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Ron Madden
07-20-2019, 04:06 PM
Reds
Winker CF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Puig RF
VanMeter LF
Peraza 2B
Iglesias SS
Graterol C
Castillo P

Edman 3B
Martinez RF
Goldschmidt 1B
OíNeill LF
Fowler CF
Wong 2B
DeJong SS
Wieters C
Mikolas P

gagliano
07-20-2019, 04:16 PM
Reds
Winker CF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Puig RF
VanMeter LF
Peraza 2B
Iglesias SS
Graterol C
Castillo P

Edman 3B
Martinez RF
Goldschmidt 1B
OíNeill LF
Fowler CF
Wong 2B
DeJong SS
Wieters C
Mikolas P

hot day behind the dish for geritol.

CySeymour
07-20-2019, 04:16 PM
Are Dietrich and Scooter both injured?

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 04:21 PM
Are Dietrich and Scooter both injured?

Dietrich is probably still nursing his knee, and Scooter likely will get days off on a semiregular basis because of his groin.

CySeymour
07-20-2019, 04:25 PM
Dietrich is probably still nursing his knee, and Scooter likely will get days off on a semiregular basis because of his groin.

Thanks, Klu

GADawg
07-20-2019, 04:25 PM
I woulda started 6 rbi new guy on general principle even though clearly knocking in runs doesn’t matter

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 04:51 PM
SMH not starting Lavarnway. There arenít any good reasons.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 04:51 PM
Garrett and Iglesias are active. Herget sent down

JaxRed
07-20-2019, 04:57 PM
I like getting Van Meter into lineup. But I hate having two lefty second baseman and neither one is in versus a righty.

Rolando
07-20-2019, 04:59 PM
SMH not starting Lavarnway. There aren’t any good reasons.

He wasn't going to start tonight and tomorrow in this heat so I'll be honest with you I rather Juan start tonight web Castillo if nothing else for the language barrier

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 05:01 PM
Lavarnway not in the lineup. For some strange reason that seemed totally predictable. David Bell is a doofus.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 05:12 PM
He wasn't going to start tonight and tomorrow in this heat so I'll be honest with you I rather Juan start tonight web Castillo if nothing else for the language barrier

Guess Iím not savvy on the languages our 4th and 5th string catchers can handle. Lavarnway has 3 fingers and 2 HR, double and a walk.....so heís never caught a non-English speaking pitcher?

Rolando
07-20-2019, 05:15 PM
Guess I’m not savvy on the languages our 4th and 5th string catchers can handle. Lavarnway has 3 fingers and 2 HR, double and a walk.....so he’s never caught a non-English speaking pitcher?

Whoa I didnt get snarky you.

Rolando
07-20-2019, 05:18 PM
Guess I’m not savvy on the languages our 4th and 5th string catchers can handle. Lavarnway has 3 fingers and 2 HR, double and a walk.....so he’s never caught a non-English speaking pitcher?

he wasn't going to catch tonight and tomorrow anyway

klw
07-20-2019, 05:19 PM
Sadly I read the lineup and thought "does it really matter?" I think I will just go to the movies tonight.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 05:23 PM
Whoa I didnt get snarky you.

I mean whatís a guy gotta do to be in the lineup the next day? Farmer was clearly concussed and left in the game...this guy is fine and riding cloud 9 with 8 total bases, a key walk and isnít in there? These managers just over think the easy things.

If you arenít Votto/Puig/Suarez and you have a huge game....you wonít be playing the next day. Weíll find a Dusty Baker reason.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 05:26 PM
he wasn't going to catch tonight and tomorrow anyway

Catch tonight and play 1st tomorrow

Rolando
07-20-2019, 05:27 PM
I mean what’s a guy gotta do to be in the lineup the next day? Farmer was clearly concussed and left in the game...this guy is fine and riding cloud 9 with 8 total bases, a key walk and isn’t in there? These managers just over think the easy things.

If you aren’t Votto/Puig/Suarez and you have a huge game....you won’t be playing the next day. We’ll find a Dusty Baker reason.

I don't disagree I don't think David Bell is very smart either. All these games are fun now anyway

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 05:49 PM
I don't disagree I don't think David Bell is very smart either. All these games are fun now anyway

Iím just growing tired of obvious things not being obvious anymore. Didnít mean to snarkle but these things just make me shake my head.

