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cumberlandreds
07-22-2019, 02:07 PM
https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1153364350092140544/photo/1

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Ironman92
07-22-2019, 02:19 PM
Might as well win

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 02:28 PM
Reds 8
Brewers 4

JCM11
07-22-2019, 02:35 PM
Does anyone want to explain the logic of Peraza batting ahead of Ervin?

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 02:42 PM
Peraza some good babip of late....let him drive em in [emoji2371]

Both should get 4 PA

stein1214
07-22-2019, 02:53 PM
Anderson must be the reverse split guy, right?

gagliano
07-22-2019, 03:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1153364350092140544/photo/1

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you know you have problems when paraza is protecting puig.

NebraskaRed
07-22-2019, 03:45 PM
you know you have problems when paraza is protecting puig.

you know you have problems when you're in last place, 9 games out of 1st, and Juan Graterol is your catcher.

UPRedsFan
07-22-2019, 03:55 PM
Does anyone want to explain the logic of Peraza batting ahead of Ervin?

Yesterday's game with the bases loaded and nobody out and we get a pop up from Puig followed by 2 strikeouts. I was thinking Peraza is a guy who probably could have found a way to put the bat on the ball and get that run in from 3rd. Just hit it somewhere except "straight up in the air"

Ron Madden
07-22-2019, 05:02 PM
Lance McAlister
@LanceMcAlister
#Reds place on the 10-day injured list, retroactive to Saturday, Tyler Mahle (left hamstring strain) and recalled from Louisville Sal Romano (#47).
The Reds’ starting pitcher for Wednesday at Brewers is TBD

Rolando
07-22-2019, 05:20 PM
[QUOTE=Ironman92;3986227]Might as well win[/QUOTE
Absolutely let's win tonight and then let sweep the beer people

gagliano
07-22-2019, 05:24 PM
you know you have problems when you're in last place, 9 games out of 1st, and Juan Graterol is your catcher.

62 mets kind of stuff. where have you gone, chris cannizarro?

RedForLife
07-22-2019, 05:25 PM
Lance McAlister
@LanceMcAlister
#Reds place on the 10-day injured list, retroactive to Saturday, Tyler Mahle (left hamstring strain) and recalled from Louisville Sal Romano (#47).
The Reds’ starting pitcher for Wednesday at Brewers is TBD

Just for a brief instant there I was hoping your comment was going to say Alex Wood. Maybe they feel he needs 1 or 2 more outings to find his groove.

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 05:35 PM
Glad to see our best OF in the lineup.
IMO, our best OF regardless of the pitcher.

RedTeamGo!
07-22-2019, 06:01 PM
Perazza, Irvin, and Gatorade in the lineup?

https://i.imgflip.com/1tn0bg.jpg

Mitri
07-22-2019, 06:49 PM
https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1153364350092140544/photo/1

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Alex Trebek's birthday, nice.

My 2nd daughter's as well, she's 3.

A win is in order.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 06:52 PM
Perazza, Irvin, and Gatorade in the lineup?

https://i.imgflip.com/1tn0bg.jpg

On purpose?

JaxRed
07-22-2019, 06:55 PM
Hiura scratched. That's probably a good thing.

ochoa30
07-22-2019, 06:56 PM
Hiura scratched. That's probably a good thing.

Considering he just won player of the Week I would have to agree. Hes been smoking hot.

NebraskaRed
07-22-2019, 07:03 PM
Hiura scratched. That's probably a good thing.

and Braun in L.A. for Skaggs' funeral, so the Brewers are down two position players tonight.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 07:57 PM
and Braun in L.A. for Skaggs' funeral, so the Brewers are down two position players tonight.

Why so long after?

malcontent
07-22-2019, 08:06 PM
Anderson must be the reverse split guy, right?
yep

NebraskaRed
07-22-2019, 08:10 PM
Why so long after?

I misunderstood. It's a memorial service for him.

Ron Madden
07-22-2019, 08:10 PM
Cowboy is working with Thom tonight.

When Thom goes on one of his silly rants Cowboy will just Fan the flames.
Unlike Chris who tries to set Thom straight.

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 08:11 PM
Kinda wondering at what point we may see Votto slide to 5th or 6th in the order.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:14 PM
Not a common Votto pop out

50YrRedsFan
07-22-2019, 08:14 PM
Kinda wondering at what point we may see Votto slide to 5th or 6th in the order.

2020 season

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:15 PM
Kinda wondering at what point we may see Votto slide to 5th or 6th in the order.

