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Kingspoint
08-06-2019, 03:30 PM
It's a 3-Ring Circus in Oakland right now, and that's worthy of it's own thread. Rarely does a day go by when something unusual is happening there. With "Hard Knocks" involved, there should be plenty to talk about.

Today's news of the weird:

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

A source with knowledge of the situation tells NBC's Chris Simms that Antonio Brown is dealing with frostbitten feet after "entering a cryotherapy machine without the proper footwear."
Well that's a new one. Brown had previously been described as dealing with "blisters." Speaking Tuesday, coach Jon Gruden would only say the team was "gathering information." It's a ridiculous injury but hardly a laughing matter. Brown's status for the remainder of camp should be considered up in the air.

SOURCE: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/06/simms-antonio-browns-got-frostbitten-feet-in-a-cryotherapy-machine/)

Kingspoint
08-08-2019, 03:16 PM
From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Raiders RG Gabe Jackson was carted from Thursday's joint practice against the Rams with a leg injury.

Speaking afterward, coach Jon Gruden admitted "concern." Jackson couldn't put any pressure on one of his legs before he was loaded onto the cart. Denver Kirkland and Jordan Devey rotated in his absence. Jackson is one of the annual linchpins of the Raiders' revamped line. Although he's not a star, he would be a major loss.

SOURCE: Scott Bair on Twitter

WrongVerb
08-09-2019, 04:28 PM
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

And now this: Raiders’ WR Antonio Brown has told team officials that, unless he gets to wear his old helmet, he will not play football again, per league sources.

And more....
8:24pm · 9 Aug 2019

Kingspoint
08-09-2019, 07:34 PM
Rotoworld's comments:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Antonio Brown has told the Raiders he will "not play football again" if the league does not allow him to wear his preferred helmet.

Brown has reportedly played hooky from the team since late last week. It was believed he had left to seek a second opinion on his injured feet (he's dealing with severe frostbite from a cryotherapy mishap in France), but apparently the real reason for his absence is that Brown is unhappy over the league's new helmet requirements, a sticking point that has led to a "disconnect" between AB and his bewildered teammates. According to Schefter, Brown feels other helmets impede his vision and has flatly rejected any of the alternatives the Raiders have offered him. The seven-time Pro Bowler filed a grievance over the league's new helmet policy—which was heard during a two-hour phone call on Friday—with a resolution likely coming next week. Brown is a ticking time bomb right now.

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Kingspoint
08-09-2019, 07:43 PM
More...

According to Sports Illustrated's Michael Silver, Antonio Brown's "vocal" frustration over the league's new helmet rules has "contributed to a disconnect" with the Raiders.

Silver's thread is worth reading in its entirety. Brown, who flamed out of Pittsburgh in spectacular fashion last season, has reportedly been a similar headache since arriving in Oakland, lashing out over the league's new helmet requirements. Of the 32 players required to change helmets this year including Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, only Brown has refused to comply, going as far as to repaint his old helmet in hopes that the Raiders wouldn't notice (spoiler: it didn't work). One member of the Raiders organization called Brown's continued resistance "honestly the most insane thing I've ever heard" while another noted that AB "hasn't been here for awhile, and no one knows where he's at." Silver adds that Brown has also ruffled feathers by barely paying attention in team meetings, often showing up late while spending most of the time glued to his phone. The Raiders may be feeling buyer's remorse after seeing some of Brown's recent antics.

SOURCE: Michael Silver on Twitter

KoryMac5
08-09-2019, 07:47 PM
If I am the Raiders I would try and void his contract due to the cryochamber situation...all good receivers eventually take a ride down crazy town.

UKFlounder
08-09-2019, 08:49 PM
And wasn’t the helmet ruling part f an agreement with the Player’s Association? Shouldn’t the Union be enforcing it too?



If I am the Raiders I would try and void his contract due to the cryochamber situation...all good receivers eventually take a ride down crazy town.

RiverRat13
08-09-2019, 09:32 PM
Why couldn't he have gone nuts about five years ago?

KronoRed
08-09-2019, 10:06 PM
The NFL's helmet rules are sort of bizarre.

Chip R
08-10-2019, 10:22 AM
And wasn’t the helmet ruling part f an agreement with the Player’s Association? Shouldn’t the Union be enforcing it too?

The union is not in the enforcement business. That is the league office. I'm sure the union can ask him to wear the new helmet but if he doesn't what are they going to do? I loved the part about painting his old helmet though.