Suarez was stupid and selfish and got tossed in the 1st inning....Any thought of not starting him today I wonder? Did Iglesias get talked to? Wonder if any discussions about Votto playing 40 feet off first have been had? (To be clear I donít blame Votto but I think itís a ridiculous defensive plan)...anyone ever ask why they didnít review Iglesias tag in that 10 run inning that wouldíve made it a 6 run inning?

None of that stuff takes anything of any talent ...I donít get it. Maybe most of things were discussed, I feel most of them werenít though.

To me this team for 20 years has let the veterans or stars get away with whatever...and it just continues. If Suarez canít get a good read on the ball while being a baserunner....do they take him and work on it? If VanMeter goes 3-4 with 2 doubles does he play tomorrow. I think both answers are no.

Last nightís loss was ridiculous...and to the Cardinals. Seems like a lot of people donít care to lose because they arenít going to the playoffs anyways and we can think of all our players to trade away.

I donít care about 2021 or 2022, I wanna beat the Cardinals tonight, especially if up 7.

Pretty sure I made this post in 2016 not caring about 2019.....here we are!

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 05:56 PM
Catch tonight and play 1st tomorrow

It's not a video game.

Rolando
07-20-2019, 05:57 PM
I’m just growing tired of obvious things not being obvious anymore. Didn’t mean to snarkle but these things just make me shake my head.

Suarez was stupid and selfish and got tossed in the 1st inning....Any thought of not starting him today I wonder? Did Iglesias get talked to? Wonder if any discussions about Votto playing 40 feet off first have been had? (To be clear I don’t blame Votto but I think it’s a ridiculous defensive plan)...anyone ever ask why they didn’t review Iglesias tag in that 10 run inning that would’ve made it a 6 run inning?

None of that stuff takes anything of any talent ...I don’t get it. Maybe most of things were discussed, I feel most of them weren’t though.

To me this team for 20 years has let the veterans or stars get away with whatever...and it just continues. If Suarez can’t get a good read on the ball while being a baserunner....do they take him and work on it? If VanMeter goes 3-4 with 2 doubles does he play tomorrow. I think both answers are no.

Last night’s loss was ridiculous...and to the Cardinals. Seems like a lot of people don’t care to lose because they aren’t going to the playoffs anyways and we can think of all our players to trade away.

I don’t care about 2021 or 2022, I wanna beat the Cardinals tonight, especially if up 7.

Pretty sure I made this post in 2016 not caring about 2019.....here we are!

I understand and I completely agree with everything you said

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 06:11 PM
It's not a video game.

Yeah, no way could a catcher play 1st base even though he has before

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 06:11 PM
It's not a video game.

What are you talking about?

Fil3232
07-20-2019, 06:20 PM
Yeah, no way could a catcher play 1st base even though he has before

You may be losing the plot arguing Lavarnway over Votto against a RHP lol

BCubb2003
07-20-2019, 06:32 PM
hot day behind the dish for geritol.

Graterol has electrolytes.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 06:48 PM
You may be losing the plot arguing Lavarnway over Votto against a RHP lol

Because Votto is hitting righties better than lefties this year?

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:07 PM
Jesse Winker scores a run today itíll be his 100th career

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:13 PM
Thom was wrong with when those Cards jerseys were worn

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:20 PM
Winker has pieced together 3 really good at bats his last 3 chances

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:20 PM
DP. Poop

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:21 PM
Bloopish oppo single by Geno

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 07:25 PM
Pool time. Might catch up to live late in the game [emoji3]

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 07:27 PM
Yeah, no way could a catcher play 1st base even though he has before

But why would you want him to, when there are better options?

Also, I want my last two catchers to get rest on days they don't have to start behind the plate, especially on oppressively hot days like these.

Coopdaddy67
07-20-2019, 07:30 PM
Yeah, no way could a catcher play 1st base even though he has before

Last night he caught through an excessive heat warning, which continues tonight. Makes perfect sense to give him the day off and the start tomorrow.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 07:30 PM
Thom was wrong with when those Cards jerseys were worn

Right. The powder blue Cardinals road uniforms were pullovers, not button ups, and they had "Cardinals" in script on the front, not "St. Louis".

They had never worn these in the past.