Iíll guess about the same timeframe Brandon Phillips was

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 08:15 PM
Front Row Amy in the house tonight.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:16 PM
Chase looks pinpoint

malcontent
07-22-2019, 08:16 PM
Kinda wondering at what point we may see Votto slide to 5th or 6th in the order.
another half-swing out

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:16 PM
Front Row Amy in the house tonight.

Damnit you always beat me to her by a cleavage

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:20 PM
Cain at .673 OPS

....to start the series

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 08:22 PM
Cain at .673 OPS

....to start the series

Yikes. Did not realize.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:24 PM
Yikes. Did not realize.

Yeah heís been bad but great CF defense and very good baserunner

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:25 PM
Hiura scratched. That's probably a good thing.

Heís a tough tough out early in his career, thereís already enough danger in this lineup

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 08:26 PM
1-6-yessiree-3!

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:26 PM
Nice fielding Sonny!

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:30 PM
Cain a .362 Slugging%.....only 4 lower in MLB (that qualify with enough PA)

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 08:33 PM
Cain a .362 Slugging%.....only 4 lower in MLB (that qualify with enough PA)

Who is last?

NebraskaRed
07-22-2019, 08:34 PM
nice AB by Puig

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:34 PM
Good AB by Puig

Donít be swinging at pitcherís pitch Jose!

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:35 PM
Who is last?

Joe Panik .314

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:35 PM
Jesus mad at Puig lol

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 08:40 PM
Damn. Breaking ball, and Puig's caught by a mile.

mhs95_06
07-22-2019, 08:41 PM
One pitch differential from a strike 'em out, throw 'em out DP!

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:43 PM
Anderson hasnít had more than 6 strikeouts in a game yet this year......gotta put the ball in play better

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 08:44 PM
So now Votto is gripping the bat back down at the knob. He has been late on pitches all year and things making his swing longer is going to help...lol. On average it takes for every 1/2 inch of bat length the distance to square increase by 3%. If you have a youth player making solid contact but always to the opposite field or just foul, shorten their bat.

RedTeamGo!
07-22-2019, 08:47 PM
Joe Panik .314

Wow, he must be in a panik over thatís slugging %

davereds24
07-22-2019, 08:50 PM
So now Votto is gripping the bat back down at the knob. He has been late on pitches all year and things making his swing longer is going to help...lol. On average it takes for every 1/2 inch of bat length the distance to square increase by 3%. If you have a youth player making solid contact but always to the opposite field or just foul, shorten their bat.

I think he's using a shorter bat.

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 08:53 PM
Sonny Gray with a two-out infield single.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 08:54 PM
I would love to be GM for a week, trading Votto would be job 1.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:54 PM
I think he's using a shorter bat.

But he was choking up close to 3 inches at times, often 2

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 08:55 PM
W-T-F

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:55 PM
Weird with Votto but before the break he was hitting every fastball and was really quick. Turning on 95-97 some....weird it just left

JaxRed
07-22-2019, 08:55 PM
That was a weird reaction by him

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 08:56 PM
whoa, votto getting mad at gray like that is bush league. gray had the base stolen. no need for joey to swing if he didn't want to. then he completely shows up sonny with his reaction? weak.

joey needs to worry about himself (e.g. not stinking up the joint) and less about sonny gray, who is one of the few guys pulling their weight on this team.

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 08:56 PM
Where is Gray going?
Stealing third with 2 out?

Coopdaddy67
07-22-2019, 08:56 PM
I would love to be GM for a week, trading Votto would be job 1.

...and you'd fail.

davereds24
07-22-2019, 08:57 PM
Votto spent years hitting with Hamilton running the bases, that should not bother him. If Gray can take a free base he should.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 08:57 PM
Votto you prima donna. Concentrate on hitting the ball, not what the runners are doing. Unless the hit and run sign was on you do not have to swing.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:57 PM
Guessing Gray was going to 3rd....probably had a big shift and he thought it was easy money

Sonny should be mad Votto half ass swung again

Players are allowed to steal bases. He was running before the pitcher released the ball....why did that make Joey swing with no strikes???

malcontent
07-22-2019, 08:57 PM
That was a weird reaction by him
how so?

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 08:57 PM
Where is Gray going?
Stealing third with 2 out?

newsflash, there's many more ways to score from third than second with two outs. gray had the base stolen. and votto didn't have to swing (half-swing as usual) if he didn't want to.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 08:58 PM
exactly correct. Votto is a prima donna that should be gone. Looking at the replay both runners would have been safe by a mile. Then Joey could have made an easy out with 2 in scoring position instead of just one..

