Signed
Catcher Ryan Lavarnway to 1 yr

My bad. I didn't see the post in the other thread.

JaxRed
07-18-2019, 06:26 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

1h
David Bell says Nick Senzel (hamstring strain) won't require a trip to the IL but may miss next day or two. Mild strain, but #Reds want to be cautious

We don't mind playing shorthanded.

Strikes Out Looking
07-18-2019, 07:04 PM
We don't mind playing shorthanded.

Reds should be good at it, they've been doing it for at least a decade, likely longer.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:12 PM
Roark starts with a K

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:17 PM
Goldschmidt strikes out swinging. 0-0 mid 1st

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:27 PM
Suarez crushed that pitch! 1-0 Reds

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 07:27 PM
Bang! Geno Goes BOOM!!!

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 07:29 PM
Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has tied Sean Casey for 22nd place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 277
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Ernie Lombardi - 120
22. Sean Casey - 118
22. Eugenio Suarez - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

bigfoot52
07-18-2019, 07:29 PM
Geno does it again. Amazing!

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 07:30 PM
"Reds keep on scoring in the first inning" quote from Welsh. But can they score later on in the game?

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:31 PM
Bloop hit for O'Neill

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:34 PM
Wow. O' Neil had stole 2nd but is out on batter interference by Fowler. So that becomes a DP

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 07:34 PM
Batter Interference

bigfoot52
07-18-2019, 07:35 PM
Batter Interference

Odd call. If it were against the Reds, I would be screaming.

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 07:36 PM
I thought it seemed like interference when it happened, but you hardly ever see it called.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:40 PM
Leadoff walk for Scooter

- - - Updated - - -

Ervin hit by the pitch. 1st and 2nd

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 07:42 PM
Somebody on the Reds bench is wearing the wrong cap. There was one guy wearing a red cap with a white button on top (which was the 1956 throwback cap).

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:43 PM
Iglesias hit it hard but lines into a 6-4 DP

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 07:44 PM
The Reds, no luck or bad luck. Just amazing.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:45 PM
Graterol grounds into a FC. 1-0 Reds after 2

RR1971
07-18-2019, 07:45 PM
Bad luck on the DP.

Rolando
07-18-2019, 07:46 PM
No luck and crappy base running

gagliano
07-18-2019, 07:47 PM
Somebody on the Reds bench is wearing the wrong cap. There was one guy wearing a red cap with a white button on top (which was the 1956 throwback cap).

mighta been where he parks his gum between innings?

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 07:47 PM
No luck and crappy base running
Nothing Scooter could have done there.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:49 PM
Wong singles to center

- - - Updated - - -

Looks like the scoreboard in right is completely off tonight

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 07:52 PM
Great Play!!!

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 07:52 PM
3-6-yessiree-4!

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:52 PM
Nice 3-6-4 DP. 1-0 Reds mid 3rd

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 07:53 PM
Nice dp

davereds24
07-18-2019, 07:55 PM
If only Votto can be that decisive when he swings. :)

Seriously though, nice to see he can still make a play.

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 07:56 PM
Double for Roark

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:56 PM
Roark with a broken bat double

757690
07-18-2019, 07:57 PM
Tyler O’Neal doing his best Jesse Winker impression.

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 07:57 PM
Not only is today Eugenio Suarez's birthday, it is also Derek Dietrich's birthday.

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 07:59 PM
If only Votto can be that decisive when he swings. :)

Seriously though, nice to see he can still make a play.

I really think he realizes his bat speed and eye coordination are declining and it's tearing him up inside. He's carried this team on his back for a decade. The Reds have wasted his time as a premier player.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 07:59 PM
Winker singles to left. 1st and 3rd

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 07:59 PM
Base Hit Wink!

davereds24
07-18-2019, 08:04 PM
They need to get Roark of the basepath ASAP

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 08:05 PM
Votto base Hit

Red Raindog
07-18-2019, 08:05 PM
Only one rbi for Votto


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:05 PM
Votto singles in a run and goes to 2nd on the throw to 3rd. 2-0 Reds

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 08:05 PM
Votto with a single, but can manage only 1 RBI.