757690
07-20-2019, 07:55 PM
Right. The powder blue Cardinals road uniforms were pullovers, not button ups, and they had "Cardinals" in script on the front, not "St. Louis".

They had never worn these in the past.

Still, Mikolis in these, along with the mustache, is reminding me of Pete Vuckovich.

JCM11
07-20-2019, 07:59 PM
Are we going to get Castillo a run this game?

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 08:02 PM
Reds giving up the lead throughout history

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:08 PM
They're talking about the moon landing and the Astros.. I'm still ticked NASA didn't wait two days till my 10th birthday. The moon landing should have happened July 22, 1969 instead of July 20, 1969 so it happened on my 10th birthday.. THAT's why we don't get to have nice things Reds fans.. :laugh:

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:11 PM
Blame Neil Armstrong.. Shoulda waited 2 days.. Instead Puig hits into a double play.. :(
See how different history might have been?

I guess nobody's buying my lame excuses, huh? Well...pshaw!

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 08:15 PM
Jim Day and Chris are just lighting Thom up because he blew off an opportunity to go golfing with Neil Armstrong.

BCubb2003
07-20-2019, 08:17 PM
They're talking about the moon landing and the Astros.. I'm still ticked NASA didn't wait two days till my 10th birthday. The moon landing should have happened July 22, 1969 instead of July 20, 1969 so it happened on my 10th birthday.. THAT's why we don't get to have nice things Reds fans.. :laugh:

That would have been my 12th birthday.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 08:17 PM
4-6-yessiree-3!

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:18 PM
That would have been my 12th birthday.

Happy birthday then.. I'm planning to be extraordinarily(er than usual) lazy on Monday..

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:24 PM
Shocking I know, but that Bats are losing 5-3 against Wilkes-Barre... Make it 5-2

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:27 PM
Boo.. That is all..

JCM11
07-20-2019, 08:29 PM
Maybe the best play of the year by Iglesias.

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 08:29 PM
Excellent catch by Iglesias.

Hilarious wrong call by Thom.

and a DOUBLE PLAY...NO

Senzling Hot
07-20-2019, 08:37 PM
But why would you want him to, when there are better options?

Also, I want my last two catchers to get rest on days they don't have to start behind the plate, especially on oppressively hot days like these.

I think his point was play the hot hand. Which makes perfect sense. David Bell has the tendency to sit players after good games. If a player is hot especially with this offense you ride it until it is over. He very well could of went 0-4 with 4 ks. It really does not matter, the point is Bell has no clue how to manage a team and it shows

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 08:37 PM
Excellent catch by Iglesias.

Hilarious wrong call by Thom.

and a DOUBLE PLAY...NO

Actually a double wrong call,

"And that one will fall in...WHAT A CATCH! And a DOUBLE PLAY...NO!"

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:39 PM
Perhaps making Mikolas stand out on 2nd will pay off.. I hope so..

InsaneinthBrame
07-20-2019, 08:40 PM
Not sure about pulling Castillo here

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 08:40 PM
Actually a double wrong call,

"And that one will fall in...WHAT A CATCH! And a DOUBLE PLAY...NO!"

"And that one will fall in...WHAT A CATCH! And a DOUBLE PLAY...NO! And this one belongs to the Reds..IT'S ONLY THE 6TH INNING! Merry Christmas, everyone...wait IT'S JULY!

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 08:40 PM
Castillo coming out? I hate David Bell.

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:41 PM
Castillo over for the night? Hmmm.. Do we need to ask if Bell has lost his ever loving mind?

VR
07-20-2019, 08:42 PM
Castillo over for the night? Hmmm.. Do we need to ask if Bell has lost his ever loving mind?

Hmm, why is the bullpen trashed midway through the season? Such a joke.


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mamell
07-20-2019, 08:44 PM
Save em the injuries and send a cardboard cutout of Dietrich up to bat to be hit..

JCM11
07-20-2019, 08:45 PM
This is embarrassing.

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 08:45 PM
Mikolas drenched in sweat.

Thom: "Mikolas isn't even working up a sweat out there"

Kc61
07-20-2019, 08:47 PM
The Reds look hungover from last night’s disaster.

Which, you will recall, followed Thursday night’s disaster.

