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Ironman92
07-30-2019, 01:09 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190730/510297d002cec8acc2bb2c7ec7e3898f.jpg

Rolando
07-30-2019, 01:18 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190730/510297d002cec8acc2bb2c7ec7e3898f.jpg

Cue Big Klu. ;)

cumberlandreds
07-30-2019, 01:19 PM
The Pirates Retro lineup for today:

Pittsburgh Pirates
Stennett 2b
Oliver cf
Clemente rf
Stargell lf

Hebner 3b
Sanguillen c
Robertson 1b
Alley ss
Blass p


This was the Pirate lineup from 2nd MLB game I ever attended. It was May 6, 1972. Unfortunately the Reds were blassted (pun intended) that day 8-1. Joe Morgan hit a solo HR for the Reds only run. I was fortunate enough to see Pedro Borbon get one of his four starts in his MLB career that. It didn't go well.

klw
07-30-2019, 01:21 PM
With this lineup and the starting pitching they have gotten, how is this team not at least 10 games over .500?

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 01:24 PM
Cue Big Klu. ;)

Itís truly asinine

Would Farmer bat 9th if he was playing 1st or 2nd?

Rolando
07-30-2019, 01:28 PM
It’s truly asinine

Would Farmer bat 9th if he was playing 1st or 2nd?

I agree I was just being funny

cumberlandreds
07-30-2019, 01:28 PM
It’s truly asinine

Would Farmer bat 9th if he was playing 1st or 2nd?

Wile E. David Bell, Super Genius

SomeCallMeTim
07-30-2019, 01:40 PM
Wile E. David Bell, Super Genius

ACME lineup service...


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Big Klu
07-30-2019, 02:11 PM
Cue Big Klu. ;)


It’s truly asinine

Would Farmer bat 9th if he was playing 1st or 2nd?


I agree I was just being funny

There's nothing to say at this point.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 02:48 PM
There's nothing to say at this point.

I agree with you I was just busting your chops I don't understand it either

Rantly
07-30-2019, 03:32 PM
Itís truly asinine

Would Farmer bat 9th if he was playing 1st or 2nd?

Catcher bats 9th, or 8th but 9th in some situations, dude!

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JimDayTV/status/1156287713441734659?s=20

powersackers
07-30-2019, 03:56 PM
I see David Bell found the website random.org

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klw
07-30-2019, 04:09 PM
https://twitter.com/JimDayTV/status/1156287713441734659?s=20

In Oakland Coliseum that would be sewage.


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DocRed
07-30-2019, 04:51 PM
Forecast getting worse...

Kc61
07-30-2019, 05:39 PM
If a trade for Roark was pending, no way would he pitch tonight. Risk of injury which would mess up the trade.

So any deal is still uncertain, perhaps to be finalized on deadline day.

Gandalf the Red
07-30-2019, 06:08 PM
If a trade for Roark was pending, no way would he pitch tonight. Risk of injury which would mess up the trade.

So any deal is still uncertain, perhaps to be finalized on deadline day.

I'd push Roark back a day. Partly to avoid the injury possibility, and maybe to generate additional buzz.

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 06:19 PM
Maybe the trade partner(s) want one more look at him....

JCM11
07-30-2019, 06:23 PM
Maybe the trade partner(s) want one more look at him....

161 career starts and 20 this year isn't enough?

mgbrown66
07-30-2019, 06:40 PM
I’m souring on Winker lately. I’d rather see VanMeter or Ervin in LF.

OR Ervin in LF and VanMeter at 2b.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 06:48 PM
Rob Biertempfel
@RobBiertempfel
#Pirates announce they have suspended bullpen coach Euclides Rojas for two games due to "violation of his contract."

Rojas will miss the games tonight and tomorrow.

Last week they suspended Keone Kela for some violation of his contract.



Rob Biertempfel
@RobBiertempfel

To review ... since the All-Star break, the #Pirates have:

💥Suspended their bullpen coach
💥Suspended Kela after clubhouse altercation
🆘Traded Lyles for Double-A pitcher
📉Gone 2-15 to settle at bottom of NL Central

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 06:57 PM
161 career starts and 20 this year isn't enough?

162 and 21. Magic numbers....

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I would love to hear what scouts are in attendance.

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:12 PM
Roark gets first batter out easily. Trade value soars.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:14 PM
Roark gets first batter out easily. Trade value soars.