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 08:58 PM
sonny gray should take votto aside and tell him he better never show him up like that again.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 08:58 PM
Votto spent years hitting with Hamilton running the bases, that should not bother him. If Gray can take a free base he should.

Heís never ever liked a runner on 2nd moving around....possibly part of his rbi stuff some

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 08:59 PM
Guessing Gray was going to 3rd....probably had a big shift and he thought it was easy money

Sonny should be mad Votto half ass swung again

Players are allowed to steal bases. He was running before the pitcher released the ball....why did that make Joey swing with no strikes???

exactly. votto is now king of the half-swing. opposing pitchers must love it. he even practices half swings! practice makes perfect.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:00 PM
sonny gray should take votto aside and tell him he better never show him up like that again.

Gray pretty fiery...he might

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 09:01 PM
FANTASTIC that Jeff Brantley is calling out Votto for his attitude about the runners going.

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My money is on Sonny Gray hand to hand against snowflake Joey.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:02 PM
Gray pretty fiery...he might

yeah, i mean sonny might be 5-10, 180 on his best day ... but i bet he would kick joey's arse.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 09:03 PM
David Bell should do it, not Sonny Gray. He should bench Votto after this half inning. I benched my own sons when they played for me so no one is exempt.

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 09:03 PM
Guessing Gray was going to 3rd....probably had a big shift and he thought it was easy money

Sonny should be mad Votto half ass swung again

Players are allowed to steal bases. He was running before the pitcher released the ball....why did that make Joey swing with no strikes???

Was Senzel running with the pitch too. He was rounding 2nd before right after Votto hit the ball.
So was the steal on from the bench?? Weird. Bell gets a reluctant fist butt from Gray in dugout.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:03 PM
FANTASTIC that Jeff Brantley is calling out Votto for his attitude about the runners going.

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My money is on Sonny Gray hand to hand against snowflake Joey.

if votto was still the votto who actually produced, he might have room to act like that (but even then it would be weak). now? just worry about not being a weak link on this team, joe.

Gunner44
07-22-2019, 09:04 PM
Votto clearly isn't his old self. But he's more than earned to have a few controllable things, like base runners standing still, when he's batting. This is still his team.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:04 PM
yeah, i mean sonny might be 5-10, 180 on his best day ... but i bet he would kick joey's arse.

They donít have to fight....they can talk like grown men

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:04 PM
1-0 brewers. their hitter didn't hit weakly with 2 outs like votto.

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 09:04 PM
My money is on Sonny Gray hand to hand against snowflake Joey.
https://i.imgur.com/9s9Yk9U.jpg

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:05 PM
They don’t have to fight....they can talk like grown men

i agree.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:06 PM
Was Senzel running with the pitch too. He was rounding 2nd before right after Votto hit the ball.
So was the steal on from the bench?? Weird. Bell gets a reluctant fist butt from Gray in dugout.

Well Bell paddy cakes all of his players so heís not really ever shown a negative reaction to anything anyone has done

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 09:06 PM
Wrong Gunner44, no player "owns" the team. The fact that he might even feel that way is part of the problem

50YrRedsFan
07-22-2019, 09:07 PM
Votto has had little impact on Reds games this year. If someone else has the initiative to try to help the team, more power to him. Maybe that's is something this team needs.

Coopdaddy67
07-22-2019, 09:07 PM
Was Senzel running with the pitch too. He was rounding 2nd before right after Votto hit the ball.
So was the steal on from the bench?? Weird. Bell gets a reluctant fist butt from Gray in dugout.

Pretty sure Senzel just saw Gray go and he followed. Looked like he stuttered for a moment before going.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:07 PM
nice job sonny. dude must wonder what he has to do to win a game. pitches great at wrigley last week ... the reds made sure that yu darvish had one of the best outings of his career.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:07 PM
Votto clearly isn't his old self. But he's more than earned to have a few controllable things, like base runners standing still, when he's batting. This is still his team.

Why? Why? Runners canít take a base against a shift.

Why did he swing is the question. Gray has 2-3 steps in before the ball was released. Sonny didnít make him swing. Maybe Bell called a hit and run [emoji2371]

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:08 PM
even jerky!

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 09:09 PM
Wrong Gunner44, no player "owns" the team. The fact that he might even feel that way is part of the problem

Agree. The 225M/10yr contract is going to haunt the Reds at least for 4 more years.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:09 PM
even jerky!

My wife hates that commercial lol

Coopdaddy67
07-22-2019, 09:09 PM
Why? Why? Runners can’t take a base against a shift.