And so on.

mamell
07-20-2019, 08:47 PM
Maybe bell just wants the first pick of the draft and is determined to get it..and ownership is in total agreement..
At any rate I give up..going to go watch some movie I don't care about with the old woman.. Good night folks. Enjoy the game.

onehand
07-20-2019, 08:47 PM
Mikolas drenched in sweat.

Thom: "Mikolas isn't even working up a sweat out there"

As always, Thom is unaware that we are actually WATCHING THE GAME on TV. What an idiot.

Strikes Out Looking
07-20-2019, 08:48 PM
I wonder what this teams record would be with the same coaching staff and Riggelman?

ochoa30
07-20-2019, 08:49 PM
I wonder what this teams record would be with the same coaching staff and Riggelman?

Unless the players all played significantly better I doubt it would be much different.

RedTeamGo!
07-20-2019, 08:52 PM
Good grief this team is bad

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 08:53 PM
Unless the players all played significantly better I doubt it would be much different.

Riggleman isn't going to help nearly everyone in the lineup suddenly remember how to hit the ball.

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nice returning inning for Garrett.

ochoa30
07-20-2019, 08:55 PM
The thought of Votto for 5 more years is quite scary. They are going to need to find some big time offense from other positions if this is what hes gonna be going forward. I love the guy but a first basemen needs to bring some thunder.

InsaneinthBrame
07-20-2019, 08:55 PM
Who is going to pitch the 8th?

Kc61
07-20-2019, 08:55 PM
This is one of those games where Reds look demoralized.

They may not be, but they look that way.

Somebody needs to do something, maybe a long ball, something.

JCM11
07-20-2019, 08:56 PM
Who is going to pitch the 8th?

Sims and Lorenzen warming up.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 08:57 PM
How was that strike two?

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C’mon Puig, you’re supposed to be the star, take charge and do something here.

50YrRedsFan
07-20-2019, 08:58 PM
Unless the players all played significantly better I doubt it would be much different.

It all starts with the players. Last winter, the Reds went out and got some players, which was good, but still went on the cheap and picked up Duke, Dietrich, J. Iglesias. Roark has done a good job for a #3 or 4 starter, and Gray may be an unexpected steal, but the Reds didn't get the impact player or players needed to make a major difference. Until they do, you can expect things to stay about the way they are. To the Front Office, STAY OUT OF THE DUMPSTER.


Now back to the game.

Rolando
07-20-2019, 08:58 PM
How was that strike two?

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C’mon Puig, you’re supposed to be the star, take charge and do something here.

Cuz Angel Hernandez has no clue what he's doing LOL

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 09:00 PM
Puig!

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:01 PM
Yes, Puig. Clutch hit.

JCM11
07-20-2019, 09:01 PM
Puig ties it with a missile double.

I don't think House has held a runner at third this year lol.

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 09:01 PM
Puig!!!

Rolando
07-20-2019, 09:01 PM
How was that strike two?

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C’mon Puig, you’re supposed to be the star, take charge and do something here.

he showed he is a star :-)

BluegrassRedleg
07-20-2019, 09:02 PM
Puig hits the ball hard.


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Coopdaddy67
07-20-2019, 09:02 PM
Do. Not. Bunt.

BluegrassRedleg
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
Exit velo on that?


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Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
Thom wants JVM to bunt, but Chris dumps water on that idea.

Senzling Hot
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
Riggleman isn't going to help nearly everyone in the lineup suddenly remember how to hit the ball.

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nice returning inning for Garrett.

If Bell let Ward change the Reds philosophy of hitting, and Riggleman didn't it would. This whole launch angle approach imo has screwed everyone up. Ward was as bad a hire as Johnson was good.

JCM11
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
Play VanMeter everyday!

This kid is a keeper.

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
Vanmeter!

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:03 PM
JVM! JVM!

VanMeter hits his first big-league HR!

ochoa30
07-20-2019, 09:04 PM
Play this man more please!!

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:04 PM
VanMeter! Thatís my boy!

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:04 PM
Funny, Thom and Chris were totally consumed with Van Meter getting the runner to third.

I was thinking, let him just clobber the ball.

Great at bat for Van Meter who can hit.

50YrRedsFan
07-20-2019, 09:04 PM
At least Castillo can't lose this one. And maybe Garrett can get a win.

Rolando
07-20-2019, 09:05 PM
Funny, Thom and Chris were totally consumed with Van Meter getting the runner to third.