Double to second batter. Trade value disappears.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:14 PM
Reds lucky that bounce to the right off the RF fence didn't go for a one out triple.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:15 PM
How many times has Geno done that in the past month?

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:15 PM
Rare base hit that does not advance the runner. And puts the DP in order.

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:16 PM
Puig wasn't going after it quickly.

Not a great play by Suarez

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 07:16 PM
Dangerous spot, Josh Bell with 2 runners on.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:16 PM
How many times has Geno done that in the past month?

Had no chance without trying it.

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 07:18 PM
How many times has Geno done that in the past month?

Tough play, for certain, but I just started to post the exact same thought. He's come up empty on a ton of those lately.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 07:18 PM
Yup, that seemed likely to happen. 2 run double by Bell.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:19 PM
2-0 Pirates. Roark will no longer be traded, and instead will be DFAd after the third inning.

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 07:19 PM
Because, of course, right before the deadline.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:19 PM
Going 3-0 caused Roark to have to throw 3 over the plate and the last one got hit good for 2 rbis.

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 07:19 PM
Right down broadway to Bell.

malcontent
07-30-2019, 07:20 PM
Well, of course. (Said in the manner of Robert Durst, immediately after saying "I killed them all...")

Though I see now that BluegrassRedleg beat me to it.

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:20 PM
Tanner loves the Reds....trying to stay!!

Gandalf the Red
07-30-2019, 07:20 PM
2-0 Pirates. Roark will no longer be traded, and instead will be DFAd after the third inning.

I really wish the Reds would just do what I tell 'em to do.

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 07:22 PM
Tanner loves the Reds....trying to stay!!

I'd take him. Just sayin... :p

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:23 PM
Reds only scored in two innings last night. I think to win they need to score in more than that tonight. 1st inning is best chance for runs.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:23 PM
Da Wink with Da Single

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:24 PM
Nice hit by Winker

JCM11
07-30-2019, 07:27 PM
What on earth was that swing by Votto?

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:29 PM
Dickerson was dickersoning around out there and let Suarez get to second.

adkindo
07-30-2019, 07:29 PM
Winker got dirty for nothing

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:29 PM
Dickerson forfeits his chance at Gold Glove...

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 07:30 PM
Nice 0-2 pitch for Geno.

NCReds
07-30-2019, 07:31 PM
Reds hitters really coming after this pitcher... all batters so far have swung at first pitch

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:31 PM
Dickerson was dickersoning around out there and let Suarez get to second.

If Senzel had been on first, he would have scored.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 07:31 PM
Puig pressing again, bleh

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 07:31 PM
What a terrible at bat

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
Dang Puig.
Good chance like last night.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
Reds blow a chance to score

adkindo
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
have to get at least 1 run in that situation

TheBigLebowski
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
Trade chips performing poorly tonight.

malcontent
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
All the guys on the block don't want to leave....

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:32 PM
Reds hitters really coming after this pitcher... all batters so far have swung at first pitch

Radio says its becasue the batting avg off Musgrove is well over .350 on first pitches and is less than .200 if they take a first pitch strike.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:33 PM
Puig and Scooter giving two awful ABs.

Puig was pressing. Scooter was...I don't know what.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 07:33 PM
5 of 6 swung at the first pitch?

Takes about 2-3 hitters to figure out that Rubikís cube

NCReds
07-30-2019, 07:33 PM
Last two pitches of that inning were nowhere close to being a strike and we swing at both of them. PATIENCE.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 07:34 PM
Last two pitches of that inning were nowhere close to being a strike and we swing at both of them. PATIENCE.
I didn’t swing at anything

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:35 PM
Puig the key villain in not scoring there! Trying to do more than score at least one and keep the line moving.

Coopdaddy67
07-30-2019, 07:35 PM
Trade chips performing poorly tonight.

In their defense, their minds are probably all over the place right now.

I doubt Roark really knew if he was going to be a Red tonight before he walked out to the bullpen to get ready to start.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:36 PM
Last two pitches of that inning were nowhere close to being a strike and we swing at both of them. PATIENCE.

Pirates recognized the Reds first pitch strategy.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 07:37 PM
Why is vanmeter not playing second base?

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 07:37 PM
Puig and Scooter giving two awful ABs.

Puig was pressing. Scooter was...I don't know what.

I wouldn't be critical of Scooter for grounding out.
Puig's AB was a gift for the Pirates.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:39 PM
Pirates go 1-2-3 in the 2nd. Roark's trade value rebounds slightly.