#notelite

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:06 PM
Nice patient ab, Joey. Like it!

RR1971
07-18-2019, 08:06 PM
I really think he realizes his bat speed and eye coordination are declining and it's tearing him up inside. He's carried this team on his back for a decade. The Reds have wasted his time as a premier player.
I think thereís something else to it. Two years ago he was the best hitter in the NL and now heís almost a replacement level player. I just donít see how he has declined that fast. I think it could be his approach at the plate and what he is trying to do. maybe the shift got in his head. Bryce Harper has kind of gone backward too.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:06 PM
Suarez sac fly to the track in center. 3-0 Reds

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Stupid Double for Puig!!!

davereds24
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
How did Votto not tag up? Great job getting to second on his single.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Puig bloop double to right. 2nd and 3rd

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Should be a single and E9.

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
They need to get Roark of the basepath ASAP

Roark Of The Basepath
15106

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Luck taking a turn for the better:thumbup:

davereds24
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Getting to their pen early in this hot 4 game series should be huge

Redeye fly
07-18-2019, 08:08 PM
Not to nitpick and I know he won't win many races but not quite getting why Votto didn't make it to third on the Suarez sac fly after good base running to get to second before that.

757690
07-18-2019, 08:09 PM
Puig es ultima caballo salvaje esta noche

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 08:10 PM
Not to nitpick and I know he won't win many races but not quite getting why Votto didn't make it to third on the Suarez sac fly after good base running to get to second before that.

He probably went halfway, so that if it fell in he would score easily

RR1971
07-18-2019, 08:12 PM
Runner on third with less than two outs and we miss again. Is there a stat that tracks that? We’ve got to be in last place on that one.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:12 PM
Scooter strikes out and Ervin lines out. 3-0 Reds after 3

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:12 PM
Go back to hitting triples, Phil

Redeye fly
07-18-2019, 08:13 PM
He probably went halfway, so that if it fell in he would score easily
I hope there's a good reason for it and there probably is. It's just that with this team every run counts and is needed and we could very easily have 4 runs on the board instead of 3.

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 08:13 PM
Reds get 2, but could have really put a hurting on the Cardinals. Always so many chances wasted.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:15 PM
4 Ks for Roark

Qball
07-18-2019, 08:16 PM
Not to nitpick and I know he won't win many races but not quite getting why Votto didn't make it to third on the Suarez sac fly after good base running to get to second before that.

Had me scratching my head as well. CF was in no position to get a throw off and in fact kept strolling backwards after catching the ball.

davereds24
07-18-2019, 08:16 PM
I hope there's a good reason for it and there probably is. It's just that with this team every run counts and is needed and we could very easily have 4 runs on the board instead of 3.

No excuse with no outs, he just fell asleep. That ball was in the air long enough that he should have read it better.

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:17 PM
Edman, awaaaay!

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:18 PM
Martinez walks

stein1214
07-18-2019, 08:19 PM
No excuse with no outs, he just fell asleep. That ball was in the air long enough that he should have read it better.

With all the K’s and him taking a lot of 3rd strikes, I’ve kind of been wondering if it’s his eyes that are going.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:22 PM
Goldschmidt strikes out again. 5 Ks for Roark

RR1971
07-18-2019, 08:23 PM
With all the K’s and him taking a lot of 3rd strikes, I’ve kind of been wondering if it’s his eyes that are going.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his eyes that they can’t fix.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:24 PM
O' Neill with another bloop hit. 1st and 2nd

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 08:26 PM
Goldschmidt strikes out again. 5 Ks for Roark

Maybe Goldschmidt's decline has started also. Doesn't seem to be the player he was in AZ.

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:29 PM
Maybe Goldschmidt's decline has started also. Doesn't seem to be the player he was in AZ.