Why did he swing is the question. Gray has 2-3 steps in before the ball was released. Sonny didn’t make him swing. Maybe Bell called a hit and run [emoji2371]

He probably caught it out of the corner of his eye at the last moment. Hitters don't like it for that very reason, as it can screw up their swing after they're already committed.

That's especially true when you're not expecting it and I'm guessing Gray stealing 3B would be a huge shocker.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 09:10 PM
Yes Senzel was coached right at a young age. When the lead runner goes, you go as well.

One of my favorite calls as a coach was having runners on first and second. Have the batter "Square and Take" and send the runners. Result runners on second and third no outs.

Gunner44
07-22-2019, 09:10 PM
You're right, he doesn't own it. But as teams go in any sport the best player runs a lot of the team. Especially when he's a team player like Votto. He's not his old self, but he's still a leader, like it or not.

Rolando
07-22-2019, 09:10 PM
even jerky!

Boy Votto is done now there will be 5 threads about this lol

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:13 PM
He probably caught it out of the corner of his eye at the last moment. Hitters don't like it for that very reason, as it can screw up their swing after they're already committed.

That's especially true when you're not expecting it and I'm guessing Gray stealing 3B would be a huge shocker.

I get all of that but Joey has to see Gray leave way before he saw the pitch. Joey waits as long as anyone to swing. Regardless no reason for Joey to do any small theatrics towards Gray.

Ron Madden
07-22-2019, 09:13 PM
Boy Votto is done now there will be 5 threads about this lol

The game thread has turned into a Joey Votto bashing party.

Fil3232
07-22-2019, 09:13 PM
The Keepers of All That’s Good and Right are out for Votto tonight. Fun! :roll:

Bunting Bad
07-22-2019, 09:14 PM
Ok. Gas is expensive.

Sea Ray
07-22-2019, 09:16 PM
Was Senzel running with the pitch too. He was rounding 2nd before right after Votto hit the ball.
So was the steal on from the bench?? Weird. Bell gets a reluctant fist butt from Gray in dugout.

I think Gray left on his own and Senzel did as he was coached: when you see the guy in front of you going, you take off as well. I don't think it was a called play.

If runners going bothers Votto then he ought not be hitting second

Coopdaddy67
07-22-2019, 09:16 PM
I get all of that but Joey has to see Gray leave way before he saw the pitch. Joey waits as long as anyone to swing. Regardless no reason for Joey to do any small theatrics towards Gray.

MLB hitters will tell you that's not necessarily true if you're locked on the pitcher/the pitch.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:16 PM
My wife hates that commercial lol

it's just an awful commercial all around ... which makes it great.

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of course thom thought that was a home run.

Sea Ray
07-22-2019, 09:18 PM
The game thread has turned into a Joey Votto bashing party.

He is 0-3, the teams struggling to score runs, Joey's getting $25mill/yr and he just left a couple guys on. it makes sense that he's getting the heat

Rolando
07-22-2019, 09:18 PM
Phillip Ervin does not need to be starting against right-handers

fondfoat
07-22-2019, 09:19 PM
Votto you prima donna. Concentrate on hitting the ball, not what the runners are doing. Unless the hit and run sign was on you do not have to swing.

And here they come........

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:20 PM
You're right, he doesn't own it. But as teams go in any sport the best player runs a lot of the team. Especially when he's a team player like Votto. He's not his old self, but he's still a leader, like it or not.

I think he was still stewing about his foul pop out short of 3rd last time and just locked in focused like crazy and that affected him...but clueless as how it caused him to swing lol

2 at bats and 2 terrible swings...that eats at Joe. Heís wired different but he canít be mad at a runner running when his team canít score and heís not been driving much in. The guy is struggling. No clue why Bell hasnít given him a day or two off to try to help him.

Hope he gets some good happenings for himself soon.

50YrRedsFan
07-22-2019, 09:20 PM
Reds back in no offense mode.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:21 PM
The game thread has turned into a Joey Votto bashing party.

Well the camera isnít showing high enough to see much of Amy...itís definitely affecting me

Ron Madden
07-22-2019, 09:23 PM
Well the camera isn’t showing high enough to see much of Amy...it’s definitely affecting me

Blame Votto.

He’s being blamed for everything else

ochoa30
07-22-2019, 09:24 PM
Reds back in no offense mode.

I wasnt aware they ever came out of it

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:29 PM
it's just an awful commercial all around ... which makes it great.

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of course thom thought that was a home run.