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 07:41 PM
WTG Nick!

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:42 PM
5 of 6 swung at the first pitch?

Takes about 2-3 hitters to figure out that Rubikís cube

All 5 hitters swung at the first pitch, Votto and Puig fouled theirs off and subsequently made outs. Gennett the only one to make an out on the first pitch.

adkindo
07-30-2019, 07:43 PM
why does Senzel and VanMeter (when he plays) not lead off?

NCReds
07-30-2019, 07:48 PM
Good AB tanner.

NCReds
07-30-2019, 07:51 PM
Back-to-back lead off doubles, 0 runs.

Eh

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 07:52 PM
It is insane to me Roark is not only still on the reds but is not sitting tonight just in case.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:52 PM
Reds did score 11 last night. We know what usually happens after that.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:56 PM
where was Roark on that one?

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Nice pick by Votto saved a double

Gandalf the Red
07-30-2019, 07:56 PM
It is insane to me Roark is not only still on the reds but is not sitting tonight just in case.

Yes. I think it's crazy stupid. It's a big risk and the upside seems limited.

NC Reds
07-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Reynolds moves better than I remembered at Vandy. Having said that, Roark messed that one up.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:57 PM
All 5 hitters swung at the first pitch, Votto and Puig fouled theirs off and subsequently made outs. Gennett the only one to make an out on the first pitch.

Suarez fouled off the first pitch and subsequently got a hit. Only Scooter swung at a ball on the 1st pitch. All first pitches were fastballs except a slider to Puig.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 07:57 PM
Roark a late jump and it cost him

malcontent
07-30-2019, 07:57 PM
Bet the Giants wish they had Reynolds back.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 07:57 PM
Nobody would trade for Roark after being late coming off the mound.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Nice pick by Votto saved a double

Iíd never count out Puig busting over and making an insane throw to give it a chance

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Back-to-back lead off doubles, 0 runs.

Eh

Winker's hit was a single.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 08:02 PM
Nobody would trade for Roark after being late coming off the mound.

Maybe that's why he was late, had a fleeting thought just as the ball was hit that he was traded and shouldn't get hurt busting it to 1B. LOL

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Moran GS two nights in a row?

JaxRed
07-30-2019, 08:04 PM
Morosi just tweeted that interest is picking up for Puig . Guess they didn't see his first at bat

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:05 PM
Big strikeout

ochoa30
07-30-2019, 08:05 PM
Big K. Need another big out here.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:05 PM
Morosi just tweeted that interest is picking up for Puig . Guess they didn't see his first at bat

if he hits a single in his next at bat, any team will give up their top 5 prospects for him.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:06 PM
ugh

JCM11
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Suarez is killing us tonight.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Going back and forth between this game and the democratic debate on CNN. What will John Hickenlooper say? How will Steve Bullock excite his supporters?

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Geno should have had it.

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Jesus. That's a good pitch. C'mon, Suarez. Gotta come up with that.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
The two threat innings for Roark, he failed to get out of it on big 2 out hits.

ochoa30
07-30-2019, 08:07 PM
Geno should have had it.

At minimum he needs to knock it down

malcontent
07-30-2019, 08:08 PM
Pull him, NOW.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 08:08 PM
Going back and forth between this game and the democratic debate on CNN. What will John Hickenlooper say? How will Steve Bullock excite his supporters?

I'm solidly on the Reds game.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:09 PM
Pull him, NOW.
Why?

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:09 PM
Pull him, NOW.

at 60+ pitches in the third, he ain't gonna stay in the game long anyway.

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 08:09 PM
Not Geno's best there at 3B.

JCM11
07-30-2019, 08:09 PM
Let's face it we weren't going to get a premium prospect for Roark any way.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:10 PM
I honestly can't tell if everyone is being sarcastic or not, but Roark's trade value is not dependent on how he pitches in this one game tonight.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:10 PM
Let's face it we weren't going to get a premium prospect for Roark any way.
This one start also isn't that important vis a vis his trade value, I figured most posts to that effect were jokes but some seem serious.

bigfoot52
07-30-2019, 08:10 PM
Let's face it we weren't going to get a premium prospect for Roark any way.