Sometime this offseason the cards will sacrifice another sheep or two to whatever demon they can get to turn him into an all-star again

Strikes Out Looking
07-18-2019, 08:30 PM
Sometime this offseason the cards will sacrifice another sheep or two to whatever demon they can get to turn him into an all-star again

He'll take those special vitamins that they seem to have.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:30 PM
Leadoff hit for Iglesias

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:37 PM
Iglesias steals 2nd

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:43 PM
Bloop leadoff hit by Wieters

Tadasimha
07-18-2019, 08:45 PM
Some long ABs against Roark last inning and starting this kne

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 08:45 PM
DeJong gonna hit 2 HR tomorrow and point up at Thom

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:45 PM
DeJong homers off the pole in left. 3-2 Reds

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 08:45 PM
THom, DeJong went to the All-Star Game because the rules stipulate that every club has to be represented. (DeJong was the Cardinals' only representative.)

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 08:46 PM
Thatís on you Thom ....tv jinx 590 times

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:46 PM
Wong hit by the pitch

- - - Updated - - -

Wow what a play by Graterol

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 08:48 PM
Nice Catch!

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 08:48 PM
Damn good baseball there

Great catch, awareness to throw, tag up, tag

RR1971
07-18-2019, 08:49 PM
Was hoping Roark could go 7 scoreless to kind if dress him up before the sale.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:55 PM
Martinez walks

50YrRedsFan
07-18-2019, 08:57 PM
Goldy way late on that fastball

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 08:58 PM
Good Pitch

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 08:58 PM
3rd time tonight Goldschmidt strikes out swinging

mamell
07-18-2019, 08:58 PM
Was hoping Roark could go 7 scoreless to kind if dress him up before the sale.

He's still doing pretty good despite the HR..

BigPoppa
07-18-2019, 08:59 PM
I love it when Welsh says "Tommy Hawk"

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:00 PM
I love it when Welsh says "Tommy Hawk"

You mean, "THommy Hawk"

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:01 PM
I love it when Welsh says "Tommy Hawk"

My momís maiden name was Hawk and had she been a boy her name was going to be Tommy

True story

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:02 PM
Well played lol

CTA513
07-18-2019, 09:03 PM
O'Neill must be spending time with Jim Edmonds.

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:03 PM
Good grief! O'Neill is worse defensively than Winker, and it's not even close! He is Yonder Alonso-level of bad out there!

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:04 PM
Suarez walks

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:07 PM
Puig yelling at the first base ump on the way back to the dugout

mamell
07-18-2019, 09:13 PM
Wow.. Grateral's arms are longer than they look apparently.

sdwagers
07-18-2019, 09:13 PM
Graterol moves likes a walrus, albeit an effective walrus

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:14 PM
Wieters singles to center. 1st and 3rd

- - - Updated - - -

Bullpen blows another lead. Single to left. 3-3

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:18 PM
Stephenson is single handily giving this game away. Another hit. Bases loaded

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:19 PM
Bob Steve picking up where Hernandez left off.

Hillsdale87
07-18-2019, 09:20 PM
Stephenson unfortunately seems to have no confidence in his fastball tonight

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:21 PM
Wow Thom almost lost his mind there. Fly out to right they had a chance to get the runner at 1st and Thom keeps screaming it is not a tag play

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:21 PM
Puig saves a run.

and Bob Steve cr@ps the bed in epic fashion.

Alabama
07-18-2019, 09:21 PM
This team is awful. One of the worst in the league. For the 5th year in a row. Worst ran organization in the MLB

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:21 PM
Ugh Grand slam. Another game given away.

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Man, Thom just crucified Votto on that play.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

RR1971
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
My goodness.

Red Raindog
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
I hate liking this team


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Bunting Bad
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Holy Moses

Coopdaddy67
07-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Man, Thom just crucified Votto on that play.

He enjoys it so much he can't even wait long enough to avoid looking like an idiot.

mamell
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Well, good night kids. I'm done watching.. Back to my krappy Korean movie I lost interest in.. Best O luck to the Redlegs..

BigPoppa
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Holy Moses

TheBigLebowski
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Unreal

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
This team is making the whole buy/sell question clearer each day

RR1971
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
One of our first round draft picks. We’re in bad shape when our first round picks turn out to be bad relief pitchers. And that’s the best case scenario.

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Definitely looks like a team that should be buying to me

coryfly
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Why just leave in guys when they clearly don't have it? Just like with Hernandez a few games ago.

wally post
07-18-2019, 09:23 PM
This team is making the whole buy/sell question clearer each day

That's the only silver lining.