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The NFL's helmet rules are sort of bizarre.

Yes. God forbid that after years of criticism about not caring about player safety they actually make players wear safer helmets. Those monsters.

Kingspoint
08-10-2019, 01:21 PM
The union is not in the enforcement business. That is the league office. I'm sure the union can ask him to wear the new helmet but if he doesn't what are they going to do? I loved the part about painting his old helmet though.

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Yes. God forbid that after years of criticism about not caring about player safety they actually make players wear safer helmets. Those monsters.
There is no such thing as a safer helmet. Once again, that's the NFL convincing those who haven't looked into the facts that there is no helmet that prevents the damage caused from the brain wacking itself against the skull repeatedly from sudden stops, which is what the NFL has been trying to hide now for 30 years, and what is causing all of the damage to people who play football and soccer and boxing.

A helmet contributes to damage to the brain though as it increases the intensity of the hit by the player delivering the blow with the helmet. The only thing a helmet prevents is cracking of the skull and swelling on the exterior of the skull.

Brown should be able to wear the helmet he wants to wear in this case.

The NFL doesn't care about his safety.

RedTeamGo!
08-10-2019, 01:27 PM
There is no such thing as a safer helmet. Once again, that's the NFL convincing those who haven't looked into the facts that there is no helmet that prevents the damage caused from the brain wacking itself against the skull repeatedly from sudden stops, which is what the NFL has been trying to hide now for 30 years, and what is causing all of the damage to people who play football and soccer and boxing.

A helmet contributes to damage to the brain though as it increases the intensity of the hit by the player delivering the blow with the helmet. The only thing a helmet prevents is cracking of the skull and swelling on the exterior of the skull.

Brown should be able to wear the helmet he wants to wear in this case.

The NFL doesn't care about his safety.

Can you please provide a source on your statement that there is no such thing as a safer helmet?

I think you should show your work with that kind of absolute statement.

KronoRed
08-10-2019, 03:07 PM
Yes. God forbid that after years of criticism about not caring about player safety they actually make players wear safer helmets. Those monsters.
I just find it hard to believe the NFL suddenly cares, my guess is there is a financial benefit to the league forcing everyone to a new style.

Bob Sheed
08-10-2019, 04:19 PM
AB hasn't been the same since Burfict lit him up.

And Burfict hasn't been the same since JuJu lit him up the following season.

Now both over-concussed casualties from that bitter rivalry are together again, mere shells of their former selves.

RedTeamGo!
08-10-2019, 05:03 PM
AB hasn't been the same since Burfict lit him up.

And Burfict hasn't been the same since JuJu lit him up the following season.

Now both over-concussed casualties from that bitter rivalry are together again, mere shells of their former selves.

AB had 100 receptions, 1300 yards, and 15 TDs last season.

Kingspoint
08-10-2019, 09:25 PM
AB hasn't been the same since Burfict lit him up.

And Burfict hasn't been the same since JuJu lit him up the following season.

Now both over-concussed casualties from that bitter rivalry are together again, mere shells of their former selves.

AB said all the new helmets compromise his vision, so it's about him performing at the quality he wants to rather than worrying about his safety.

Kingspoint
08-10-2019, 09:41 PM
About 10 minutes ago, my neighbor, a Steelers fan, shouted over the fence that he thinks that Burfict hit made him crazy.

WVRed
08-11-2019, 08:49 AM
AB had 100 receptions, 1300 yards, and 15 TDs last season.

It’s not all about performance, it’s about his mental health.

I don’t know how many Steelers fans you know (I live in Steeler country), but the majority of the fans have echoed what Bob said. Burfict knocked a screw loose. He wasn’t the same player after that hit and I think there are some lingering effects from a hit like that (likewise with Jujus block on Burfict).

It could also be not knowing how to handle fame. I believe that is a real possibility as well.

RedTeamGo!
08-11-2019, 08:53 AM
I misunderstood Bob, then. I thought he meant he hasn’t been the same player.

Slyder
08-12-2019, 02:54 PM
AB said all the new helmets compromise his vision, so it's about him performing at the quality he wants to rather than worrying about his safety.

The new helmets prevent the same number of concussions the old ones do... none. There is no way to prevent concussions in football unless you turn it into flag football. The thing that changes with the helmets is likelihood of skull fractures.

Brown has also said the ban on his helmet is arbitrary because it was never tested.