Doubtful if anyone will make a decent offer.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 08:11 PM
Reds fail to score after two lead-off hits and Pirates score 5 on 2 out hits.

ochoa30
07-30-2019, 08:11 PM
I honestly can't tell if everyone is being sarcastic or not, but Roark's trade value is not dependent on how he pitches in this one game tonight.

Yeah, it wasnt going to be that great either way. Hes decent at best. Teams knew that before the start, lol

Redsfan6272
07-30-2019, 08:12 PM
Down 5-0, trade value nose dived sigh

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:12 PM
Certainly not great by Roark but it should have been left at 2-0 if Suarez does what he should have.

Bats gotta get going.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 08:12 PM
Reds fail to score after two lead-off hits and Pirates score 5 on 2 out hits.

3 runs on two out hits

malcontent
07-30-2019, 08:13 PM
Why?
I dunno, I'd shine the apple I'm trying to sell, not give it a roll in the dirt.

Let's be real...if he went 7 shutout innings (not likely, I know), potential buyers wouldn't take notice?

Rolando
07-30-2019, 08:15 PM
I dunno, I'd shine the apple I'm trying to sell, not give it a roll in the dirt.

I'll give the other 29 teams baseball alot more credit then that

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:15 PM
I dunno, I'd shine the apple I'm trying to sell, not give it a roll in the dirt.
Nobody's decision to trade for Roark was hinging on this start.

JCM11
07-30-2019, 08:15 PM
Probably a mistake to start Roark tonight given all the rumors. IDK

Gandalf the Red
07-30-2019, 08:16 PM
This one start also isn't that important vis a vis his trade value, I figured most posts to that effect were jokes but some seem serious.

Yeah, you're probably right. But I'd have still held him back one day.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:17 PM
I'll give the other 29 teams baseball alot more credit then that

Maybe not the Mets.

malcontent
07-30-2019, 08:17 PM
Probably a mistake to start Roark tonight given all the rumors. IDK
We knew his focus could be off a bit.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:18 PM
Votto! :jump:

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 08:18 PM
Votto with a long homer to right!

JCM11
07-30-2019, 08:18 PM
Dang, Joey swelling up.

adkindo
07-30-2019, 08:19 PM
Joey goes Deep!

NC Reds
07-30-2019, 08:19 PM
Wow. Votto with the rare hard pull HR.

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 08:19 PM
Roark didn't help himself there with two walks and failing to cover first base

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:19 PM
Joey Votto with a home run, but only 1 RBI.

#notelite

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 08:21 PM
Nice to see him turning on the ball again. That was a bomb.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:21 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 279
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Eugenio Suarez - 122
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Redeye fly
07-30-2019, 08:21 PM
With the different kind of Joey Votto we now have it's still interesting that of his 10 home runs now only 2 have been at home.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 08:22 PM
Nobody's decision to trade for Roark was hinging on this start.

This

NCReds
07-30-2019, 08:22 PM
Puig gonna blow up if he strikes out again I feel like.....

Redeye fly
07-30-2019, 08:23 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 279
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Dan Driessen - 133
20. Reggie Sanders - 125
21. Eugenio Suarez - 122
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

I don't see it happening but it would be cool if he ties or passes Perez before the year ends. He will next year anyway.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:23 PM
Puig's bat looks slow right now.

Redeye fly
07-30-2019, 08:24 PM
Puig gonna blow up if he strikes out again I feel like.....

I wonder if Puig slumping a bit again is just Puig being Puig or a normal slump... or the looming trade deadline. Can't be easy on any player on any team unless they absolutely want to get out of a place. Pretty sure Yasiel kind of likes Cincy.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 08:25 PM
Roark didn't help himself there with two walks and failing to cover first base

yep that inning really was nobody's fault but his own

malcontent
07-30-2019, 08:29 PM
OK. I really wouldn't let him face Reynolds again. Bell.

:bang:

JCM11
07-30-2019, 08:31 PM
Get the pen ready.

ochoa30
07-30-2019, 08:31 PM
What a horrible start. Meh.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:32 PM
Well we will not look back fondly on Roark’s last Reds start if he’s traded.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:34 PM
4-yessiree-3!

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 08:35 PM
It amazes me how inept this organization is. It is absolutely ridiculous Roark started this game.

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Tanner Roark's final start before the Trade Deadline: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 2 K. His ERA (4.24) is above 4.00 for the first time since May 4. #Reds

Absolutely inept front office.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
Well we will not look back fondly on Roarkís last Reds start if heís traded.