Greatest FSO Reds commercials of all time:

5. UDF (Peach Ice Cream!)
4. Red Roof Inn (Multi-tasking!)
3. Laura's Lean (Even jerky!)
2. FarmersOnly.com (City folks just don't get it!)

And of course,
1. JTM with Bronson Arroyo and Chris Welsh (Together Again!)

malcontent
07-22-2019, 09:30 PM
Graterol looks like a good defensive catcher.

Gunner44
07-22-2019, 09:31 PM
Ironman I would agree he's still upset about his popup. Votto is one of the most unique players the mlb has ever seen when it comes to approach and the way he carries himself. I've screamed at him on TV countless times this year. But I always know he still knows about hitting than if I studied it for 100 years. His stance and bat look different as other have noticed tonight. Hopefully it's a move towards the old Votto we all love

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:32 PM
Well the camera isn’t showing high enough to see much of Amy...it’s definitely affecting me

I have a feeling that is on purpose.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:32 PM
MLB hitters will tell you that's not necessarily true if you're locked on the pitcher/the pitch.

Iíll take your word for it but Iíve never heard that.

But....if a hitter is locked in on the pitcher and doesnít see a runner at 2nd or say defenders in that same line of eye site.....and doesnít see runner take off to 3rd before release of ball and now he sees a runner thatís maybe 5-10 feet out of his direct line of site? His line of site isnít changing from arm slot release to where ball might be when he decides whether or not to swing.

Regardless canít say Iíve ever seen anyone but Votto be all perturbed about it.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:33 PM
Iglesias with a Heisey

Rantly
07-22-2019, 09:33 PM
That one was actually straight up in the air.

gagliano
07-22-2019, 09:33 PM
Votto clearly isn't his old self. But he's more than earned to have a few controllable things, like base runners standing still, when he's batting. This is still his team.

i respectfully disagree.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:34 PM
I have a feeling that is on purpose.

Wonder who complained lol? Maybe a Brewers playerís wife??? [emoji3]

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:35 PM
Nice one Juan

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 09:35 PM
I’ll take your word for it but I’ve never heard that.

But....if a hitter is locked in on the pitcher and doesn’t see a runner at 2nd or say defenders in that same line of eye site.....and doesn’t see runner take off to 3rd before release of ball and now he sees a runner that’s maybe 5-10 feet out of his direct line of site? His line of site isn’t changing from arm slot release to where ball might be when he decides whether or not to swing.

Regardless can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone but Votto be all perturbed about it.

I've never heard of it either. Which ML hitters tell us this?

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:36 PM
Címon Nick!

Sea Ray
07-22-2019, 09:36 PM
I do like Joey's new approach of grabbing the bat by the knob. I think it'll help him reach outside pitches

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:38 PM
Strike 1 pitch to Senzel was absolutely a ball

These umpires are awful. League wide.

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Senzel base hit makes it first and third for Votto with 2 outs

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:39 PM
Heís pretty slow lol

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:39 PM
Letís go Joe!

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 09:39 PM
Votto with no one to blame here. Gray should lose his #$#& if Votto doesn't get the run home.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:40 PM
Yeah...he was mashing 95 down middle a few weeks ago

mhs95_06
07-22-2019, 09:40 PM
Bell should give Senzel the steal sign!

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:40 PM
I’ll take your word for it but I’ve never heard that.

But....if a hitter is locked in on the pitcher and doesn’t see a runner at 2nd or say defenders in that same line of eye site.....and doesn’t see runner take off to 3rd before release of ball and now he sees a runner that’s maybe 5-10 feet out of his direct line of site? His line of site isn’t changing from arm slot release to where ball might be when he decides whether or not to swing.

Regardless can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone but Votto be all perturbed about it.

Joe Morgan hated for baserunners to run on the pitch when he was batting, so much so that Ken Griffey actually preferred to hit 7th so that he could steal a base now and then.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:40 PM
Votto with no one to blame here. Gray should lose his #$#& if Votto doesn't get the run home.

Nah, two wrongs donít make a right

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:40 PM
Joey!


Tie game!

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:41 PM
1-1. votto with an rbi single!

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 09:41 PM
Attaboy.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:41 PM
Good hands Joe

JCM11
07-22-2019, 09:41 PM
Votto delivers the 2 out rbi, and half the people on this thread are probably upset lol.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:41 PM
Weird ass pitch selection

davereds24
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
There's the 2 strike swing we were used to.

Fil3232
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
I’m sorry for some y’all that Votto did something good. Ts & Ps

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
Votto with a cheap single, but manages only 1 RBI.

#unacceptable
#mediocre
#notelite

Sea Ray
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
Votto delivers the 2 out rbi, and half the people on this thread are probably upset lol.