I was thinking, let him just clobber the ball.

Great at bat for Van Meter who can hit.

I would definitely move him around and try to play him everyday against right-handed pitching the rest of the year

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:05 PM
Hit for Peraza.

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:05 PM
He did hit the ball to the right side.

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 09:05 PM
Reds aren't the only team who can leave in their starter a bit too long.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:07 PM
I would definitely move him around and try to play him everyday against right-handed pitching the rest of the year

Well, I’d certainly play him more often.

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:08 PM
If Bell let Ward change the Reds philosophy of hitting, and Riggleman didn't it would. This whole launch angle approach imo has screwed everyone up. Ward was as bad a hire as Johnson was good.

It does seem odd that so many guys are performing well below their previous career norms.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:08 PM
Reds aren't the only team who can leave in their starter a bit too long.

Right. I wasnít that upset about Castillo coming out. Reds werenít scoring and every at bat counts late in the game.

Of course, they have their top relievers back, that helps too. But itís a risk, Castillo was pitching well. Tough call.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:09 PM
Funny, Thom and Chris were totally consumed with Van Meter getting the runner to third.

I was thinking, let him just clobber the ball.

Great at bat for Van Meter who can hit.

Thom was advocating for the bunt, but Chris wanted him to swing away.

JCM11
07-20-2019, 09:10 PM
Good base running by Peraza.

InsaneinthBrame
07-20-2019, 09:10 PM
Nice baserunning by Peraza.

mamell
07-20-2019, 09:10 PM
I was gonna go to bed, but things have changed for the time being..

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:11 PM
Thom was advocating for the bunt, but Chris wanted him to swing away.

Yeah - but Chris said pull it so you move the runner to third. Both were talking get the runner to third. And VM went yard, a better alternative!

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:11 PM
Thom is STILL advocating for the bunt from JVM.

BluegrassRedleg
07-20-2019, 09:14 PM
Thom is STILL advocating for the bunt from JVM.

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wally post
07-20-2019, 09:15 PM
Thom... foot in mouth.. backtracking on bunting and tries to absolve himself. I loathe that man. Go Reds and way to go V-Man

Strikes Out Looking
07-20-2019, 09:15 PM
Thom is STILL advocating for the bunt from JVM.

Isn't it time for tHom to go follow his favorite sport for his FOX sports gig? Shouldn't he be watching tapes of concussed quarterbacks and leave baseball fans alone?

mamell
07-20-2019, 09:17 PM
Now I'm goin to bed.. Sleep is one of those necessary evils I must endure.. G'night kids. Good luck and enjoy the game. This time I really, really, REALLY mean it....probably.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:18 PM
Lorenzen should be well rested after sitting most of the four game losing streak.

I guess Bell was trying to win without him, or something.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:21 PM
One out, one on. Lorenzen with an ill-timed walk.

And men in the booth, Lorenzen isn’t going to be a starter anytime real soon.

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Second and third on a double down the line.

Trouble.

ochoa30
07-20-2019, 09:22 PM
Not sure why anyone would walk Harrison Bader. Hes awful.

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 09:22 PM
Please don't tell me we're going to blow this game, too.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:24 PM
Ground out, 3-2 game. Not too bad, let’s get the third out.

Fly out, inning over.

NebraskaRed
07-20-2019, 09:25 PM
2019: The Year of the One-Run Games

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:26 PM
Even jerky!

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:29 PM
Way to get it started Winker!

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:29 PM
Winker doubles. Opposite field shot off the wall.

Senzel pinch runner and likely will play CF in ninth.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:29 PM
Psst, Jesse...Run out of the batter's box! :)

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:33 PM
Here is the situation where the Reds have failed all season.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:33 PM
Man on third, one out, for Suarez and Puig. Need the insurance.

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Here is the situation where the Reds have failed all season.

I’d argue for ten seasons. Forever.

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Suarez gets ahead and then a free pass. First and third for Puig.

Puig, you showed us you’re a star last time. Now be a superstar.

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 09:35 PM
Joey seems to be reverting to his earlier batting style. Last two at-bats have been outs but, he's hit the ball hard. I like it.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:35 PM
Thom complaining about pace of play.

He just can't enjoy a game.

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:36 PM
Man on third, one out, for Suarez and Puig. Need the insurance.

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I’d argue for ten seasons. Forever.