I worry several have already jumped off the cliff and wonít be around

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
It amazes me how inept this organization is. It is absolutely ridiculous Roark started this game.

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Tanner Roark's final start before the Trade Deadline: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 2 K. His ERA (4.24) is above 4.00 for the first time since May 4. #Reds

Absolutely inept front office.

I really don't think that his trade value was affected one bit by tonight's start. He's had a long career. He's had a pretty good year this year.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 08:39 PM
It amazes me how inept this organization is. It is absolutely ridiculous Roark started this game.

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Tanner Roark's final start before the Trade Deadline: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 2 K. His ERA (4.24) is above 4.00 for the first time since May 4. #Reds

Absolutely inept front office.
come on man

Coopdaddy67
07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
It amazes me how inept this organization is. It is absolutely ridiculous Roark started this game.

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Tanner Roark's final start before the Trade Deadline: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 4 BB, 2 K. His ERA (4.24) is above 4.00 for the first time since May 4. #Reds

Absolutely inept front office.

I really don't think there was much of a downside. Pretty easy to attribute a bad performance to trade rumors and uncertainty over whether he'd even start the game. Meanwhile, a dominating performance may have gave a contending team a little kick in the right direction.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
Purple-hair power

NC Reds
07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
More purple hair for Jose!

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 08:40 PM
Wow Upper Deck shot for Iglesias

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
I really don't think that his trade value was affected one bit by tonight's start. He's had a long career. He's had a pretty good year this year.

If you don’t think FOs are going to use this start as leverage (if they are even still interested) I don’t even know what to say.

Redeye fly
07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
Man... Iglesias absolutely destroyed that ball.

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
Iglesias. Goes BOOM!!!

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
Iglesias bomb lol

7 people on here are happy

adkindo
07-30-2019, 08:41 PM
Jose jacked that one

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 08:42 PM
come on man

He already had established value this year. There was absolutely nothing to gain from starting him tonight. It was dumb and smart teams would have sat him.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:42 PM
Jose Iglesias upper deck!

#gettinjiggywithit

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 08:42 PM
If you don’t think FOs are going to use this start as leverage (if they are even still interested) I don’t even know what to say.

They're smarter than that

adkindo
07-30-2019, 08:42 PM
why is it so foggy?

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:43 PM
If you donít think FOs are going to use this start as leverage (if they are even still interested) I donít even know what to say.

Any good negotiator would use anything they could for leverage. Unless he gets injured, nothing he did well or poorly in tonight's game would substantially change any trade talk.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 08:43 PM
Mike Leake going tonight for the Mariners....if he goes 8 innings with 7 K and no runs and 3 hits.....do the Yankees swipe him up and give Mariners Torres and Judge?

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:47 PM
If you don’t think FOs are going to use this start as leverage (if they are even still interested) I don’t even know what to say.

Tony D'Annunzio: "I ain't paying no 50Ę for no Coke!"

Danny Noonan: "Then you ain't getting no Coke!"

https://y.yarn.co/1c8a96ef-8abe-4471-a121-8097169866eb_screenshot.jpg

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 08:49 PM
why is it so foggy?

Smoke from the fireworks

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 08:49 PM
why is it so foggy?

Probably smoke from the fireworks after J.Iggy's home run.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:50 PM
why is it so foggy?

smoke from Roark's entire career going up in flames because of tonight's start.

ochoa30
07-30-2019, 08:52 PM
The minute Welsh brought up power you knew he'd homer, lol

malcontent
07-30-2019, 08:52 PM
Mike Leake going tonight for the Mariners....if he goes 8 innings with 7 K and no runs and 3 hits.....do the Yankees swipe him up and give Mariners Torres and Judge?
Now you're just being silly.

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 08:52 PM
Tony D'Annunzio: "I ain't paying no 50Ę for no Coke!"

Danny Noonan: "Then you ain't getting no Coke!"

https://y.yarn.co/1c8a96ef-8abe-4471-a121-8097169866eb_screenshot.jpg

Haha! I just thought of this scene yesterday. Love that quote.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 08:53 PM
Reds just need a couple of 10-run innings and they'll win this one.

Alabama
07-30-2019, 08:56 PM
It is insane to me Roark is not only still on the reds but is not sitting tonight just in case.