Chip R
08-12-2019, 04:03 PM
I just find it hard to believe the NFL suddenly cares, my guess is there is a financial benefit to the league forcing everyone to a new style.

Sure. It shows good faith that they are at least paying lip service to the problem. Since they are fighting numerous concussion lawsuits, mandating these helmets looks like they care and it may help them in any settlements or awards or verdicts.

Kingspoint
08-12-2019, 04:20 PM
Sure. It shows good faith that they are at least paying lip service to the problem. Since they are fighting numerous concussion lawsuits, mandating these helmets looks like they care and it may help them in any settlements or awards or verdicts.

That's it.

Kingspoint
08-12-2019, 04:23 PM
If they want to improve player safety regarding helmets, turn the outside of them into a spongy material and the interior hard to protect the skull.

WrongVerb
08-12-2019, 04:40 PM
If they want to improve player safety regarding helmets, turn the outside of them into a spongy material and the interior hard to protect the skull.

https://www.krem.com/article/news/health/football-helmets-with-outside-padding-get-tryout-at-high-schools/293-568099418

https://media.krem.com/assets/KREM/images/568099097/568099097_750x422.jpg

Kingspoint
08-12-2019, 05:00 PM
https://www.krem.com/article/news/health/football-helmets-with-outside-padding-get-tryout-at-high-schools/293-568099418

https://media.krem.com/assets/KREM/images/568099097/568099097_750x422.jpg

There you go.

Bob Sheed
08-12-2019, 05:20 PM
AB had 100 receptions, 1300 yards, and 15 TDs last season.

I meant mentally, sorry I should have clarified.

If Burfict doesn't ring his bell like that, the erratic behavior that ended his time in Pittsburgh probably doesn't happen.

As for on the field ability, we shall see...

Bob Sheed
08-12-2019, 05:26 PM
As for concussions, I think the best thing they could do is remove the helmets and pads altogether.

Like Rugby. Players will find out very quickly and adjust... if you throw yourself at another player, yeah, that's gonna hurt. Lead with the crown of your head? Dead.

KoryMac5
08-18-2019, 08:36 PM
Mayock spoke about the situation today and it seems the Raiders are running out of patience with AB...



You all know that AB is not here today. So here’s the bottom line. He’s upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that. We appreciate that, OK? But at this point, we’ve pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief. So, from our perspective, it’s time for him to be all in or all out. OK? So we’re hoping he’s back soon. We’ve got 89 guys busting their tails. We are really excited about where this franchise is going. And we hope AB’s going to be a big part of it starting Week 1 against Denver.

Slyder
08-19-2019, 09:48 AM
Mayock spoke about the situation today and it seems the Raiders are running out of patience with AB...

I heard one theory that I hope is what's going on. The Raiders are on Hard Knocks this year and AB's antics serve a couple things.

A) Ratings as people tune in to try and see what he's going to do next.
B) Allows him to "sit" out without being blatent, lets the Raiders look at the rest of the core and see who 2-5 are going to be.
C) Saves pointless contact wear and tear on his 31 year old legs.
C) He's been working with DC just no pads/helmet time.

Kingspoint
08-30-2019, 07:35 PM
When the Raiders make a good move (or a great one, in this case) it needs to be praised.

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Raiders signed C Rodney Hudson to a three-year, $33.75 million contract extension.

Per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, the deal includes $24.4 million in guaranteed money. Hudson, who was headed for the open market after this year, is now the league's highest-paid center, topping the previous high-water mark set by Buffalo's Mitch Morse earlier this offseason. A two-time Pro Bowler, Hudson earned PFF's top pass-blocking grade among qualified centers last season.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

North
09-05-2019, 02:10 PM
Never a dull moment at Raider Nation...


Raiders plan to suspend Antonio Brown after WR's exchange with GM Mike Mayock, per report
by Lorenzo Reyes USA Today Sept 5 2019


"Another day in Oakland, another dustup with the Raiders and Antonio Brown.

Just one day after the receiver publicly blasted his team by posting a disciplinary letter he received for skipping team activities on Instagram, an ESPN report indicates that the team plans to suspend Brown following his exchange Wednesday with general manager Mike Mayock.

According to the Athletic, Brown was held back by a few teammates during Wednesday's confrontation. NFL Network reported that Brown told Mayock he would hit him in the face and then punted a ball, telling the general manager to fine him for doing so.