GADawg
07-18-2019, 09:24 PM
Whew getting BobSteve out just in the nick of time

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:24 PM
One of our first round draft picks. We’re in bad shape when our first round picks turn out to be bad relief pitchers.

More then half of first round picks never even reach the big leagues. Plus hes been solid up until today. It happens.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:25 PM
With bases loaded and one out not sure why even have a cutoff for Puig

This game sucks

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:25 PM
Definitely looks like a team that should be buying to me

buy a whole new bullpen

Bunting Bad
07-18-2019, 09:25 PM
Maybe Stephenson should be given a chance at a spot in the rotation next year

TheBigLebowski
07-18-2019, 09:25 PM
Turning the page on another thrilling and successful season of Reds Baseball. I wish I would have been born in a better sports town.

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:26 PM
Heading towards 2-5 since the break unless we put on a big comeback.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:26 PM
Whereís mhs95....a lot of potential thoughts in this game

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:26 PM
He enjoys it so much he can't even wait long enough to avoid looking like an idiot.

Even when Chris corrected him, he still maintained that the runner had not tagged up, and Votto had cost them an out.

GADawg
07-18-2019, 09:27 PM
On the plus side uh Nevermind

Jomama
07-18-2019, 09:27 PM
Maybe Stephenson should be given a chance at a spot in the rotation next year

You are joking...right?

CrackerJack
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
Time to go to the bullpen/reliever store.

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
Edman is the exact type of player who will kill the Reds but be horrible against everyone else

Bunting Bad
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
Sorry. I thought it was obvious.

ZakkW
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
Would prefer to not be a negative new guy but this is an exasperatingly frustrating team.

RR1971
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
More then half of first round picks never even reach the big leagues. Plus hes been solid up until today. It happens.
For a good organization you may have a point but he’s not good and he’s one of our better first round picks.

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
I am ok with Bell leaving Robert S in there too long.
Hopefully Stephenson learns something from it, because we really need RS to be able to pitch in pressure situations ASAP to relieve the pressure off the other guys.

stein1214
07-18-2019, 09:28 PM
buy a whole new bullpen

Keep Garrett and Hughes...dump the rest.

Bunting Bad
07-18-2019, 09:29 PM
I was actually looking forward to see what Bobsteve could do in pressure situations. That is what I get looking forward to things.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:29 PM
I am ok with Bell leaving Robert S in there too long.
Hopefully Stephenson learns something from it, because we really need RS to be able to pitch in pressure situations ASAP to relieve the pressure off the other guys.

think that ship has sailed

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:30 PM
For a good organization you may have a point but he’s not good and he’s one of our better first round picks.

Nah, that's true for every single team. Also, he was a late first rounder so the odds are even worse. He will be fine.

Jomama
07-18-2019, 09:30 PM
Sorry. I thought it was obvious.

With this organization you never know. You might be giving Bell ideas.

Tom Servo
07-18-2019, 09:31 PM
Edman is the exact type of player who will kill the Reds but be horrible against everyone else
Heís actually been a Cardinals throwback this year, a no name minor leaguer coming up with big HRs

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:32 PM
Graterol singles in a run. 7-4 Cards

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:33 PM
He’s actually been a Cardinals throwback this year, a no name minor leaguer coming up with big HRs

I was looking at there stats and wondering how they could possibly have a better record then the Reds and its stuff like this. They really dont have a good roster at all but they know how to win and produce decent guys here and there to keep it going.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:36 PM
Graterol would need the catcher to eat the ball to try for 2nd

RR1971
07-18-2019, 09:36 PM
Nah, that's true for every single team. Also, he was a late first rounder so the odds are even worse. He will be fine.
Man, we are in last place about to have our 6th straight losing season, losing 6-7 starters in the offseason and have nobody in the minors to replace them and you’re defending our front office? Our drafts have been a bust.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:36 PM
VanMeter walks

Bunting Bad
07-18-2019, 09:37 PM
Hey, there is an idea. Your pitcher doesn't have it. You go to the bullpen.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:38 PM
Bringing in a righty?