Itís absolutely befuddling. I just donít see how this organization continues to make wrong decision after wrong decision.

malcontent
07-30-2019, 09:02 PM
Tanner Roark's ERA before Bell let him implode in Denver for 7 ER and 13 hits in 4.2 IP (three starts ago): 3.51.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:03 PM
Tanner Roark's ERA before Bell let him implode in Denver for 7 ER and 13 hits in 4.2 IP (three starts ago): 3.51.

Kinda think that Roark had something to do with that.

Ron Madden
07-30-2019, 09:05 PM
I can't do this.. I'm outta here to watch the game

Redeye fly
07-30-2019, 09:05 PM
It’s absolutely befuddling. I just don’t see how this organization continues to make wrong decision after wrong decision.

Starting him tonight is probably worthy of second guessing. Believing it insane that he's still on the team is over the top. One of the comments and observations I've seen made over and over is thus far it's a buyer's market more than a seller's. Teams thus far haven't given up all that much in the moves that have been made. A team isn't going to give up a lot for a bottom of the rotation starter who is a rental to begin with. So if they're supposed to have traded him by now "just because", I guess they could have done that. But when the magic beans they get back don't grow anything worth harvesting it becomes hard to complain about it at that point.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 09:06 PM
After 5/26 win vs Cubs Roark ERA was 3.20, shouldíve shut him down there and wrapped in bubble wrap so we couldíve had the 86th best player in the minors instead of the 109th

malcontent
07-30-2019, 09:08 PM
Kinda think that Roark had something to do with that.
OK, may have been collusion.

REDREAD
07-30-2019, 09:15 PM
So, if the Reds are trying to market Roark, why start him against the Pirates, who can stack their lineup with left handed hitters.
They had a graphic on the TV that said that LH hitters have over a 400 OBP going into the game tonight.
Worst of any pitcher in the league. They also said Roark gives up the highest OPS vs Lefties.

I would say that I hope this is a reality check to the FO, but I doubt it is.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:15 PM
wonder if Sims will go out for one more inning.

RedForLife
07-30-2019, 09:17 PM
So, if the Reds are trying to market Roark, why start him against the Pirates, who can stack their lineup with left handed hitters.
They had a graphic on the TV that said that LH hitters have over a 400 OBP going into the game tonight.
Worst of any pitcher in the league. They also said Roark gives up the highest OPS vs Lefties.

I would say that I hope this is a reality check to the FO, but I doubt it is.

They're all in the Castellini box having cocktails counting money.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 09:22 PM
Puig 0 for his last 14....

Bell just canít figure to give him a day off ever and heís shown signs of needing one for nearly two weeks.

Meanwhile Ervin is 9 for last 22 off of righties but turning into dust waiting on a lefty starter

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:22 PM
They're all in the Castellini box having cocktails counting money.

What a quality post smh

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:22 PM
wonder if Sims will go out for one more inning.

guess not. Stephenson is in.

RedForLife
07-30-2019, 09:24 PM
What a quality post smh

No sense of humor during a losing effort, Professor Perfect?

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:24 PM
No sense of humor during a losing effort, Professor Perfect?

I do enjoy funny things that just wasn't funny

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:25 PM
I do enjoy funny things that just wasn't funny

congratulations on getting tenure, Professor Perfect.

BluegrassRedleg
07-30-2019, 09:26 PM
Duvall just hit his 2nd HR of the night for ATL, 3rd since getting recalled.


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RedseatHR
07-30-2019, 09:28 PM
Don’t pitch to Corey Dickerson guys

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:28 PM
I'm starting to think the Reds won't win this game.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 09:29 PM
Duvall just hit his 2nd HR of the night for ATL, 3rd since getting recalled.


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Mustíve forgot how to pitch to him

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:29 PM
congratulations on getting tenure, Professor Perfect.

LOL thank you it's definitely the first time I've been called perfect

50YrRedsFan
07-30-2019, 09:29 PM
Duvall just hit his 2nd HR of the night for ATL, 3rd since getting recalled.


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3 HR in 16 ab.....hitting .417

malcontent
07-30-2019, 09:30 PM
After 5/26 win vs Cubs Roark ERA was 3.20, should’ve shut him down there and wrapped in bubble wrap so we could’ve had the 86th best player in the minors instead of the 109th
He's a great clubhouse guy, and we've got him for two more months.

I've reached stage 5: acceptance.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:30 PM
trade for Corey Dickerson

REDREAD
07-30-2019, 09:32 PM
They're all in the Castellini box having cocktails counting money.