...and you’d get no argument from me about that.

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Swings at a pitch a foot outside.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:38 PM
Man on third, one out, for Suarez and Puig. Need the insurance.

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I’d argue for ten seasons. Forever.

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Suarez gets ahead and then a free pass. First and third for Puig.

Puig, you showed us you’re a star last time. Now be a superstar.

Ok, Puig, you’re only a star. C’mon Van Meter. Lines out, ninth inning, Raisel, no doubt.

stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:39 PM
Now VanMeter probably flies out to the warning track.

Red Raindog
07-20-2019, 09:41 PM
Now VanMeter probably flies out to the warning track.

Or hits a bullet right to the first baseman


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stein1214
07-20-2019, 09:41 PM
Leadoff double and don’t score...so Reds.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:41 PM
Hate to say it, but Cards playing fundamentally sound baseball. They managed that situation quite well.

But Reds still leading them 3-2, so let’s finish them off!

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Lorenzen still in there, ninth inning, surprise.

RedForLife
07-20-2019, 09:43 PM
Thom complaining about pace of play.

He just can't enjoy a game.

That pace of play crap is just that. My philosophy is if it's too slow, then don't go. I don't care if the game is 2 hrs. or 4 hrs. It's baseball.

paulrichjr
07-20-2019, 09:44 PM
Just curious. Why Lorenzen another inning?

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:44 PM
Strikeout O’Neill, nice pitch Lorenzen. One down.

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Just curious. Why Lorenzen another inning?

Dunno.

Save Iglesias until tomorrow?

Lorenzen is strong, hasn’t pitched as much as he should have recently?

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Two down for Lorenzen.

Kc61
07-20-2019, 09:47 PM
A win.

paulrichjr
07-20-2019, 09:47 PM
Just curious. Why Lorenzen another inning?

I’ll answer this. Because Bell was smarter than me there

FlightRick
07-20-2019, 09:51 PM
A 9 inning game that clocks in at 2 hours and 40 minutes. Yep, Thom, an unbearably tedious slog that proves just how much you suffer for your art.

[I must admit that I wasn't following along with the thread, but I appreciated that tonight somehow turned into a "Pick on Thom (even more than usual)" night. When Thom told the story of passing on a game of golf with Neil Armstrong, and Welsh and Day laid into him with impersonations of Thom's own alleged catchphrases was absolutely delightful.]

Tom Servo
07-20-2019, 09:54 PM
Nice to see a win, and kudos to those who watched it. I didn't have the stomach for it after last night, hopefully I'll be good for tomorrow.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 09:57 PM
That pace of play crap is just that. My philosophy is if it's too slow, then don't go. I don't care if the game is 2 hrs. or 4 hrs. It's baseball.


A 9 inning game that clocks in at 2 hours and 40 minutes. Yep, Thom, an unbearably tedious slog that proves just how much you suffer for your art.

[I must admit that I wasn't following along with the thread, but I appreciated that tonight somehow turned into a "Pick on Thom (even more than usual)" night. When Thom told the story of passing on a game of golf with Neil Armstrong, and Welsh and Day laid into him with impersonations of Thom's own alleged catchphrases was absolutely delightful.]

I would hate to go fishing with Thom. His complaining about the pace would be unbearable.

Mutaman
07-20-2019, 10:06 PM
We're now one game better than we were at this time last year. Where are all those doubters who say this rebuild isn't working?

stein1214
07-20-2019, 10:06 PM
Just curious. Why Lorenzen another inning?

Maybe Iglesias is being traded?

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:09 PM
Thom was wrong with when those Cards jerseys were worn

what did he say? i remember those unis from 74-76ish...the ted sizmore/bake mcbride era

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 10:09 PM
Is Piecoro coloring his hair? It looks darker than it used to.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 10:11 PM
Good win. Good team win. Nearly everyone pitched in. Big game by Vanmeter.

I want to credit Suarez for his good baserunning tonight. On that scorcher by Puig he scored from first ...had a great secondary lead, jump and was flying like Griffey in 95 ALDS to score.

Great seeing Senzel pinch run

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:12 PM
Jim Day and Chris are just lighting Thom up because he blew off an opportunity to go golfing with Neil Armstrong.

ha! neil wouldve been intrigued by thom's sparkling patter, i'm sure!