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:39 PM
Man, we are in last place about to have our 6th straight losing season, losing 6-7 starters in the offseason and have nobody in the minors to replace them and you’re defending our front office? Our drafts have been a bust.

Didnt defend it. Just pointed out that your point missed the mark. We've discussed the success of the draft picks in the minor league forums enough here. No need to go into that in a game thread.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:40 PM
Cardinals pitcher donít give in much...tell Winker

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 09:41 PM
think that ship has sailed

Actually, BobSteve is still a work in progress.
Still time to salvage a few good years as a bullpenner from him.
He's been good most of the year in low pressure situations, hopefully with
practice, he can handle some pressure.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:41 PM
I am pretty much done with Winker....he has just not been nearly what I expected at the plate this season, and he has no defensive position.

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:42 PM
Winker needs to hit the ball in the air. Hes become Sean Casey without the average.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:42 PM
Man Winker gets my vote for most disappointing Reds hitter

TheBigLebowski
07-18-2019, 09:42 PM
Winker. Freaking Winker.

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 09:43 PM
I am pretty much done with Winker....he has just not been nearly what I expected at the plate this season, and he has no defensive position.

He was prime trade bait for awhile.. Reds really have held on to him too long.
He has a chance to rebound and be useful, but I am sure he's no longer viewed as a potential star or OBP machine.

coryfly
07-18-2019, 09:44 PM
I feel like if you need someone to hit a ground ball Winker is your rock star.

The Cardinals do what the Reds should have and take a pitcher who clearly doesn't have it.

Sims looks awesome though.

wally post
07-18-2019, 09:44 PM
Keep Garrett and Hughes...dump the rest.

Garrett is the other sure thing desirable player that all the contenders would fight over. We have been able to build relievers from time to time so I'm thinking we should hold the Dodgers and others hostage on him and consider trading him .

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:44 PM
Maybe Sims becomes the bullpen arm we need. He doesn't look half bad tonight.

TheBigLebowski
07-18-2019, 09:45 PM
He was prime trade bait for awhile.. Reds really have held on to him too long.
He has a chance to rebound and be useful, but I am sure he's no longer viewed as a potential star or OBP machine.

Reds hold on to everyone too long. One of the main reasons we’re in perpetual rebuild.

If anyone out there offers up anything useful for him, I’d ship him. Best hope is an AL team, because he belongs as a DH.

RR1971
07-18-2019, 09:45 PM
[QUOTE=ochoa30;3983905]Didnt defend it. Just pointed out that your point missed the mark. We've discussed the success of the draft picks in the minor league forums enough here. No need to go into that in a game
I think my point was spot on and our track record proves it.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:46 PM
You guys keep trading everyone off ....Iím not sure this game is out of reach at all

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:46 PM
Good inning by Sims

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:47 PM
Given how terrible the pen has been I'd leave Sims there and see how he does in the role.

DocRed
07-18-2019, 09:47 PM
I'm sorry but David Bell is a horrendous manager of the bullpen.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:48 PM
Maybe I am just missing something on the business side....but why are guys like Sims and Reed in Louisville the last 20-30 games while we keep rolling out absolutely terrible pitchers out of out bullpen each night?

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 09:48 PM
Looks like Lucas Sims has stepped up when given a chance by the Reds

BCubb2003
07-18-2019, 09:48 PM
The thing about the modern way of using relievers early and often is that one of them is likely to have a bad game, and it takes only one.

Tom Servo
07-18-2019, 09:49 PM
Maybe I am just missing something on the business side....but why are guys like Sims and Reed in Louisville the last 20-30 games while we keep rolling out absolutely terrible pitchers out of out bullpen each night?
Reed has been injured since the end of May. Sims was essentially the designated 6th starter in case of injury.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:50 PM
Good inning by Sims

Trade him

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 09:50 PM
Reds hold on to everyone too long. One of the main reasons weíre in perpetual rebuild.

If anyone out there offers up anything useful for him, Iíd ship him. Best hope is an AL team, because he belongs as a DH.