I guess that also means half are pleased...count me among the pleased

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
Suarez look good man

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:42 PM
ahh, this is music to the ears that votto is going back to his old approach. not sure why the hell he ever changed.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:44 PM
Quiet Thom

mhs95_06
07-22-2019, 09:44 PM
Joe Morgan hated for baserunners to run on the pitch when he was batting, so much so that Ken Griffey actually preferred to hit 7th so that he could steal a base no and then.

Because he didn't want to lose the big hole on the right side created by the first baseman having to hold the runner on!

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:44 PM
Geno K's looking on ball four.

JCM11
07-22-2019, 09:44 PM
Swing the bat Geno come on.

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 09:45 PM
Those pitch-takin' Redlegs!

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:45 PM
Gotta swing. He can bust that pitch but he rarely ever goes oppo anymore

Rantly
07-22-2019, 09:46 PM
ahh, this is music to the ears that votto is going back to his old approach. not sure why the hell he ever changed.

Interesting report from Jim Day, per Votto: “I thought I had things figured out but I was just wrong”

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:47 PM
Because he didn't want to lose the big hole on the right side created by the first baseman having to hold the runner on!

I just mentioned it because Ironman said he had not heard of anyone else ever having an issue with it.

Rantly
07-22-2019, 09:47 PM
Those pitch-takin' Redlegs!


Great location on that pitch.

davereds24
07-22-2019, 09:47 PM
So, people aren't allowed to question Votto's half swing approach and also be happy when he succeeds?

Rolando
07-22-2019, 09:48 PM
Geno K's looking on ball four.

It was a strike Jada has been a disappointment this year

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:48 PM
Big inning here for Sonny

malcontent
07-22-2019, 09:48 PM
Dunno if it will end up helping out, but I'm glad he's no longer choking up.

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 09:48 PM
Well Joey has earned his pay for tonight. ($150,000+)

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:49 PM
lol shut up Cain that was absolutely a strike

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:49 PM
Woohoo

Rolando
07-22-2019, 09:50 PM
lol shut up Cain that was absolutely a strike

Yeah it was a strike what was the strike on Suarez to people got to swing the bat for both teams

Gunner44
07-22-2019, 09:50 PM
Me and him make almost the same if you just move the decimal point too many places to the left!

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:50 PM
Yelich made to look foolish by Sonny

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Yeah it was a strike what was the strike on Suarez to people got to swing the bat for both teams

Nah, not the same location at all. The pitch to Suarez was well above the pitch to Cain

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:53 PM
Hell of a fifth inning from Sonny. Hopefully he has another one in him just like that

JCM11
07-22-2019, 09:53 PM
Gray keeps rolling along looking like a legit TOR starter.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:53 PM
Letís score

Rolando
07-22-2019, 09:53 PM
Yelich made to look foolish by Sonny

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Nah, not the same location at all. The pitch to Suarez was well above the pitch to Cain
you might be right next time in that situation I would prefer Suarez to swing the bat

The Operator
07-22-2019, 09:57 PM
Puig with a 2 strike hit and caught Yelich napping and turns it into a leadoff double

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 09:57 PM
big league puig!

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 09:57 PM
not so stupid right there

JCM11
07-22-2019, 09:57 PM
Puig picks the pocket of candy arm Yelich.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 09:58 PM
I still [emoji3531] Puig

Another moronic 0-2 pitch

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 09:58 PM
Puig with a single, but stretches it into a double.

#stupidwildhorse

stein1214
07-22-2019, 09:59 PM
I’d almost rather have Gray up right now, he might have a better chance to move Puig over to 3rd.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:00 PM
Peraza K's

1 out

JCM11
07-22-2019, 10:00 PM
Peraza with a brutal ab.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:00 PM
Puig picks the pocket of candy arm Yelich.

He stole it on Yelichís lack of awareness

stein1214
07-22-2019, 10:01 PM
Puig should just steal 3rd...that’s the only way he’s gonna get over there.

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:01 PM
Peraza with a brutal ab.
Situational hitting is not one of our strengths. Need a hit to get him in now.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:02 PM
Ervin singles then caught in a rundown but they can't get him


Okay now they call him out


What the hell?

stein1214
07-22-2019, 10:02 PM
Wow....

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:03 PM
Shouldíve sent Puig!!!!!

Why?

JCM11
07-22-2019, 10:03 PM
Terrible base running again by this team.