“WHEN YOUR OWN TEAM WANT TO HATE BUT THERE’S NO STOPPING ME NOW DEVIL IS A LIE. EVERYONE GOT TO PAY THIS YEAR SO WE CLEAR,” Brown wrote Wednesday morning in a story posted to his Instagram account."...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/raiders/2019/09/05/antonio-brown-suspended-oakland-raiders-mike-mayock/2221474001/

WVRed
09-05-2019, 03:06 PM
One of the players holding Brown back was...

Wait for it....

Vontaze Burfict.

North
09-05-2019, 03:15 PM
One of the players holding Brown back was...

Wait for it....

Vontaze Burfict.

'Taz shoulda wrung his neck. :D

JaxRed
09-05-2019, 03:36 PM
NFL guys seem to think they could cut him now, and owe him nothing.... including getting his roster bonus back. I'd cut my losses and do it.

Reds Fanatic
09-05-2019, 03:41 PM
One of the players holding Brown back was...

Wait for it....

Vontaze Burfict.

Wow when Burfict is the voice of reason on your team you have problems. Too bad Hard Knocks is over we need another week.

Kingspoint
09-05-2019, 05:18 PM
Useless pos.

KronoRed
09-05-2019, 06:01 PM
Wish the Raiders had been evicted from Oakland and were playing as nomads this year, it would fit them perfectly.

Bob Sheed
09-05-2019, 08:54 PM
Brown = too many concussions

Kingspoint
09-06-2019, 02:38 AM
Brown = too many concussions

Sorry.

Nobody gets to blame acting like a spoiled 2-year old and an evil 2-year old at that on medical conditions. That's like blaming a bad acid trip on the acid when it's the bad character and fears of the person that was brought out by the acid. A more balanced person doesn't have the bad acid trip on the same acid. Brown's behavior isn't a behavior that is caused by a medical condition.

KoryMac5
09-06-2019, 07:10 AM
Supposedly Brown threatened to punch Mayock in the face...punted a football and said "fine me for that"...I am sad Hard Knocks packed up for the season.

If he is suspended it will happen today or tomorrow...the writing will be on the wall to void his contract. Then he can go to Baltimore...

phatknuckle
09-06-2019, 07:12 AM
Supposedly Brown threatened to punch Mayock in the face...punted a football and said "fine me for that"...I am sad Hard Knocks packed up for the season.

If he is suspended it will happen today or tomorrow...the writing will be on the wall to void his contract. Then he can go to Baltimore...

Why Baltimore? Not sure anyone would offer him much of a contract (at least guaranteed money) after this circus act.

phatknuckle
09-06-2019, 07:22 AM
Sorry.

Nobody gets to blame acting like a spoiled 2-year old and an evil 2-year old at that on medical conditions. That's like blaming a bad acid trip on the acid when it's the bad character and fears of the person that was brought out by the acid. A more balanced person doesn't have the bad acid trip on the same acid. Brown's behavior isn't a behavior that is caused by a medical condition.

If you never took the acid you would not have had a bad acid trip, so yes, the bad trip is a direct result of taking the acid.

Traumatic brain injuries and CTE can cause personality shifts. It is fairly common and well documented. Of course there have been an underlying personality disorder before Brown started playing football, but even so he has clearly spiraled since his early days in Pittsburgh.

KoryMac5
09-06-2019, 08:31 AM
Why Baltimore? Not sure anyone would offer him much of a contract (at least guaranteed money) after this circus act.

Teams will line up to sign him talent always trumps crazy....look at how many teams TO was with before getting the boot from the league.

However he probably will not get 30 mil guaranteed. Baltimore was speculated as he is following them on Instagram now.

Chip R
09-06-2019, 09:30 AM
Supposedly Brown threatened to punch Mayock in the face...punted a football and said "fine me for that"...I am sad Hard Knocks packed up for the season.

If he is suspended it will happen today or tomorrow...the writing will be on the wall to void his contract. Then he can go to Baltimore...

It almost seems like the Raiders were wanting this to happen so they could get out of the deal. Threatening to punch the GM in the face? I'm sure there have been many players who have threatened to punch a team official and more than likely a coach. But how many were suspended for it? From what I heard if he's not on the roster for the first game, his contract is not guaranteed. No question he's been a PITA for the last couple of years but he's also arguably the best receiver in the game. If he did actually punch him I would understand the suspension. But there seems to have been several incidents leading up to this and I'm not there so it was probably justified. I wonder if New England would take a flyer on him. They dealt with Randy Moss although I don't think Moss was ever as big of a PITA as Brown.