Isn't that the truth?
Couldn't make a deal for Cozart in his last year.
Asked the moon for BHam when there was a market, then end up releasing him.
If I had to bet, the Reds don't trade any pending FA this July.. They will be too worried about trying to make the fans think they are buying.

Jomama
07-18-2019, 09:51 PM
Reed has been injured since the end of May. Sims was essentially the designated 6th starter in case of injury.

So don't use Sims because you might need him? I would believe that coming from the Reds.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:51 PM
Peralta warming up :angry:

ochoa30
07-18-2019, 09:52 PM
Isn't that the truth?
Couldn't make a deal for Cozart in his last year.
Asked the moon for BHam when there was a market, then end up releasing him.
If I had to bet, the Reds don't trade any pending FA this July.. They will be too worried about trying to make the fans think they are buying.

Bob Castellini is a huge problem as well. He falls in love with every player and then they walk for more money and the Reds are left empty handed.

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:53 PM
Votto only manages a walk. No RBI.

#youknowthedrill

coryfly
07-18-2019, 09:53 PM
The thing about the modern way of using relievers early and often is that one of them is likely to have a bad game, and it takes only one.


Yeah, they have bad games (though Stephenson kind of went next level there with a bad game) but when they are having that game they don't need to be left in there to basically end the game.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 09:55 PM
Oppo time

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:56 PM
Puig singles to left. 1st and 2nd

adkindo
07-18-2019, 09:57 PM
Let it Fly one time Dietrich

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:57 PM
Dietrich hitting for Sims

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:57 PM
THom, it's not Scooter because he left the game as part of a double switch, with VanMeter entering the game at 2B.

JCM11
07-18-2019, 09:58 PM
Would Thom please stop calling balls on the corner "right down the middle".

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 09:59 PM
THom sure begs a lot of pardons.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 09:59 PM
Dietrich strikes out swinging

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 10:00 PM
Watching Deitrich hit now is like watching Hernandez pitch.. I just anticipate failure.
He's really crashed to earth.

JCM11
07-18-2019, 10:00 PM
Has Dietrich got a hit on a breaking ball this year?

GADawg
07-18-2019, 10:01 PM
Alright a homer will score Votto from second

stein1214
07-18-2019, 10:01 PM
He was prime trade bait for awhile.. Reds really have held on to him too long.
He has a chance to rebound and be useful, but I am sure he's no longer viewed as a potential star or OBP machine.

Because of half a season of .780ish OPS coming off of shoulder surgery...weíre just completely done with him at age 25?

adkindo
07-18-2019, 10:02 PM
probably game there

RR1971
07-18-2019, 10:03 PM
Because of half a season of .780ish OPS coming off of shoulder surgery...we’re just completely done with him at age 25?

Well the team doesn’t think he can hit left handed pitching, what are we supposed to think?

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 10:05 PM
Watching Deitrich hit now is like watching Hernandez pitch.. I just anticipate failure.
He's really crashed to earth.

Amazing thing is Dietrich dominates one team the Pirates. He is hitting .434 against the Pirates .186 against all other teams

GADawg
07-18-2019, 10:06 PM
Amazing thing is Dietrich dominates one team the Pirates. He is hitting .434 against the Pirates .186 against all other teams

Well it’s not much but if I had to dominate somebody it might be the pirates

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 10:07 PM
Good Job Wandy

GADawg
07-18-2019, 10:07 PM
Cy Peralta

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 10:07 PM
Good 1-2-3 inning by Peralta

GADawg
07-18-2019, 10:11 PM
Who’s weirder than Mike Castrucci?

mhs95_06
07-18-2019, 10:11 PM
Whereís mhs95....a lot of potential thoughts in this game

Not paying as.close attention tonight, at my Mom's house and also no DVR. Missed the whole disastrous 5 run half inning. Looks like Sims must have gotten something squared away lately in the minors, his breaking pitch?

gagliano
07-18-2019, 10:12 PM
I am pretty much done with Winker....he has just not been nearly what I expected at the plate this season, and he has no defensive position.

truly one of the least exciting players i've ever watched.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 10:13 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 8th

Tracy Jones
07-18-2019, 10:15 PM
Because of half a season of .780ish OPS coming off of shoulder surgery...weíre just completely done with him at age 25?