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 10:03 PM
Jesus.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:03 PM
What in the absolute hell was Ervin doing there

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:03 PM
Great hit

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:04 PM
pretty bad

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:04 PM
what the hell was ervin doing there? this team just finds ways to give gifts to the opposition.

JCM11
07-22-2019, 10:04 PM
Can't move a runner over to third with no outs then get caught in a run down after a hit. Losers gonna lose

stein1214
07-22-2019, 10:04 PM
If at first you don’t fail...try, try again.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:05 PM
Puig shouldíve been going down 3rd as defender was chasing Ervin to 1st.....shouldíve been close to halfway and watching him dive to tag

Puig IMO had 2 chances to score....the second more risky but ....

757690
07-22-2019, 10:05 PM
Ervinís had these issue his entire career, on the bases and in the field.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:06 PM
Terrible base running again by this team.

Worst in MLB

malcontent
07-22-2019, 10:06 PM
only the Reds

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:06 PM
it's almost like this is how you lead all of baseball in one-run losses. not saying they will lose tonight, but this is exactly why they lose so many close games. shooting themselves in the foot. very rarely is it the other team making a great play to win a close game. it's the reds making a boneheaded play to lose it.

Rolando
07-22-2019, 10:06 PM
what in the world is Delino DeShields doing on

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:07 PM
Ervin’s has had these issue his entire career, on the bases and in the field.
Yeah but we're gonna ignore that because it ruins the "Actually, Ervin is way better all around than Winker" story that some have been trying to get over on here.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:07 PM
Still canít Puig didnít score on that

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:07 PM
That was poor mechanics for a MLb umpire. If he thought he was safe it wanted to check the tag from the other ump he should have asked before he made the safe call. If the other ump says no you then give the safe call. If he says yes you ring him up.

Rantly
07-22-2019, 10:07 PM
only the Reds

No

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
bell goes out there and argues. he should look himself in the mirror and ask why his team has the worst fundamentals in all of mlb.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Pick em up Jose

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Worst in MLB

I would hesitate to say that unless I had seen enough of all the other teams as well.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Iglesias!!!!

2-1 Reds!

stein1214
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Iggy bails him out.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
iggy gives the reds a 2-1 lead! boom!

mhs95_06
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Puig should’ve been going down 3rd as defender was chasing Ervin to 1st.....should’ve been close to halfway and watching him dive to tag

Puig IMO had 2 chances to score....the second more risky but ....

Yes. Puig not his normally aggressive self!

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
Nicely done Iggy!

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 10:08 PM
I'll be damned. The seldom seen in captivity clutch hit! :eek:

And TWO of 'em tonight for the Redlegs.

Rantly
07-22-2019, 10:09 PM
Yeah but we're gonna ignore that because it ruins the "Actually, Ervin is way better all around than Winker" story that some have been trying to get over on here.

Sounds like you are happy when Ervin fails.

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 10:09 PM
Jose Iglesias with an RBI single.

#gettinjiggywithit

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:09 PM
Great pick up job by Jose Iglesias...this team isnít known for that

Good job Jose [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

Rolando
07-22-2019, 10:09 PM
good job Jose

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 10:09 PM
ERVIN DID NOTHING WRONG - Rolando is correct it is Deshields responsibility to call "BACK" when the backside defender cuts behind Ervin. When you round first you pick up the third base coach. First base coach has the backside protection, that is who was burned.

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:10 PM
I would hesitate to say that unless I had seen enough of all the other teams as well.
I tend to agree with this attitude but most base-running metrics say it's true and frankly I can believe it.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:10 PM
I would hesitate to say that unless I had seen enough of all the other teams as well.

It was a baserunning metric on baseball reference page a week ago

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:11 PM
Good job Puig and Iggy...Ervin blew his moment

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 10:12 PM
In looking at the DVR on the original camera angle, Arcia never touched Ervin.
Poor baserunning, but as Brantley said a great play by 2nd baseman to sneak in behind Ervin.

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 10:12 PM
It was a baserunning metric on baseball reference page a week ago

I learned about the metric system back in the 70's and early 80's.

#baseten

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:12 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190723/c154e39efeb5fa0e8cc30ba43c1ded59.jpg

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:13 PM
wow. alex wood tonight in chattanooga:

6 ip, 4 h, 1 er, 4 k, 0 bb.

85 pitches, 59 strikes.

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:13 PM
Ervin has also gotten caught like Yelich did last inning and giving up some extra bases by being lazy with the ball. Good thing is I would think his issues could be corrected.

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:13 PM
Sounds like you are happy when Ervin fails.
Nah I like Phil just fine.