Bob Sheed
09-06-2019, 09:36 AM
Sorry.

Nobody gets to blame acting like a spoiled 2-year old and an evil 2-year old at that on medical conditions. That's like blaming a bad acid trip on the acid when it's the bad character and fears of the person that was brought out by the acid. A more balanced person doesn't have the bad acid trip on the same acid. Brown's behavior isn't a behavior that is caused by a medical condition.

Reminds me of Chris Henry.

As for Brown, there is no denying the personality change pre and post Burfict hit.

phatknuckle
09-06-2019, 10:06 AM
Teams will line up to sign him talent always trumps crazy....look at how many teams TO was with before getting the boot from the league.

However he probably will not get 30 mil guaranteed. Baltimore was speculated as he is following them on Instagram now.

I can't see anyone giving him guaranteed money or a big signing bonus at this point, however I could see him wanting to go to Baltimore in order to 'stick it' to the Steelers.

But there is crazy and then there is 'Mr. Big Chest' crazy. He might be at a whole other level.

KoryMac5
09-06-2019, 10:46 AM
From what I read his contract partially guarantees if he is on the opening day roster so today and tomorrow will say a lot about the direction both sides are going...

KoryMac5
09-06-2019, 03:27 PM
and just like that AB is back...heartfelt apologies get em every time. Talent always trumps crazy.

WVRed
09-06-2019, 03:31 PM
Teams will line up to sign him talent always trumps crazy....look at how many teams TO was with before getting the boot from the league.

However he probably will not get 30 mil guaranteed. Baltimore was speculated as he is following them on Instagram now.

His cousin just got drafted by the Ravens, so there’s that.

Sad reality is, I could have seen the Bengals as a possibility with AJ Green being out and Mike Brown giving second chances. Plus the chance to put it to the Steelers twice a year.

UKFlounder
09-06-2019, 03:51 PM
Mayock should resign and preserve any sanity or dignity he has left. Let Gruden and Brown/Rosenhaus run the team



and just like that AB is back...heartfelt apologies get em every time. Talent always trumps crazy.

KronoRed
09-06-2019, 04:22 PM
Mayock should resign and preserve any sanity or dignity he has left. Let Gruden and Brown/Rosenhaus run the team

That will come next, some other lackey will be named GM and do what Gruden says.

JaxRed
09-06-2019, 06:49 PM
I think so too. Gruden and/or Davis totally chopped him off at the knees.

And I FULLY expect more AB issues down the line.

The Villian
09-07-2019, 10:23 AM
Now brown says no way will he ever play for the raiders after he fined over 215 thousand dollars. It’s his own fault, damn cry baby.

Sea Ray
09-07-2019, 11:36 AM
I applaud Mike Mayock in all of this, cracker and all. AB in Oakland ain't lookin' too good. The thing here is, how many NFL teams are going to be willing to put up with him? I'm thinking that list has to be dwindling and dwindling fast

WVRed
09-07-2019, 12:17 PM
I applaud Mike Mayock in all of this, cracker and all. AB in Oakland ain't lookin' too good. The thing here is, how many NFL teams are going to be willing to put up with him? I'm thinking that list has to be dwindling and dwindling fast

If Baltimore signs him, there should be an investigation for tampering.

BUTLER REDSFAN
09-07-2019, 12:18 PM
Raiders released him

North
09-07-2019, 12:37 PM
If Baltimore signs him, there should be an investigation for tampering.

I"m sure they felt more trouble would come from him. If he was on the roster tomorrow, he would have been guaranteed a year's salary.

North
09-07-2019, 12:40 PM
If Baltimore signs him, there should be an investigation for tampering.

I"m sure they felt more trouble would come from him. If he was on the roster tomorrow, he would have been guaranteed a year's salary.

EDIT:. Oops...I meant to quote Butler Redsfan...

InsaneinthBrame
09-07-2019, 01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1170365119215415299

Some of the responses to the Raiders tween about the release is hilarious.

JaxRed
09-07-2019, 02:39 PM
And I FULLY expect more AB issues down the line.

Darn that was fast.


I expect him to be signed by Week 2. But if I was an NFL Team none of it would be guaranteed.

Rdirtypirates
09-07-2019, 04:05 PM
Reminds me of Chris Henry.

As for Brown, there is no denying the personality change pre and post Burfict hit.