Yep, and Dick Williams is bragging about how he's demanding a top 20 prospect for Roark.
He clipped that comment that writer made about the price for Roark is untouchable and adding that clipping to his scrapbook, which will be in the Reds HOF one day :lol:

50YrRedsFan
07-30-2019, 09:32 PM
I am hoping the Robert Stephenson experiment is over after this year. He's had more than ample time to figure things out, and still hasn't done it.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 09:33 PM
Hi, Iím Ironman92. Iím a big Reds fan but I canít name 5 top prospects of any of the other 29 teams. Probably canít name 1 for a lot of them.

There, I said it.

RedTeamGo!
07-30-2019, 09:33 PM
What a quality post smh

I mean, considering half of the Reds FO is related to ownership, they probably are sitting back without a care in the world. Dick Williams for example doesnít have to worry about getting fired.

REDREAD
07-30-2019, 09:35 PM
I am hoping the Robert Stephenson experiment is over after this year. He's had more than ample time to figure things out, and still hasn't done it.

The Reds are so thin in the bullpen, I'm ok with keeping Stephenson there until he's a free agent. Arbitration isn't going to make him expensive (unless he drastically improves).. He's not great, but the Reds definitely have worse relievers.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 09:36 PM
Will one of you that follows this stuff let me know what ranking of prospect most of everyone for the Reds would be happy with in trading Roark?

Roark for a top 100 guy? Someone help me

50YrRedsFan
07-30-2019, 09:38 PM
The Reds are so thin in the bullpen, I'm ok with keeping Stephenson there until he's a free agent. Arbitration isn't going to make him expensive (unless he drastically improves).. He's not great, but the Reds definitely have worse relievers.

Hard to believe the Reds signed Stephenson in 2011. Been playing in the organization for 8 years.

REDREAD
07-30-2019, 09:39 PM
Horrible at bat by Dietrich, the league has him figured out.. Too bad Bell hasn't figured that out and keeps giving him playing time, even though Deitrich has clearly turned back into a pumpkin

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Will one of you that follows this stuff let me know what ranking of prospect most of everyone for the Reds would be happy with in trading Roark?

Roark for a top 100 guy? Someone help me

I'd be happy with a AA pitcher with 2 pitches and decent control that projects as a middle reliever (not a closer).
That's more than we gave up to get him, Rainey stunk.
And that's something the team could use.

50YrRedsFan
07-30-2019, 09:40 PM
You had to figure after last night offensive explosion, the Reds would be hard pressed to score tonight.

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 09:41 PM
Votto has had it with the Pirates

JCM11
07-30-2019, 09:42 PM
Pirates are the scumiest team in the world.

Tom Servo
07-30-2019, 09:43 PM
Horrible at bat by Dietrich, the league has him figured out.. Too bad Bell hasn't figured that out and keeps giving him playing time, even though Deitrich has clearly turned back into a pumpkin
Dietrich hasn't started a game since July 17th.

RedForLife
07-30-2019, 09:44 PM
I really hate the Pirates. More now than I did yesterday.

KronoRed
07-30-2019, 09:44 PM
RIOT..RIOT

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Never understand how one team can throw at a player's head, the other team yells "stop that crap" and the umpire is like "hey now, both sides are wrong here, you're both warned"

WestTNRed
07-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Votto has had it with the Pirates

The team really needs to stand up for itself or this will keep going. I was hoping a Pirate would wear one in the ribs yesterday for what happened the last time we played them but we didn't.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 09:46 PM
Dietrich hasn't started a game since July 17th.

With his slump, Scooter coming back, and that relatively inconsequential AB, I'd say Bell has given him the appropriate amount of playing time.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:47 PM
With his slump, Scooter coming back, and that relatively inconsequential AB, I'd say Bell has given him the appropriate amount of playing time.

I do question why scooter getting so much playing time though cuz he's been just as bad

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 09:48 PM
I do question why scooter getting so much playing time though cuz he's been just as bad

But he is on the rise after being out.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:48 PM
I do question why scooter getting so much playing time though cuz he's been just as bad

https://media.giphy.com/media/12Eo7WogCAoj84/giphy.gif

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 09:49 PM
I really hate the Pirates. More now than I did yesterday.

But not as much as you will tomorrow.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:49 PM
But he is on the rise after being out.
Huh scooter is on the rise from what

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 09:51 PM
Huh scooter is on the rise from what

From being out and trying to get his stroke back. And he could help his trade worth.