JFLegal
07-22-2019, 10:13 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190723/c154e39efeb5fa0e8cc30ba43c1ded59.jpg

schlitter cleaning up bailey's mess i see.

malcontent
07-22-2019, 10:14 PM
I propose that we are, in fact, all Reds fans here.

Coachforyears
07-22-2019, 10:14 PM
Delino Deshields has the backside responsibility not Ervin

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:14 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190723/c154e39efeb5fa0e8cc30ba43c1ded59.jpg
Not really surprising.

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Sixth inning has not been good for us this year. Good to get the first out.

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 10:16 PM
ERVIN DID NOTHING WRONG - Rolando is correct it is Deshields responsibility to call "BACK" when the backside defender cuts behind Ervin. When you round first you pick up the third base coach. First base coach has the backside protection, that is who was burned.

How do we know that DeShields didn't do that?

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:16 PM
Sixth inning has not been good for us this year. Good to get the first out.

kaldaniels
07-22-2019, 10:16 PM
Not really surprising.

Of course the Bailey defenders who were here a week or so ago won’t show up to amend their statements given his current line. Most of us knew this was coming.

Rantly
07-22-2019, 10:16 PM
I propose that we are, in fact, all Reds fans here.

Yep, except those few that wait until late innings in a losing game to remind us all how terrible the Reds are.

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 10:17 PM
I propose that we are, in fact, all Reds fans here.

It feels like Winker fans vs people interested in Ervin getting a chance.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:18 PM
I donít know how this will end but Sonny Gray is flying up my favorite Reds chart

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:18 PM
Of course the Bailey defenders who were here a week or so ago won’t show up to amend their statements given his current line. Most of us knew this was coming.
I just remember one guy who said Homer and Sonny were basically having the same season, which was certainly A Take.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:19 PM
When Sonny spots that breaking ball it's beautiful

bigfoot52
07-22-2019, 10:20 PM
I don’t know how this will end but Sonny Gray is flying up my favorite Reds chart

Ditto on Gray. Especially after the Votto fiasco early in the game.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:20 PM
Thom wishing The Reds would send Gray back for the 7th after already being past 100 pitches

"There was a time..."

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:20 PM
I donít mind when Winker or Ervin play....I do mind when their poor baserunning or ho hum defense hurts us

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:21 PM
Sonny!!!!

Beautiful 6th inning, notches his 7th K. Great start.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:21 PM
When Sonny spots that breaking ball it's beautiful

Itís extra tight of late. Keep fixing that cap bill

BluegrassRedleg
07-22-2019, 10:21 PM
Sonny Gray :beerme:

RR1971
07-22-2019, 10:21 PM
Ditto on Gray. Especially after the Votto fiasco early in the game.

What did Votto do? I missed the first 5 innings.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:22 PM
It’s extra tight of late. Keep fixing that cap bill

Ya think there's something there?

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:22 PM
Thom wishing The Reds would send Gray back for the 7th after already being past 100 pitches

"There was a time..."

Not arguing what should or shouldnít be done.....but do you think Sonny would be ok to get through the 7th or not?

JCM11
07-22-2019, 10:22 PM
33.1 innings 6 ER in Gray's last 5 starts.

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:22 PM
What did Votto do? I missed the first 5 innings.

No no [emoji2359]

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:23 PM
Ya think there's something there?

He does it a lot but he doesnít only do it when he throws the curve

He looks great

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:25 PM
Can we go back to Grayís first start and read the moronic crap on that thread. Some usernames should be banned for 5 Sonny starts for their knee jerk ruining of that thread

mhs95_06
07-22-2019, 10:25 PM
Yep, except those few that wait until late innings in a losing game to remind us all how terrible the Reds are.

I don't think it is at all out of order for a fan to point out faults and foibles of the performance of the personnel of the team of which he is a fan. We are fans and commiserating over poor play.

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:25 PM
Good old fashioned anti stats discussion going on

Tom Servo
07-22-2019, 10:26 PM
Good old fashioned anti stats discussion going on
18 AB sample size, brother you better believe that proves exactly whatever my point is!

The Operator
07-22-2019, 10:26 PM
Not arguing what should or shouldn’t be done.....but do you think Sonny would be ok to get through the 7th or not?

It's quite possible that he'd have another quick inning. But he's also be pushing 120 pitches and he's not a big guy so I'm probably turning it over to the pen if it's my call.

Big Klu
07-22-2019, 10:27 PM
Votto with another weak single. Can't deliver the RBI.

#notelite

Ironman92
07-22-2019, 10:27 PM
Votto [emoji122][emoji122]

Címon Suarez