This very well may be the case, but he has always been crazy. The crazy really shined through after he signed his first big contract extension. People stop caring once they get paid. Brown has always been a first class ahole.

JaxRed
09-07-2019, 04:18 PM
Interesting tidbit... When Raiders cut Keelan Doss they offered him a practice squad job. Instead he took a practice squad job with Jaguars. With AB released today, Raiders tried to put him back on the 53. The Jaguars said they could not put him on the 53 but gave him a full rookie salary. He stayed with Jags. I don't know that I've ever heard of someone turning down the 53 man gig to stay on practice squad.

RiverRat13
09-07-2019, 04:32 PM
Since the Bengals are going to be bad and will take 2 L’s to the Ravens either way, I’m rooting for AB to Baltimore. The two Steelers-Ravens games would be epic.

Redsfaithful
09-07-2019, 05:40 PM
I applaud Mike Mayock in all of this, cracker and all. AB in Oakland ain't lookin' too good. The thing here is, how many NFL teams are going to be willing to put up with him? I'm thinking that list has to be dwindling and dwindling fast

lol this aged well

The Raiders got played here. What a stupid organization.

Wonderful Monds
09-07-2019, 05:48 PM
Honestly don’t think I’m even gonna bother watching the NFL this season, you might as well give the Patriots the Super Bowl right now.

Roy Tucker
09-07-2019, 10:04 PM
When I heard he got cut, the Patriots were the first team I thought of.

Sea Ray
09-08-2019, 11:40 AM
lol this aged well

The Raiders got played here. What a stupid organization.

The Raiders got screwed and the Steelers come out of it laughing their asses off. As for NE, I am amazed that they gave him that much guaranteed money. That really does surprise me. I hope it blows up on them

KoryMac5
09-08-2019, 12:02 PM
The Raiders got screwed and the Steelers come out of it laughing their asses off. As for NE, I am amazed that they gave him that much guaranteed money. That really does surprise me. I hope it blows up on them

The only way he agreed to go to Oakland was with that much guaranteed...remember he was all but on his way to Buffalo when he told their front office he would not report.

phatknuckle
09-08-2019, 12:59 PM
The Raiders got screwed and the Steelers come out of it laughing their asses off. As for NE, I am amazed that they gave him that much guaranteed money. That really does surprise me. I hope it blows up on them

I am shocked that he got that much guaranteed. The only way I'd have given him that much is if I KNEW the AB of the past few months was an act. Of course that would point to some sort of complicity, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.

AB wanted to go to the Patriots when he forced his exit from the Steelers. I know the Patriots tried to trade for him. Patriots held onto 11 million cap space and weren't that aggressive filling their wide receiver hole even when Gordon's status was unclear. It's all just too coincidental for me.

Redsfaithful
09-08-2019, 01:18 PM
The only way I'd have given him that much is if I KNEW the AB of the past few months was an act.

Hard to tell on the last few months, but the last couple of weeks has already been confirmed that he was acting with the intention of gaining a release.

MWM
09-08-2019, 04:49 PM
wrong thread

JaxRed
09-08-2019, 10:50 PM
Interesting tidbit... When Raiders cut Keelan Doss they offered him a practice squad job. Instead he took a practice squad job with Jaguars. With AB released today, Raiders tried to put him back on the 53. The Jaguars said they could not put him on the 53 but gave him a full rookie salary. He stayed with Jags. I don't know that I've ever heard of someone turning down the 53 man gig to stay on practice squad.

Follow up to the tidbit....Oakland upped their offer. Fully guaranteed rookie salary and $300K signing bonus..... he's now a Raider (again)

Sea Ray
09-08-2019, 11:28 PM
The only way he agreed to go to Oakland was with that much guaranteed...remember he was all but on his way to Buffalo when he told their front office he would not report.

I was talking about NE, not Oakland

Slyder
09-09-2019, 11:16 PM
So far I’m impressed.


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Kingspoint
09-15-2019, 04:54 PM
Raiders' breakdown in coverage (looks like the Bengals') lets the Chiefs climb back into the game, now 10-7 Oakland to begin the 2nd.

WrongVerb
09-15-2019, 06:22 PM
Raiders' breakdown in coverage (looks like the Bengals') lets the Chiefs climb back into the game, now 10-7 Oakland to begin the 2nd.

Mahomes at halftime: 313 yards, 4 TDs

Kingspoint
09-15-2019, 06:43 PM
An elite Quarterback comes along about once every three years. Mahomes looks to be one of them.