The fact that through 222 games and 768 plate appearances heís not even a half win player might have something to do with it. Another reason could be that heís so poor at all the other facets of the game that he would probably have to OPS somewhere in the neighborhood of .900 to be a 1 win player might be another reason.

You want the Reds to be a winning club? They need to aim higher than Jesse Winker.

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 10:16 PM
Ok, everyone wake up.. Herget sighting..

Fil3232
07-18-2019, 10:17 PM
Literally forgot Herget was on the team

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 10:17 PM
Herget gets bonus points for wearing stirrups, but loses some of them for wearing them with white shoes.

gagliano
07-18-2019, 10:17 PM
The fact that through 222 games and 768 plate appearances he’s not even a half win player might have something to do with it. Another reason could be that he’s so poor at all the other facets of the game that he would probably have to OPS somewhere in the neighborhood of .900 to be a 1 win player might be another reason.

You want the Reds to be a winning club? They need to aim higher than Jesse Winker.

on a good team, he's the 5th outfielder

stein1214
07-18-2019, 10:17 PM
When I think about everything I could have accomplished in 3 hours every night for the past 3 and a half months...man I feel like an idiot now.

Tracy Jones
07-18-2019, 10:18 PM
Who’s weirder than Mike Castrucci?

His dad Al. I had to deal with him on my job a couple of times. Weird isn’t the best word to describe him. Jerk is more accurate.

adkindo
07-18-2019, 10:19 PM
wow....Wild Thing

stein1214
07-18-2019, 10:20 PM
The fact that through 222 games and 768 plate appearances he’s not even a half win player might have something to do with it. Another reason could be that he’s so poor at all the other facets of the game that he would probably have to OPS somewhere in the neighborhood of .900 to be a 1 win player might be another reason.

You want the Reds to be a winning club? They need to aim higher than Jesse Winker.

Well then let’s bring up one of those can’t miss studs we have down on the farm.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
WOW!

JCM11
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
That was some double play!

REDREAD
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
well, Herget better buy Puig a beer after the game :lol:

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
9-5-yessiree-6!

adkindo
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
overslid the bag.....Puig has a gun

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
Wow what a play to end the inning. Puig nails the runner at 3rd. Then Suarez throws to 2nd and they get that runner as he slides past the bag

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
Statcast please

Tracy Jones
07-18-2019, 10:21 PM
on a good team, he's the 5th outfielder

No I wouldn’t go that far. He’s a 4th OFer. A good platoon piece. Ideally a DH. If he ever learns to hit lefties he’d actually be an excellent DH or perhaps be hidden at first base.

Ron Madden
07-18-2019, 10:22 PM
Haha! Razzle Dazzle!!!

RedForLife
07-18-2019, 10:22 PM
well, Herget better buy Puig a beer after the game :lol:

And a steak!

Tracy Jones
07-18-2019, 10:23 PM
Well then let’s bring up one of those can’t miss studs we have down on the farm.

If only there were some...

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:24 PM
Why not PH Peraza?

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2019, 10:24 PM
Leadoff hit by Winker

stein1214
07-18-2019, 10:24 PM
See...he can hit lefties

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:24 PM
Why not PH Peraza?

Thatís why...nice oppo young man

Big Klu
07-18-2019, 10:24 PM
If Puig keeps this up, he's going to get a Clemente type of reputation in RF.

JCM11
07-18-2019, 10:25 PM
Da Wink gets a hit off a lefty it's rally time.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:25 PM
Bunt

stein1214
07-18-2019, 10:25 PM
If only there were some...

Exactly

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:25 PM
If Puig keeps this up, he's going to get a Clemente type of reputation in RF.

Thatís like the first runner to test him in 3 months lol

RedForLife
07-18-2019, 10:25 PM
Whatever the Reds FO may or may not do before the deadline I say Puig's a keeper. He hustles all around and his arm is irreplaceable.

Ironman92
07-18-2019, 10:26 PM
Joey looked really good there

JCM11
07-18-2019, 10:26 PM
Boy that was a bad "swing" by Votto.