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 10:13 PM
what did he say? i remember those unis from 74-76ish...the ted sizmore/bake mcbride era

He said 90ís first and then late 80ís and listed players like Vince Coleman wearing them.

I was thinking mid 70ís to early 80ís....like 76-84

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:14 PM
Actually a double wrong call,

"And that one will fall in...WHAT A CATCH! And a DOUBLE PLAY...NO!"

he's just terrible

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 10:15 PM
But why would you want him to, when there are better options?

Also, I want my last two catchers to get rest on days they don't have to start behind the plate, especially on oppressively hot days like these.

I simply wanted him rewarded for his historic game with another start.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 10:17 PM
what did he say? i remember those unis from 74-76ish...the ted sizmore/bake mcbride era

It wasn't those uniforms. Tonight's Cardinals powder blues are "faux throwbacks". They may have been inspired by the 1976-84 road unis, but they aren't the same. The real powder blue uniforms were pullovers (not button ups), and had script "Cardinals" on the front (not script "St. Louis").

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 10:19 PM
I simply wanted him rewarded for his historic game with another start.

Lavarnway will be back out there tomorrow, and I would guess that he might see more action overall than Graterol.

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:20 PM
Thom... foot in mouth.. backtracking on bunting and tries to absolve himself. I loathe that man. Go Reds and way to go V-Man

thom terrible

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:23 PM
Thom complaining about pace of play.

He just can't enjoy a game.

he cant help it...he doesnt have much of an attention span.

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 10:24 PM
He said 90’s first and then late 80’s and listed players like Vince Coleman wearing them.

I was thinking mid 70’s to early 80’s....like 76-84

Yes. The 1976-84 Cardinals wore the powder blue pullover road uniforms. This was the uniform worn by the 1982 World Champions.

In 1985, they changed the road uniform to a gray version of the powder blues, and wore them through 1991. This was the uniform worn in the 1985 and 1987 World Series. (Vince Coleman was a rookie in 1985.)

In 1992, the Cards went to a button-up version of both the home and road uniforms, and introduced the navy blue road cap.

Ironman92
07-20-2019, 10:26 PM
Yes. The 1976-84 Cardinals wore the powder blue pullover road uniforms. This was the uniform worn by the 1982 World Champions.

In 1985, they changed the road uniform to a gray version of the powder blues, and wore them through 1991. This was the uniform worn in the 1985 and 1987 World Series. (Vince Coleman was a rookie in 1985.)

In 1992, the Cards went to a button-up version of both the home and road uniforms, and introduced the navy blue road cap.

And therefore Thom, never...ever saw Vince Coleman in said uniforms

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:26 PM
He said 90’s first and then late 80’s and listed players like Vince Coleman wearing them.

I was thinking mid 70’s to early 80’s....like 76-84

that sounds right. powder blue!

gagliano
07-20-2019, 10:28 PM
And therefore Thom, never...ever saw Vince Coleman in said uniforms

he was busy watching football

Big Klu
07-20-2019, 10:34 PM
And therefore Thom, never...ever saw Vince Coleman in said uniforms

For a whole lot of reasons! :thumbup:

A) Coleman never wore a powder blue Cardinals uniform.

B) The uniforms they wore tonight weren't the powder blues they wore, 1976-84.

Ron Madden
07-21-2019, 12:00 AM
Listening to the extra innings show on WLW with Chick Ludwick comes almost as close to torture as listening to Tracey Jones.

At least Chick talks about the game, too bad his knowledge of baseball goes to the wayside and he feels the need to parrot the rants of Marty or Thom.

He could be tolerable if he'd just be himself instead of repeating Marty's rants and trying to copy Ken Brio with the old music stuff. Be yourself Chick! It would work a lot better.
It's obvious you're a life long Reds fan, go with that and let it roll.

JaxRed
07-21-2019, 12:16 AM
For a whole lot of reasons! :thumbup:

A) Coleman never wore a powder blue Cardinals uniform.

B) The uniforms they wore tonight weren't the powder blues they wore, 1976-84.

Those were some ugly uniforms tonight.

Ron Madden
07-21-2019, 12:17 AM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cardinals-vs-reds/2019/07/20/565267#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565267

JaxRed
07-21-2019, 12:50 AM
Odds of Van Meter starting tomorrow? I say 20%