Boston Red
09-16-2019, 10:12 AM
The Raiders do not seem to be nearly as terrible as they were expected to be.

Assembly Hall
09-16-2019, 10:08 PM
The Raiders do not seem to be nearly as terrible as they were expected to be.

Glad to see this after the AB BS.

Kingspoint
09-16-2019, 10:18 PM
Lamonica to Belitnikof was great.

Assembly Hall
09-16-2019, 10:47 PM
Lamonica to Belitnikof was great.

No, Stabler to Biletnikoff was great...of course I hated the Steelers and Dolphins.

Kingspoint
09-17-2019, 01:37 AM
No, Stabler to Biletnikoff was great...of course I hated the Steelers and Dolphins.

The one-more-time-for-old-time's-sake toss on Sunday.

RedsBaron
09-17-2019, 11:08 AM
Daryle Lamonica to Fred Biletnikoff, Warren Wells and Raymond Chester was great. Ken Stabler to Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch and Dave Casper was greater.

Kingspoint
09-28-2019, 04:14 PM
One thing the Raiders have gotten right...

Over the last five years, they have stayed focused on putting and keeping together a pretty good Offensive Line.

Kingspoint
09-28-2019, 04:44 PM
From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Raiders RT Trent Brown (knee) is questionable for Week 4 against the Colts.

Brown played through his knee injury last week but was limited to 85 percent of snaps. He's on track to suit up after getting in a full practice Friday. With Jordan Devey (groin) questionable and Gabe Jackson (knee) still a few weeks from returning, the Raiders offensive line will be at less than full strength for Sunday's matchup with the Colts.

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According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, "there's a good chance" Melvin Gordon makes his season debut Sunday against the Dolphins.

Gordon only has two practices under his belt, but the Chargers are thin at running back after losing Justin Jackson to a calf injury earlier this week. While Gordon isn't ready to step into a workhorse role, the Chargers will likely sprinkle him in to "get his feet wet" in what equates to an exhibition game Sunday against the lowly Dolphins. Fantasy owners can still start Austin Ekeler with confidence in Week 4, though soon he'll be playing second fiddle to Gordon.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Kingspoint
09-28-2019, 04:49 PM
From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

T.Y. Hilton (quad) is doubtful for Sunday's matchup against the Raiders.

Hilton didn't shut the door on suiting up this weekend by stating "You'll find out Sunday" when asked about his game status. Still, his doubtful designation is a good sign that he'll sit this one out. The negative for the Colts' auxiliary WRs in this run-first offense is simply lack of opportunity. None of Deon Cain (56% snaps in Week 3), Parris Campbell (45%), Zach Pascal (44%) nor Chester Rogers (41%) have received anything close to a consistent role, as the offense has largely been run through a combination of Hilton and Marlon Mack. Look for Campbell and Cain to get the most additional targets if Hilton is ultimately sidelined.

SOURCE: Jimmy Durkin on Twitter.

Kingspoint
09-28-2019, 04:54 PM
From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Colts LB Darius Leonard (concussion) has been ruled out for the team's Week 4 matchup against the Raiders.

The absence of both Leonard and stud FS Malik Hooker (knee, out) is great news for Raiders TE Darren Waller. Only Evan Engram (30) and Zach Ertz (30) have more targets than Waller (29) among all TEs through three weeks. Waller is the overall PPR TE3 and has a real shot to work as a top-five option for the rest of the season with this type of usage, particularly when we're literally just one season removed from Carr enabling Jared Cook to finish as the PPR TE5.

SOURCE: Mike Chappell on Twitter.

North
10-04-2019, 01:14 PM
More AB garbage:

"Lawyers for the condo owner suing Antonio Brown for damages have asked that the free-agent NFL star be required to come back for another deposition, claiming he was "belligerent," "pugnacious" and "non-compliant" in last week's attempt.

In documents filed in the 11th Circuit Court on Wednesday, the attorneys asked that Brown be fined for his "tumultuous tirades, defiant rants, use of profane language and refusal to comport himself in a civilized and grown-up manner." They also asked that a special master be appointed to oversee the next deposition.

Brown is accused by the owner of The Mansions at Acqualina, a luxury complex in South Florida, of damaging the condominium. They are seeking more than $15,000 and say the actual property damage was much higher."...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27761570/lawyers-condo-owner-say-antonio-brown-was-non-compliant-last-week-deposition