Alabama
07-30-2019, 09:52 PM
The team really needs to stand up for itself or this will keep going. I was hoping a Pirate would wear one in the ribs yesterday for what happened the last time we played them but we didn't.

I said it the last time Puig went after them. Nobody else wanted any. They weak

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 09:52 PM
Good throw by Puig! I really enjoy watching him play defense.

Rolando
07-30-2019, 09:52 PM
From being out and trying to get his stroke back. And he could help his trade worth.
I definitely would love to see him get traded

REDREAD
07-30-2019, 09:52 PM
I think David Hernandez comes off the DL today (or soon), so there's hope..:lol:

KronoRed
07-30-2019, 09:52 PM
Huh scooter is on the rise from what

Squat to squat and a half.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 09:53 PM
I definitely would love to see him get traded

ME too. He's too expensive for a small market team at 2nd base.

Wonderful Monds
07-30-2019, 09:54 PM
Did I miss something, was there more tempers flaring up? TV is on in this Skyline with no sound and closed captioning making it sound like theyíre pissed again.

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 09:55 PM
Did I miss something, was there more tempers flaring up? TV is on in this Skyline with no sound and closed captioning making it sound like they’re pissed again.

Yes the Pirates pitcher was chirping at the end of last inning and then Votto was basically yelling at the Pirates dugout. Then both benches were warned.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 09:55 PM
Two four run innings to win 10-9.

JCM11
07-30-2019, 09:56 PM
Have I mentioned I like Siani? That was a stupid ridiculous catch.

NebraskaRed
07-30-2019, 09:57 PM
what good is Farmer's versatility if he's not that good at any of them?

RedForLife
07-30-2019, 09:58 PM
Scooter Gennett Last seven days: AB 20 R 3 H 7 RBI 3 Avg .350 Not spectacular but, not too bad either.

Alabama
07-30-2019, 09:59 PM
what good is Farmer's versatility if he's not that good at any of them?

Hint, just means a non major league talent can “play” more positions. He won’t be around long

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 10:02 PM
Votto with a single. No RBI.

#notelite

BigPoppa
07-30-2019, 10:03 PM
You're 6 runs down - swing the bat!

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 10:04 PM
Suarez walks. Bases loaded for Puig

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 10:04 PM
You're 6 runs down - swing the bat!

Maybe that's not the best strategy! Need baserunners!

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 10:04 PM
Puig time...get ready folks

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 10:04 PM
If this is Puig's last AB as a Red what a better way to go out then a Grand Slam

RedForLife
07-30-2019, 10:05 PM
Good AB buy Geno. Loaded up for Puig to snap his slump!

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 10:05 PM
You're 6 runs down - swing the bat!

Suarez fails to do so. Takes a walk.

#selfish

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 10:05 PM
Eject Puig, that was a strike!

JCM11
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
This team is a dumpster fire.

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
Bell about to get kicked out again. He is gone

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
Pirates announcer says Puig should be tossed for dropping his helmet

Coopdaddy67
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
Good job by Bell taking the heat.

Can't lose him in this situation.

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
This team argues more ball and strike calls then any team by far.

adkindo
07-30-2019, 10:06 PM
clown show

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 10:07 PM
What point was Bell arguing, or was he trying to save Puig?

Reds Fanatic
07-30-2019, 10:07 PM
Puig FC. 8-3 Pirates

Coopdaddy67
07-30-2019, 10:07 PM
What point was Bell arguing, or was he trying to save Puig?

100% saving Puig.

JCM11
07-30-2019, 10:08 PM
What point was Bell arguing, or was he trying to save Puig?

He was saving Puig from an ejection.

Big Klu
07-30-2019, 10:09 PM
Pirates announcer says Puig should be tossed for dropping his helmet

Pirates announcers should worry about their own house.

mhs95_06
07-30-2019, 10:09 PM
Puig FC. 8-3 Pirates

If Puig would have just done that and got the run in in the 1st inning, this game may have been completely different.

Ironman92
07-30-2019, 10:09 PM
WLW not playing on MLB app now so gotta listen to Pirates crap

Rolando
07-30-2019, 10:09 PM
Pirates announcer says Puig should be tossed for dropping his helmet

well the Pirates announcers or a big joke anyway

Red Raindog
07-30-2019, 10:10 PM
Trade Rumors is saying the Reds are getting Bauer in a three team trade